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April 16, 2023, 10:02:24 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong

I am not a football fan and any form of prediction is still a gamble to me, but I have gamble on few different online casinos and I believe that gamblers on casinos gambles with the casino games, meaning it's between the gambler and the casino, but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?

This makes it more cleaner to me, there will be no tampering of the system or fine tunning their games to make gamblers loses more than they win.

Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.

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April 16, 2023, 11:15:48 AM
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The questions should be addressed to sportsbetting in general and should not be limited to football only as it applies to others as well. It's true that the bookmakers have less involvement into the outcome of the game. They don't have to deal with the traditional house edge and fairness of the game unlike in casinos. They get their profit by working with the odds provided for each match.

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April 16, 2023, 11:51:03 AM
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Maybe that's one of the reasons I never spend a lot of money in casinos and play casino games, I don't care if the casinos say they have a system that's probably fair, they'll touch the games so not many gamblers will win no matter how many strategies are used, I always using small bets to play but even then just for fun while waiting for the time for a football event so you don't feel bored.

I am more interested in football betting and betting big money than playing in a casino, because football cannot be completely rigged so it is still easier to get money there than playing in a casino, but that does not mean that soccer betting is always profitable and without risk, all gambling activities have risk and anyone who bets to play gambling must be prepared with all the risks. My advice is to bet responsibly, wisely and use money where you are prepared to lose.

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April 16, 2023, 12:01:28 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong

I am not a football fan and any form of prediction is still a gamble to me, but I have gamble on few different online casinos and I believe that gamblers on casinos gambles with the casino games, meaning it's between the gambler and the casino, but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?

This makes it more cleaner to me, there will be no tampering of the system or fine tunning their games to make gamblers loses more than they win.

Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.

In theory it should be like that but it is not unfortunately.They cannot fine tune the game like they can do with their slot machines yes but still there is the referee there whom with his decisions can tear even the best team apart.I remember a funny phrase from a coach in my local league which is not a well known one when the best team lost to the last one in the standings and he said explicitly "with this referee even Brazil would have lost the game" blaming all the blame to the referee.

If referees were all as correct as you describe and that they would not impact the game it is surely better to bet on sport bets rather than playing on casino games like slot machines.

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April 16, 2023, 12:06:09 PM
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I am not a football fan and any form of prediction is still a gamble to me, but I have gamble on few different online casinos and I believe that gamblers on casinos gambles with the casino games, meaning it's between the gambler and the casino, but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?

This makes it more cleaner to me, there will be no tampering of the system or fine tunning their games to make gamblers loses more than they win.

Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.

You are mostly right. But the casino don't win directly when you lose money. The odds are designed in a way so, it doesn't matter which side you bet on, the casino will make money. When you bet on team A, team B and draw at the same time and you win one of these bets, you will still lose money. That's how the casino makes its money. (it is called the house edge) Obviously you are not the only player on that casino so not everybody is going to bet on the winning team. Some other people will bet on the losing side because who knows why.

This becomes a problem when the casino don't have enough players. That's because the casino don't calculate the odds by itself. It takes it from somewhere else. So if somehow there are more winners than the losers on a day, the casino will have to pay the winners from its own pocket and that's a big problem for the casino.

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April 16, 2023, 12:47:31 PM
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I am not a football fan and any form of prediction is still a gamble to me, but I have gamble on few different online casinos and I believe that gamblers on casinos gambles with the casino games, meaning it's between the gambler and the casino, but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?

This makes it more cleaner to me, there will be no tampering of the system or fine tunning their games to make gamblers loses more than they win.

Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.
In sports betting, casinos only place or offer bets between teams that are competing.
It is true that the casino cannot manipulate the results of the ongoing match because the course of a football match is not regulated by the casino and every team competing definitely wants to win so that the final result is determined by the two teams competing.
Casinos can only give gamblers a chance to win when betting, so if one of the stronger teams usually has a smaller chance so that if a gambler wins, the casino only gives gamblers a low winning advantage because the odds are lower.
But keep in mind that there are several football matches that can be manipulated where a team that, if we do research, should win, ends up drawing or losing because of acts of manipulation such as bribery for the team to yield or draw a draw.

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April 16, 2023, 12:50:00 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong

I am not a football fan and any form of prediction is still a gamble to me, but I have gamble on few different online casinos and I believe that gamblers on casinos gambles with the casino games, meaning it's between the gambler and the casino, but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?

This makes it more cleaner to me, there will be no tampering of the system or fine tunning their games to make gamblers loses more than they win.

Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.


It's the spontaneity and uncertainty of the outcome which excites and makes every gambler to bet more. It's the constant release of dopamine that is addictive that any person would continuously look for once tasted as good.

Well of course you're right. It exists not only in football but also in other sports such as basketball, boxing, or ufc fights. The only intervention there is to find an edge on which one to bet is actually the quality of players and performance of which team you are taking. Other than that, more concern is when there is an inside anomaly or internal arrangement. This happens when a certain player was being paid to throw and loses the game intentionally. Sometimes it is the referee who calls wrong and untrue violations intentionally to the opposite team.

It's a sports betting, all are most depends on the outcome of the game.

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There are two aspects to gambling, one is gambling on sports (sportsbetting), one is casino games (casino gambling). They are both gambling and which you decide to do depends on the one you are more comfortable with to gamble on and which you have more knowledge on. Sportsbetting is more difficult to manipulate than Casino games.

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There's a house edge that you don't know inside sports betting.

In short if there are 10 gamblers bet each $100 in a match, the casino has $1,000 as the pool, but odds designed they will only pay $950, the another $50 are their profit. The odds will not be 2.00x and 2.00x, but it's always 1.95x and 1.95x, as simple as that.

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April 16, 2023, 01:26:07 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong

I am not a football fan and any form of prediction is still a gamble to me, but I have gamble on few different online casinos and I believe that gamblers on casinos gambles with the casino games, meaning it's between the gambler and the casino, but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?

This makes it more cleaner to me, there will be no tampering of the system or fine tunning their games to make gamblers loses more than they win.

Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.
Technically house edge exists, so gamblers don't necessarily take 100% of their wins, casinos take something you can call a tax of sorts so that they profit even if winners actually win. Other than that, then yes, casinos don't really have anything that they can do to tamper with the results since matches are pretty public nowadays. This doesn't consider the matches themselves being fixed though, regardless of the casino's intentions, since that kind of stuff happens all the time in sports.

Besides, both in casinos and in sports betting, due to house edge existing, gamblers would always 100% lose compared to the casino.

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April 16, 2023, 02:12:30 PM
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As far as we can guess, betting house can't influence a football match between Barcelona and Real Madrid. They are more or less, making commissions through wins or losses. I am pretty sure odds in football matches set up in very fine tuned matter so obvious wins (1st rank team beating 18th etc) have very low odds, so its high possibility don't make gambling houses lose huge amount of money. I mean people should always consider this, all kinds of gambling is always against gambler. But that "being against" is very sensitively done so you don't feel it and its definitely NOT unfair.
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April 16, 2023, 02:35:21 PM
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I am not a football fan and any form of prediction is still a gamble to me, but I have gamble on few different online casinos and I believe that gamblers on casinos gambles with the casino games, meaning it's between the gambler and the casino, but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?

It is logical that you cannot compare sports betting with any game in a casino, so even though they have something in common, they are two different games. Although some will say that there is a method of "prediction" in some games such as blackjack or poker because some players know how to "count cards", it is mostly a combination of luck and patience in the game where the player tries to outsmart the game and the house.

Sports betting has a completely different component in the sense that it is possible to analyze each individual event in great detail, and thus filter and find those that have the highest chances in our favor. Of course, everything depends on how skilled someone is in gathering information and how many resources they have to minimize the risk as much as possible. Sports such as football, basketball or handball have three possible outcomes (1x2), while for example tennis has only (1 or 2), which means that in the first case there are three possible outcomes, and in the second only two.

If you play type 1, in the first case you have a 33% chance of winning, while the bookmaker has 66%, and in the second case the chances are 50-50. In the event that you combine several events, your chances drop drastically, while the bookmaker's chances increase significantly, so I would conclude that in that case we can already talk about classic gambling.

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April 16, 2023, 03:36:39 PM
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your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?
Football is indeed a bet based on predictions, analysis of the team, field conditions, players and also the condition of the players themselves. A lot happens in soccer betting where teams don't want to work with each other, which ends in losing.

Overall online casinos that provide sports betting always place bets on the strong football team at low stakes and high bets on the weak team, otherwise consider a draw.
Example:
1.1 x 1.2 x 3.5

This is in the sense of words, they know the team that will win, if they win they only pay a small amount to the bettor, so if someone places a bet on a weak team and loses, the online casino dealer will brush off your losing money.

For that sometimes it has also happened the other way around, but that rarely happens, roughly the conclusion leads as you say.

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April 16, 2023, 03:55:59 PM
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but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?
Not exactly. Your bet is on the game's result, what doesn't necessarily mean the most skilled team is going to win, since luck is also a decisive factor in sports matches. Let's say team A control the whole game (more possession, shootings, free kicks), however it might take only one chance for team B to score a goal and keep it for the rest of the game.

So even if you are a specialist on sports, more specifically soccer, there are still chances you are going to predict it wrongly.

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Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.

Sports betting is generally preferred for this reason. Honestly, that's why I prefer sports betting more. But sports competitions do not always have predictable results. In my opinion, they are fun for us because we think they are predictable. For example, when you look at a match, look at the past matches of the opponents and the last performance of the team, everything seems to be very easy. But if everything was that easy, we'd all be rich now. I think what makes sports betting attractive is that we think we can predict them. Cheesy

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What you say is right. But both playing in online casinos and sports betting can make you lose. You lose at casino games because you don't have luck. And you also lose at sports betting because your analysis is inaccurate or you don't get enough information about team selection. But if your prediction in choosing the team to compete with is correct, you can win, depending on your analysis. But in casino games, you lose if luck doesn't come your way.

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Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.

Sports betting is generally preferred for this reason. Honestly, that's why I prefer sports betting more. But sports competitions do not always have predictable results. In my opinion, they are fun for us because we think they are predictable. For example, when you look at a match, look at the past matches of the opponents and the last performance of the team, everything seems to be very easy. But if everything was that easy, we'd all be rich now. I think what makes sports betting attractive is that we think we can predict them. Cheesy
More precisely, we can predict it but that prediction does not guarantee us victory. You are right, we can see from the results of the matches they have played throughout the season, or also how the meeting record of the two teams that will compete. We can see from the quality of the players they have and how the performance of each position on the field is for us to compare with our opponents who make conclusions later on which club to bet on. But sometimes we only bet on the clubs we like without looking at their performance.
Looks easy indeed, but not as easy as what we imagine.

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April 16, 2023, 06:21:35 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong

I am not a football fan and any form of prediction is still a gamble to me, but I have gamble on few different online casinos and I believe that gamblers on casinos gambles with the casino games, meaning it's between the gambler and the casino, but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?

This makes it more cleaner to me, there will be no tampering of the system or fine tunning their games to make gamblers loses more than they win.

Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.

It should be logically like that, we have to fight the system in gambling by betting on football teams everywhere, I also feel that I am not being played by the system that is set up in casinos like we bet to win and draw on one team and that will be an advantage clean because the match runs without using the system that was set before and is currently playing on the field, but it turns out that on the field there are still some matches that can be manipulated to make crazier profits than losing money in the casino, I'm sure it's among us in big football matches with high stakes.
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Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.

Sports betting is generally preferred for this reason. Honestly, that's why I prefer sports betting more. But sports competitions do not always have predictable results. In my opinion, they are fun for us because we think they are predictable. For example, when you look at a match, look at the past matches of the opponents and the last performance of the team, everything seems to be very easy. But if everything was that easy, we'd all be rich now. I think what makes sports betting attractive is that we think we can predict them. Cheesy
The first thing that makes sports betting interesting is because you can simultaneously watch the ongoing match and you definitely have a team that you really like so that it will cause you to be proud if you manage to bet on a team you are proud of and win.

If you say sports betting to be honest I'm still not too sure because there were several sports matches and there were acts of manipulation.

Predicting the outcome of a sports match is also not as easy as we might imagine because many match results don't make sense.
But predicting the most effective sports match is by watching it for at least half a new game, we can see which team's strength will be able to become the winner.

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April 16, 2023, 06:29:29 PM
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Gambling has many different types and tactics. The bottom line is that you actually only win your betting cap if your chosen team has also won. In other results you lose. But if you are a novice gambler, there are a lot of online books that you can read and there are also a lot of websites where you can consult information to see how you want to gamble. I think my advice is to take it easy in the beginning and certainly not to play with large limits. And also consider whether you want to gamble in a casino or bet on sports competitions.

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