History of Bitcointalk - Making a Documentary Piece - Need your help OGs

[craslovell]

Hey all,

Been a long time since I posted here.. I'm currently assisting with a documentary style educational video series about several facets of the crypto world. This is being professionally produced and accuracy is paramount. One episode is solely dedicated to this forum and the script is mostly done.

However, where things get blurry is the very early history of this forum. We can see Satoshi's posts, but were they actually made here? Or were those posts imported from elsewhere like SourceForge? The piece in question has to do with this forum's domain name only being registered in 2011. But again I might be lacking historical context.

I'm not here to stir pots, just really need some OGs help to get this episode done!

If anyone can shed some light on this for me I'd appreciate it. Thank you.

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[Maus0728]

We can see Satoshi's posts, but were they actually made here? Or were those posts imported from elsewhere like SourceForge?

As far as I know, Satoshi's posts were imported from SourceForge, which also includes the first four threads of some tests and some administrative notes. And since Satoshi was last seen active on December 13, 2010, it is clear that he never made a single post when bitcointalk.org was launched in July 2011.

Topic 3 was deleted years ago, and it is unknown what happened to it. Topics 1 and 2 were satoshi doing some tests, and topic 4 was some administrative notes left by satoshi.

See below for PDFs of the first topics:
topic 1
topic 2
topic 4

As an FYI, there are links to the above topics in the link you referenced.

Is this the first bitcointalk.org topic?
What happened with topic 1,2,3 and 4?

1, 2, and 4 exist in the staff forum. 3 was permanently deleted at some point (it must have contained Satoshi's real name and address).

[bittraffic]

^ Really? It's possible that Satoshi had reveal himself a long time ago?  That is something to add to OP's documentary.

Though Satoshi had been said to have not posted here, Bitcointalk had reached historical heights though. There was a document published recently that the government is looking into this forum. It wouldn't really be surprising to see there are users in the forum who has riches and some are really well-connected.

[hd49728]

^ Really? It's possible that Satoshi had reveal himself a long time ago?  That is something to add to OP's documentary.

I knew about First topics of forum but I did not know about that but the post above made me surprising. Sometimes Satoshi Nakamoto did made mistakes like noobs.

The Complete Satoshi with archive for email, forum posts, codes.

[nutildah]

However, where things get blurry is the very early history of this forum. We can see Satoshi's posts, but were they actually made here? Or were those posts imported from elsewhere like SourceForge? The piece in question has to do with this forum's domain name only being registered in 2011. But again I might be lacking historical context.

Originally this forum was part of bitcoin.org; you can see it on the Wayback Machine existing as such:

https://web.archive.org/web/20110519220748/http://forum.bitcoin.org/

It moved from forum.bitcoin.org to bitcointalk.org in 2011.

When satoshi says "Welcome to the new Bitcoin Forum!" in his first post (or 1st non-deleted post) he was referencing SourceForge as where a different forum initially existed for a short time beforehand.

Technically, this forum, whether on this domain or bitcoin.org, has always been called the Bitcoin Forum, as you can see in the top left of every page.

[_BlackStar]

First somehow I think this thread deserves to be on meta considering it's about the forum and it's history. I've reported it for moved, but let's see if the moderators agree with me.

Then than that, your idea might be very interesting to follow and hope your project is really as accurate as expected. Before to the bitcointalk.org forum, Satoshi often posted on the original bitcoin.org forum as you can find here. There are at least 255 Satoshi made there, you can found them from the following url which has been archived. @nutildah has also told you.

https://web.archive.org/web/20091215005450/http://www.bitcoin.org:80/smf/

[gmaxwell]

Gee. This should be a good thread for cataloging shills paid by Craig Wright to lie about Bitcoin's history and people who've been bamboozled by them.

For example: one of his lies is the claim that there was some different forum that this one copied from.  How fucking absurd.

The truth is that some people-- particular some developers-- were uncomfortable with Theymos' almost-anything-goes moderation resulting in a lot of discussion of illegal-sounding activities on Bitcoin.org that they didn't want to be associated with, so the domain name of the forum was changed.  It was the same forum all the way through, and you can see that the content was all the same through the name change by looking at the wayback machine.  A few moments googling will turn up this post I made back in 2019 about the history of the move: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203621.0

In more recent years, the well known fraudster Craig Wright ran into problems with the fact that Satoshi's writing contradicts his claims so he started paying people to say that Satoshi never posted here, implying that anything inconvenient said by Satoshi was fake.  Most people don't care about the history so it's cheap for people to trash it and replace it with distorted fiction.  Fuck that.

[nutildah]

Well there you have it, doesn't get a whole lot OG-er than that.

The truth is that some people-- particular some developers-- were uncomfortable with Theymos' almost-anything-goes moderation resulting in a lot of discussion of illegal-sounding activities on Bitcoin.org that they didn't want to be associated with, so the domain name of the forum was changed.  It was the same forum all the way through, and you can see that the content was all the same through the name change by looking at the wayback machine.  A few moments googling will turn up this post I made back in 2019 about the history of the move: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203621.0

Interesting, I hadn't seen that thread before.

Whatever peoples' opinions were at the time (2011), the way the shepherding (moderation policy) panned out seemed to be beneficial for the forum as its still here after all these years.

Arguably 1-2 of the top 10 posters of all time are trolls, another is a bot -- they probably wouldn't have made it this long under more stern moderating conditions. But its a small price to pay for the wealth of ideas that transpired here during the last 12 years.

In more recent years, the well known fraudster Craig Wright ran into problems with the fact that Satoshi's writing contradicts his claims so he started paying people to say that Satoshi never posted here, implying that anything inconvenient said by Satoshi was fake.

Its possible to use the Wayback Machine to verify that the satoshi posts count has been the same since he left in 2010.





You can also see a lot of his posts via the web archive as well -- none of them have been altered:

https://web.archive.org/web/20110528035755/http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3;sa=showPosts

I wouldn't be surprised if there was an archive of his every post on forum.bitcoin.org somewhere (other than here).

[SamReomo]

Hey all,

Been a long time since I posted here.. I'm currently assisting with a documentary style educational video series about several facets of the crypto world. This is being professionally produced and accuracy is paramount. One episode is solely dedicated to this forum and the script is mostly done.

However, where things get blurry is the very early history of this forum. We can see Satoshi's posts, but were they actually made here? Or were those posts imported from elsewhere like SourceForge? The piece in question has to do with this forum's domain name only being registered in 2011. But again I might be lacking historical context.

I'm not here to stir pots, just really need some OGs help to get this episode done!

If anyone can shed some light on this for me I'd appreciate it. Thank you.

It would be an amazing experience as a documentary video on bitcointalk will be quite useful for numerous users. I would undoubtedly be one of those who eagerly watch the documentary on the day it's released. This forum is worthy of such an episode because it's the finest platform for countless users who were introduced to the world of cryptocurrencies through it.

Undoubtedly, Satoshi was an active member of this forum and he contributed many posts during its early days. He was one of the first ten users of this forum. Beware of those who spread false rumors that Satoshi was not a part of this forum. There have been many individuals have attempted to twist the truth by sharing fake news.

[AbuBhakar]

I'm not here to stir pots, just really need some OGs help to get this episode done!

If anyone can shed some light on this for me I'd appreciate it. Thank you.

There’s already a detailed thread that records the Bitcointalk forum history from 2009 to 2019 which you needed.

You can check @xtraelv The most iconic bitcointalk threads. History on Bitcointalk. that recorded all the important event that will help you to shed some light on what really happened during the early days of the forum.

[NotATether]

I'm not here to stir pots, just really need some OGs help to get this episode done!

If anyone can shed some light on this for me I'd appreciate it. Thank you.

There’s already a detailed thread that records the Bitcointalk forum history from 2009 to 2019 which you needed.

You can check @xtraelv The most iconic bitcointalk threads. History on Bitcointalk. that recorded all the important event that will help you to shed some light on what really happened during the early days of the forum.

And also contact @OgNasty if you want. Maybe he's interested in supplying you info.

[worldofcoins]

Great to hear that you are working on an educational video series about the crypto world.
As for the answer to your question, BitcoinTalk.org is a forum created by the creator of Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto, in 2009.
Although the forum's domain name was registered in 2011, the meeting may have been hosted on a different domain before that time.
Satoshi's posts were made on the BitcoinTalk forum, but his true identity is unknown.