Wagering requirements for withdraw

[GxSTxV]

I have recently signed up in a new casino and I'm receiving some bonuses with the wagering requirements we are discussing in this thread. The thing is that I have always thought that very high wagering requirements are abusive, but taking into account that the bonuses I'm receiving aren't linked to any deposit I make, I suppose that it is fair for that "free money" to be used as "test coins" and only be able to withdraw for real money after a very lucky strike. In the meantime, the player gets fun and used to the casino at the same time.

Of course, these bonuses are meant to be the hook for many gamblers, but I don't think this is the same case as other bonuses that depend on the deposited amount of money or, of course, abusive wagering requirements for not bonuses but simple deposits.

Well after all we only blame ourselves if it happened and made a deposit in a casino that has abusive and unrealistic rules ( requirements before withdrawing ), the meaning of my topic is to let people notice such requirements and always read the TOS page before using any kind of casinos and if they don’t mention anything about such requirements you better ask their support or you will end up playing and gambling your winnings or even when you try to run away with smallest losses possible.
For bonus deposit requirements the casino has the right to go for x40 wagering or more because obviously it’s a free money shouldn’t be easy to claim for everyone.

[Doan9269]

I have recently signed up in a new casino and I'm receiving some bonuses with the wagering requirements we are discussing in this thread. The thing is that I have always thought that very high wagering requirements are abusive, but taking into account that the bonuses I'm receiving aren't linked to any deposit I make, I suppose that it is fair for that "free money" to be used as "test coins" and only be able to withdraw for real money after a very lucky strike. In the meantime, the player gets fun and used to the casino at the same time.

In most cases, you can't expect the casinos not to be that wise enough that you signed up and received their bonus and uses that same bonus to gamble and win and expect them to allow tou withdraw the whole money, things aren't done that way and they may not agree to that terms, you must also show commitment in making at aleast some deposit to use for gambling before making withdrawal, some casinos would have alert you on this before time while some will only tell you when you needed their attention to perform some functions from which are being denied.

[Porfirii]

I have recently signed up in a new casino and I'm receiving some bonuses with the wagering requirements we are discussing in this thread. The thing is that I have always thought that very high wagering requirements are abusive, but taking into account that the bonuses I'm receiving aren't linked to any deposit I make, I suppose that it is fair for that "free money" to be used as "test coins" and only be able to withdraw for real money after a very lucky strike. In the meantime, the player gets fun and used to the casino at the same time.

Of course, these bonuses are meant to be the hook for many gamblers, but I don't think this is the same case as other bonuses that depend on the deposited amount of money or, of course, abusive wagering requirements for not bonuses but simple deposits.

Well after all we only blame ourselves if it happened and made a deposit in a casino that has abusive and unrealistic rules ( requirements before withdrawing ), the meaning of my topic is to let people notice such requirements and always read the TOS page before using any kind of casinos and if they don’t mention anything about such requirements you better ask their support or you will end up playing and gambling your winnings or even when you try to run away with smallest losses possible.
For bonus deposit requirements the casino has the right to go for x40 wagering or more because obviously it’s a free money shouldn’t be easy to claim for everyone.

Yes, that's the point! One should always make informed decisions, but most beginner people is too lazy to read the fine print and that's when the unpleasant surprises come, so thank you for the awareness, in fact, after suffering one yourself.

It's the boring, but necessary part, when you want to have fun in these sites. BTW, even in the case you talked with support, I would avoid casinos that have no clear TOS, among other things, because they can change the rules whenever they want, regardless of what they said.

[paxmao]

I have recently signed up in a new casino and I'm receiving some bonuses with the wagering requirements we are discussing in this thread. The thing is that I have always thought that very high wagering requirements are abusive, but taking into account that the bonuses I'm receiving aren't linked to any deposit I make, I suppose that it is fair for that "free money" to be used as "test coins" and only be able to withdraw for real money after a very lucky strike. In the meantime, the player gets fun and used to the casino at the same time.

Of course, these bonuses are meant to be the hook for many gamblers, but I don't think this is the same case as other bonuses that depend on the deposited amount of money or, of course, abusive wagering requirements for not bonuses but simple deposits.

I would say that it is essential to familiarize yourself with the site's terms and conditions, withdrawal policies, wagering requirements, and any other relevant information that may impact your ability to get the funds you've earned. Just do it right and take time to read and understand the site's user agreement, so people can make an informed decision and assess whether the platform meets your expectations and aligns well with them.

[Eternad]

I have recently signed up in a new casino and I'm receiving some bonuses with the wagering requirements we are discussing in this thread. The thing is that I have always thought that very high wagering requirements are abusive, but taking into account that the bonuses I'm receiving aren't linked to any deposit I make, I suppose that it is fair for that "free money" to be used as "test coins" and only be able to withdraw for real money after a very lucky strike. In the meantime, the player gets fun and used to the casino at the same time.

Of course, these bonuses are meant to be the hook for many gamblers, but I don't think this is the same case as other bonuses that depend on the deposited amount of money or, of course, abusive wagering requirements for not bonuses but simple deposits.

I would say that it is essential to familiarize yourself with the site's terms and conditions, withdrawal policies, wagering requirements, and any other relevant information that may impact your ability to get the funds you've earned. Just do it right and take time to read and understand the site's user agreement, so people can make an informed decision and assess whether the platform meets your expectations and aligns well with them.

Fair point. Casino nowadays especially the new one is already modifying their ToS to compensate with their marketing like what the OP experience. Casino offer a bonus without wagering requirements so that players believe that this is a free money while the ToS indicates the wagering requirements is transfer to the deposit which is equivalent too on bonus that have a wagering requirements.

ToS is very tricky. Players should be vigilant on checking first the rules and do a screenshot as much as possible so that they can have proof in case casino alter some of their policy for their own advantage.

[LUCKMCFLY]

But the impact on the casinos would not be as great if more people had read the terms before withdrawing their money because the people who had read it would have won the casino. Those who read that will also blame the gambler, especially if the casino is a trusted casino that has been operating for years and has a good reputation. Every casino will have withdrawal requirements for bets so gamblers should be aware of them and read the requirements before betting. This is an important thing that gamblers must do so that they don't feel cheated by the casino. And don't try to take bonuses that have high wagering requirements.

reading the TOS before playing is a basic thing that everyone must do when they want to start gambling and make a deposit on a gambling site because gambling sites that hold events or bonuses must have a surefire way to prevent potential new players trying to manipulate the bonuses they give. I also previously said that there are many choices of gambling sites that you can try, as long as we remain critical and careful, it is unlikely that we will be deceived by gambling sites.

Of course, the trick for this here is to read everything, the TOS, but let's be clear, sometimes because we are quite excited, we don't care about anything but starting to play, and because of those emotions it makes us fall into errors that we don't They are not desired, the biggest problem appears when we make mistakes that prevent us from withdrawing our earnings , I think that is what bothers us the most, I say this because it has happened to me and of course that is where it is Understandable You must read so as not to go through bad times.

I have recently signed up in a new casino and I'm receiving some bonuses with the wagering requirements we are discussing in this thread. The thing is that I have always thought that very high wagering requirements are abusive, but taking into account that the bonuses I'm receiving aren't linked to any deposit I make, I suppose that it is fair for that "free money" to be used as "test coins" and only be able to withdraw for real money after a very lucky strike. In the meantime, the player gets fun and used to the casino at the same time.

Of course, these bonuses are meant to be the hook for many gamblers, but I don't think this is the same case as other bonuses that depend on the deposited amount of money or, of course, abusive wagering requirements for not bonuses but simple deposits.

I would say that it is essential to familiarize yourself with the site's terms and conditions, withdrawal policies, wagering requirements, and any other relevant information that may impact your ability to get the funds you've earned. Just do it right and take time to read and understand the site's user agreement, so people can make an informed decision and assess whether the platform meets your expectations and aligns well with them.

Fair point. Casino nowadays especially the new one is already modifying their ToS to compensate with their marketing like what the OP experience. Casino offer a bonus without wagering requirements so that players believe that this is a free money while the ToS indicates the wagering requirements is transfer to the deposit which is equivalent too on bonus that have a wagering requirements.

ToS is very tricky. Players should be vigilant on checking first the rules and do a screenshot as much as possible so that they can have proof in case casino alter some of their policy for their own advantage.

These kinds of things are very difficult for me to decipher, they don't say they have a wagering requirement, but are the wagering requirements intrinsically imposed on mimes? that is something really hidden and difficult for any player, have the experience that was had, I think that this could be considered as if it were cheating, but things here are seen in different ways, it may be that some are considered something normal, but I don't see it that way , I see a casino like that and I don't play, I would try to get back what I deposited , but it would be a big bother.

[RILWAN]

To avoid posible use of gambling platforms as means to launder money by simoly depositing and withdrawing and this have lead gambling sites to come up with at least a 1x wager requirement on all deposits. This law is included in all T&Cs&C of the casino and if you care to read through it you will discover them.

[Fredomago]

I have recently signed up in a new casino and I'm receiving some bonuses with the wagering requirements we are discussing in this thread. The thing is that I have always thought that very high wagering requirements are abusive, but taking into account that the bonuses I'm receiving aren't linked to any deposit I make, I suppose that it is fair for that "free money" to be used as "test coins" and only be able to withdraw for real money after a very lucky strike. In the meantime, the player gets fun and used to the casino at the same time.

Of course, these bonuses are meant to be the hook for many gamblers, but I don't think this is the same case as other bonuses that depend on the deposited amount of money or, of course, abusive wagering requirements for not bonuses but simple deposits.

I would say that it is essential to familiarize yourself with the site's terms and conditions, withdrawal policies, wagering requirements, and any other relevant information that may impact your ability to get the funds you've earned. Just do it right and take time to read and understand the site's user agreement, so people can make an informed decision and assess whether the platform meets your expectations and aligns well with them.

Fair point. Casino nowadays especially the new one is already modifying their ToS to compensate with their marketing like what the OP experience. Casino offer a bonus without wagering requirements so that players believe that this is a free money while the ToS indicates the wagering requirements is transfer to the deposit which is equivalent too on bonus that have a wagering requirements.

ToS is very tricky. Players should be vigilant on checking first the rules and do a screenshot as much as possible so that they can have proof in case casino alter some of their policy for their own advantage.

That kind of tricky part of the promotions needs to be confirm when reading the ToS' if you take time understanding what the rule was then you can justify your case if ever you got some issue against the house, screenshot may help in proving your case and for sure if you clearly understand what's the rules was then the house can't do anything but to follow unless the site are intended to scam the gamblers, they can change the ToS without any prior notice.

[Viscore]

To avoid posible use of gambling platforms as means to launder money by simoly depositing and withdrawing and this have lead gambling sites to come up with at least a 1x wager requirement on all deposits. This law is included in all T&Cs&C of the casino and if you care to read through it you will discover them.

1x is fair, but OP's concern is that the gambling site he used requires him to make a 5x wager of his money. I agree that this is a significant requirement, and it seems like the site wants their gamblers to wager more, thereby decreasing their chances of winning. Just imagine being lucky and satisfied with your winnings, but you haven't met the requirement yet. Then, with one wrong bet, you could lose all your money. That would certainly be disappointing for any gambler.

[Reatim]

But the impact on the casinos would not be as great if more people had read the terms before withdrawing their money because the people who had read it would have won the casino. Those who read that will also blame the gambler, especially if the casino is a trusted casino that has been operating for years and has a good reputation. Every casino will have withdrawal requirements for bets so gamblers should be aware of them and read the requirements before betting. This is an important thing that gamblers must do so that they don't feel cheated by the casino. And don't try to take bonuses that have high wagering requirements.

reading the TOS before playing is a basic thing that everyone must do when they want to start gambling and make a deposit on a gambling site because gambling sites that hold events or bonuses must have a surefire way to prevent potential new players trying to manipulate the bonuses they give. I also previously said that there are many choices of gambling sites that you can try, as long as we remain critical and careful, it is unlikely that we will be deceived by gambling sites.

Of course, the trick for this here is to read everything, the TOS, but let's be clear, sometimes because we are quite excited, we don't care about anything but starting to play, and because of those emotions it makes us fall into errors that we don't They are not desired, the biggest problem appears when we make mistakes that prevent us from withdrawing our earnings , I think that is what bothers us the most, I say this because it has happened to me and of course that is where it is Understandable You must read so as not to go through bad times.

Not counting those site that changes their Rules without formal notice that sometimes affect those winners that needs to claim their money and when they check the TOS ? there it was changed though surely this will damage their reputation but some of them can risk their reputation than Paying big amount.
but Lucky that i Keep screen shot of the TOS of each site that I wanted to play so if things like cheating happened at least I have proofs .

[dezoel]

To avoid posible use of gambling platforms as means to launder money by simoly depositing and withdrawing and this have lead gambling sites to come up with at least a 1x wager requirement on all deposits. This law is included in all T&Cs&C of the casino and if you care to read through it you will discover them.

1x is fair, but OP's concern is that the gambling site he used requires him to make a 5x wager of his money. I agree that this is a significant requirement, and it seems like the site wants their gamblers to wager more, thereby decreasing their chances of winning. Just imagine being lucky and satisfied with your winnings, but you haven't met the requirement yet. Then, with one wrong bet, you could lose all your money. That would certainly be disappointing for any gambler.

A casino that has a very high wagering requirement only for the deposit definitely wants its gamblers to lose their money before they can request a withdrawal because if that wasn't their purpose, they would simply keep it to 1x because, after all, it is their own money if they are giving a bonus on top of it, they can ask for any amount of wagering requirement for that and no one would have an issue.

Most people probably stop gambling at such casinos after they make their first deposit and see the wagering requirement because it makes no sense to just deposit your money and lose it only by trying to complete the wagering requirements so that you can withdraw your own money.

[Blitzboy]

I have recently signed up in a new casino and I'm receiving some bonuses with the wagering requirements we are discussing in this thread. The thing is that I have always thought that very high wagering requirements are abusive, but taking into account that the bonuses I'm receiving aren't linked to any deposit I make, I suppose that it is fair for that "free money" to be used as "test coins" and only be able to withdraw for real money after a very lucky strike. In the meantime, the player gets fun and used to the casino at the same time.

Of course, these bonuses are meant to be the hook for many gamblers, but I don't think this is the same case as other bonuses that depend on the deposited amount of money or, of course, abusive wagering requirements for not bonuses but simple deposits.

I would say that it is essential to familiarize yourself with the site's terms and conditions, withdrawal policies, wagering requirements, and any other relevant information that may impact your ability to get the funds you've earned. Just do it right and take time to read and understand the site's user agreement, so people can make an informed decision and assess whether the platform meets your expectations and aligns well with them.

You're using the bonus as a learning tool, not as a source of income. But remember, the house always has the edge. It's essential to stay vigilant, not only of the wagering requirements but also of the fairness of the games you're playing. Most importantly, your notion of familiarizing yourself with the terms and conditions is an astute observation. As users, it's our due diligence to comprehend and abide by these rules. The repercussions of ignoring these regulations can be severe. For instance, unfulfilled wagering requirements may lead to the voiding of your earnings or worse, account suspension. In essence, treat the terms and conditions as your Bible, and you might just find your proverbial promised land.

[Asuspawer09]

I recently discovered that I signed up for a casino without thoroughly reading its terms and conditions agreement. But of course this was entirely my fault even that I am still bothered by the withdrawal requirements on deposits. It is well known that deposit bonuses or any bonus offered by a casino will have wagering requirements that goes to x50 or more. What truly concerns me is the 5X wagering requirement on normal deposits without any bonus in order to withdraw the initial deposit or winnings.
To clarify things better here is an example : if you were to deposit $1000 and win $200 in your first few games then you wouldnt be able to withdraw your winnings or even your deposits without wagering at least $5000. This means that 80% of the time, you would lose your money before reaching the required amount.
In my opinion this term is unfair. I am not attacking any specific casino, but I do believe that if users were aware of these requirements they would be less likely to deposit their money in such casinos since there are other casinos without such stringent requirements.

That seems to be a scam casino, I mean I've tried a lot of gambling websites and casinos and I've never encountered something like it, I think this is a scam casino, its obviously a big red flag you should be able to withdraw your deposit and your winnings anytime you wanted, in my experience you just need to deposit probably 10-20$ then you could start playing already then it would just depend on your earnings.

I mean yes you didn't read the policy, regulations, etc. but this wasn't a fair thing, in my opinion, 5x was just ridiculous, something is going on might be some kind of pyramid scheme they just didn't want you to get your money out and surely your going to lose all of your money in playing.

I guess just pick a trusted gambling website next time I mean we have plenty of trusted gambling websites here in the forum, plus you could easily report if you encounter problem since they are active here in the forum on the gambling seciton.

[noormcs5]

Fair point. Casino nowadays especially the new one is already modifying their ToS to compensate with their marketing like what the OP experience. Casino offer a bonus without wagering requirements so that players believe that this is a free money while the ToS indicates the wagering requirements is transfer to the deposit which is equivalent too on bonus that have a wagering requirements.

ToS is very tricky. Players should be vigilant on checking first the rules and do a screenshot as much as possible so that they can have proof in case casino alter some of their policy for their own advantage.

If any casino publish that they are offering bonus with no wagering requirements but when you try to claim the money, they ask you to check the terms of service, where it is mentioned that you need to fulfill the wagering requirements in order to withdraw, if this is the case, you should immediately stop playing at that casino and leave that casino because they do not keep their works and are scammers.

If they do this purposefully, you can understand they are not honest and it would be not safe playing at such casino. Leave those ones as there are still many good casino out there who do not do these cheap acts.

[panjul07]

That seems to be a scam casino, I mean I've tried a lot of gambling websites and casinos and I've never encountered something like it, I think this is a scam casino, its obviously a big red flag you should be able to withdraw your deposit and your winnings anytime you wanted, in my experience you just need to deposit probably 10-20$ then you could start playing already then it would just depend on your earnings.

I mean yes you didn't read the policy, regulations, etc. but this wasn't a fair thing, in my opinion, 5x was just ridiculous, something is going on might be some kind of pyramid scheme they just didn't want you to get your money out and surely your going to lose all of your money in playing.

I guess just pick a trusted gambling website next time I mean we have plenty of trusted gambling websites here in the forum, plus you could easily report if you encounter problem since they are active here in the forum on the gambling seciton.

It is not scam as long as the terms is mentioned clearly in the ToS page of the casino, yes 5x of the deposit amount without bonus is insane but once you created an account in the casino means that you are agreeing with all terms.
All casinos reserve the right to have their own terms, so we as players should read all the terms and perhaps making a screenshot or an archive of the ToS before making our first deposit.
Although the casino also reserve the right to change their terms anytime but if the change is just to refuse withdrawal or to harm players in general then we can say it is a scam attempt.

[markk1]

Before withdrawing funds, I consider x1 wagering of the deposit to be adequate. Sometimes casinos make up to x5 wagering of the deposit, which is a lot and quite negative for the players.
Now there are a lot of casinos that make sticky bonuses and maximum withdrawal deposit bonuses. Therefore, be careful before making a deposit and taking a bonus.

[harizen]

Now there are a lot of casinos that make sticky bonuses and maximum withdrawal deposit bonuses. Therefore, be careful before making a deposit and taking a bonus.

Isn't that just a usual thing already?

To say be careful is like you considered that as a trap. Not exactly though.

It's just common to see decent deposit bonuses or promotions where the required turnover or wagering requirement is not that difficult to achieved although in return, you can only withdraw a maximum required amount.

At most cases, the application for that is not automatic therefore users are free to ignore that bonus and instead, use the nornal deposit so they can withdraw anytime if target profits or being satisfied have been reach.

[Fredomago]

Now there are a lot of casinos that make sticky bonuses and maximum withdrawal deposit bonuses. Therefore, be careful before making a deposit and taking a bonus.

Isn't that just a usual thing already?

To say be careful is like you considered that as a trap. Not exactly though.

It's just common to see decent deposit bonuses or promotions where the required turnover or wagering requirement is not that difficult to achieved although in return, you can only withdraw a maximum required amount.

At most cases, the application for that is not automatic therefore users are free to ignore that bonus and instead, use the nornal deposit so they can withdraw anytime if target profits or being satisfied have been reach.

A simple practice if you don't want to get stuck when trying to withdraw your money, you always have the option to ignore those offers and just do the usual gambling practices, deposit and withdraw when you feel that you need to get your money out from the house. Wagering requirements when you activated the promotional offers most of the time is the cause of issues with your deposit funds, without reading the rules and regualtions regarding to that bonuses.

You will find yourself stuck with your money, and most of the time, instead of enjoying the perks you ended up losing everything when trying to wager the amount.

[Hamphser]

Now there are a lot of casinos that make sticky bonuses and maximum withdrawal deposit bonuses. Therefore, be careful before making a deposit and taking a bonus.

Isn't that just a usual thing already?

To say be careful is like you considered that as a trap. Not exactly though.

It's just common to see decent deposit bonuses or promotions where the required turnover or wagering requirement is not that difficult to achieved although in return, you can only withdraw a maximum required amount.

At most cases, the application for that is not automatic therefore users are free to ignore that bonus and instead, use the nornal deposit so they can withdraw anytime if target profits or being satisfied have been reach.

A simple practice if you don't want to get stuck when trying to withdraw your money, you always have the option to ignore those offers and just do the usual gambling practices, deposit and withdraw when you feel that you need to get your money out from the house. Wagering requirements when you activated the promotional offers most of the time is the cause of issues with your deposit funds, without reading the rules and regualtions regarding to that bonuses.

You will find yourself stuck with your money, and most of the time, instead of enjoying the perks you ended up losing everything when trying to wager the amount.

Even on simply having that deposit would already be requiring some wagering requirement, how much more on deposit bonuses or some sort of promotions or add ups? They cant really just give out bonuses without those terms which it is really that understandable on this way on which it would really be that just right that they would be giving out those kind of terms considering that it is really that a business
and they cant really just give out any bonuses without having those criteria before you could be able to pull it out.

People should really be wary about these terms because you would really be finding out yourself on having those complaints but ending up on making yourself look like a fool yet this had been the
typical stuff or requirement before you could be able to pull out whether your deposit or deposit+bonus. There's always those wagering or roll over which it is really
just that in default.

[serjent05]

Even on simply having that deposit would already be requiring some wagering requirement, how much more on deposit bonuses or some sort of promotions or add ups? They cant really just give out bonuses without those terms which it is really that understandable on this way on which it would really be that just right that they would be giving out those kind of terms considering that it is really that a business
and they cant really just give out any bonuses without having those criteria before you could be able to pull it out.

The casino will end up in bankruptcy if they won't require any wagering on bonus deposits.  People will just exploit it by depositing and withdrawing after the moment they claim the bonus.  Just imagine, if a casino have 35k players and all of them deposit $100  each and claim 100% deposit bonus and withdraw the fund since there is no requirement in order to withdraw the bonus, the casino will suffer $3.5m lost in an insatnt.

People should really be wary about these terms because you would really be finding out yourself on having those complaints but ending up on making yourself look like a fool yet this had been the
typical stuff or requirement before you could be able to pull out whether your deposit or deposit+bonus. There's always those wagering or roll over which it is really
just that in default.

Indeed players should be informed about these things in order for them to not get confused and lost money. We should know the requirements and other details of every promos and bonuses a casino implement in order to avoid confusion and misunderstanding.