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I saw this announcement just popped up on my screen, and as I used the forum search, I did not see that it had been posted, so I decided to create the topic. "The Crypto Marchants" have designed a waterproof crypto wallet case as an additional option for crypto users to protect their hardware wallets and offline cold storage devices. Hardware wallets or some other cold storage device can get distroyed through external factors like fire or water, but the advantages are that even if a hardware wallet gets distroyed and the crypto user still has their private key, they can still import their address to a safe wallet or possibly buy a new hardware wallet and import the address to get back their coins. So guys, do you think the new waterproof case is really so necessary for use? In terms of hard cases, The Crypto Merchant offers a few case options. The Casematix Waterproof Hard Case features a military-grade shell, waterproof O-ring lining, and air-pressurization seal, and it's capable of holding hardware wallets from Ledger, Trezor, and more. Another option is the Casematix Hardware Wallet Travel & Protection Case, which offers similar security features as the Hard Case, only in a more compact and portable way. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fiili.io%2FHkNlGCF.md.png&t=665&c=TkqNXHZ9-QTbLg)
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Yes it is useful for untimely damage, the waterproof case can even protect it from scratch and preventing measures. The image is very bigger and that means it can be sighted very easily wherever you kept it. It is a nice development. Since it is a new production, it would be hard to get it everywhere but it might be in specific location in the globe. With this case the hardware Wallet can be kept inside and hide it in a place that you won't forget. And in any place you drop it, the hardware Wallet would not be affected since the main wallet is protected by the case.
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there are a few other ways to protect a trezor.
but this one is nice.
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April 10, 2023, 06:03:00 AM |
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The best one: ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FzGNp1Ttd%2FScreenshot-from-2023-04-10-08-59-27.png&t=665&c=4XBxye2HLB7X7A)
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April 10, 2023, 08:34:48 AM |
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Hardware wallet enables people to make transactions in a hostile environment without risking losing funds upon sending due to viruses or other malicious factors. It is not equipped to be hidden in a sealed container, buried in the backyard, or somewhere else because it all goes against its actual use cases. It is simply pointless to rely on all these protection measures since the device itself may break or a serious vulnerability may be found, which would make a hardware wallet very dangerous for further operation. On the other hand, the materials like stainless steel, titanium, or even regular paper can, in theory, last for hundreds of years: these are real examples of cold storage. It is these things that should be protected by fire-proof and water-proof containers and not technically-sophisticated devices with microchips that are designed to be replaced by a newer model every year.
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April 10, 2023, 11:39:12 AM |
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there are a few other ways to protect a trezor.
but this one is nice.
It could also give the user of possible options in how to store all of their physical back ups. I hide my back ups in different parts of the house, hide one in the car, hide another one in my parent's house, and now with the Waterproof Crypto Wallet Case, I can hide one in the toilet tank! ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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April 10, 2023, 11:57:55 AM |
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Hardware wallet enables people to make transactions in a hostile environment without risking losing funds upon sending due to viruses or other malicious factors. It is not equipped to be hidden in a sealed container, buried in the backyard, or somewhere else because it all goes against its actual use cases. It is simply pointless to rely on all these protection measures since the device itself may break or a serious vulnerability may be found, which would make a hardware wallet very dangerous for further operation. On the other hand, the materials like stainless steel, titanium, or even regular paper can, in theory, last for hundreds of years: these are real examples of cold storage. It is these things that should be protected by fire-proof and water-proof containers and not technically-sophisticated devices with microchips that are designed to be replaced by a newer model every year.
That's the main purpose of hardware wallet, and the case protection is just an added advantage to hardware wallet it's self. In as much as we keep our hardware wallet safe, no one is too careful and no one is also too careless, so in my opinion the water proof case is a great idea for those who tend to send all their funds into a hardware wallet and hold on for long without even touching or constantly visiting to check how safe the water is. With this case protection, owners of hardware wallets are guaranteed rust free, water damage, and some kind of slit break, but unless it's intentional, I don't think that case can easily be broken, The advantage of this water-proof wallet is higher than the possible damage it can cause, of which I doubt there will even be any.
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April 10, 2023, 12:41:46 PM |
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It is simply pointless to rely on all these protection measures since the device itself may break or a serious vulnerability may be found, which would make a hardware wallet very dangerous for further operation.
@Witcher_sense I don't think the idea of this waterproof case is bad; perhaps it provides additional security to the hardware wallet, and like @Agbe said, it's bigger and can easily be seen in any location you choose to hide it in should you decide to make use of it. This waterproof HardwareWallet case can be used to store other wallet security devices, even your security keys. When you decide to hide the case in any water storage facility in your house, the case makes it easy for you to freely do that without it being distroyed, and just as @wind_fury said, you can store it in a toilet water tank. It can also be hidden in a kitchen draining pipe.
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Maybe I am wrong, but it doesn't give me the impression of a secure case capable of surviving the most extreme stress tests. And if I am going to buy a case or safe, I want it to do exactly that. Otherwise, why bother with something halfway good? I would love to watch a stress test video to see how it copes with fires, acid, being dropped from high up, etc.
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Hardware wallets are not designed to be protected from external factors and are intended only for everyday use. I am sure you understand all this and therefore, depending on the living conditions, such cases can be useful and help keep the device in working order. It will be very sad if you urgently need access to your crypto assets, but HW device turns out to be out of order. Of course, what OP offers is a good offer, but I found it cheaper (2 times) with a lazy search on the well-known Chinese site - item 1. It looks just as ugly (is the appearance so important), but at least cheaper (as always, merchant sellers sin with inflated prices), performs its protective functions (didn't check - I don’t know), the seller will not recognize your personal data as the owner of the hardware wallet (this you can buy a case for a regular flash drive, right). I see it like this (put one into the other): hardware wallet -> waterproof case -> fireproof case -> shockproof (metal?) case - and then you can rest easy knowing your assets are safe. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Oh yes, I almost forgot: item 2 - fireproof case, for example. As a shockproof case, any box made of durable metal with thick walls (it would be better if there are additional stiffening ribs inside), such as stainless steel, but not soft aluminum, can be used. In fact, shockproof and waterproof cases can be combined, it is enough to make the metal case airtight (waterproof gasket). P.S. This is not an advertisement for the well-known Chinese site of all sorts of junk. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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So guys, do you think the new waterproof case is really so necessary for use?
The main issue with almost all of these so-called waterproof cases is the fact that they're "only" water-resistant as opposed to being waterproof [in other words, they can only provide protection to a certain degree (ignore anyone that says otherwise)]! and now with the Waterproof Crypto Wallet Case, I can hide one in the toilet tank!
You shouldn't... Most "high-quality or rather original" pelican cases have an " IP rating of 67" [they're not meant to be submerged for a long period of time].
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April 10, 2023, 07:33:29 PM |
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Maybe I am wrong, but it doesn't give me the impression of a secure case capable of surviving the most extreme stress tests. And if I am going to buy a case or safe, I want it to do exactly that. Otherwise, why bother with something halfway good? I would love to watch a stress test video to see how it copes with fires, acid, being dropped from high up, etc.
But unfortunately the company doesn't have any videos; they have only given a few descriptions of the stress or tension the case can withstand. I am not against the use of this kind of case, but I don't really need it now, but if I should buy one, it would be of the same choice like what you think. At least a case that is resistant to every factor that could damage the hardware wallet, such as water, fire, heat, etc. But anyways, the waterproof case could still save crypto users from the chance of their hardware wallet or private key device being distroyed should it come in contact with water or any external factors that can distroy it apart from fire. The main issue with almost all of these so-called waterproof cases is the fact that they're "only" water-resistant as opposed to being waterproof [in other words, they can only provide protection to a certain degree (ignore anyone that says otherwise)]!
That's true, the security measures are just to some certain level, unless you go with a case that can really withstand all the possible factors that can destroy the hardware wallet. I don't need these cases now because I don't yet have a hardware wallet, but it's good that I am already learning how to protect a hardware wallet and which case is best to use.
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April 10, 2023, 08:18:09 PM |
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The design looks ugly, and its strange shape and company logo are enough to confuse thieves. The device is very small, so why does it need a case of this size? I did a quick search on dimensions and found:
Ugly???.. As long as it serves it purpose I'm good with it and moreover it's not something you carry around to impress someone. It's just a protective covering for the ledger. Maybe I am wrong, but it doesn't give me the impression of a secure case capable of surviving the most extreme stress tests. And if I am going to buy a case or safe, I want it to do exactly that. Otherwise, why bother with something halfway good? I would love to watch a stress test video to see how it copes with fires, acid, being dropped from high up, etc.
You raised a valid point chief, I wish there's a video for one to see how it does when subjected to stress test. It would give one some sorts of assurance and confidence of what one is paying for.
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Somebody should also be making these cases fireproof as well as waterproof (actually waterproof, and not just "water-resistant for a few hours"). A house fire is easily capable of destroying your hardware wallet as well. I see it like this (put one into the other): hardware wallet -> waterproof case -> fireproof case -> shockproof (metal?) case - and then you can rest easy knowing your assets are safe. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I disagree. The case should be both fireproof and waterproof. It is not necessary to make it resistant to shocks because you shouldn't be leaving your HW outside on the ground for a lightning strike in the first place.
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It is not necessary to make it resistant to shocks because you shouldn't be leaving your HW outside on the ground for a lightning strike in the first place. Shockproof resistant means that the item inside doesn't suffer damages if you drop it by accident from a distance. It's got nothing to do with lightning strikes. Perhaps you carry the case in your hands, trip, and drop it to the ground. Or it falls down from a shelf, etc. A good safe should have sufficient padding inside, so if something like that happens, the HW doesn't break.
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I saw this announcement just popped up on my screen, and as I used the forum search, I did not see that it had been posted, so I decided to create the topic. If device itself is not waterproof (like most hardware wallets), I wouldn't waste a lot of money to buy special dedicated boxes to make them waterproof. There are simple universal dry bags that can be used for storing anything including hardware wallets, and there are also cheap plastic zip bags that does the job. Making this case fireproof, shockproof and waterproof would probably make it more interesting for people, but that would also increase the price.
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April 12, 2023, 02:01:21 PM |
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Somebody should also be making these cases fireproof as well as waterproof (actually waterproof, and not just "water-resistant for a few hours"). A house fire is easily capable of destroying your hardware wallet as well. I see it like this (put one into the other): hardware wallet -> waterproof case -> fireproof case -> shockproof (metal?) case - and then you can rest easy knowing your assets are safe. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I disagree. The case should be both fireproof and waterproof. It is not necessary to make it resistant to shocks because you shouldn't be leaving your HW outside on the ground for a lightning strike in the first place. And how do you propose to combine fire resistance with water resistance? It seems to me that this will not be easy to combine in one case. Those materials that provide good protection against the penetration of moisture and water, most likely will not have the ability to withstand the high temperatures that occur during combustion. Simply, these materials (like silicone) will melt or burn. To protect your HW device1 from lightning (although I didn’t mention anything about lightning before), make a lightning rod. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) It is not necessary to make it resistant to shocks because you shouldn't be leaving your HW outside on the ground for a lightning strike in the first place. Shockproof resistant means that the item inside doesn't suffer damages if you drop it by accident from a distance. It's got nothing to do with lightning strikes. Perhaps you carry the case in your hands, trip, and drop it to the ground. Or it falls down from a shelf, etc. A good safe should have sufficient padding inside, so if something like that happens, the HW doesn't break. It's not even that you can drop hardware wallet (ordinary foam rubber, which will be sheathed on the inside of the case, will help here). Shock resistance is needed so that the case can withstand the fall of heavy objects on it. For example, bricks or blocks from breaking walls during an earthquake (or other force majeure circumstances). Of course, this will not protect against very heavy objects, such as concrete walls or floor slabs of apartments, but additional protection will never be superfluous. In general, it is impossible to protect yourself from all 33 misfortunes, but you can protect yourself from some of it by choosing a certain type of case (or several). Which one will depend on individual preferences and the environment (situation). Don't look for universal solutions.
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Ugly???.. As long as it serves it purpose I'm good with it and moreover it's not something you carry around to impress someone. It's just a protective covering for the ledger.
Not only is it ugly, but it also attracts attention. It is true that you do not want to impress others with it, but make it more difficult to notice, especially to thieves or even your friends who may easily recognize it when they come to your house. Add to this the increase in size, which makes it difficult to hide it, and it is not possible to put more than one hardware wallet inside it.
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This is a universal storage, it can be used for other items not just Hardware Wallet. The design also looks big and it does look flashy as described by some members here. Look at the price, it's not cheap at around $150. I'd save the $150 for other protectors that are more worthit and still pretty cheap. For $20, you can get a storage made of fireproof and waterproof Aluminum Alloy. CryptoPod Only $20 https://www.amazon.com/Crypto-Ledger-Nano-Case-Cryptocurrency/dp/B096SSSRD7?th=1
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