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April 12, 2023, 07:16:56 PM
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There's no rule violation.

You get limited as soon as you aren't a braindead sportsbettor, that's it.

If you beat the closing line value, your account is dead instantly.

Only exchanges and pinnacle won't limit you but they don't offer that many markets to bet on.


I've been limited from probably 100+ betting accounts, this isn't mafia, rule violation, scam or whatever, I just have better odds models and quicker to adjust than the bookies, so they shut you down cause they don't want any profitable bettor.

Yes, they'll let you win if you're lucky and win betting on dumb stuff, but you're out if you beat their closing odds, even if your bet lose.
That can't be said for the trusted bookies like Stake or many others that are operating out there, they wouldn't limit a gambler only because they win their bets, but they will surely do it if they suspiciously win every single bet that they place which surely raises a red flag about the player, and not every single casino will limit the same player for that one issue you mentioned.

OP has probably violated some rule that every casino has in their terms and conditions and that is the reason why he is limited in almost all of the platforms. Helping him in anyway would only get the helper in trouble if suspected.

You don't know enough about this industry, Stake will limit you too if you win on good bets, not if you win on lucky random bets. If I bet over 210pts on a Nba game the day before the match and the final closing line is 216 over under. You get limited and kick off any bookie in the world not named Pinnacle or exchanges.

I could send you 5 good sharp bets, you place them on your Stake account, and I guarantee you 100% you get limited and banned.
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April 12, 2023, 10:34:09 PM
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That can't be said for the trusted bookies like Stake or many others that are operating out there, they wouldn't limit a gambler only because they win their bets, but they will surely do it if they suspiciously win every single bet that they place which surely raises a red flag about the player, and not every single casino will limit the same player for that one issue you mentioned.

OP has probably violated some rule that every casino has in their terms and conditions and that is the reason why he is limited in almost all of the platforms. Helping him in anyway would only get the helper in trouble if suspected.
I agree with @pop3r5 please avoid spreading fake news while not even belonging to their campaign, there are enough paid shillers spreading BS about them on all threads. If you read carefully all the threads opened against them here, you won't say that anymore. They really look more dishonest and unprofessional than most of fiat bookies. They have no scruples about limiting or banning winners without notice, even if they used to spend large amounts of money in the past.

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April 13, 2023, 12:10:16 PM
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So sorry abut your experience with 1xbet. They are a scam casino infamous for their scam activities on their casino. They have scammed so many of their members and their reputation here is dented and account flagged for scamming people of their hard earned resources. They are also running a campaign here and virtually all the campaigners and promoters have been flagged for dealing and helping them to promote their scam site.  @Alisha you are advising to make use of 1xbet after fully aware of the state of 1xbet presence here . Do you want him to be scammed.  Do well to do your own research before engaging 1xbet so that " had i known" will not be your thoughts after being scammed by them.
The user who is referring them to 1xbet or 1xbit is one of their signature campaign participants and they are paid to promote the website, so it's obvious that they will suggest that casino but it's a gamblers own responsibility to choose a platform that they know is trusted and will not scam them out of their money.

For OP's case, he is already tagged himself to be a violator since he is limited in almost every bookie or gambling platform out there, so I'm not sure if he would get any help from anyone unless he is proven not guilty.
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April 13, 2023, 12:27:47 PM
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I could send you 5 good sharp bets, you place them on your Stake account, and I guarantee you 100% you get limited and banned.

In general you are right. You win and you look like what you are doing and not like a degen gambler you will most likely get flagged as a "non profitable player" .

Getting limited for 5 "sharp bets" is nonsense I think.
If your bets are so sharp then you should be a rich guy then.

First of all it always depends on your overall +/- for deposits and withdrawals if an account gets limited. Also of course your recent gameplay, but not 5 bets only.

If you don't withdraw your winnings after every win then you won't get flagged that easy.

When you only bet 2 or 3 sports like I did in the past they will also think you are more than a recreative player. Gamblers bet on everything that's available while people that take it serious specialize on a handful of sports where they have knowledge about.

Bookies want recreative players, that's how it's always been.

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April 13, 2023, 12:36:45 PM
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Bookies want recreative players, that's how it's always been.

Bookies want gamblers, that's why they will limit if a gambler keeps winning because they still want them to gamble. However, they will never ban a gambler as long as they don't violate the rules. For OP, he is limited in most gambling sites, so that means he keeps winning. I guess it's not a big problem, though, as he can just convince his friends or relatives to create an account for him.

Why choose here when you don't know the users, and it might be a red flag that way?

@OP, maybe try to be more transparent here. Personally, I don't like the words "PM" when it comes to opportunities, as it mostly disappoints me.

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April 13, 2023, 01:21:53 PM
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I could send you 5 good sharp bets, you place them on your Stake account, and I guarantee you 100% you get limited and banned.

In general you are right. You win and you look like what you are doing and not like a degen gambler you will most likely get flagged as a "non profitable player" .

Getting limited for 5 "sharp bets" is nonsense I think.
If your bets are so sharp then you should be a rich guy then.

First of all it always depends on your overall +/- for deposits and withdrawals if an account gets limited. Also of course your recent gameplay, but not 5 bets only.

If you don't withdraw your winnings after every win then you won't get flagged that easy.

When you only bet 2 or 3 sports like I did in the past they will also think you are more than a recreative player. Gamblers bet on everything that's available while people that take it serious specialize on a handful of sports where they have knowledge about.

Bookies want recreative players, that's how it's always been.

This is not your industry, it's okay not knowing the in and outs of a business you're not in.

I sometimes get limited at the first sharp bet, not even 5 bets, new account without profiling or history, first one, rip, hello BetVictor, hello Bwin, hello william hill, hello Sportsbet, one good bet and you're out already so there's is no withdraw/deposit parameters nor there's is multisports criteria.

Almost impossible to become rich cause you can't stake anything anywhere, we're chasing new bookies everyday.

The things you did in the past doesnt matter, you did shit bets on random events, of course they won't ban or limit you even if you win 100 000$. It's all about beating the CLV, closing line value, if you do, whether or not you win the bet you're out. You can lose the said 1st bet and limited while on the red. You won't get limited ever if you win by beating them while betting the over under on Nba 3minutes before the match, cause this is pure luck, the line and odds they offer at kickoff are ''perfect'', the odds and lines has been sharpened out by the good players in the previous hours and days.

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April 13, 2023, 01:36:47 PM
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I could send you 5 good sharp bets, you place them on your Stake account, and I guarantee you 100% you get limited and banned.

In general you are right. You win and you look like what you are doing and not like a degen gambler you will most likely get flagged as a "non profitable player" .

Getting limited for 5 "sharp bets" is nonsense I think.
If your bets are so sharp then you should be a rich guy then.

First of all it always depends on your overall +/- for deposits and withdrawals if an account gets limited. Also of course your recent gameplay, but not 5 bets only.

If you don't withdraw your winnings after every win then you won't get flagged that easy.

When you only bet 2 or 3 sports like I did in the past they will also think you are more than a recreative player. Gamblers bet on everything that's available while people that take it serious specialize on a handful of sports where they have knowledge about.

Bookies want recreative players, that's how it's always been.

This is not your industry, it's okay not knowing the in and outs of a business you're not in.

I sometimes get limited at the first sharp bet, not even 5 bets, new account without profiling or history, first one, rip, hello BetVictor, hello Bwin, hello william hill, hello Sportsbet, one good bet and you're out already so there's is no withdraw/deposit parameters nor there's is multisports criteria.

Almost impossible to become rich cause you can't stake anything anywhere, we're chasing new bookies everyday.

The things you did in the past doesnt matter, you did shit bets on random events, of course they won't ban or limit you even if you win 100 000$. It's all about beating the CLV, closing line value, if you do, whether or not you win the bet you're out. You can lose the said 1st bet and limited while on the red. You won't get limited ever if you win by beating them while betting the over under on Nba 3minutes before the match, cause this is pure luck, the line and odds they offer at kickoff are ''perfect'', the odds and lines has been sharpened out by the good players in the previous hours and days.



Hmm, ok whatever you say. Seems like you got it all figured out, limited after 1 bet, smh.

And "my industry", what are you talking about? I am old enough to have an over 20 year experience. Yesterday you wrote me a PM because you saw I commented I am as well limited at many sites. Back in 2001 Bwin (my first real bookie)  limited me to 100$ , then to 25$ and then to 0.10$. That's when it started. In other words, I know this business.

In your message this all sounded a little different: "I'm quite new to the crypto game and thought maybe this could be a good out to place bets. I'm betting mainly niche markets and low tiers league."

Of course if you bet niche markets and small leagues you are more likely on their radar. Still not after 1 bet.

Anyway, hope you keep winning, good luck.

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April 13, 2023, 01:56:31 PM
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And "my industry", what are you talking about? I am old enough to have an over 20 year experience. Yesterday you wrote me a PM because you saw I commented I am as well limited at many sites. Back in 2001 Bwin (my first real bookie)  limited me to 100$ , then to 25$ and then to 0.10$. That's when it started. In other words, I know this business.

In your message this all sounded a little different: "I'm quite new to the crypto game and thought maybe this could be a good out to place bets. I'm betting mainly niche markets and low tiers league."

Of course if you bet niche markets and small leagues you are more likely on their radar. Still not after 1 bet.

Anyway, hope you keep winning, good luck.


I'm new to crypto bookies, i'm trying to find new outs cause I can't bet shit anywhere, since yesterday, been limited from 2 crypto ones already. The thing is you can either destroy small markets at a 15-20% clip or main ones at 3%. I still do all my main ones on asian bookies brokers where they don't limit but betting my monthly  turnover on a 2-3% yield versus on a 20% yield isn't exactly as profitable so everytime I'm out of accounts, I go back to sportmarket asia and stake there.

Anyway, no clue why I try to explain OP problem, i guess it just pains that these bookies pratices aren't exposed and people still think bookies allow people to win.
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April 13, 2023, 02:10:08 PM
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Looks like op got screwed by placing a lot of winning bets on smaller leagues which is why his proposition could grant huge rewards, but it could also screw your accounts up which is why it isn't advisable.

It's better to gamble on your own instead of adding in this extra layer of risk in my honest opinion.

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April 13, 2023, 02:59:45 PM
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Bookies want gamblers, that's why they will limit if a gambler keeps winning because they still want them to gamble. However, they will never ban a gambler as long as they don't violate the rules. For OP, he is limited in most gambling sites, so that means he keeps winning. I guess it's not a big problem, though, as he can just convince his friends or relatives to create an account for him.
Actually, instead of making small bets and often getting wins, it's better to bet in a certain time rhythm but with a larger bet amount so that the profits that can be taken are quite large, but on the other hand, the account is not limited by the dealer.
I don't bet too often but when I have enough confidence and there is a big opportunity bet on the bet I will raise it bigger.

It is highly discouraged to ask relatives or family members to create a gambling account because there are casinos that require KYC. In addition, most gamblers do not want their family or relatives to know that they are a gambler.

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April 13, 2023, 04:39:03 PM
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There's no rule violation.

You get limited as soon as you aren't a braindead sportsbettor, that's it.

If you beat the closing line value, your account is dead instantly.

Only exchanges and pinnacle won't limit you but they don't offer that many markets to bet on.


I've been limited from probably 100+ betting accounts, this isn't mafia, rule violation, scam or whatever, I just have better odds models and quicker to adjust than the bookies, so they shut you down cause they don't want any profitable bettor.

Yes, they'll let you win if you're lucky and win betting on dumb stuff, but you're out if you beat their closing odds, even if your bet lose.
That can't be said for the trusted bookies like Stake or many others that are operating out there, they wouldn't limit a gambler only because they win their bets, but they will surely do it if they suspiciously win every single bet that they place which surely raises a red flag about the player, and not every single casino will limit the same player for that one issue you mentioned.

OP has probably violated some rule that every casino has in their terms and conditions and that is the reason why he is limited in almost all of the platforms. Helping him in anyway would only get the helper in trouble if suspected.

You don't know enough about this industry, Stake will limit you too if you win on good bets, not if you win on lucky random bets. If I bet over 210pts on a Nba game the day before the match and the final closing line is 216 over under. You get limited and kick off any bookie in the world not named Pinnacle or exchanges.

I could send you 5 good sharp bets, you place them on your Stake account, and I guarantee you 100% you get limited and banned.

I can confirm stake limits..I am proof of it lol
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April 13, 2023, 07:51:17 PM
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Bookies want gamblers, that's why they will limit if a gambler keeps winning because they still want them to gamble. However, they will never ban a gambler as long as they don't violate the rules. For OP, he is limited in most gambling sites, so that means he keeps winning. I guess it's not a big problem, though, as he can just convince his friends or relatives to create an account for him.
Actually, instead of making small bets and often getting wins, it's better to bet in a certain time rhythm but with a larger bet amount so that the profits that can be taken are quite large, but on the other hand, the account is not limited by the dealer.
I don't bet too often but when I have enough confidence and there is a big opportunity bet on the bet I will raise it bigger.

It is highly discouraged to ask relatives or family members to create a gambling account because there are casinos that require KYC. In addition, most gamblers do not want their family or relatives to know that they are a gambler.

Well that depends on the type of family, in my case I am not ashamed to say that I play in a casino, because they know that I am very Controlled when it comes to money, it is known that if you enter a casino it is because you have money that you can lose and that there is Nothing else to think about, all the time it is advised that you should put the money that one can lose more than the one that one wants to win, it is impossible to Determine what money one will earn,you have to have a lot of lucky to do it, good to predict and do it.

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April 13, 2023, 08:00:17 PM
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Bookies want gamblers, that's why they will limit if a gambler keeps winning because they still want them to gamble. However, they will never ban a gambler as long as they don't violate the rules. For OP, he is limited in most gambling sites, so that means he keeps winning. I guess it's not a big problem, though, as he can just convince his friends or relatives to create an account for him.
Actually, instead of making small bets and often getting wins, it's better to bet in a certain time rhythm but with a larger bet amount so that the profits that can be taken are quite large, but on the other hand, the account is not limited by the dealer.
I don't bet too often but when I have enough confidence and there is a big opportunity bet on the bet I will raise it bigger.

It is highly discouraged to ask relatives or family members to create a gambling account because there are casinos that require KYC. In addition, most gamblers do not want their family or relatives to know that they are a gambler.

Well that depends on the type of family, in my case I am not ashamed to say that I play in a casino, because they know that I am very Controlled when it comes to money, it is known that if you enter a casino it is because you have money that you can lose and that there is Nothing else to think about, all the time it is advised that you should put the money that one can lose more than the one that one wants to win, it is impossible to Determine what money one will earn,you have to have a lot of lucky to do it, good to predict and do it.

Like I would always say, the best way to enjoy gambling is to lose the money before you actually lose it...
That is, if you budget that you are going to gamble with $50, then even while you have not started gambling, consider that $50 lost before you actually lose it, this will help you relax your mind if eventually the money is lost in the course of gambling, one thing that causes depression and anxiety is expecting to win big amount of money, which if not won at the end of the day, would cause the player to become disappointed and angry with himself and those around or her.

So the best way is to only gamble with as much as one can afford to loss, this way, if one does not end up wining, he or she does not get too hard or him or herself.

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Like I would always say, the best way to enjoy gambling is to lose the money before you actually lose it...
That is, if you budget that you are going to gamble with $50, then even while you have not started gambling, consider that $50 lost before you actually lose it, this will help you relax your mind if eventually the money is lost in the course of gambling, one thing that causes depression and anxiety is expecting to win big amount of money, which if not won at the end of the day, would cause the player to become disappointed and angry with himself and those around or her.
This is indeed very funny but, it would work and in the event that you even win, the joys would be much while, the lose would make no meaning since the money was already lost.
What this simply means is that, the money your betting with, is a money that your ready to lose and that's the right attitude.

Looks like op got screwed by placing a lot of winning bets on smaller leagues which is why his proposition could grant huge rewards, but it could also screw your accounts up which is why it isn't advisable.

It's better to gamble on your own instead of adding in this extra layer of risk in my honest opinion.
Possibly that could be it and it did hit me just now. I recall some compliants from a user sometime last year when his wins got frozen on Fortune bet, I think the issue was on repeated bets on same events. Hence, OP having his or her account frozen won't be far from a term being bridged as, there isn't anything wrong with winning.

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This is not your industry, it's okay not knowing the in and outs of a business you're not in.

I sometimes get limited at the first sharp bet, not even 5 bets, new account without profiling or history, first one, rip, hello BetVictor, hello Bwin, hello william hill, hello Sportsbet, one good bet and you're out already so there's is no withdraw/deposit parameters nor there's is multisports criteria.

Almost impossible to become rich cause you can't stake anything anywhere, we're chasing new bookies everyday.

The things you did in the past doesnt matter, you did shit bets on random events, of course they won't ban or limit you even if you win 100 000$. It's all about beating the CLV, closing line value, if you do, whether or not you win the bet you're out. You can lose the said 1st bet and limited while on the red. You won't get limited ever if you win by beating them while betting the over under on Nba 3minutes before the match, cause this is pure luck, the line and odds they offer at kickoff are ''perfect'', the odds and lines has been sharpened out by the good players in the previous hours and days.
Crypto bookies don't only look at how you are betting, they are also looking at where do your funds come from on the blockchain, and monitor your IP, user-agent/fingerprint and cookie in order to guess if you are using an alt account. Some of them are even using pixel tracking in emails. So if you got limited or banned as soon as your very first bet, it can be because your fingerprint has been blacklisted by the odds provider.

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April 14, 2023, 01:54:36 AM
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And "my industry", what are you talking about? I am old enough to have an over 20 year experience. Yesterday you wrote me a PM because you saw I commented I am as well limited at many sites. Back in 2001 Bwin (my first real bookie)  limited me to 100$ , then to 25$ and then to 0.10$. That's when it started. In other words, I know this business.

In your message this all sounded a little different: "I'm quite new to the crypto game and thought maybe this could be a good out to place bets. I'm betting mainly niche markets and low tiers league."

Of course if you bet niche markets and small leagues you are more likely on their radar. Still not after 1 bet.

Anyway, hope you keep winning, good luck.


I'm new to crypto bookies, i'm trying to find new outs cause I can't bet shit anywhere, since yesterday, been limited from 2 crypto ones already. The thing is you can either destroy small markets at a 15-20% clip or main ones at 3%. I still do all my main ones on asian bookies brokers where they don't limit but betting my monthly  turnover on a 2-3% yield versus on a 20% yield isn't exactly as profitable so everytime I'm out of accounts, I go back to sportmarket asia and stake there.

Anyway, no clue why I try to explain OP problem, i guess it just pains that these bookies pratices aren't exposed and people still think bookies allow people to win.

From what you wrote it seems you know what are talking about. Why don't you use local bookies (shops or terminals) to take value ?
You use Sportmarket agent as I understood? If yes good choice, just be cautious with some asians there that are known for voiding bets (I assume you use Pro).


Sportmarket the best asian broker for sure, no deposit nor cashout fees, 2nd choice betinasia, all others have big fees either on money in/out or fees on turnoverso easy choice. As far as the void bets, SingBet have been turn off a long long time ago, yet I still got fucked 2500$ in void bets on 2-3 bets I just couldnt pass on cause it was money on the floor but whatever, I knew there was a void chance with this scam bookie.

I'm in Canada in a state where there's no local bookie, terminal, shops whatsoever Sad

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This is not your industry, it's okay not knowing the in and outs of a business you're not in.

I sometimes get limited at the first sharp bet, not even 5 bets, new account without profiling or history, first one, rip, hello BetVictor, hello Bwin, hello william hill, hello Sportsbet, one good bet and you're out already so there's is no withdraw/deposit parameters nor there's is multisports criteria.

Almost impossible to become rich cause you can't stake anything anywhere, we're chasing new bookies everyday.

The things you did in the past doesnt matter, you did shit bets on random events, of course they won't ban or limit you even if you win 100 000$. It's all about beating the CLV, closing line value, if you do, whether or not you win the bet you're out. You can lose the said 1st bet and limited while on the red. You won't get limited ever if you win by beating them while betting the over under on Nba 3minutes before the match, cause this is pure luck, the line and odds they offer at kickoff are ''perfect'', the odds and lines has been sharpened out by the good players in the previous hours and days.
Crypto bookies don't only look at how you are betting, they are also looking at where do your funds come from on the blockchain, and monitor your IP, user-agent/fingerprint and cookie in order to guess if you are using an alt account. Some of them are even using pixel tracking in emails. So if you got limited or banned as soon as your very first bet, it can be because your fingerprint has been blacklisted by the odds provider.
The crypto bookies have upped the ante, so look out! Our IP addresses and cookie data are being monitored in addition to our wagers. This is the makings of a mind-blowing science fiction film!

But hear me out, because this is critical information. I knew there were downsides to internet gambling, but this is a completely different can of worms. They might be the protagonists in their very own Big Brother episode.

So here's the deal, can we trust these bookies? Are they really playing fair and square? Or maybe, just maybe, they're using all this high-tech tracking wizardry to tip the scales? It's a rhetorical question, of course. But it sure makes you think, doesn't it?

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April 14, 2023, 10:29:36 AM
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So here's the deal, can we trust these bookies? Are they really playing fair and square? Or maybe, just maybe, they're using all this high-tech tracking wizardry to tip the scales? It's a rhetorical question, of course. But it sure makes you think, doesn't it?
No gambling business plays fair and square. They take their cut(Vig in sports betting and Edge in casino games) in order to make sure that they stay in profit excluding a few occasions.

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I have an offer you can't refuse
Please don't invite people to do the wrong thing, if you have limits in every casino, it means, you can't play and also can't invite people who have the same restrictions as you.

@OP, maybe try to be more transparent here. Personally, I don't like the words "PM" when it comes to opportunities, as it mostly disappoints me.
he most likely invites links to people via PM, that's why he tried to make it even more interesting.
and maybe he has something special for the user who has been banned on Bookmarker which I think that very risky to get a fool or scam if already deposit and registered by the link he gives.

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April 16, 2023, 08:40:40 AM
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@OP, maybe try to be more transparent here. Personally, I don't like the words "PM" when it comes to opportunities, as it mostly disappoints me.
he most likely invites links to people via PM, that's why he tried to make it even more interesting.
and maybe he has something special for the user who has been banned on Bookmarker which I think that very risky to get a fool or scam if already deposit and registered by the link he gives.
In my understaing, OP is not trying to get referrals here, but he has been limited by almost all the casinos and sportsbooks and he is trying to find a way he can bet again, and that is the reason why he said that he has an offer one cannot refuse, which means he will probably pay money or something in return for making bets for him.

Whoever tries to get into his words and does what he says will only pose threats to themselves and their accounts at a casino or sportsbook used. He probably has done something suspicious that caused him to get limited in every casino out there.

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