Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign.

[sujonali1819]

Nothing to explain more. The bounty manager Jr BM started a bounty to increase his/her telegram/Twitter followers. It's okay. But the manager is also asking for a positive comment in his/her service thread.. And first 300 valid participants will be paid. That means let's wait for at least 300 spam/shilling comments in his/her service thread.

It's already started. How you are looking at this?

archive: https://archive.ph/Da30Q

[Poker Player]

It's already started. How you are looking at this?

Can't that be dealt through reporting? I think massive spam is usually dealt with.

[Plaguedeath]

Nice you bringing up here, I'm not check it even though his thread keep bumped in service board.

It's really suspicious how he ask the participants to leave a positive review, he haven't manage any bounty and we don't know how trusted he's.

I already leave a neutral feedback on his account, his client need to check the feedback left on his account. I will not surprised if he might ask the participants to give him merit or positive feedback in the future.

[Saisher]

Project developers should not trust this kind of bounty manager because they are incapable of bringing up good results if they are faking their trust rating they are also going to fake their results.
Legit bounty managers never resort to shilling they know that project developers are wise enough to choose the right managers for their project, not someone who manipulates their reputation through shilling.

[LoyceV]

Can't that be dealt through reporting?

I think so: it's not allowed to give an incentive to post. Although there have been exceptions in the form of review campaigns, in this case it's just spam. And since it's paid in altcoins, it's a giveaway that's not allowed. I've reported both topics.

He also says the campaign is escrowed, by his own team. Lol.

[LDL]

Jr BM takes A unit strategy has been adopted to manage the bounty. He arranged a positive review campaign to entice bounty hunters to promote his service thread. Already there are more than 20 positive comments, if his spamming thread is not locked, then Jr BM will promote his service thread by this positive review-campaign. I request the moderator to close that thread immediately.

[sujonali1819]

It's already started. How you are looking at this?

Can't that be dealt through reporting? I think massive spam is usually dealt with.

Yeah, exactly. But I was talking about how it looks the whole thing

He also says the campaign is escrowed, by his own team. Lol.

LOL, it's funny.

I am feeling crazy after reading the bump message in the service thread. Though we can not expect more than this from the hunters.

Jr BM takes A unit strategy has been adopted to manage the bounty. He arranged a positive review campaign to entice bounty hunters to promote his service thread. Already there are more than 20 positive comments, if his spamming thread is not locked, then Jr BM will promote his service thread by this positive review-campaign. I request the moderator to close that thread immediately.

After the discussion here and warning him in his service thread, he should stop the campaign (the positive comment) asap.

[Findingnemo]

I guess it's against the forum rules as stated above and the user maybe banned temp or permanent for this action since its already reported but yet I can see the existence of thread.

I wonder what will be the benefit of asking them to such positive comment especially from newbie and jr member accounts, anyone who is looking for a business will consider this?


EDIT:

Jr BM You should not ask people to make positive comments in your service thread. It looks like paid bumping which may cause a lot of spamming. As a bounty manager, you should be smart enough. You could ask them to comment here, but it should not be compulsory or even should not be paid. I hope you can understand and change the bounty rules asap.

Thanks for your advise. Let us make the rules compulsory to optional.

He says will make it as optional will this be okay or still some kind of positive farming involved in this?

[lucifur]

I wonder what will be the benefit of asking them to such positive comment especially from newbie and jr member accounts, anyone who is looking for a business will consider this?

He assumed that this will give him a positive feedback here in the forum. Prolly to tell his future customers how good he is as a bounty manager. It's foolish.

[acroman08]

EDIT:

Jr BM You should not ask people to make positive comments in your service thread. It looks like paid bumping which may cause a lot of spamming. As a bounty manager, you should be smart enough. You could ask them to comment here, but it should not be compulsory or even should not be paid. I hope you can understand and change the bounty rules asap.

Thanks for your advise. Let us make the rules compulsory to optional.

He says will make it as optional will this be okay or still some kind of positive farming involved in this?

to be honest I don't think it is and I think he just worded it poorly or he shouldn't have said optional. but if you ask me they should have just said that they wouldn't obligate people who review their service to give a positive review in order to get a reward(just like how some review campaign I saw).

[holydarkness]

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He says will make it as optional will this be okay or still some kind of positive farming involved in this?

to be honest I don't think it is and I think he just worded it poorly or he shouldn't have said optional. but if you ask me they should have just said that they wouldn't obligate people who review their service to give a positive review in order to get a reward(just like how some review campaign I saw).

That... is what "optional" means, people are not obligated to give positive review to get rewards.


On their last post, Jr BM said they will remove that "write review" part completely, as per OP's suggestion. Let's see if they'll remove it or not later today. If they didn't, I might consider leaving a neutral to negative tag under the reason that their action --asking for fake review-- is questionable, dishonest, and borderline untrustworth.

[bullrun2024bro]

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Thanks for bringing the threads to our attention @sujonali1819.

I already left a (neutral) feedback and reported the threads. Shouldn't we tag the spam accounts that post meaningless one-liners as well?

This is a first list of accounts (but, I am sure there are more):

Code:

Jr BM
Mst09
Biddutbam
Adeel_shahzad
Ahmad_pk0092
JANUS23
Makisha99
younas@76872
Brigoldonor
Arshman392
Fahmeed_siddiqui
Kashif60508
Relief33
SPARE
M__SUFYAN
Robin961219##
Cutfish28
Emmadelatim
Robicrypto
Kola10@
Khdotsh
AliRazatitok
Tauhid2035

[elevates]

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Thanks for bringing the threads to our attention @sujonali1819.

I already left a (neutral) feedback and reported the thread. Shouldn't we tag the spam accounts that post meaningless one-liners as well?

This is a first list of accounts (but, I am sure there are more):

There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it.

There are a few BM who have the habit of being on the wrong side for god knows what reason. I think this rule needs to be amended as it has been 7 years now.

[bullrun2024bro]

There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it.

You call it. These are guidelines.

IMHO, it's not a loophole. It's common sense that asking for fake positive (!) reviews is highly untrustworthy and therefore should be punished by the community. At least with a neutral tag, to let others know.

Same goes for the accounts that post fake positive one-liner reviews for a few bucks. Even though they never dealt with the service before.

[robelneo]

There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it.

You call it. These are guidelines.

IMHO, it's not a loophole. It's common sense that asking for fake positive (!) reviews is highly untrustworthy and therefore should be punished by the community. At least with a neutral tag, to let others know.

Same goes for the accounts that post fake positive one-liner reviews for a few bucks. Even though they never dealt with the service before.

I call this bribing to build his reputation, that bounty managers do not know how to use plain common sense how can he say that he is a trusted manager or can be trusted to run a campaign when he paid for his reputation, even if the guidelines don't have that, it's on your character not to bribe people to praise you and make you appear a good manager.
You can compare it to an election the bounty manager is vote buying, so we can easily say that he is a corrupt bounty manager.
 

[acroman08]

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He says will make it as optional will this be okay or still some kind of positive farming involved in this?

to be honest I don't think it is and I think he just worded it poorly or he shouldn't have said optional. but if you ask me they should have just said that they wouldn't obligate people who review their service to give a positive review in order to get a reward(just like how some review campaign I saw).

That... is what "optional" means, people are not obligated to give positive review to get rewards.

I know what it means, that is why I said "I don't think it is" and said that "it was worded poorly" when Findingnemo asked his question, and then I just added what I personally think they should have done to paint a clearer message since Findingnemo had a question whether saying "optional" is fine or not.

@OP, sorry for derailing the thread.

[FatFork]

There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it.

This is financially incentivized spam, similar to giveaway threads, which are banned on the forum. You can about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.0

Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads.

[Poker Player]

The service thread has already been deleted by moderators. Jr BM has tried to collaborate by rectifying his mistake, but even so, the way he started is a botched job that makes me wonder if he is not really 16 years old. I wouldn't hire him at all.

[Adbitco]

Oh shit!
What a mess, I tried clicking on the service thread and was deleted already, I was hoping you archived it before final deletion from mode?
For a bounty manager to source for a review from participants is purely not acceptable maybe if anyone gives him or them a review it should be that they are satisfied with his job or something worth reviewing for than just imposing hunters to give them a positive review on the service thread.

[Yogee]

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There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it.

He only asked for a positive review so that could fall under incentivized posting and there is already an existing and an even older rule that covers that so that's not really a loophole. The BM was just careless and didn't read or bother to ask before posting the rules of his $3 giveaway.

Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. Existing threads will be locked.

Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.

Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here.