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Todays afternoon I was on my bed for rest, in the meantime Royse(the imposter) knocked me by telegram, asking for a favor, so I gladly took interest and then he asked me to send some invoices for him. Then I thought Royse is asking and his Telegram username is also correct, so I went to my wallet and asked his wallet to send money. But in the main time, I remember if Royse would have asked then she/he would have signed the message. Then again I went to visit his Telegram account, wait wait!! What I am seeing, this is not username it's just a text linked on the bio. I would like to tell everyone, especially to beginners, be aware beforehand, because nothing could be done later. - Always verify or confirm with BitcoinTalk during on any type of transaction, regardless of how well-reputed members are.
- It will be best to use message signing option
- Follow up these things also incase of known faces, as it is possible that his device is in someone else's hands.
1. The starting of drama 2. To make more realistic this drama he(scammer) also created a group Here those tel address, already changed his user name to tokaiishere *** I would like to say to those scammers- nice try, but it won't gonna be able to harm Royse777 's reputation and also don't get me into your trap. And the main purpose of this post is to make you aware of the drama of scammers.***
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April 13, 2023, 04:39:13 PM |
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Thank you for sharing this with us, and in such detailed way. As always, some people are desperate enough to dare anything. I sincerely hope that no one will fall into the trap, especially newbies, but I don't think it will work. And apparently, he already switched to another personnality on TG / another scam This will not affect Royse's reputation in any way, as everyone will soon be aware of the deception and most people dealing with Royse are regulars on the forum and know about this type of scam. I would have liked to give you merits for this useful post, I don't have any more smerits at the moment, but I'll add your topic to my list of topics to merit
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sujonali1819
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April 13, 2023, 04:58:37 PM |
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Lol, the old-school way to scam. But I liked the drama. The conversation in the group he created is really so funny It's good that you were aware of it that helps to not lose the money. The best thing is to avoid them as soon as you know that something is wrong. Just ban them to reduce the same things in the future because I assume they are the same guy/group who is trying this way to make people fool. If they know the way is not working for you they will not come in the future.
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April 13, 2023, 05:50:16 PM Last edit: April 13, 2023, 06:23:11 PM by sokani |
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Some persons might have not cross check the telegram profile and would have send the funds to the scammer but I'm glad you discovered this and you never send the fund. There are lot of scammers impersonating people on telegram. That's how I won a prize in a telegram group and the admin drop a message that winners of the competition should send a DM with his or wallet address. I was not online when the announcement was made, a scammer quickly changed his username to something close to mine and collected the price.
The admin felt really bad that he was scammed and wanted to pay me from his pocket and I told him to forget about it.
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April 13, 2023, 05:56:25 PM |
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@Royse777, When did you start doing shit? Wait, Why Royse777 again? Do you think it's just a typical attempt to scam anyone? Or it's another attempt to ruin Royse777's Reputation? Since the scammer knocked Crypto Library and tried to frame Royse777, he is undoubtedly a forum user. His English is not bad. He must have a good rank forum account since he writes good English. Royse777 is making more enemies every day. You have to be careful, dude.
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April 13, 2023, 05:58:56 PM |
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I liked the way you handled the situation, it’s likely he got your telegram username from the bounty group. I wonder how many people got the same message, it’s good you double-checked to see if the person was really Royse777. The conversation on the group chat was hilarious, they tried to make it look like an emergency so OP would make the payment. There are so many cases of scammers impersonating reputable members on telegram, some users decided to change their bitcointalk username because of this problem.
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AB de Royse777
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April 13, 2023, 06:17:55 PM |
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_BlackStar
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April 13, 2023, 06:19:20 PM |
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Scammers could come up with a few different ideas, but in the OP's case - it's a basically predictable way. It's important to verify who sent you any PMs on TG or other platforms, but I'm sure TG is a scammer's paradise.
But anyway, I like the way you handled it - one easy request is always impossible for scammers [unless their bitcointalk account gets hacked]. But another best piece of advice is, ask for signed message from bitcoin address that was once used - I'm sure impersonators won't be able to do that and will give some ridiculous excuses.
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Aanuoluwatofunmi
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April 13, 2023, 10:45:30 PM Last edit: April 20, 2023, 06:02:05 PM by Aanuoluwatofunmi |
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More being extra careful is required or needed in cryptocurrency as a whole, we need to secure ourselves and asset from any Invaders by being conscious of things going on in the world of crypto, many have been hacked and duped because of their ignorance in determining those attacks whenever they showed up, the more we get their new means the more they improvise new one to ensure they always attack because that's their only means through which they strike.
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robelneo
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April 13, 2023, 11:01:54 PM |
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Scammers could come up with a few different ideas, but in the OP's case - it's a basically predictable way. It's important to verify who sent you any PMs on TG or other platforms, but I'm sure TG is a scammer's paradise. Its always been, they are good at imitating people in this case Royse777, this could become another topic about Royse777 again if you proceed without caution and completed the transaction, it's good that you are quick to check details. But anyway, I like the way you handled it - one easy request is always impossible for scammers [unless their bitcointalk account gets hacked]. But another best piece of advice is, ask for signed message from bitcoin address that was once used - I'm sure impersonators won't be able to do that and will give some ridiculous excuses. We should all be like OP, double-check the details, and don't be in a hurry to have a conversation or worse do a transaction, scammers are good at details so you should be also.
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John Abraham
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April 14, 2023, 02:41:29 AM |
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Telegram is Scammers Paradise. The attempt is predictable. But people can fall into that because they may don't know that scams can happen in such a way. Suppose I had a conversation with Royse before. If scammers knock me from a different telegram account, I can easily detect it because the old messages are not there anymore. This should be the first red flag.
I am wondering why Royse is again. A guy, How many times can he defend his haters? I understand he made some mistakes before. But, He is flying now. He is trying to fix everything, and it seems he succeed.
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Razmirraz
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April 14, 2023, 01:18:08 PM |
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The idea the scam is using is too easy to read and he's using a familiar name on the forum, it's a really stupid thing for a scammer to do. The original Royse777 is well known to many people on forums and has a telegram account that is familiar to users who have worked with it ( https://t.me/R7BountyQA) The valuable lesson from this kind of fraud drama is never trust anyone who asks anything from you. There are so many scammers posing as established people in forum via Telegram or other social media to lure victims into their traps. Before doing anything you should double check their telegram profile, you will find something wrong there if they are scammers.
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April 14, 2023, 02:40:42 PM |
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the dude really came prepared with a story about his starving one-year-old kid. the funny thing is, this type of story is extremely common from scammers when they are trying to rush and guilt their targets into quickly sending the money to them.
this thread reminded me of when Coolcryptovator was impersonated on Telegram, luckily the user that was messaged by the scammer asked Coolcryptovator here through PM if he contacted him on Telegram and Coolcryptovator confirmed that he didn't that contact him.
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John Abraham
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April 14, 2023, 04:12:53 PM |
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he likely got your telegram username from the bounty group. I wonder how many people got the same message, Yes. They did get the usernames from his bounty group. A couple of users get the same message from those scammers. One of the victims shared that he got scammed by them. The amount was $11 only. But it could have been bigger than that. https://t.me/R7BountyQA/27322. I hope this was the only Victim who has fallen for their trap. No one else has shared anything yet. I hope nobody else gets scammed by this attempt. If I am not wrong, Royse already removed them from the group. He has to be careful with his clients as well. I suggest Royse777 talk with your client who works with you. Such as Sinbad, Raul, Mixero and others as well. Please make sure they are aware of this situation. They should double-check before they respond to your messages. It may not affect a general user. But, It's a threat for a campaign manager like you. You don't want your client to get scammed.
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April 14, 2023, 04:20:07 PM |
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So the take from the thread is don't do any trades related to bitcointalk members outside the platform because it's easy to impersonate via telegram like apps so anyone really want to send any message will make us of PM feature available on bitcointalk and then proceed using chat apps for convenience purpose.
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Telegram is Scammers Paradise. The attempt is predictable. But people can fall into that because they may don't know that scams can happen in such a way. Suppose I had a conversation with Royse before. If scammers knock me from a different telegram account, I can easily detect it because the old messages are not there anymore. This should be the first red flag.
In Telegram, more people impersonate the real thing and then knock on the PM asking for help because of emergencies and we often see this, but for those who already know, it might be easy to detect that a fraudster will definitely knock on the PM first rather than discussion in the group, but the important thing is vigilance we are not to easily trust anyone especially if he sent PM first. So the take from the thread is don't do any trades related to bitcointalk members outside the platform because it's easy to impersonate via telegram like apps so anyone really want to send any message will make us of PM feature available on bitcointalk and then proceed using chat apps for convenience purpose.
It's true that it's safer via bitcointalk because it can be verified with the original account rather than outside the forum, obviously it's more of a trap because the fraudsters are ready to prey on who they know or other popular names, even trading on forums is better than other chats, only to keep from prevention only.
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Little Mouse
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April 14, 2023, 04:46:20 PM |
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It's not the first time, nor it's going to be the last time. This was a more common trick back in the day. I would like to mention another scam trick. Scammer uses the small letter "L" and capital letter "i" in their username which sometimes creates confusion and some people get tricked. Always verify on bitcointalk and even better if you ask for a signed message from a stake address here. Since the scammer knocked Crypto Library and tried to frame Royse777, he is undoubtedly a forum user
Anyone targetting forum users is definitely a forum user. There are a lot of such guys here pretending to be the honest guy but doing shits scumbug behind the scene.
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Getmon
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April 14, 2023, 10:41:50 PM |
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This was on the same day that I fell for their cheap plan. I was the one that sent Royse the TRX before and afterward that fake Royse made a group chat including that, John Doe. Fake Royse let me know that John Doe asserted he was the one that sent the token yet needs verification. I just shrug it off by asking why someone would be interested in a $10 fraud. After that, fake Royse kicked John Doe and asked if I could send $10 in ETH too, to which I agreed because I was at my computer at the time. So, I sent the ETH, but I started to doubt when he asked if I could pay his invoice too while he was still away from home. This was the only time I made an effort to verify the identity of the real Royse by looking at my chat history. Furthermore I was a victim of that cheap scheme. Perhaps I was not extremely careful because it was just 10 bucks. Fake Royse is currently hiding behind a different profile, which could be the administrator of Fortune Jack. Additionally, I do not like why Telegram allowed its users to share the same username, as opposed to other social media platforms.
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April 16, 2023, 04:06:12 PM |
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Well, I must admit that these scammers at least tried to be a little bit more original than the usual idiots around the internet. Thank you for letting us know. This is the sort of thread in this section which I am glad to merit to. Also, as a rule of thumb for everyone who likes to use Telegram for crypto related projects and communications: always assume you are talking to a scammer if the person in the other side cannot provide a signed message from a certified staked address. It is very low that they tried to pocket 80 bucks while trying to damage the reputation of a campaign manager at the same time. Stay safe, people.
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April 18, 2023, 03:19:43 AM |
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An old-school way but the username sometimes is a little bit tricky if we didn't notice it very well there is a thread that discussed similar case like this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448368.0. Play with them and ruin his time sometimes it's funny though.
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