🛑 Be aware from these type of scammer 🚫 ☠

[Crypto Library]

Todays afternoon I was on my bed for rest, in the meantime Royse(the imposter) knocked me by telegram, asking for a favor, so I gladly took interest and then he asked me to send some invoices for him.
Then I thought Royse is asking and his Telegram username is also correct, so I went to my wallet and asked his wallet to send money.  But in the main time, I remember if Royse would have asked then she/he would have signed the message.
Then again I went to visit his Telegram account,  wait wait!! What I am seeing, this is not username it's just a text linked on the bio.
I would like to tell everyone, especially to beginners, be aware beforehand, because nothing could be done later.

• Always verify or confirm with BitcoinTalk during on any type of transaction, regardless of how well-reputed members are.
• It will be best to use message signing option
• Follow up these things also incase of known faces, as it is possible that his device is in someone else's hands.

1. The starting of drama


2. To make more realistic this drama he(scammer) also created a group


Here those tel address, already changed his user name to tokaiishere


*** I would like to say to those scammers- nice try, but it won't gonna be able to harm  Royse777 's reputation and also don't get me into your trap. And the main purpose of this post is to make you aware of the drama of scammers.***

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[paid2]

Thank you for sharing this with us, and in such detailed way.

As always, some people are desperate enough to dare anything. I sincerely hope that no one will fall into the trap, especially newbies, but I don't think it will work. And apparently, he already switched to another personnality on TG / another scam  
This will not affect Royse's reputation in any way, as everyone will soon be aware of the deception and most people dealing with Royse are regulars on the forum and know about this type of scam.

I would have liked to give you merits for this useful post, I don't have any more smerits at the moment, but I'll add your topic to my list of topics to merit

[sujonali1819]

Lol, the old-school way to scam. But I liked the drama. The conversation in the group he created is really so funny It's good that you were aware of it that helps to not lose the money.

The best thing is to avoid them as soon as you know that something is wrong. Just ban them to reduce the same things in the future because I assume they are the same guy/group who is trying this way to make people fool. If they know the way is not working for you they will not come in the future.

[sokani]

Some persons might have not cross check the telegram profile and would have send the funds to the scammer but I'm glad you discovered this and you never send the fund. There are lot of scammers impersonating people on telegram. That's how I won a prize in a telegram group and the admin drop a message that winners of the competition should send a DM with his or wallet address. I was not online when the announcement was made, a scammer quickly changed his username to something close to mine and collected the price.

The admin felt really bad that he was scammed and wanted to pay me from his pocket and I told him to forget about it.

[Learn Bitcoin]

@Royse777, When did you start doing shit?  

Wait, Why Royse777 again?
Do you think it's just a typical attempt to scam anyone? Or it's another attempt to ruin Royse777's Reputation?
Since the scammer knocked Crypto Library and tried to frame Royse777, he is undoubtedly a forum user. His English is not bad. He must have a good rank forum account since he writes good English. Royse777 is making more enemies every day. You have to be careful, dude.

[Pokapoka124]

I liked the way you handled the situation, it’s likely he got your telegram username from the bounty group. I wonder how many people got the same message, it’s good you double-checked to see if the person was really Royse777. The conversation on the group chat was hilarious, they tried to make it look like an emergency so OP would make the payment. There are so many cases of scammers impersonating reputable members on telegram, some users decided to change their bitcointalk username because of this problem.

[AB de Royse777]

Here what I have :-D







It's now more entertaining :-P

[_BlackStar]

Scammers could come up with a few different ideas, but in the OP's case - it's a basically predictable way. It's important to verify who sent you any PMs on TG or other platforms, but I'm sure TG is a scammer's paradise.

But anyway, I like the way you handled it - one easy request is always impossible for scammers ^{[unless their bitcointalk account gets hacked].} But another best piece of advice is, ask for signed message from bitcoin address that was once used - I'm sure impersonators won't be able to do that and will give some ridiculous excuses.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

More being extra careful is required or needed in cryptocurrency as a whole, we need to secure ourselves and asset from any Invaders by being conscious of things going on in the world of crypto, many have been hacked and duped because of their ignorance in determining those attacks whenever they showed up, the more we get their new means the more they improvise new one to ensure they always attack because that's their only means through which they strike.

[robelneo]

Scammers could come up with a few different ideas, but in the OP's case - it's a basically predictable way. It's important to verify who sent you any PMs on TG or other platforms, but I'm sure TG is a scammer's paradise.

Its always been, they are good at imitating people in this case Royse777, this could become another topic about Royse777 again if you proceed without caution and completed the transaction, it's good that you are quick to check details.

But anyway, I like the way you handled it - one easy request is always impossible for scammers ^{[unless their bitcointalk account gets hacked].} But another best piece of advice is, ask for signed message from bitcoin address that was once used - I'm sure impersonators won't be able to do that and will give some ridiculous excuses.

We should all be like OP, double-check the details, and don't be in a hurry to have a conversation or worse do a transaction, scammers are good at details so you should be also.

[John Abraham]

Telegram is Scammers Paradise. The attempt is predictable. But people can fall into that because they may don't know that scams can happen in such a way. Suppose I had a conversation with Royse before. If scammers knock me from a different telegram account, I can easily detect it because the old messages are not there anymore. This should be the first red flag.

I am wondering why Royse is again. A guy, How many times can he defend his haters? I understand he made some mistakes before. But, He is flying now. He is trying to fix everything, and it seems he succeed.

[Razmirraz]

The idea the scam is using is too easy to read and he's using a familiar name on the forum, it's a really stupid thing for a scammer to do. The original Royse777 is well known to many people on forums and has a telegram account that is familiar to users who have worked with it (https://t.me/R7BountyQA)

The valuable lesson from this kind of fraud drama is never trust anyone who asks anything from you. There are so many scammers posing as established people in forum via Telegram or other social media to lure victims into their traps. Before doing anything you should double check their telegram profile, you will find something wrong there if they are scammers.

[acroman08]

the dude really came prepared with a story about his starving one-year-old kid. the funny thing is, this type of story is extremely common from scammers when they are trying to rush and guilt their targets into quickly sending the money to them.

this thread reminded me of when Coolcryptovator was impersonated on Telegram, luckily the user that was messaged by the scammer asked Coolcryptovator here through PM if he contacted him on Telegram and Coolcryptovator confirmed that he didn't that contact him.

[John Abraham]

he likely got your telegram username from the bounty group. I wonder how many people got the same message,

Yes. They did get the usernames from his bounty group. A couple of users get the same message from those scammers. One of the victims shared that he got scammed by them. The amount was $11 only. But it could have been bigger than that. https://t.me/R7BountyQA/27322. I hope this was the only Victim who has fallen for their trap. No one else has shared anything yet. I hope nobody else gets scammed by this attempt.

If I am not wrong, Royse already removed them from the group. He has to be careful with his clients as well. I suggest Royse777 talk with your client who works with you. Such as Sinbad, Raul, Mixero and others as well. Please make sure they are aware of this situation. They should double-check before they respond to your messages. It may not affect a general user. But, It's a threat for a campaign manager like you. You don't want your client to get scammed.

[Findingnemo]

So the take from the thread is don't do any trades related to bitcointalk members outside the platform because it's easy to impersonate via telegram like apps so anyone really want to send any message will make us of PM feature available on bitcointalk and then proceed using chat apps for convenience purpose.

[ajiz138]

Telegram is Scammers Paradise. The attempt is predictable. But people can fall into that because they may don't know that scams can happen in such a way. Suppose I had a conversation with Royse before. If scammers knock me from a different telegram account, I can easily detect it because the old messages are not there anymore. This should be the first red flag.

In Telegram, more people impersonate the real thing and then knock on the PM asking for help because of emergencies and we often see this, but for those who already know, it might be easy to detect that a fraudster will definitely knock on the PM first rather than discussion in the group, but the important thing is vigilance we are not to easily trust anyone especially if he sent PM first.

So the take from the thread is don't do any trades related to bitcointalk members outside the platform because it's easy to impersonate via telegram like apps so anyone really want to send any message will make us of PM feature available on bitcointalk and then proceed using chat apps for convenience purpose.

It's true that it's safer via bitcointalk because it can be verified with the original account rather than outside the forum, obviously it's more of a trap because the fraudsters are ready to prey on who they know or other popular names, even trading on forums is better than other chats, only to keep from prevention only.

[Little Mouse]

It's not the first time, nor it's going to be the last time. This was a more common trick back in the day. I would like to mention another scam trick. Scammer uses the small letter "L" and capital letter "i" in their username which sometimes creates confusion and some people get tricked.
Always verify on bitcointalk and even better if you ask for a signed message from a stake address here.

Since the scammer knocked Crypto Library and tried to frame Royse777, he is undoubtedly a forum user

Anyone targetting forum users is definitely a forum user. There are a lot of such guys here pretending to be the honest guy but doing shits scumbug behind the scene.

[Getmon]

This was on the same day that I fell for their cheap plan. I was the one that sent Royse the TRX before and afterward that fake Royse made a group chat including that, John Doe. Fake Royse let me know that John Doe asserted he was the one that sent the token yet needs verification. I just shrug it off by asking why someone would be interested in a $10 fraud. After that, fake Royse kicked John Doe and asked if I could send $10 in ETH too, to which I agreed because I was at my computer at the time. So, I sent the ETH, but I started to doubt when he asked if I could pay his invoice too while he was still away from home. This was the only time I made an effort to verify the identity of the real Royse by looking at my chat history.

Furthermore I was a victim of that cheap scheme. Perhaps I was not extremely careful because it was just 10 bucks. Fake Royse is currently hiding behind a different profile, which could be the administrator of Fortune Jack. Additionally, I do not like why Telegram allowed its users to share the same username, as opposed to other social media platforms.

[Hispo]

Well, I must admit that these scammers at least tried to be a little bit more original than the usual idiots around the internet.
Thank you for letting us know. This is the sort of thread in this section which I am glad to merit to. 

Also, as a rule of thumb for everyone who likes to use Telegram for crypto related projects and communications: always assume you are talking to a scammer if the person in the other side cannot provide a signed message from a certified staked address.
It is very low that they tried to pocket 80 bucks while trying to damage the reputation of a campaign manager at the same time.

Stay safe, people. 

[dansus021]

An old-school way but the username sometimes is a little bit tricky if we didn't notice it very well there is a thread that discussed similar case like this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448368.0.

Play with them and ruin his time sometimes it's funny though.

[joker_josue]

What I found most interesting, and what makes it even more important to be aware of, is the fact that this scheme was very well put together and with many details.

The probability of being a regular user here on the forum is very high. Therefore, we have to be very attentive, because the scammer is around here and has certainly used other schemes to try to catch the distracted.

[Ndabagi01]

What an attempt by the scammer! Everything just went too real that you wouldn’t know it was an imposter. I’ve heard of such scams, but I had no idea they used to be so real that you couldn't doubt them. Telegram has long been renowned as a haven for scammers.

It's a good thing you asked the scammer to send you a message on BTT; it was the only way to confirm, and he didn't, which is a red flag that he's an imposter. Thank you for properly giving this information; it is quite beneficial to the forum.

[coin-investor]

It's a good thing you asked the scammer to send you a message on BTT; it was the only way to confirm, and he didn't, which is a red flag that he's an imposter. Thank you for properly giving this information; it is quite beneficial to the forum.

The rule is always to ask for verification on Bitcointalk, the other party will not be offended because that's the general rule we are preaching here ever since but once both of you establish communication things will be easy because you will always have a history of chats loaded up to you when you strike a conversation again to the other party unless he deleted the conversation, but if the conversation is deleted for unknown reason or because you or the other party did this, you will have to verify again on Bitcointalk.

[DaNNy001]

What an attempt by the scammer! Everything just went too real that you wouldn’t know it was an imposter. I’ve heard of such scams, but I had no idea they used to be so real that you couldn't doubt them. Telegram has long been renowned as a haven for scammers.

It's a good thing you asked the scammer to send you a message on BTT; it was the only way to confirm, and he didn't, which is a red flag that he's an imposter. Thank you for properly giving this information; it is quite beneficial to the forum.

Thats why i don't like telegram that much because that platform is filled with so many imposters and scammers and they can manipulates account so that their victims wouldn't be able to identify that they are scammers, i almost fell for a scammer trying to impersonate shasan in his telegram. Here is a sample of the two accounts

Shasan real account is @shasan32 but the imposter added one number making his @shasan324 and if you are not careful enough you will fall for these scammers.

[Popkon6]

Be sure to think carefully before doing anything in particular, and check the BitcoinTalk forum to see if any scam is legit. Because once a transaction is completed with such a cycle, they cannot be found again, so you will be disappointed forever. Like the cryptolibrary brother who did the work is undoubtedly good because he was careful not to trade and came to the forum and checked. And beware of such cycles because deception cycles are all around us.
Scamming has started with the name of reputed managers to spoil the reputation of the managers.

[Razmirraz]

What an attempt by the scammer! Everything just went too real that you wouldn’t know it was an imposter. I’ve heard of such scams, but I had no idea they used to be so real that you couldn't doubt them. Telegram has long been renowned as a haven for scammers.

It's a good thing you asked the scammer to send you a message on BTT; it was the only way to confirm, and he didn't, which is a red flag that he's an imposter. Thank you for properly giving this information; it is quite beneficial to the forum.

Thats why i don't like telegram that much because that platform is filled with so many imposters and scammers and they can manipulates account so that their victims wouldn't be able to identify that they are scammers, i almost fell for a scammer trying to impersonate shasan in his telegram. Here is a sample of the two accounts

Shasan real account is @shasan32 but the imposter added one number making his @shasan324 and if you are not careful enough you will fall for these scammers.

The best solution to prevent becoming a victim of scammers is to ignore them. If you have any doubts about the tricks they use by posing as one of the forum members you know, don't ever hesitate to ask the relevant user directly. You will get the truth after talking directly with real forum users, after that you can immediately block the fake account.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

It's not the first time, nor it's going to be the last time. This was a more common trick back in the day. I would like to mention another scam trick. Scammer uses the small letter "L" and capital letter "i" in their username which sometimes creates confusion and some people get tricked.
Always verify on bitcointalk and even better if you ask for a signed message from a stake address here.

Since the scammer knocked Crypto Library and tried to frame Royse777, he is undoubtedly a forum user

Anyone targetting forum users is definitely a forum user. There are a lot of such guys here pretending to be the honest guy but doing shits scumbug behind the scene.

Let take caution on how we relate with some forum users especially those we are not conversant with, some comes to us in disguise for being friends or try to get familiar with us even though we have no cognitive relationship with them, all our private and personal details must be maintained within ourselves, we should not get loose easily or distracted by any chance from those we had encounter with.

[Gladitorcomeback]

Then again I went to visit his Telegram account,  wait wait!! What I am seeing, this is not username it's just a text linked on the bio.

Interesting to see this how dare this scammer is. He has keep hidden his username and his Bio is looking just like hus Username. At first glance everyone can be decieved but i appreciate your work that you double checked his username again and again and at last you has traced it. If i was in your place maybe i would scammed by this bloody scammer.

I would like to tell everyone, especially to beginners, be aware beforehand, because nothing could be done later.

• Always verify or confirm with BitcoinTalk during on any type of transaction, regardless of how well-reputed members are.
• It will be best to use message signing option
• Follow up these things also incase of known faces, as it is possible that his device is in someone else's hands.

Message Signing is best option which will increase the security because in case of social media hack or device hand change one cannot be scammed easily. Address should also be checked. scammer will always use new address to scam while reputed members will oftentimes use old address he used many times in this forum and signed transaction with this wallet.

[wwzsocki]

This way of impersonating accounts is sophisticated and not easy to figure out for not experienced Telegram user

My account was also targeted

Thanks to @yahoo62278 he just posted comment about this thread, so if you want to look what happened here link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449834

maybe it will be worth to add some info here, merge threads together to warn people

PS
we still can't figure out how they do it?

How they add people to groups if privacy settings don't allow it?

How they create account that is linked to group description? has no real profile page/popup or username!

there are only 2 people in group, me and him and where is this 3rd account that is impersonating me?

all messages are visible and that account haven't left the group, there is no admin, which should be not possible

anybody knows?

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[MainIbem]

Telegram is the most deadliest place to work with if time is not taken you won't know the real dealer and the fake, I believe what saved him was when he asked for a confirmation through pm on the forum otherwise he would have lose money in the name of trying to be manager.
I only rejects few things on telegram whenever I received pm from users, at first if the user are too desperate of knowing where I am chatting from, or inquisitive to know my crypto holdings I don't hesitate to instantly block them or even trying to introduce me to investment platform.

[KingsDen]

Telegram is the most deadliest place to work with if time is not taken you won't know the real dealer and the fake, I believe what saved him was when he asked for a confirmation through pm on the forum otherwise he would have lose money in the name of trying to be manager.
I only rejects few things on telegram whenever I received pm from users, at first if the user are too desperate of knowing where I am chatting from, or inquisitive to know my crypto holdings I don't hesitate to instantly block them or even trying to introduce me to investment platform.

I don't why telegram is the platform I feel most unsafe online. Whenever I opened my telegram, it appears to me that I have opened the den of criminals, scammers and hackers. And is the reason I don't have any serious business or conversation on telegram.
But no matter how often we run from it, it is undeniable that telegram is a very important platform for outreach and exposure of projects.  But one needs to be extremely careful when dealing with unknown people on telegram.

[MainIbem]

Telegram is the most deadliest place to work with if time is not taken you won't know the real dealer and the fake, I believe what saved him was when he asked for a confirmation through pm on the forum otherwise he would have lose money in the name of trying to be manager.
I only rejects few things on telegram whenever I received pm from users, at first if the user are too desperate of knowing where I am chatting from, or inquisitive to know my crypto holdings I don't hesitate to instantly block them or even trying to introduce me to investment platform.

I don't why telegram is the platform I feel most unsafe online. Whenever I opened my telegram, it appears to me that I have opened the den of criminals, scammers and hackers. And is the reason I don't have any serious business or conversation on telegram.
But no matter how often we run from it, it is undeniable that telegram is a very important platform for outreach and exposure of projects.  But one needs to be extremely careful when dealing with unknown people on telegram.

The annoying part of it when they scam person and quickly change their username to something else, if the team of telegram will try their best to implement some certain rules on that platform it will be more appreciative. For instance, whenever a username is being choose or taken let it last for at least 30 days before such user can be able to change it again just as facebook does, I think is about 90 or 60 days before one could apply for change of username though I don't know if such policy have been rule off. But there should be some modalities to enhance the usability of telegram by then the risk level may reduced.

[KingsDen]

The annoying part of it when they scam person and quickly change their username to something else, if the team of telegram will try their best to implement some certain rules on that platform it will be more appreciative. For instance, whenever a username is being choose or taken let it last for at least 30 days before such user can be able to change it again just as facebook does, I think is about 90 or 60 days before one could apply for change of username though I don't know if such policy have been rule off. But there should be some modalities to enhance the usability of telegram by then the risk level may reduced.

Apart from the chnage of username, when i was new to telegram and I was scammed of some dollars. Although that was a newbie mistake. But I was surprised that the scammer was able to  clear their own message history and was able to wipe mine too. It was there I discovered how vulnerable telegram is.

[CryptSafe]

I will advise that if anyone chats you up claiming to be from here, you should first tell them to pm you with their real bitcointalk forum account so as to be sure who they are. I believe with that,they would be scared of getting close to you again as they have found out you already know their tricks.

It is so absord how they will just from nowhere start impersonating and claiming identity to scam people. These days they are very smart and I takes smartness too to outsmart them.

[Marykeller]

Anyone who is not watchful and intelligent enough would be taken advantage of by scammers on Telegram. I have stopped responding to any chats sent to me on Telegram because of the way scammers pretend to be real there. From my perspective, Telegram is a haven for scammers.

In order to avoid being accidentally duped by anyone, I immediately hit the block button on any unneeded talks about investments, joining investment groups, or clicking on any links sent to me by anyone on Telegram.  I like the fact that you were smart enough and you did fall victim to the person posing like Royse on telegram. Not everyone can be this smart to differentiate between the real and fake telegram handle.


The best approach to avoid scammers on Telegram these days is to ignore their polite inquiries and answers to determine whether they are genuine or not. The more time you allow them to explain themselves, the more they will try to trick you into believing what they say.

[348Judah]

The annoying part of it when they scam person and quickly change their username to something else, if the team of telegram will try their best to implement some certain rules on that platform it will be more appreciative. For instance, whenever a username is being choose or taken let it last for at least 30 days before such user can be able to change it again just as facebook does, I think is about 90 or 60 days before one could apply for change of username though I don't know if such policy have been rule off. But there should be some modalities to enhance the usability of telegram by then the risk level may reduced.

Apart from the chnage of username, when i was new to telegram and I was scammed of some dollars. Although that was a newbie mistake. But I was surprised that the scammer was able to  clear their own message history and was able to wipe mine too. It was there I discovered how vulnerable telegram is.

If we are to continue talking about the scam associated to the use of telegram, we can't just finish it because they appear in many ways and dimensions, bot to bow talk about the social media in general, his call for us to be morr careful with the groups or pages we like, follow or join because at the end, we will ended up not benefiting anything from them than spamming and loosing the little we have in possession, they can operate in many ways and claim what they like to you, which means we should not easily give on in trusting people we don't know like that.

[virasog]

*** I would like to say to those scammers- nice try, but it won't gonna be able to harm  Royse777 's reputation and also don't get me into your trap. And the main purpose of this post is to make you aware of the drama of scammers.***

You are the one who did not get scammed by this imposter but there may be many who may think that he is "ROYSE" and they may transfer the money to him 
Also, since he was unable to make you fool, he will continue to try his luck with other people with the hope that some may not pay attention to the detail.
It's our own responsibility to keep ourselves safe and before taking any action, we should 100% confirm if we are talking to the right person.

[albon]

*** I would like to say to those scammers- nice try, but it won't gonna be able to harm  Royse777 's reputation and also don't get me into your trap. And the main purpose of this post is to make you aware of the drama of scammers.***

Scammers try to impersonate the accounts of well-known bounty managers and project admins on Telegram to deceive the victims. I block many scammers daily. Telegram is frankly now crowded with scammers. Therefore, there is a sentence that was able to thwart their fraudulent actions through impersonating accounts, which is (Admin Never DM you first), meaning that anyone who sends you a direct message first knows that he is a 100% scammer, so it is wrong to trust any account on Telegram without making sure that the person who is messaging you is the real person or not. You, @OP, have already mentioned several good points for verification. Also, any bounty manager does not ask for money from the people who work in his campaigns, as this is his job, and he receives his salary from the project owners, and of course, he does not need any financial assistance or the like.

[Phu Juck]

Scammers try to impersonate the accounts of well-known bounty managers and project admins on Telegram to deceive the victims. I block many scammers daily. Telegram is frankly now crowded with scammers. Therefore, there is a sentence that was able to thwart their fraudulent actions through impersonating accounts, which is (Admin Never DM you first), meaning that anyone who sends you a direct message first knows that he is a 100% scammer, so it is wrong to trust any account on Telegram without making sure that the person who is messaging you is the real person or not. You, @OP, have already mentioned several good points for verification. Also, any bounty manager does not ask for money from the people who work in his campaigns, as this is his job, and he receives his salary from the project owners, and of course, he does not need any financial assistance or the like.

It is a big question to me, why people still fall for such scam.
Telegram scam is a huge dumb scam and I can't believe how dumb some people are, really!
Mabye 95% of PM on Telegram are scam and it's always similar scam tactics.
It's always where we have to send funds. WE have to send.

How is such dumb scam tactics still profitable for Telegram scammers?