Sports betting vs fantasy sports

[cabron]

How can you say fantasy sports have become a norm? We already know the difference between the two.
I may have been old a bit but I don't see fantasy sports to be really a sport that the school will even promote for the kids to play. This kind of sport doesn't promote social interaction and no physical activity. 

Gambling is always frowned upon by the public but which one do they dislike more, you playing cards in casinos or betting on sports?

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[maydna]

Both are skill based yet former is considered sheer gambling while later is not. Fantasy sports has become norm, while on the other hand if people come to know that you bet on sports you'll be met with eyebrow raise.

^ that's my opinion. What's yours? Do you consider both of them same or different?

If the fantasy sports you mean are CS or the like, I've never played them. I've only ever bet on sports which is football because that's what attracts me. But just a minute, what norms are you referring to?

Sports betting and fantasy sports have their respective fans and we know the two games are different. And I think people would be fine if they found out that there are people who play fantasy sports because it's their choice.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Both are skill based yet former is considered sheer gambling while later is not. Fantasy sports has become norm, while on the other hand if people come to know that you bet on sports you'll be met with eyebrow raise.

^ that's my opinion. What's yours? Do you consider both of them same or different?

They are basically the same as I understand, and gambling is gambling, whether you are doing it on visual sports or physical sports, I personally have never placed bets on fantasy sports, and I honestly do not see the need to, since there is more than enough games to bet on on normal Sports..

But then, if you are betting on fantasy sports, or doing traditional sports betting, both are basically the same, and that is gambling.

[ChiBitCTy]

I'm not sure where you're from, but here in the United States sports betting has become a much more legalized thing as well as something that isn't looked down upon as much as it once was.  Sure some people still look down on others for sports betting, but that's changing very quickly here.  Once upon a time playing fantasy sports and doing NCAA march madness tournatment pools at work was frowned upon..now it's something companies are actively doing as a team bonding type thing.

Also, sports betting is certainly not sheer luck/game of chance. There is absolutely a skill and knowledge aspect!  Fantasy certainly takes skill as well.  I always say Fantasy Football is 1/3 skill , 1/3 luck, 1/3 dedication.

[romero121]

Sports betting is Prediction about the individual team's outcome of the match. This means we were able to see odds on different things starting from match winner, top scorer, number of goals, best performer, and the choice varies based on different sports.

When it comes to fantasy sports betting, it is all about the combined outcome of the match. Here we will be making a team and make it win. This means we pick the best players and if the players have performed well in the match we'll be winners based on the points each player add. So, this can be fun but the excitement is always with sports betting.

[PX-Z]

Both are gambling, as long there is betting and some platform make it possible to bet. Yet, they are different. Although i dont have experience in fantasy one, but sports betting are more popular and looks like its are more accepted in most countries than the other traditional form of gambling either in physical or online casinos.

[libert19]

Both are skill based yet former is considered sheer gambling while later is not. Fantasy sports has become norm, while on the other hand if people come to know that you bet on sports you'll be met with eyebrow raise.

^ that's my opinion. What's yours? Do you consider both of them same or different?

I have no real clue how fantasy sports exactly works and how you could bet large sums of money on it. A few friends of mine played fantasy football in the past and where building ridiculous strong teams with the best players all around the world and would be winning every match. I never really understood how the results were generated, there must be some algorithm behind it. And when there is an algorithm determining results, can't there be players figuring it out and using it for their advantage? My main concern is to not fully understand the risks involved and not being able to make correct predictions to bet on. I would expect only gamblers who have an advantage to bet on fantasy league games.

You select players who you think will play well, select captains and vice captains who will earn you bonus points. Thereon, you compete with other players, top scorer wins the game. Everyone has same access to create 'ridiculous strong' team, may be your friends just have good knowledge of football.

[wheelz1200]

Both are skill based yet former is considered sheer gambling while later is not. Fantasy sports has become norm, while on the other hand if people come to know that you bet on sports you'll be met with eyebrow raise.

^ that's my opinion. What's yours? Do you consider both of them same or different?

Way different.  That's like saying poker and slots are the same.  One you are playing against the house with Odds skewd in their favor, the other you are playing against other people.  If you are better at something than other people over time you will win more than they will.  It's the whole against the house or against other people that separate the 2.

[Pierre 2]

Looks like posters in this thread was very confused although fantasy sports is some type of sports gambling. It involves real life results. But instead of you are betting on teams, scores etc you bet on players! You try to find best performing ones that week (best scorer, most assists, one without yellow/red cards - also you try to find "clean sheet" goalkeepers or defenders with their teams conceding the least goals). Both are skill based but in fantasy one there are leaderboards that you try to compete with other people.
My father once become weekly leader, with a bit of luck and perfect guesses. We received nice reward.

[shogun47]

Both are skill based yet former is considered sheer gambling while later is not. Fantasy sports has become norm, while on the other hand if people come to know that you bet on sports you'll be met with eyebrow raise.

^ that's my opinion. What's yours? Do you consider both of them same or different?

I wonder whether you have accidentally confused the sequence here? You mean sports betting is pure gambling but simulated sports are not? I would put those terms the other way around. Betting on simulated sports is as much luck as it can get unless the games are rigged anyway. That's the biggest contra for me personally. It is essentially impossible to verify whether games have been rigged or not if they are simulated. I have no idea but probably there could even be bugs. You can at least watch the real games and develop an opinion yourself whether the game went correctly or not. Simulated sports don't allow for any realistic assessment at all.

[Kakmakr]

I see that there are a lot of people on here that does not know what fantasy Sport betting is, so here is a small explanation :

"Fantasy sports betting is a different concept from traditional sports betting, as you don't bet directly on the outcome of any sporting events. Instead you create a fantasy sports team and compete against opponents to try and win money." - Source : https://www.gamblingsites.com/sports-betting/types/fantasy/

People will criticize something when they do not know what it is about, so it is your task to educate them. Just take Bitcoin as an example.... people criticize it, because the concept is not clear to them. 

[mindrust]

Both are skill based yet former is considered sheer gambling while later is not. Fantasy sports has become norm, while on the other hand if people come to know that you bet on sports you'll be met with eyebrow raise.

^ that's my opinion. What's yours? Do you consider both of them same or different?

I never liked fantasy sports. To me, it is a meaningless thing. Sports betting though, it is the real thing. Why would someone spend his time on the fake stuff while the real thing exists? You can study teams, coaches, referees and come up with an educated guess when you bet on sports. That is a very valuable thing to have which you don't with the purely luck based games. Studying teams don't always work though it is still better than having nothing. I'd rather bet on sports than betting on a luck based game.

[karmamiu]

@OP
Relating fantasy sports, did you mean simulated sports, or games related gaming platforms (like CS:GO or LoL?)
Because regarding "simulated sports" I think that these are 2 completely kind of gambling type vs real sport bet. If you have enough experience, real sport bet can have a certain degree of prediction and the same could apply with online games as mentioned before.
Simulated sports are randomly without anything "predictable" unless a certain degree of uncertainty.  

If the OP means about fantasy games like DOTA2 or LOL then I guess at the very beginning of the game you will already see who has the upperhand considering both teams need to be more careful in drafting their in-game characters to play, but in most cases specially nowadays that it is quiet challenging enough to predict the outcome since there are not only one or 2 strategies you can play on a game. There is also this thing you consider like power spikes during early, mid, until late game. Unlike sports betting in which you will have to see the line-ups and first people who will play inside the court, their offensive and defensive strategies, and mostly a player's respective stats, but there are also tendencies on a team game that during in the middle of the game their plays become slow or fast paced depending on the situation. So still nothing is guaranteed on the end but everyone can still gamble on it.

[jrrsparkles]

Both are skill based yet former is considered sheer gambling while later is not. Fantasy sports has become norm, while on the other hand if people come to know that you bet on sports you'll be met with eyebrow raise.

^ that's my opinion. What's yours? Do you consider both of them same or different?

I consider fantasy sports betting is selective scamming technique and they brand it as skill game not as gambling which itself is a wrong statement its more risky and perfect definition of gamble than choosing which team will win either this or that in sport betting. Also the rewards are not transparent so it's a big question mark whether you can trust it for big amount.

[TopTort777]

I see that there are a lot of people on here that does not know what fantasy Sport betting is, so here is a small explanation :

"Fantasy sports betting is a different concept from traditional sports betting, as you don't bet directly on the outcome of any sporting events. Instead you create a fantasy sports team and compete against opponents to try and win money." - Source : https://www.gamblingsites.com/sports-betting/types/fantasy/

People will criticize something when they do not know what it is about, so it is your task to educate them. Just take Bitcoin as an example.... people criticize it, because the concept is not clear to them. 

Thanks for explanation. Never though people would bet on imaginary teams. For me Fantasy sports betting was a total mix of a computer games and a bets like "who would win King Kong vs Godzilla" (at first I did not even where those two could compete...). Turns out this is like a football manager pc game with gambling option. Then I have even more questions - what if a person creates a team that has same players as other team. Sort of a copy/paste. How can a winner be found in such case? An algorithm will select the winner randomly? Like jrrsparkles told, that looks scammy and not transparent at all.

[kryptqnick]

I think I've tried placing bets on those simulated matches that don't happen in real life but account for what's supposed to happen if certain teams consisting of certain players are competing against each other. If the op is referring to what Kakmakr explained in the thread, then no, I haven't tried fantasy betting.
To be honest, I feel more comfortable betting on actual sports. Sure, sometimes there's a risk of match fixing, but it still feels better to bet on something that will actually play out, something real people will take part in. And perhaps there's a decent amount of skill in sports betting, so some can consistently win, but to me, it's more of a way to spend free time, a type of entertainment to bet and see how it goes.

[ufaiz50]

Both are skill based yet former is considered sheer gambling while later is not. Fantasy sports has become norm, while on the other hand if people come to know that you bet on sports you'll be met with eyebrow raise.

^ that's my opinion. What's yours? Do you consider both of them same or different?

Of course they are different, the fantasy sports can be tampered or can be controlled and there are some possibility that the skills of the players will depends on the bets on the team. I would still consider placing bets on sports betting than the fantasy sports as there is no way we can make sure that the game is fair.

[TheGreatPython]

Fantasy sports are not like real life, and fantasy sports have nothing to do with participating in competitive sports. Fantasy sports consist of a manager (i.e. yourself) putting together their team with real life players strategizing and so on, this is similar to fantasy sports instead of creating fantasy teams for sports like football and basketball or others. It seems complicated and must really have very supportive skills and mastery.

So I prefer real sports betting, because here I get a lot of sports knowledge, especially in pursuits, like football and I also like playing football, so it's better to bet on what we like, can and understand because we will feel entertained while watch.

Fantasy sports leagues are also fun to play, to be honest, though I've never seen betting on them, I know there are apps and websites that allow you to play fantasy sports as a game where you get together your team, manage it and win games and beat other players that are competing with you online, I remember playing such a game on my android phone which was really fun.

About sports betting, real sports, It's probably going to be the pick of everyone when it comes to betting since it is better and more predictable than a fantasy game, of course. You can barely predict the correct outcome in a fantasy match in my opinion.

[Japinat]

They are different from each other as sports betting is a real sport where you can watch live. However, I get your point, and the main issue here is not the difference between the two, but the word "gambling".

Regardless of what type of gambling you are doing, it will always raise eyebrows of some. But be smart and don't get affected by that, as gambling is not really bad. It's only bad when a gambler is not gambling responsibly.

[libert19]

I never liked fantasy sports. To me, it is a meaningless thing. Sports betting though, it is the real thing. Why would someone spend his time on the fake stuff while the real thing exists? You can study teams, coaches, referees and come up with an educated guess when you bet on sports. That is a very valuable thing to have which you don't with the purely luck based games. Studying teams don't always work though it is still better than having nothing. I'd rather bet on sports than betting on a luck based game.

You do same thing in fantasy sports as well.

I consider fantasy sports betting is selective scamming technique and they brand it as skill game not as gambling which itself is a wrong statement its more risky and perfect definition of gamble than choosing which team will win either this or that in sport betting. Also the rewards are not transparent so it's a big question mark whether you can trust it for big amount.

I don't know if you understand what fantasy sports is or may be you just tried fantasy sports on some scummy platform and judging solely on that.

Thanks for explanation. Never though people would bet on imaginary teams. For me Fantasy sports betting was a total mix of a computer games and a bets like "who would win King Kong vs Godzilla" (at first I did not even where those two could compete...). Turns out this is like a football manager pc game with gambling option. Then I have even more questions - what if a person creates a team that has same players as other team. Sort of a copy/paste. How can a winner be found in such case? An algorithm will select the winner randomly? Like jrrsparkles told, that looks scammy and not transparent at all.

Depends on platform, where I play, winnings are split in such case.

Of course they are different, the fantasy sports can be tampered or can be controlled and there are some possibility that the skills of the players will depends on the bets on the team. I would still consider placing bets on sports betting than the fantasy sports as there is no way we can make sure that the game is fair.

Mind explaining? How is fantasy sports controlled/tampered?

fantasy sports as there is no way we can make sure that the game is fair.

Wdym with that?