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August 06, 2023, 03:03:24 PM
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Jake Paul is back he won via unanimous decision against Nate Diaz as expected, it's an easy for Jake Paul who shows his boxing experience to beat the hesitant and slow Diaz.

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Jake Paul proving his critics yet again that he is the real deal and no pushover though not just there for the real shot as he keeps ranting on his social media platforms trying to get a fight with the big names like the likes of Mike Tyson(retired).

Otherwise great fight from Jake with a knockdown to Diaz , am guessing he was out of his element which happens to be UFC and he should stick to that Roll Eyes

Hmm, I don't think JP proved anything. He beat a guy on the scorecard that is from another sport and moved 2 weight classes up to get a pay day, that's it.
Did you see the 2 bodies, JP is much bigger, that's a huge advantage in boxing. In MMA Diaz would kill him in 5 minutes.

In boxing JP didn't know him out in 30 minutes, Diaz was only down once.
In my opinion, if you take all these things in account, Diaz looked better than JP. He performed much better than most people expected him to. And even though he didn't really hit hard punches, JP looked pretty beat at the end.

Well, at least ND got paid, that was his main game plan anyway.  Grin

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August 06, 2023, 03:52:03 PM
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Hmm, I don't think JP proved anything. He beat a guy on the scorecard that is from another sport and moved 2 weight classes up to get a pay day, that's it.
Did you see the 2 bodies, JP is much bigger, that's a huge advantage in boxing. In MMA Diaz would kill him in 5 minutes.

In boxing JP didn't know him out in 30 minutes, Diaz was only down once.
In my opinion, if you take all these things in account, Diaz looked better than JP. He performed much better than most people expected him to. And even though he didn't really hit hard punches, JP looked pretty beat at the end.

Well, at least ND got paid, that was his main game plan anyway.  Grin


Exactly, I don't understand why a lot of people think that Jake Paul is a great boxer. He got a good record, but all against people from other sports (mainly UFC); the one real boxer he faced (Tommy Fury), he lost against lol. In the end it is all the money, this fight was not a real boxing fight in my eyes but this is a trend these days that will keep going on as people seem interested in it.



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August 06, 2023, 04:04:25 PM
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I watched the highlights very late because there was no electricity in my city, but from what I could see of the highlights, it was a fight in which the two fighters were always grabbing each other, and it seemed to me that Nate Diaz was going to go after the Jake Paul with the intention of catching Jake Paul instead of keeping his distance like in normal boxing, because of that it seemed to me that it was a very boring fight and by doing that he just put Jake Paul as a good boxer, because during the fight Jake Paul was fighting in a way without catching the opponent, in my opinion although I only saw the highlights videos

but even so I see Jake Paul having come out of this fight with a deserved victory and if he continues like this then he can certainly still beat other strong boxers, but the question will be if he and his team will challenge the good boxers and take the risk of Jake Paul losing by a knockout and in the first rounds of the fight or Jake Paul and his team will be chasing fighters who are not at the top and who aren't very strong because with that the real chances of Jake Paul winning will be very high and he won't he will run great risks of losing by knockout and thereby ruining his reputation

because in my opinion a loss of Jake Paul by knockout in the first rounds would spoil his reputation and make future fights unfeasible, that would not be good in financial terms, we will see what Jake Paul's next fight will be, if he will choose a strong opponent or a bit strong opponent as he has chosen, I laughed with a comment from someone on youtube because he said that Jake Paul only beats old and retired people, but for me some people are underestimating Jake Paul and don't want to see that he is strong and wins on merit

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August 06, 2023, 04:29:21 PM
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I watched the fight last night and I thought Nate easily could have been given the win at certain points.  I missed some of the earlier rounds but he did more then a decent performance and defense during the fight.   Somebody I was watching with has trained as a boxer and done some fights non professionally and said Jake Paul had the win before the end for more consistent performance but to me it was a close thing.  I believe Jake Paul loses the MMA rematch personally his advantage will be gone when not on home tough as it were Smiley

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August 06, 2023, 04:37:35 PM
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Hmm, I don't think JP proved anything. He beat a guy on the scorecard that is from another sport and moved 2 weight classes up to get a pay day, that's it.
Did you see the 2 bodies, JP is much bigger, that's a huge advantage in boxing. In MMA Diaz would kill him in 5 minutes.

In boxing JP didn't know him out in 30 minutes, Diaz was only down once.
In my opinion, if you take all these things in account, Diaz looked better than JP. He performed much better than most people expected him to. And even though he didn't really hit hard punches, JP looked pretty beat at the end.

Well, at least ND got paid, that was his main game plan anyway.  Grin


Exactly, I don't understand why a lot of people think that Jake Paul is a great boxer. He got a good record, but all against people from other sports (mainly UFC); the one real boxer he faced (Tommy Fury), he lost against lol. In the end it is all the money, this fight was not a real boxing fight in my eyes but this is a trend these days that will keep going on as people seem interested in it.

During Nate's prime days, he and his brothers claimed to be trained in boxing but it somehow shows it's not true after this fight. It was not pleasant to watch there is no show of footwork or combos. I think Rogan overhyped Nate. Although I'm betting for JP to win, I'm still expecting Nate to show dodging and throw technical counters. But it's all just slugging, the only I could credit is that he has a hard chin to keep charging despite knowing he'd be battered again.


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August 06, 2023, 04:38:30 PM
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Hmm, I don't think JP proved anything. He beat a guy on the scorecard that is from another sport and moved 2 weight classes up to get a pay day, that's it.
Did you see the 2 bodies, JP is much bigger, that's a huge advantage in boxing. In MMA Diaz would kill him in 5 minutes.

In boxing JP didn't know him out in 30 minutes, Diaz was only down once.
In my opinion, if you take all these things in account, Diaz looked better than JP. He performed much better than most people expected him to. And even though he didn't really hit hard punches, JP looked pretty beat at the end.

Well, at least ND got paid, that was his main game plan anyway.  Grin


Exactly, I don't understand why a lot of people think that Jake Paul is a great boxer. He got a good record, but all against people from other sports (mainly UFC); the one real boxer he faced (Tommy Fury), he lost against lol. In the end it is all the money, this fight was not a real boxing fight in my eyes but this is a trend these days that will keep going on as people seem interested in it.

I actually agree with both of you. So far what we have seen from Jake Paul, we cannot declare that he is a good fighter. I know he is working hard and I know that one day he desires to be a good boxer. But it is not going to be done by beating old dudes. And of course it has to be done under some certain rules. One guy just cannot be lower in weight and the other looking like a balloon.

But at the same time, I will give this to Jake Paul, he does know how to punch. And again these fights are not going to bring him the popularity that he actually wants in my opinion.

Can remember the Adin Ross podcast? Where Andrew Tate and Jake Paul were talking about fighting? I think that is going to be the money fight for Jake Paul. That is going to be the fight that almost everybody is going to want to watch.

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That fight was pretty much exactly what I thought it was going to be. Nate Diaz is a pretty terrible boxer and that was very clear after the first round. The only thing that really surprised me about the fight was that Jake Paul wasn’t able to cut Nate Diaz. I thought for sure that there would be lots of blood. I guess now we wait for Nate to get his revenge in MMA with a quick chokehold.

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Diaz looked really sloppy and extremely slow and yet managed to win a few rounds on the scorecards. Jake Paul only proved how mediocre he really is. After almost 4 years of warm up fights it’s time for him to step up his level of competition. He couldn’t even beat Tommy Fury who isn’t a serious boxer so I am not sure what he can accomplish. Perhaps switching to MMA is how he keeps the cash cow going. I’m sure he’ll follow the same blueprint of only fighting washed up old men from lower weight classes.

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That fight was pretty much exactly what I thought it was going to be. Nate Diaz is a pretty terrible boxer and that was very clear after the first round. The only thing that really surprised me about the fight was that Jake Paul wasn’t able to cut Nate Diaz. I thought for sure that there would be lots of blood. I guess now we wait for Nate to get his revenge in MMA with a quick chokehold.

They have yet not reached that discussion AFAIK. Although Jake had been training with UFC fighters, it could just be for Nate to hope he can get even. In boxing JP couldn't KO Diaz but in UFC cage, JP will definitely find himself in trouble when he is not in a real MMA fight and being taken down. That is Nate's world already and JP wouldn't put himself in such a situation. And so the reason why it's not in a contract. Nate may be old for boxing but in UFC fight, Nate has more experience. I doubt Jake will agree to fight.


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August 06, 2023, 06:54:23 PM
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That fight was pretty much exactly what I thought it was going to be. Nate Diaz is a pretty terrible boxer and that was very clear after the first round. The only thing that really surprised me about the fight was that Jake Paul wasn’t able to cut Nate Diaz. I thought for sure that there would be lots of blood. I guess now we wait for Nate to get his revenge in MMA with a quick chokehold.

They have yet not reached that discussion AFAIK. Although Jake had been training with UFC fighters, it could just be for Nate to hope he can get even. In boxing JP couldn't KO Diaz but in UFC cage, JP will definitely find himself in trouble when he is not in a real MMA fight and being taken down. That is Nate's world already and JP wouldn't put himself in such a situation. And so the reason why it's not in a contract. Nate may be old for boxing but in UFC fight, Nate has more experience. I doubt Jake will agree to fight.

In line with the discussion above, it was already expected that Nate Diaz will get defeated in this fight and he just have no chance at all because aside from the fact that he is not a real boxer, he also doesn't have any knockout power to gain an advantage towards Jake Paul. Which is also the reason why Jake is not that cautious because he knew that he could take and shake Nate's punches.

Now for their rematch, no need to be hyped by it because there is a chance that both of them just said that just to hype their first fight and to get the people's attention to make them watch their first fight to see some comparison aside from seeing a boxer and an MMA fighter in the ring. The fact that it wasn't inked makes it more difficult to expect.

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They have yet not reached that discussion AFAIK. Although Jake had been training with UFC fighters, it could just be for Nate to hope he can get even. In boxing JP couldn't KO Diaz but in UFC cage, JP will definitely find himself in trouble when he is not in a real MMA fight and being taken down. That is Nate's world already and JP wouldn't put himself in such a situation. And so the reason why it's not in a contract. Nate may be old for boxing but in UFC fight, Nate has more experience. I doubt Jake will agree to fight.
I don't understand why you say that Jake Paul will refuse that while according to what I read he has himself propose the deal to Nate Diaz, in addition he has already signed a contract with the PFL organization to make MMA fights. So I really think he will do it in the coming months or very few years. He will maybe fight one or two other opponents to begin, before facing Nate Diaz but he will definitely do it because I don't think he runs behind glory and victories, but just behind money. When his brother Logan Paul dared to face Mayweather it wasn't to try to beat obviously.  

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August 06, 2023, 08:06:49 PM
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They have yet not reached that discussion AFAIK. Although Jake had been training with UFC fighters, it could just be for Nate to hope he can get even. In boxing JP couldn't KO Diaz but in UFC cage, JP will definitely find himself in trouble when he is not in a real MMA fight and being taken down. That is Nate's world already and JP wouldn't put himself in such a situation. And so the reason why it's not in a contract. Nate may be old for boxing but in UFC fight, Nate has more experience. I doubt Jake will agree to fight.
I don't understand why you say that Jake Paul will refuse that while according to what I read he has himself propose the deal to Nate Diaz, in addition he has already signed a contract with the PFL organization to make MMA fights. So I really think he will do it in the coming months or very few years. He will maybe fight one or two other opponents to begin, before facing Nate Diaz but he will definitely do it because I don't think he runs behind glory and victories, but just behind money. When his brother Logan Paul dared to face Mayweather it wasn't to try to beat obviously.  

These 2 brothers are really up to their game so long they are seeing potential money making fights.
But I believe Paul will be very cautious as he wants to maintain his winning status after Nate's wins.
So yes, he may be facing opponents in MMA before facing again Nate Diaz. He will continue chasing potential boxers or MMA fighters,
so long he is seeing he has some sort of following on these sports, because that means, he will be earning more.
Actually, more than what most professional boxers are earning. So I don't think he will stop anytime soon trying to figure out who's next on his list.
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I watched the highlights very late because there was no electricity in my city, but from what I could see of the highlights, it was a fight in which the two fighters were always grabbing each other, and it seemed to me that Nate Diaz was going to go after the Jake Paul with the intention of catching Jake Paul instead of keeping his distance like in normal boxing, because of that it seemed to me that it was a very boring fight and by doing that he just put Jake Paul as a good boxer, because during the fight Jake Paul was fighting in a way without catching the opponent, in my opinion although I only saw the highlights videos

but even so I see Jake Paul having come out of this fight with a deserved victory and if he continues like this then he can certainly still beat other strong boxers, but the question will be if he and his team will challenge the good boxers and take the risk of Jake Paul losing by a knockout and in the first rounds of the fight or Jake Paul and his team will be chasing fighters who are not at the top and who aren't very strong because with that the real chances of Jake Paul winning will be very high and he won't he will run great risks of losing by knockout and thereby ruining his reputation

because in my opinion a loss of Jake Paul by knockout in the first rounds would spoil his reputation and make future fights unfeasible, that would not be good in financial terms, we will see what Jake Paul's next fight will be, if he will choose a strong opponent or a bit strong opponent as he has chosen, I laughed with a comment from someone on youtube because he said that Jake Paul only beats old and retired people, but for me some people are underestimating Jake Paul and don't want to see that he is strong and wins on merit
Diaz is a grappler, it only makes sense to stick to his style and retain grabbing habits since he's an MMA fighter, not a boxer. Jake is a stupid fuck who stalled for time by clinching on Nate the whole while and only landing punches when it goes his way. Doesn't make sense for him to get a unanimous vote in my opinion since there's no fight to be had when all you do is grab the enemy and punch him every now and again. Some may argue it's strategy but I say it's a dirty tactic.

Sad that Nate lost this fight but this doesn't prove anything in Jake Paul's way. First off this is a celebrity showmatch, Secondly this wasn't even in Nate's way, put him in the octagon with Jake and watch as he obliterates the ever living shit out of his smug face.

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August 06, 2023, 09:24:34 PM
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I am not a boxing critic neither watch the sport all that much so what I am going to say about this match would be a total useless junk. However, I would like to ask one question, it looks like Jake managed to knockdown Nate once, and for all the rest of the fight it looked like Nate was having a blast and easily hitting his punches and doing all the right things. Is one knockdown more important in boxing than all the higher amount of shots and better landing? If so then there was one knockdown so the winner makes sense. I am not going to say "Nate came from another sport", nate is a fighter, no matter what he fought in, Jake was a youtuber, I would never take his fights seriously, but we can easily say that Jake deserved this win, I do not think there are many YouTubers out there who would be able to become a boxer that boxes better than an UFC grappler.

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August 06, 2023, 09:38:50 PM
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I watched the highlights very late because there was no electricity in my city, but from what I could see of the highlights, it was a fight in which the two fighters were always grabbing each other, and it seemed to me that Nate Diaz was going to go after the Jake Paul with the intention of catching Jake Paul instead of keeping his distance like in normal boxing, because of that it seemed to me that it was a very boring fight and by doing that he just put Jake Paul as a good boxer, because during the fight Jake Paul was fighting in a way without catching the opponent, in my opinion although I only saw the highlights videos

but even so I see Jake Paul having come out of this fight with a deserved victory and if he continues like this then he can certainly still beat other strong boxers, but the question will be if he and his team will challenge the good boxers and take the risk of Jake Paul losing by a knockout and in the first rounds of the fight or Jake Paul and his team will be chasing fighters who are not at the top and who aren't very strong because with that the real chances of Jake Paul winning will be very high and he won't he will run great risks of losing by knockout and thereby ruining his reputation

because in my opinion a loss of Jake Paul by knockout in the first rounds would spoil his reputation and make future fights unfeasible, that would not be good in financial terms, we will see what Jake Paul's next fight will be, if he will choose a strong opponent or a bit strong opponent as he has chosen, I laughed with a comment from someone on youtube because he said that Jake Paul only beats old and retired people, but for me some people are underestimating Jake Paul and don't want to see that he is strong and wins on merit
Diaz is a grappler, it only makes sense to stick to his style and retain grabbing habits since he's an MMA fighter, not a boxer. Jake is a stupid fuck who stalled for time by clinching on Nate the whole while and only landing punches when it goes his way. Doesn't make sense for him to get a unanimous vote in my opinion since there's no fight to be had when all you do is grab the enemy and punch him every now and again. Some may argue it's strategy but I say it's a dirty tactic.

Sad that Nate lost this fight but this doesn't prove anything in Jake Paul's way. First off this is a celebrity showmatch, Secondly this wasn't even in Nate's way, put him in the octagon with Jake and watch as he obliterates the ever living shit out of his smug face.
Never ever consider out that MMA fighters could really be able to beat out the shit of a pure boxer specially when it comes to boxing rules then it would really be just that common sense on whose gonna win on the fight.

If we do speak about stamina then boxers are really having the advantage compared to those MMA fighters. I doubt that there would be some rematch in octagon on which it cant really be possible but well it would really be depending on the negotiation in between parties if this one really let to happen. It is true that this is really just that a celebrity showmatch on which there's no way that this could really be taken up seriously.
Everything is for the sake of money just like with those other similar matches. As long it would really be hyped up then it wont really be that something new that they are the ones who do purse out
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August 06, 2023, 10:40:53 PM
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Much longer fight than I expected and maybe this was strategy used by both fighters.
Now I see Jake Paul saying he seriously wants to transition to MMA, and Nate Diaz is asking for MMA rematch.
This sounds to me like to much coincidence, but I would give advantage to Nate Diaz in potential MMA fight.
After thar I think it is time for him to finally retire, he is getting older, his face is already ruined, and I wont say anything about his brain.

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August 06, 2023, 10:46:38 PM
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Much longer fight than I expected and maybe this was strategy used by both fighters.
Now I see Jake Paul saying he seriously wants to transition to MMA, and Nate Diaz is asking for MMA rematch.
This sounds to me like to much coincidence, but I would give advantage to Nate Diaz in potential MMA fight.
After thar I think it is time for him to finally retire, he is getting older, his face is already ruined, and I wont say anything about his brain.

Nate will have an edge if Jake Paul agrees to an MMA match he has Juijitsu and grappling skills something that will surprise Jake, its better if Jake agrees to do an MMA once so he'll know if he has a chance in MMA against a real MMA fighter people will soon get enough to see him fight old MMA fighters, he'll have to do transition to other combat sports or starts fighting real boxers, he is getting better in boxing we may soon find him in the top 10.

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August 06, 2023, 10:54:10 PM
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Much longer fight than I expected and maybe this was strategy used by both fighters.
Now I see Jake Paul saying he seriously wants to transition to MMA, and Nate Diaz is asking for MMA rematch.
This sounds to me like to much coincidence, but I would give advantage to Nate Diaz in potential MMA fight.
After thar I think it is time for him to finally retire, he is getting older, his face is already ruined, and I wont say anything about his brain.

Nate will have an edge if Jake Paul agrees to an MMA match he has Juijitsu and grappling skills something that will surprise Jake, its better if Jake agrees to do an MMA once so he'll know if he has a chance in MMA against a real MMA fighter people will soon get enough to see him fight old MMA fighters, he'll have to do transition to other combat sports or starts fighting real boxers, he is getting better in boxing we may soon find him in the top 10.

i agree that before he fights with nate via MMA route, he needs to fight first a lesser known MMA fighter to gauge where he is at MMA arena. he may have beaten Nate in boxing, but with MMA rules, he might find it difficult.
but anyway, Paul's win over Nate will give him more confidence to look for other fighters, because for sure when he lost to Fury, it gave a setback on his career. hence, his determination to win on this recent match.

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August 06, 2023, 11:04:16 PM
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Drake threw $250,000 on Nate Diaz to beat Jake Paul with 4 to 1 odds. I think he’s probably just hoping to get himself a million dollar payout and didn’t see much gain in betting on Jake Paul. While this does make me think maybe Jake isn’t the sure thing I think he is, it’s not enough to get me to follow him. I still say Jake wins by stoppage.

We all know that Drake loves to throw money on bets that usually doesn't make sense, because he has the capacity to just bet on whoever he likes at the bout. Jake is a decent boxer. Not particularly good, but can throw some decent punches and has a good stamina. If this fight goes the distance, he'd probably win against Nate. But if Jake couldn't really handle the punches Nate is throwing at him, this is a $1m payout for Drake. Stamina-wise, Jake is the better choice. Though in punching power and overall ability to create space and close it, Nate should do this quite easily.

Well in this case, for the first time I am routing for Drake, haha.
4:1 seems quite high for Nate Diaz, he is definitely able to beat JP. He just needs to watch out for the hard punches. If he controls the tempo and follows his game plan there is a good chance to be victorious.

I just hope it's not a rigged fight. With all these "exhibitions" you never know these days.

Seems like it is. There doesn't seem to be any indication that Nate tried to win. Nevertheless, two different fighting disciplines, two different techniques. Jake is the better boxer, but that doesn't mean he's the better fighter. Unanimous decision means that Nate is ready to take the hits, and he's just not really that trained so much in boxing.

I feel sorry for Drake, but what's $250,000 for a multi-millionaire anyway?

Much longer fight than I expected and maybe this was strategy used by both fighters.
Now I see Jake Paul saying he seriously wants to transition to MMA, and Nate Diaz is asking for MMA rematch.
This sounds to me like to much coincidence, but I would give advantage to Nate Diaz in potential MMA fight.
After thar I think it is time for him to finally retire, he is getting older, his face is already ruined, and I wont say anything about his brain.

Nate will have an edge if Jake Paul agrees to an MMA match he has Juijitsu and grappling skills something that will surprise Jake, its better if Jake agrees to do an MMA once so he'll know if he has a chance in MMA against a real MMA fighter people will soon get enough to see him fight old MMA fighters, he'll have to do transition to other combat sports or starts fighting real boxers, he is getting better in boxing we may soon find him in the top 10.

If Jake transitioned into MMA, he'd be surprised on how well even the leanest fighters can hold and grapple against huge guys. I've seen Asian guys grappled the hell out of muscular men lots of times to the point of submission, and Jake would not be ready to be in that field unless he dedicates the next year or so of his life in purely practicing grappling and getting out of it.
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August 07, 2023, 05:09:01 AM
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If Jake transitioned into MMA, he'd be surprised on how well even the leanest fighters can hold and grapple against huge guys. I've seen Asian guys grappled the hell out of muscular men lots of times to the point of submission, and Jake would not be ready to be in that field unless he dedicates the next year or so of his life in purely practicing grappling and getting out of it.

That's a different field for Jake Paul; he'll not excel in kickboxing as what he trained well is on boxing. If we have noticed, he is also very keen on choosing his opponents, that's why he maintains a good record. So it's a big risk for him if he'll go for UFC where he does not have the advantage.

It's enough that we witnessed Jake Paul from being a social media influencer to now a pro boxer, and we have enjoyed most of his fights if not all.

Just imagine, when a popular fighter retires or stops in UFC because of injury or they are aging, they still have another opportunity to make big money in boxing. The good news is that they can even make bigger money compared to what they earn in UFC.

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