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June 05, 2023, 11:48:05 AM |
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One thing regarding the wagering requirements, is that most of us have fallen for not reading very high wagering requirements,in fact when I land on one that says 10x I already know that I will not get anything from there, because it is obvious I'm not going to get there, if nothing else, sometimes with 1x you can lose everything, now 10x no matter how much patience you have or something is achievable, but it has to be someone with a demonstration of Faith and a lot of Experience , in Addition to having a lot of Good luck , it's the only way I can see that things can happen, otherwise I don't think so, as I've seen 30x, 50x, 100x requirements, things that are not within my reach.
You were lucky to have detected that earlier and that is because of your prior knowledge of what the negative impact the wagering requirements are for the gambler against the casino and also failed to read the terms and conditions of the casino and to know what their wagering requirement will be, any wagering requirements that is above 1x then it a pilot that will fly the gambler to many lose eventually. Indeed, knowing the require wagering requirements gives you an idea that the goal is not achievable or the chance of losing your initial capital would be the end point of your gambling sessions, x1 is far different from x10 if you see the requirement like that it's better not to proceed. If you like to check out is always needed to note out that depositing small amount will help you to avoid having a big loss. If you failed to read the terms and conditions, consider your deposit as part of knowing the site and you can avoid to play back with that bad experienced that you got.
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June 05, 2023, 12:07:30 PM |
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One thing regarding the wagering requirements, is that most of us have fallen for not reading very high wagering requirements,in fact when I land on one that says 10x I already know that I will not get anything from there, because it is obvious I'm not going to get there, if nothing else, sometimes with 1x you can lose everything, now 10x no matter how much patience you have or something is achievable, but it has to be someone with a demonstration of Faith and a lot of Experience , in Addition to having a lot of Good luck , it's the only way I can see that things can happen, otherwise I don't think so, as I've seen 30x, 50x, 100x requirements, things that are not within my reach.
You were lucky to have detected that earlier and that is because of your prior knowledge of what the negative impact the wagering requirements are for the gambler against the casino and also failed to read the terms and conditions of the casino and to know what their wagering requirement will be, any wagering requirements that is above 1x then it a pilot that will fly the gambler to many lose eventually. Indeed, knowing the require wagering requirements gives you an idea that the goal is not achievable or the chance of losing your initial capital would be the end point of your gambling sessions, x1 is far different from x10 if you see the requirement like that it's better not to proceed. If you like to check out is always needed to note out that depositing small amount will help you to avoid having a big loss. If you failed to read the terms and conditions, consider your deposit as part of knowing the site and you can avoid to play back with that bad experienced that you got. And another thing I personally do is try as much as possible to avoid bonuses that require I achieve a certain hidden wagering requirement before I could make a withdrawal, no doubt some casino are very dubious in their operations, they offer their users a big bonus and then hide the wager requirement attached to the bonus, users start depositing in respect of claiming the bonus, only to discover that their funds are trapped and no way out except they gamble, which possibly, they might end up loosing the entire money.
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June 05, 2023, 12:48:33 PM |
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Casinos can always work well to suppress bonus manipulation figures and even casinos will give strict sanctions to be banned or even freeze all balances that are owned so we don't do things like that to avoid any problems. Usually some betting requirements for withdrawal are only owned by a few casinos and not all casinos provide these requirements only to withdraw a certain amount of money except for the proceeds from the bonus that the casino gives. Moreover, in the FAQ we can read whatever we want to know so we can avoid things that we find burdensome and difficult.
That is why those who want to abuse bonuses from casinos should think again that, in the end, the casinos will still know about it and freeze all their balances and even the casinos can close their accounts easily. And when that happens, they are also the ones who will lose because they can't use or even register at the casino anymore. Wagering requirements for withdrawal usually apply in certain events so we don't need to try everything especially if we feel it will be difficult to collect the bonus. And we should read the FAQ before we decide and ask the support service if we still don't understand. Unfortunately they don't think about it because they think that in the gambling industry there are lots of casinos that they can take advantage of. When they are banned at one casino there are still other casinos that can be used. This is why fraudulent acts of bonus abuse occur all the time at any casino. It's true that I myself have several times received bonuses with a nominal value of tens of USDT but must meet the betting and deposit requirements to be able to withdraw the proceeds from the bonus. If it feels like it's worth it, I'll do it happily, but unfortunately it's always higher than what I get, so to pull it off, I think many times first. The FAQ always provides what we need such as withdrawal conditions or other things. We have to be able to think about the eligibility to take the bonus or whether we don't need to take it because we have to adjust to the budget we have set. After all, we can still join or participate in other events which might be more affordable for us to get the bonus. But don't even think about abusing the bonus given by the casino because after all, the casino will find out about it and might freeze our gambling account. And if it's been frozen, maybe we will be blacklisted from the casino. And we must really pay attention to the betting requirements before deciding to deposit money as one of the casino's requirements to participate in the event.
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June 05, 2023, 01:11:58 PM |
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And another thing I personally do is try as much as possible to avoid bonuses that require I achieve a certain hidden wagering requirement before I could make a withdrawal, no doubt some casinos are very dubious in their operations, they offer their users a big bonus and then hide the wagering requirement attached to the bonus, users start depositing in respect of claiming the bonus, only to discover that their funds are trapped and no way out except they gamble, which possibly, they might end up losing the entire money.
Yes exactly, bonuses are the trap most casinos used to trap players because in some cases you will see a casino offering over 200% bonuses on deposits but if you check the wagering requirement you will see as high as 20x - 30x wagering time and this is something that is almost impossible to achieve and at that players are constantly losing the entire deposits and winning trying to meet the wager requirements for withdrawal.
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June 05, 2023, 01:47:30 PM |
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And another thing I personally do is try as much as possible to avoid bonuses that require I achieve a certain hidden wagering requirement before I could make a withdrawal, no doubt some casinos are very dubious in their operations, they offer their users a big bonus and then hide the wagering requirement attached to the bonus, users start depositing in respect of claiming the bonus, only to discover that their funds are trapped and no way out except they gamble, which possibly, they might end up losing the entire money.
Yes exactly, bonuses are the trap most casinos used to trap players because in some cases you will see a casino offering over 200% bonuses on deposits but if you check the wagering requirement you will see as high as 20x - 30x wagering time and this is something that is almost impossible to achieve and at that players are constantly losing the entire deposits and winning trying to meet the wager requirements for withdrawal. Because the casino knows that the average gambler is lazy to read the terms and conditions for the bonuses given, sometimes people will be eager and rush to make deposits, while what we know is that there are many complicated rules when claiming a bonus it will be difficult to reach a point when the stakes are high and it is difficult to gamblers withdraw their bonus money or winnings. So far what I see are bonuses that are hard to win too because of course the withdrawal requirements are quite high so it's difficult to achieve them and in the end the gambler's money runs out, that's how casinos work usually attract gamblers through bonuses
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June 05, 2023, 02:54:35 PM |
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And another thing I personally do is try as much as possible to avoid bonuses that require I achieve a certain hidden wagering requirement before I could make a withdrawal, no doubt some casinos are very dubious in their operations, they offer their users a big bonus and then hide the wagering requirement attached to the bonus, users start depositing in respect of claiming the bonus, only to discover that their funds are trapped and no way out except they gamble, which possibly, they might end up losing the entire money.
Yes exactly, bonuses are the trap most casinos used to trap players because in some cases you will see a casino offering over 200% bonuses on deposits but if you check the wagering requirement you will see as high as 20x - 30x wagering time and this is something that is almost impossible to achieve and at that players are constantly losing the entire deposits and winning trying to meet the wager requirements for withdrawal. Because the casino knows that the average gambler is lazy to read the terms and conditions for the bonuses given, sometimes people will be eager and rush to make deposits, while what we know is that there are many complicated rules when claiming a bonus it will be difficult to reach a point when the stakes are high and it is difficult to gamblers withdraw their bonus money or winnings. So far what I see are bonuses that are hard to win too because of course the withdrawal requirements are quite high so it's difficult to achieve them and in the end the gambler's money runs out, that's how casinos work usually attract gamblers through bonuses Wven with hard requirements. Casino always offer an option to forfeit bonus if the players don’t want to continue anymore on claiming it. I think those withdrawal wagering requirements should be look out most importantly because that’s the typical rules that lock the funds of players inside the casino. Actually, most of the casino is already lowering the wagering requirements for their bonus and some of them waiver the requirements at all because they are relying on the withdrawal wagering requirements to keep the player balance in the casino and to make sure that they will wager the bonus rewards.
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June 05, 2023, 03:07:14 PM |
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Because the casino knows that the average gambler is lazy to read the terms and conditions for the bonuses given, sometimes people will be eager and rush to make deposits, while what we know is that there are many complicated rules when claiming a bonus it will be difficult to reach a point when the stakes are high and it is difficult to gamblers withdraw their bonus money or winnings.
So far what I see are bonuses that are hard to win too because of course the withdrawal requirements are quite high so it's difficult to achieve them and in the end the gambler's money runs out, that's how casinos work usually attract gamblers through bonuses
there have been many cases like this, so that's for all gamblers, don't ever have too high expectations for bonuses that get for free on gambling sites, laziness will only have fatal consequences for everyone, therefore keep reading carefully about the TOS set by the gambling site, especially regarding bonuses and conditions for making withdrawals. Gambling sites have full rights over the sites they manage, so never underestimate the TOS, be careful, this is very important because it relates to your money.
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June 05, 2023, 03:58:36 PM |
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So it is very important for us gambling players that before we enter here we know the toss of a casino first, so that from the beginning we already know the wafering requirements. Because I remember before when I was a relatively new gambler, I was just exploring.
So, in my experience I deposited 50$, now when I saw that my money really came in, that's when I started gambling. And in less than 1 hour of my betting on a slot-games, I hit 55$ so, when I saw that, I thought about releasing the winnings I hit, just because the casino already has a wagering amount that is already followed I should be able to accumulate at least 100$ from my playing including winnings and losses.
Of course, since I'm a beginner, I couldn't do anything but follow their rules, so when I withdrew, I didn't withdraw 55$ but only 33$ because others lost in the slot games as well.
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June 05, 2023, 04:05:12 PM |
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One thing regarding the wagering requirements, is that most of us have fallen for not reading very high wagering requirements,in fact when I land on one that says 10x I already know that I will not get anything from there, because it is obvious I'm not going to get there, if nothing else, sometimes with 1x you can lose everything, now 10x no matter how much patience you have or something is achievable, but it has to be someone with a demonstration of Faith and a lot of Experience , in Addition to having a lot of Good luck , it's the only way I can see that things can happen, otherwise I don't think so, as I've seen 30x, 50x, 100x requirements, things that are not within my reach.
You were lucky to have detected that earlier and that is because of your prior knowledge of what the negative impact the wagering requirements are for the gambler against the casino and also failed to read the terms and conditions of the casino and to know what their wagering requirement will be, any wagering requirements that is above 1x then it a pilot that will fly the gambler to many lose eventually. Indeed, knowing the require wagering requirements gives you an idea that the goal is not achievable or the chance of losing your initial capital would be the end point of your gambling sessions, x1 is far different from x10 if you see the requirement like that it's better not to proceed. If you like to check out is always needed to note out that depositing small amount will help you to avoid having a big loss. If you failed to read the terms and conditions, consider your deposit as part of knowing the site and you can avoid to play back with that bad experienced that you got. And another thing I personally do is try as much as possible to avoid bonuses that require I achieve a certain hidden wagering requirement before I could make a withdrawal, no doubt some casino are very dubious in their operations, they offer their users a big bonus and then hide the wager requirement attached to the bonus, users start depositing in respect of claiming the bonus, only to discover that their funds are trapped and no way out except they gamble, which possibly, they might end up loosing the entire money. Casino uses bonus as a weapon to attract the gamblers to deposit at the casinos. Casino keep the high wagering requirement purposefully because they know that gamblers wont be able to fulfill the gambling requirements and therefore they will never withdraw the amount. Even though the gambling sites have given the bonues but they know that the gamblers will not be able to withdrawal them. This is indeed a win win situation for the gambling casino as they get the people money due to promotions and yet people end up getting nothing but losing money.
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June 05, 2023, 05:29:46 PM |
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Because the casino knows that the average gambler is lazy to read the terms and conditions for the bonuses given, sometimes people will be eager and rush to make deposits, while what we know is that there are many complicated rules when claiming a bonus it will be difficult to reach a point when the stakes are high and it is difficult to gamblers withdraw their bonus money or winnings.
So far what I see are bonuses that are hard to win too because of course the withdrawal requirements are quite high so it's difficult to achieve them and in the end the gambler's money runs out, that's how casinos work usually attract gamblers through bonuses
there have been many cases like this, so that's for all gamblers, don't ever have too high expectations for bonuses that get for free on gambling sites, laziness will only have fatal consequences for everyone, therefore keep reading carefully about the TOS set by the gambling site, especially regarding bonuses and conditions for making withdrawals. Gambling sites have full rights over the sites they manage, so never underestimate the TOS, be careful, this is very important because it relates to your money. Reading TOS in order to know the Rules in the casino is obviously quite important because it is with this that we can understand how the system works but sometimes things like this are always missed by many gamblers because they don't want to just keep reading long sheets but this is a big scourge for them. Not a few in this case they say they are deceived by what online casinos do even for large casinos but indeed in the end they also have to lose to the rules set because most of them they don't read in full about the existing TOS which makes their complaints futile in the end.
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June 05, 2023, 07:04:34 PM |
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So far what I see are bonuses that are hard to win too because of course the withdrawal requirements are quite high so it's difficult to achieve them and in the end the gambler's money runs out, that's how casinos work usually attract gamblers through bonuses
Yes there is high percentages in such bonuses just to attract the player and once they are tucked it becomes hard for them to pull out and even if they do, they will only be able to cash out little to nothing tangible to support their net deposits so at the end it becomes a win win for the casino. But I don't blame the casino but the player who failed to carefully studied to terms and services of the casino and the bonus requirement alongside the casino wagering requirement altogether.
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June 05, 2023, 08:04:31 PM |
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Because the casino knows that the average gambler is lazy to read the terms and conditions for the bonuses given, sometimes people will be eager and rush to make deposits, while what we know is that there are many complicated rules when claiming a bonus it will be difficult to reach a point when the stakes are high and it is difficult to gamblers withdraw their bonus money or winnings.
So far what I see are bonuses that are hard to win too because of course the withdrawal requirements are quite high so it's difficult to achieve them and in the end the gambler's money runs out, that's how casinos work usually attract gamblers through bonuses
there have been many cases like this, so that's for all gamblers, don't ever have too high expectations for bonuses that get for free on gambling sites, laziness will only have fatal consequences for everyone, therefore keep reading carefully about the TOS set by the gambling site, especially regarding bonuses and conditions for making withdrawals. Gambling sites have full rights over the sites they manage, so never underestimate the TOS, be careful, this is very important because it relates to your money. Reading TOS in order to know the Rules in the casino is obviously quite important because it is with this that we can understand how the system works but sometimes things like this are always missed by many gamblers because they don't want to just keep reading long sheets but this is a big scourge for them. Not a few in this case they say they are deceived by what online casinos do even for large casinos but indeed in the end they also have to lose to the rules set because most of them they don't read in full about the existing TOS which makes their complaints futile in the end. The terms of an online casino can be changed without informing there customers which is another way casinos use to deprive gamblers of there right. This had been happening for long that is why we need to be reading or going through the terms of service of many of these online casinos so that we can know the latest changes they have added if in case they have intensions to steal from us.
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June 05, 2023, 09:48:27 PM |
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That is why it is advisable for someone to read the terms and condition of consumer platform before joining the platform so that it rain the time of withdrawal who can be able to withdraw it without having a difficulties this has put many people into trouble because of not reading the instructions of that particular platform so I believe that is we have to understand you very well
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June 05, 2023, 11:02:24 PM |
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And another thing I personally do is try as much as possible to avoid bonuses that require I achieve a certain hidden wagering requirement before I could make a withdrawal, no doubt some casino are very dubious in their operations, they offer their users a big bonus and then hide the wager requirement attached to the bonus, users start depositing in respect of claiming the bonus, only to discover that their funds are trapped and no way out except they gamble, which possibly, they might end up loosing the entire money.
I also try to avoid deposit bonuses and even cancel the bonus after claiming them. I feel that the wagering requirement is too much for the claimed bonus. As if it was made to trap our funds in the casino forcing us to wager our money until it got depleted. Giving us 100% of our deposit funds but requiring us 4000% wagering seems unjust to me. I would rather have a normal session than undergo the process of grinding which might result in a loss just to withdraw my money.
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June 05, 2023, 11:02:40 PM |
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Because the casino knows that the average gambler is lazy to read the terms and conditions for the bonuses given, sometimes people will be eager and rush to make deposits, while what we know is that there are many complicated rules when claiming a bonus it will be difficult to reach a point when the stakes are high and it is difficult to gamblers withdraw their bonus money or winnings.
So far what I see are bonuses that are hard to win too because of course the withdrawal requirements are quite high so it's difficult to achieve them and in the end the gambler's money runs out, that's how casinos work usually attract gamblers through bonuses
there have been many cases like this, so that's for all gamblers, don't ever have too high expectations for bonuses that get for free on gambling sites, laziness will only have fatal consequences for everyone, therefore keep reading carefully about the TOS set by the gambling site, especially regarding bonuses and conditions for making withdrawals. Gambling sites have full rights over the sites they manage, so never underestimate the TOS, be careful, this is very important because it relates to your money. Reading TOS in order to know the Rules in the casino is obviously quite important because it is with this that we can understand how the system works but sometimes things like this are always missed by many gamblers because they don't want to just keep reading long sheets but this is a big scourge for them. Not a few in this case they say they are deceived by what online casinos do even for large casinos but indeed in the end they also have to lose to the rules set because most of them they don't read in full about the existing TOS which makes their complaints futile in the end. The terms of an online casino can be changed without informing there customers which is another way casinos use to deprive gamblers of there right. This had been happening for long that is why we need to be reading or going through the terms of service of many of these online casinos so that we can know the latest changes they have added if in case they have intensions to steal from us. I condemn the act of not informing your customers before changing times and the condition of a platform so any casino platform that is doing that it will make them to lose customers that patronizing them so if another person she will hear such a person will not come close to them again because of that particular problem so I believe so
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SmartGold01
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June 05, 2023, 11:17:56 PM |
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And another thing I personally do is try as much as possible to avoid bonuses that require I achieve a certain hidden wagering requirement before I could make a withdrawal, no doubt some casinos are very dubious in their operations, they offer their users a big bonus and then hide the wagering requirement attached to the bonus, users start depositing in respect of claiming the bonus, only to discover that their funds are trapped and no way out except they gamble, which possibly, they might end up losing the entire money.
Yes exactly, bonuses are the trap most casinos used to trap players because in some cases you will see a casino offering over 200% bonuses on deposits but if you check the wagering requirement you will see as high as 20x - 30x wagering time and this is something that is almost impossible to achieve and at that players are constantly losing the entire deposits and winning trying to meet the wager requirements for withdrawal. This is common to those that are being enticed by bonuses, although I haven't that routed into gambling but if I were those people that regularly gambles I wouldn't associate myself with a casino without me reading their terms and condition before making deposits. 50 percent wager is much to make withdrawal why not 2x or even 5x, technically such casino or gambling site have intention to scam their clients because immediately someone deposited into it it could be hard for withdrawal without getting to the required limits.
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June 06, 2023, 01:53:00 AM |
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And another thing I personally do is try as much as possible to avoid bonuses that require I achieve a certain hidden wagering requirement before I could make a withdrawal, no doubt some casino are very dubious in their operations, they offer their users a big bonus and then hide the wager requirement attached to the bonus, users start depositing in respect of claiming the bonus, only to discover that their funds are trapped and no way out except they gamble, which possibly, they might end up loosing the entire money.
I also try to avoid deposit bonuses and even cancel the bonus after claiming them. I feel that the wagering requirement is too much for the claimed bonus. As if it was made to trap our funds in the casino forcing us to wager our money until it got depleted. Giving us 100% of our deposit funds but requiring us 4000% wagering seems unjust to me. I would rather have a normal session than undergo the process of grinding which might result in a loss just to withdraw my money. I am the same, I like the idea of a bonus but at the same time when I look at the waging requirements I know that I will need to gamble way more than what I am used to just to have a chance of fulfilling them, and when you begin to think about how you are going to fulfill a bonus instead of the entertainment you are supposed to be having, then you know there is something wrong with your approach towards gambling. Still it is not as if casinos have too much of a choice, as they need to protect themselves from cheaters which may use several accounts in order to claim those bonuses.
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June 06, 2023, 05:23:29 AM |
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So it is very important for us gambling players that before we enter here we know the toss of a casino first, so that from the beginning we already know the wafering requirements. Because I remember before when I was a relatively new gambler, I was just exploring.
So, in my experience I deposited 50$, now when I saw that my money really came in, that's when I started gambling. And in less than 1 hour of my betting on a slot-games, I hit 55$ so, when I saw that, I thought about releasing the winnings I hit, just because the casino already has a wagering amount that is already followed I should be able to accumulate at least 100$ from my playing including winnings and losses.
Of course, since I'm a beginner, I couldn't do anything but follow their rules, so when I withdrew, I didn't withdraw 55$ but only 33$ because others lost in the slot games as well.
That is not really a lot, a $100 wagering requirement for a deposit of $50 means just a 2x wagering requirement which is easily reachable, I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't even be able to withdraw that $33 if the wagering requirement was 10x or something in which case, you would need to have wagered a total amount of $500 to be able to withdraw something back after your deposit. These high requirements are the reason why a lot of people lose their initial bankrolls to the casinos because just like you, everyone will surely get some big win in the process but only because the wagering requirement is not met, they can't withdraw it and they keep playing until they lose everything at the end, and as they say, the house always wins.
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June 06, 2023, 06:23:00 AM |
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So it is very important for us gambling players that before we enter here we know the toss of a casino first, so that from the beginning we already know the wafering requirements. Because I remember before when I was a relatively new gambler, I was just exploring.
So, in my experience I deposited 50$, now when I saw that my money really came in, that's when I started gambling. And in less than 1 hour of my betting on a slot-games, I hit 55$ so, when I saw that, I thought about releasing the winnings I hit, just because the casino already has a wagering amount that is already followed I should be able to accumulate at least 100$ from my playing including winnings and losses.
Of course, since I'm a beginner, I couldn't do anything but follow their rules, so when I withdrew, I didn't withdraw 55$ but only 33$ because others lost in the slot games as well.
That is not really a lot, a $100 wagering requirement for a deposit of $50 means just a 2x wagering requirement which is easily reachable, I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't even be able to withdraw that $33 if the wagering requirement was 10x or something in which case, you would need to have wagered a total amount of $500 to be able to withdraw something back after your deposit. These high requirements are the reason why a lot of people lose their initial bankrolls to the casinos because just like you, everyone will surely get some big win in the process but only because the wagering requirement is not met, they can't withdraw it and they keep playing until they lose everything at the end, and as they say, the house always wins. These requirements on the part of the casino as a whole can be understood, although if the excess of the allowed amount of funds from winnings to withdraw money from the casino is tenfold, this is of course already a lot and it is almost impossible for players to reach a tenfold increase with such a small amount. Although such casinos can have quite a lot of customers, they are especially accustomed to such rules. But if we are talking about small excesses, I think this is justified and this requirement from the side of the casino is just because if the casino did not set such requirements, it would immediately go bankrupt. And the players do not need it at all. And the casino, obviously, too. And so with a certain level of excess of the initial bet, it becomes even more interesting to play. I think so.
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That is why it is advisable for someone to read the terms and condition of consumer platform before joining the platform so that it rain the time of withdrawal who can be able to withdraw it without having a difficulties this has put many people into trouble because of not reading the instructions of that particular platform so I believe that is we have to understand you very well
One should always read the terms and conditions of any services he uses online, especially if they are for free (because no one gives away anything). But in the case of casinos this is even more true, and there are a few critical points one should inform himself before depositing large amounts of money, like if the jurisdiction he's playing in is forbidden or not, if KYC is mandatory or not, if the use of VPN is allowed (otherwise you can lose your money for the simple fact that you used a virtual private network and nothing more), and yes, the wagering requirements. Otherwise, you won't be able to do anything but expose yourself to a large number of possible eventualities. The same way one should do his own research before investing money somewhere, he should read the T&Cs before gambling money somewhere else.
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