Scarcity and scale of preference

[Hispo]

Have anyone here had ever read about the pyramid of Maslow? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs).
Before talking about necessities of humanity we need to know where the most of the population is currently at and where we want humanity to be.

Ideally we want all people to reach the top of the graph and develop the maximum of the capacities,so they can provide their families and society, however, we can agree that the resources needed for personal development increases while we advance upwards.

If we want to continue to advance, the governments of the world need either to restrict the growth of population or increase the amount of resources and space for human development, that is the motivation behind the spacial exploration, in my eyes, by the way, in the future we will need to send human to the moon and mars, for civil purposes.

That is just my opinion, of course. 

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[Silberman]

The resources needed to satisfy all the want of human being are said not to be enough compared to all the want of humans we have many want we would like to satisfy at any given point in time which we may not be able to meet up with due to economic problems scales of preference simple is setting our needs inorder of priority.

This is only half true, it is true that we cannot satisfy the wants of very single person around the world as our resources are limited, but I do not know if you have noticed but thanks to the advancement of our technology and our knowledge we have now many more resources than what we had a century ago, so if humans are able to master technologies like fusion power then satisfying our wants will become way more likely and the majority will enjoy improved life conditions as well.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

The resources needed to satisfy all the want of human being are said not to be enough compared to all the want of humans we have many want we would like to satisfy at any given point in time which we may not be able to meet up with due to economic problems scales of preference simple is setting our needs inorder of priority.

This is only half true, it is true that we cannot satisfy the wants of very single person around the world as our resources are limited, but I do not know if you have noticed but thanks to the advancement of our technology and our knowledge we have now many more resources than what we had a century ago, so if humans are able to master technologies like fusion power then satisfying our wants will become way more likely and the majority will enjoy improved life conditions as well.

Humans by nature are never satisfied with thier needs and they always find it insufficient so they keep on complaining about that.
Realistically advancement of science and technology have provided humans with millions of facilities which they are using.

[slapper]

Have anyone here had ever read about the pyramid of Maslow? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs).
Before talking about necessities of humanity we need to know where the most of the population is currently at and where we want humanity to be.

Ideally we want all people to reach the top of the graph and develop the maximum of the capacities,so they can provide their families and society, however, we can agree that the resources needed for personal development increases while we advance upwards.

If we want to continue to advance, the governments of the world need either to restrict the growth of population or increase the amount of resources and space for human development, that is the motivation behind the spacial exploration, in my eyes, by the way, in the future we will need to send human to the moon and mars, for civil purposes.

That is just my opinion, of course. 

Maslow's pyramid? Tremendous, folks! A masterpiece in human psychology. Before we talk about what people need, let's understand who we are and where we're headed. Our mission? Help everyone reach the top of the pyramid, unlock their potential, and make America - and the world - great!

But moving up isn't easy. Personal growth needs resources, and they're not endless. We need to face it: either limit population growth or find more resources and space. It's that simple.

Space exploration? It's huge! By conquering new planets, we create opportunities and unleash our full power. Sending people to the moon and Mars? Absolutely necessary for self-actualization. Let's climb the pyramid and make Earth great for everyone

[Gyfts]

There are enough resources to sustain basic quality of human life. Birth rates are going down in most countries anyways so the unrestricted exponential population growth is going to level out at some point -- though for economic purposes, it's good to have a large working population that will be able to subsidize the older demographic (which will eventually become the largest demographic if birth rates don't keep up and life expectancy goes up).

Seems like doosmday hysteria when people suggest we'll run out of resources.

[fadhilz123]

Humans are irrational beings. We have unlimited wants and the resources available to cater to them are limited. That is why the scale of preference comes in to make sure you use the available resources for your most pressing need.

Then why do you have to say Humans are irrational creatures? Meanwhile, every human being can think of using the resources that have been provided by nature. I think humans are quite rational creatures in using something they deem important so I don't think it's appropriate to say it's irrational even if you have a comparison for their preferences.

[BVeyron]

The resources needed to satisfy all the want of human being are said not to be enough compared to all the want of humans we have many want we would like to satisfy at any given point in time which we may not be able to meet up with due to economic problems scales of preference simple is setting our needs inorder of priority.

There are enough resources in the world to satisfy at least all basic needs of all people. But poverty and hunger in some places along with prosperity and luxury of the others (in most countries there are both types of places) is the result of developed capitalist policy. Now richest people of the world don't need money as the resource to spend, they need money as the tool to manipulate others. Most prosperous tycoons join forces with governments in pursuing such goals. So that unequal goods distribution is not an occasional thing, it's a thing which is used by rich to manipulate the poor ones.

[lizarder]

The resources needed to satisfy all the want of human being are said not to be enough compared to all the want of humans we have many want we would like to satisfy at any given point in time which we may not be able to meet up with due to economic problems scales of preference simple is setting our needs inorder of priority.

This relates to one's passion and lifestyle in living life, human priorities must be different in terms of position and financial levels, someone who tries to equalize one another are those who do not have a formula for their life. Imagine when someone is forced to buy something they don't need, while the need to buy is not an urge that they have to achieve, so that the impression is seen as a prestige to compete with other people who need it.

Setting needs in today's economic life is very important, if you are unable to control the preferences of the needs needed, then your financial level chaos will be problematic, which in the end you have to deal with loans from other parties. When our lives have entered this circle, then it's the same as you have trapped your own life in a big problem.

[teosanru]

I do not think that this saying is correct. When our requirements were primitive, man discovered wood, which was burned to obtain fire and the beginning of energy. After the needs increased, coal appeared, including steam locomotives and internal combustion engines. Then oil appeared and the aviation industry developed. Therefore, when human needs increase, resources develop in return. necessary to cover these needs.

I remember 100 years ago, people did not know about oil, and even when it appeared, they were not aware of this wealth, so the next wealth may be close or even outside the planet.

Actually this statement is the basis of all the development. This saying itself means what you are saying. That human wants keeps on increasing. As we grow further, we Bring in new resources and then use those resources to create new wants. This actually is basis on which whole economics is based and how most of the major governments drive their economic decisions. So correct or not this saying exists in every part of our world

[rby]

I think life is very simple but humans complicate it with endless unimportant pseudo-need-priority like need. And it goes on and on to create more scarcity of resources to satisfy our psuedo-need. Granted there are real needs and wants but they seem far from achievable because of too many economic problems.
But in reality, it is either we get one or the other. It is a trade. A trade - the most urgent need to the least urgent.
In doing so,we are making choices and setting priorities in allocating limited resources to satisfy unlimited wants and needs.
By doing this, we are choosing and establishing priorities in the allocation of finite resources to meet infinite wants and requirements.

The economis designed in such a way that the product designers make goods to appear that we actually need them by all means to survive. But in a real sense what we need to survive is not as much as what we want to acquire. We most times buy things that are not needed just because we have the spare money or we don't actually know what to do with money.
About what Op said, humans are working tirelessly to provide resources that will match human needs but the problem is that such resources also needs money to acquire them. At the end of the day, the problem is just money and nothing else.

[CageMabok]

Humans by nature are never satisfied with thier needs and they always find it insufficient so they keep on complaining about that.
Realistically advancement of science and technology have provided humans with millions of facilities which they are using.

Actually it is not dissatisfied with needs, but because every need that has been obtained will still be used up over time so that every human being must continue to look for needs in his life and science and technology are tools that can be used by all humans to find the necessities of life that they need and I think it will always give satisfaction to every human being who is able to use it better in his life.

[Poker Player]

I do not think that this saying is correct. When our requirements were primitive, man discovered wood, which was burned to obtain fire and the beginning of energy. After the needs increased, coal appeared, including steam locomotives and internal combustion engines. Then oil appeared and the aviation industry developed. Therefore, when human needs increase, resources develop in return. necessary to cover these needs.

I remember 100 years ago, people did not know about oil, and even when it appeared, they were not aware of this wealth, so the next wealth may be close or even outside the planet.

It is not. What the OP expresses is the Malthusian garbage vision, which proved to be wrong and maybe if we wait a long time it will become true, but like someone who predicts that tomorrow it will rain, and when the sun rises he predicts again that it will rain the next day, to do it again and again indefinitely until it finally rains. With 8 billion people and growing it could be that in the end we will have a problem of resources on earth, but when societies become richer population growth moderates and even reverses, so it remains to be seen if we will ever reach that catastrophic scenario. What we know to date is that no, Malthus was wrong, because human creativity and productivity go far beyond his imagination.

[Rruchi man]

The resources needed to satisfy all the want of human being are said not to be enough compared to all the want of humans we have many want we would like to satisfy at any given point in time which we may not be able to meet up with due to economic problems.

The word used to describe our "wants" as humans is "Insatiable", which really means our wants cannot be satisfied and it is not just because of economic problems but because "wants" are never ending and if you try to satisfy all you want every time simply because you have the financial capacity to do so, you will end up spending money unnecessarily and will be putting yourself up for financial lack. Every category of people in the society from the poor to the rich have wants, so wants is not just for the poor or does experiencing financial problems.

scales of preference simple is setting our needs in order of priority.

You talk about "needs" here? I hope you know that there is a difference between "wants" and "needs"?

[cryptoknightt]

True, it is not enough but it cannot be denied that there are still many greedy people who have power and abuse this power to obtain resources so that many people are deprived and can even get no resources at all.
Ultimately what needs to be met is not wants

[Iroh]

The resources needed to satisfy all the want of human being are said not to be enough compared to all the want of humans we have many want we would like to satisfy at any given point in time which we may not be able to meet up with due to economic problems scales of preference simple is setting our needs inorder of priority.

Human wants are unlimited and obviously cannot be ever satisfied. Human needs on the other hand, can. And I think the mineral resources that are deposited and found on Earth are enough to satisfy our immediate needs if efficiently managed and utilized. I think you’re actually talking about human needs and not wants. We could set up a scale of preference and prioritize our needs in order not to fall into financial ruin.
I can understand why it would seem that resources aren’t enough to fulfill our needs. Governments of various countries who are tasked with managing and putting these resources to good use for the overall benefits of the society end up mismanaging them or even going as far as putting them into personal use.

[bangjoe]

The resources needed to satisfy all the want of human being are said not to be enough compared to all the want of humans we have many want we would like to satisfy at any given point in time which we may not be able to meet up with due to economic problems scales of preference simple is setting our needs inorder of priority.

Human needs always increase every generation as well as the preferences of each generation have an orientation in life so that it will form a new idea to fulfill their preferences if no one offers it to them, if you compare human desires and their resources I think it will never be enough at any time basically humans are never satisfied even though their wishes have been achieved, there is always a position where they think of new things and want new things that are increasingly trendy or more prestigious, I really agree that indeed resources will never be enough to fulfill every desire even if you have have what is in this world, impossible things will definitely be your desire.

[Silberman]

The resources needed to satisfy all the want of human being are said not to be enough compared to all the want of humans we have many want we would like to satisfy at any given point in time which we may not be able to meet up with due to economic problems scales of preference simple is setting our needs inorder of priority.

Human needs always increase every generation as well as the preferences of each generation have an orientation in life so that it will form a new idea to fulfill their preferences if no one offers it to them, if you compare human desires and their resources I think it will never be enough at any time basically humans are never satisfied even though their wishes have been achieved, there is always a position where they think of new things and want new things that are increasingly trendy or more prestigious, I really agree that indeed resources will never be enough to fulfill every desire even if you have have what is in this world, impossible things will definitely be your desire.

It is true that never being satisfied is part of human nature but if it was not because of that then there will not be any advancement on the state of our civilization and everything will remain the same, as it is that desire what leads people to want to see what is beyond a mountain, an ocean and even the world, so it is interesting that our nature is both a curse and a blessing as without such nature it would be impossible for someone like Satoshi to ever exist.

[umbara ardian]

Resource prioritization and allocation are very complex matters that sometimes require a resolution according to fair and reasonable criteria. Sometimes, new desires are also created by new products and developments in science and technology, creating new needs.. However, that is not a reason to agree that resources are not enough to satisfy all human desires. Development and efficient use of resources can also help with this. We need creative creative to distribute and use resources in the most beneficial way for society as a whole.

[gaston castano]

I agree, but not everyone puts their priorities first, some people tend to prioritize their desires first rather than fulfilling what they really need.
that is why people's nature and wealth are different because they have different principles.

[Silberman]

I agree, but not everyone puts their priorities first, some people tend to prioritize their desires first rather than fulfilling what they really need.
that is why people's nature and wealth are different because they have different principles.

It is easy for many people to confuse the two and think that a want is instead a need, for example I have a friend that always buys the newest apple smartphone as soon as it is released and I have asked them why they do that? As it is not as if the new model is a dramatic improvement over their previous model, and they say to me that this is something they need for their job, which is false as they could do their job with a smartphone which cost a fraction of the newest model, so they are a perfect example of someone which confuses what they want with what they need.