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This is a great story. I’ve been certain that Apple has been accumulating Bitcoin for some time now (at least 5 years) after having discussions with one of their highest level executives. This is the first time I’ve seen any evidence of them beginning to show support for it. I guess that means they’re close to done filling their bags. I expect to see a LOT more support for Bitcoin from Apple in the future.
Well, if that's true, then there better be an integration for it in the App Store, so that I can stop buying iTunes gift cards ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) OMG Steve Jobs=Satoshi Nakamoto. Since Steve died in 2011 that would explain Satoshi disappearance too. Just joking haha.
Now you got me curious with this but unfortunately i dont have any device with macOS to check it out.
Doesn't check out. From reading Satoshi's posts here, he certainly doesn't sound like an asshole. Also Jobs was never a cryptographer, but a product designer. And he literally only had access to a Windows with AMD processor when designing the early versions of Bitcoin Core software.
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April 06, 2023, 01:16:28 PM |
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I don't know, but most Apple device users don't dig deep into the system to read hidden files, most of the use is for design or to exploit the device's features. The question must be presented to Apple. If they know, then this is a problem, and if they do not know, then the problem is greater. Wouldn't they face any legal problem, at least in the UK, in which the Bitcoin white paper seems to be outlawed.
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April 06, 2023, 01:28:01 PM |
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I also saw this one and I thought that no one made the thread yet but it's all good. It's probably just one or few engineer who happen to be Bitcoin enthusiast use Bitcoin Whitepaper as reference/example PDF file.
I agree that it's a work of someone who has passion for bitcoin that worked for them. But his coworkers probably didn't noticed it until someone did. It's also even likely that he's the one to open it up since no one has ever noticed it all over these years.
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April 06, 2023, 01:52:45 PM |
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Since 2018, macOS Mojave has harbored the enigmatic Bitcoin whitepaper, intriguingly tucked away in every copy. The burning query: why would Apple do this? Some surmise it's a mere handy file for testing, while others detect deeper motives.
Could it be an Apple salute to the burgeoning clout of cryptocurrencies and blockchain? By embedding the whitepaper, they might be declaring allegiance to these nascent technologies and a pledge to spearhead the industry's avant-garde.
Or, perhaps it's an insinuation of decentralized systems' potency. By nestling the whitepaper within their OS, Apple could be coaxing users to delve into crypto and blockchain realms, contemplating decentralized structures' merits over centralized counterparts.
Regardless, macOS's enshrinement of the Bitcoin whitepaper highlights the soaring impact of cryptocurrencies and blockchain in our era. As these technologies advance, one can't help but ponder their influence on finance and tech's future.
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April 06, 2023, 02:02:07 PM |
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The timing with which this news was revealed is pretty curious. It's not just few days that WP is inside Macs... guys, do you really think it was a choice of apple as a company and maybe not a choice of a single programmer within their company?
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April 06, 2023, 03:13:01 PM |
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haha that's pretty cool. I just opened it up and yes indeed it is there! Bitcoin White Paper tucked away in my computer!
Some fan of Bitcoin who works at Apple must have snuck it in there.
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April 06, 2023, 05:24:04 PM |
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This is a great story. I’ve been certain that Apple has been accumulating Bitcoin for some time now (at least 5 years) after having discussions with one of their highest level executives. This is the first time I’ve seen any evidence of them beginning to show support for it. I guess that means they’re close to done filling their bags. I expect to see a LOT more support for Bitcoin from Apple in the future.
Well, come on. This doesn't look like a support, but more like an easter secret from one of the developers or other employees than the fact that Apple added the bitcoin whitepaper purposefully. Otherwise, this story would have surfaced much earlier, and not a few years later. Although, on the other hand, it may be some kind of planned PR campaign from this company and an attempt to show their loyalty to bitcoin, but at the same time not much officially advertising. I don't think so, but the devil knows what they have in mind.
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April 06, 2023, 05:53:41 PM |
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Could mean three things, be my guest on telling which would be the most plausible theory out of all of them!
1. Steve Jobs or someone from the Apple Executive Board (or maybe even the whole executive/founding fathers of Apple) were Satoshi Nakamoto, and had created the project for the sole purpose of not only creating a payment channel/system that would traverse seas and continents, but to also beta test Apple Pay which is their strongest suit in creating the Apple Ecosystem
2. Could've been a good sign that they are in close connection with Bitcoin's creator, or that they are on the same side in the discussion between bitcoin and fiat or whatever the hell, which could also mean they've stocked up on bitcoins without us ever knowing.
3. Just a random and funny easter egg that a high-tier apple employee left on the MacOS systems to not only act as some sort of "where's waldo" on the code but to fuck with the bitcoin visionaries brain into thinking that Apple supports bitcoin, thus having them buy more apple devices, supporting apple projects and startups, and be Apple's unsung heroes.
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April 06, 2023, 06:47:55 PM |
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It's not just few days that WP is inside Macs... guys, do you really think it was a choice of apple as a company and maybe not a choice of a single programmer within their company?
As far as I can tell not everyone agrees on this either. I don't think we can find the answer anyway since one of them could simply answer ambiguously, or even lie if it fits their current narrative. Even if we did find the answer, things can change pretty quickly if the market demand to do so. Who knows, the company that hates crypto right now will change its tune after they prepare its best to reap profits from the market, and vice versa. Steve Jobs or someone from the Apple Executive Board (or maybe even the whole executive/founding fathers of Apple) were Satoshi Nakamoto, and had created the project for the sole purpose of not only creating a payment channel/system that would traverse seas and continents, but to also beta test Apple Pay which is their strongest suit in creating the Apple Ecosystem
This is too far-fetched IMO. At the very least, I can't imagine satoshi working at some corporate that produce so many overpriced products and being so privacy-conscious at the same time. But well who knows, unless we got internal info all of these theories might as well be true.
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April 06, 2023, 07:42:25 PM |
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Could mean three things, be my guest on telling which would be the most plausible theory out of all of them!
1. Steve Jobs or someone from the Apple Executive Board (or maybe even the whole executive/founding fathers of Apple) were Satoshi Nakamoto, and had created the project for the sole purpose of not only creating a payment channel/system that would traverse seas and continents, but to also beta test Apple Pay which is their strongest suit in creating the Apple Ecosystem
2. Could've been a good sign that they are in close connection with Bitcoin's creator, or that they are on the same side in the discussion between bitcoin and fiat or whatever the hell, which could also mean they've stocked up on bitcoins without us ever knowing.
3. Just a random and funny easter egg that a high-tier apple employee left on the MacOS systems to not only act as some sort of "where's waldo" on the code but to fuck with the bitcoin visionaries brain into thinking that Apple supports bitcoin, thus having them buy more apple devices, supporting apple projects and startups, and be Apple's unsung heroes.
I don’t think it’s number 1, Steve Jobs or his partners cannot be Satoshi Nakamoto, there is a clear distinction in their beliefs. I believe Satoshi is a liberal and apple founders are capitalists, also Craig Wright would sue them for impersonation if he hears of this lol. I also don’t think it’s number 3 because apple doesn’t need do all that to get more loyal customers. I think people buy apple products as luxury items. In my opinion, number 2 is the closest, there were rumors last year that apple bought 2.5 billion worth of bitcoin but there was never an official statement from the company.
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April 06, 2023, 07:59:44 PM |
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haha that's pretty cool. I just opened it up and yes indeed it is there! Bitcoin White Paper tucked away in my computer!
Some fan of Bitcoin who works at Apple must have snuck it in there.
I assume that indeed, some workers at Apple are allowed to sneak in some Easter eggs, as long as they do not interfere with the proper functionality of the OS. That is more expected that some big fish in the company including the Bitcoin WP for whatever reason. When I think of companies which would be open to Bitcoin and pro-adoption, Apple is one of the least that comes to mind because how fond of closed-source and simple functionalities they are. The average Apple user does not like to swim in code and like things to be super simple and intuitive. I would not be surprised if this Easter Egg ended up being removed in future iterations of the OS.
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April 06, 2023, 10:00:04 PM |
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This is a great story. I’ve been certain that Apple has been accumulating Bitcoin for some time now (at least 5 years) after having discussions with one of their highest level executives. This is the first time I’ve seen any evidence of them beginning to show support for it. I guess that means they’re close to done filling their bags. I expect to see a LOT more support for Bitcoin from Apple in the future.
I've they've been accumulating Bitcoin, then they should've disclosed it already in any of their quarterly/annual results papers. Let's not forget that Apple is a public company and is required by law to disclose their finances. A lot of reputable organizations are into Bitcoin more than we know but the problem is that they never make it public. If you remember some years ago, some of the celebrities that publicly tell the world they are holding Bitcoin never had the gut to make it public. Yes, of course, they ought to disclose their finances but only those they want the public to know.
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April 06, 2023, 10:14:37 PM |
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I expect Craig "Faketoshi" Wright to take a legal action and file a copyright infringement lawsuit against Apple now. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) This is what i thought while still reading the OP, like this guy (mentioned the name) will be very upset again and will take legal action after lossing multiple times. lmao. Well, yeah, this is very interesting story, would be glad to know if what's the bitcoin whitepaper doing there on that folder.
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April 06, 2023, 10:30:26 PM |
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This is a great story. I’ve been certain that Apple has been accumulating Bitcoin for some time now (at least 5 years) after having discussions with one of their highest level executives. This is the first time I’ve seen any evidence of them beginning to show support for it. I guess that means they’re close to done filling their bags. I expect to see a LOT more support for Bitcoin from Apple in the future.
I've they've been accumulating Bitcoin, then they should've disclosed it already in any of their quarterly/annual results papers. Let's not forget that Apple is a public company and is required by law to disclose their finances. Apple doesn't own any bitcoins; only CEO Tim Cook does, at least according to an interview he gave last year. As it is a personal bitcoin, you shouldn't expect Cook to make his holdings public. However, just as we have the Bible and the Quran in each of our hotels, the presence of the Bitcoin Whitepaper PDF on the Apple system is not news and has no significance. maybe it was just a good pdf sample for dev testing who knows.
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The discovery of a hidden white paper on MacOS in the middle of Bitcoin price movements is quite good in my opinion because being able to stay above $ 25K does not interfere with Bitcoin movement traffic which is predicted to continue to reach new support. Or we hope that behind the discovery of the white paper on MacOS can positively strengthen Bitcoin. I expect Craig "Faketoshi" Wright to take a legal action and file a copyright infringement lawsuit against Apple now. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Regarding Wright, I laughed to myself when I read your post with what I read on coindesk.com; “Of all the documents in the world, why was the Bitcoin white paper chosen? Is there a secret Bitcoin maxi working at Apple? The filename is “simpledoc.pdf” and it’s only 184 KB,” writes Baio on Waxy. “Maybe it was just a convenient, lightweight multipage PDF for testing purposes, never meant to be seen by end users.”
There’s also another angle to note. Craig Wright has been attempting to copyright the Bitcoin white paper and has been suing – unsuccessfully – places that host it. This may have been an internal act of defiance by a coder working at Apple, a company too big for Wright to sue.
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Doesn't check out. From reading Satoshi's posts here, he certainly doesn't sound like an asshole. Also Jobs was never a cryptographer, but a product designer. And he literally only had access to a Windows with AMD processor when designing the early versions of Bitcoin Core software.
Of course it doesn't check out, thats why i wrote that i am just joking so people wouldnt think that i was serious. If someone like Steve Jobs was behind Bitcoin, it would look very different and it would be way more centralized.
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I expect Craig "Faketoshi" Wright to take a legal action and file a copyright infringement lawsuit against Apple now. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yeah exactly, I was going to write the same thing. When will there be an article mentioning a noisy trial about it? That's a godsend for him! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) That didn't take long, did it? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) This guy is completely nuts! Self-Proclaimed Satoshi Claims Apple Violated Copyright by Putting Bitcoin White Paper on MacOSI had no idea that the whitepaper was hidden in Macos. If I understand correctly, it was an employee who did this a few years ago, and it was never corrected? I believe it was intentional not a mistake I'm not an Apple user personally, but I wonder if there is also this in IOS ? Who knows, maybe some tablets and phones also include the whitepaper
I think it's just the macOS for now.
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April 08, 2023, 12:07:11 AM |
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This is a great story. I’ve been certain that Apple has been accumulating Bitcoin for some time now (at least 5 years) after having discussions with one of their highest level executives. This is the first time I’ve seen any evidence of them beginning to show support for it. I guess that means they’re close to done filling their bags. I expect to see a LOT more support for Bitcoin from Apple in the future.
I've they've been accumulating Bitcoin, then they should've disclosed it already in any of their quarterly/annual results papers. Let's not forget that Apple is a public company and is required by law to disclose their finances. Apple doesn't own any bitcoins; only CEO Tim Cook does, at least according to an interview he gave last year. As it is a personal bitcoin, you shouldn't expect Cook to make his holdings public. However, just as we have the Bible and the Quran in each of our hotels, the presence of the Bitcoin Whitepaper PDF on the Apple system is not news and has no significance. maybe it was just a good pdf sample for dev testing who knows. It isn’t just the CEO. He isn’t the one I discussed Bitcoin with. A large number of people at Apple are Bitcoin supporters and I’m sure their entire top level executive team are all buying up as much as they can to front run their own company… At some point when it isn’t controversial or potentially illegal to do so, Apple will support it. Mark my words.
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April 08, 2023, 02:40:29 PM |
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I expect Craig "Faketoshi" Wright to take a legal action and file a copyright infringement lawsuit against Apple now. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yeah exactly, I was going to write the same thing. When will there be an article mentioning a noisy trial about it? That's a godsend for him! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) That didn't take long, did it? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) This guy is completely nuts! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fir79eEk.png&t=665&c=oNL4jx6FGc7Peg) I thought the Hodlonaut case would have kept him quiet over his claims of being Satoshi, however he can't take any step, he just admitted that apple broke the copyright law. Craig cannot stand apple in court for such a thing as being the owner of bitcoin whitepaper, they're many backed up proofs to why he'll fail again. Unless he is seeking to remain relevant on news outlets, he wouldn't think of filing a lawsuit against apple.
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April 11, 2023, 11:24:44 PM |
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I expect Craig "Faketoshi" Wright to take a legal action and file a copyright infringement lawsuit against Apple now. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yeah exactly, I was going to write the same thing. When will there be an article mentioning a noisy trial about it? That's a godsend for him! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) That didn't take long, did it? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) This guy is completely nuts! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fir79eEk.png&t=665&c=oNL4jx6FGc7Peg) I thought the Hodlonaut case would have kept him quiet over his claims of being Satoshi, however he can't take any step, he just admitted that apple broke the copyright law. Craig cannot stand apple in court for such a thing as being the owner of bitcoin whitepaper, they're many backed up proofs to why he'll fail again. Unless he is seeking to remain relevant on news outlets, he wouldn't think of filing a lawsuit against apple. Haha lmao, this guy is absolutely nuts. Let's say that he actually was/is Satoshi (which all of us with a brain of course know he is not), lets for a moment pretend he was..how would Apple face litigation over this, I just don't understand what his legal precedence would be? Either way, I think it's funny that he so quickly responded to this. I mean this guy couldn't be any more different on twitter than he was here on btalk, where he went to immense lengths to hide his identity.
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