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April 16, 2023, 10:07:37 AM
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I hear a lot of voices saying that BTC's price will go through the roof when the monetary system goes down.
I've heard predictions of BTC going 4x in 2024. Others say 33x in years to come.

Is there any estimated guess on how high Ethereum can go?
While the growth of BTC depends on the loss of confidence in regular currencies (dollar, euro..) it seems that the growth of ETH is not dependent on this.
I often hear people talk about BTC value explosion, while it seems that growth of ETH price is more gradual and linear. So basically a lower expected return on investment.

Also, after BTC surviving for more than 10 years and not even the Chinese government being able to stop it, I am quite confident it can not be stopped.
But can ETH somehow be stopped? Confiscated or devalued when exchanges are attacked

The investment I can afford right now is 1 BTC and 1 ETH.
I barely have fixed costs for the next 2 years so I can slowly stack up.
But I don't know if the same amount is better invested in let's say 0.5 BTC and 5 ETH. That will depend on growth potential and safety
Also if the government somehow finds a way to attack BTC, owning 5 ETH can compensate for the other investment that didn't work out.
I would like to diversify, but don't find many suited options to diversify in.
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April 16, 2023, 11:55:58 AM
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The philosophy of investing in Ethereum is that the money that flows into Bitcoin and when there is not much volatility, a lot of that money goes to alternative currencies in an attempt to make a quick profit.
always when Bitcoin rises, and after several hours have passed, there will be a parallel rise of Bitcoin, and it is rarely higher than Bitcoin.
Therefore, expert traders are the only ones who benefit from this.
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April 16, 2023, 12:37:36 PM
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I barely have fixed costs for the next 2 years so I can slowly stack up.
But I don't know if the same amount is better invested in let's say 0.5 BTC and 5 ETH. That will depend on growth potential and safety
Also if the government somehow finds a way to attack BTC, owning 5 ETH can compensate for the other investment that didn't work out.
I would like to diversify, but don't find many suited options to diversify in.
You can always buy a portion of Bitcoin or Ethereum or even other cryptocurrencies.
For me, it's not a good thing to compare Ethereum and Bitcoin for now because they work differently, and about an investment opportunity, yes, diversifying portfolios sometimes is good but it will not be guaranteed.
Let's say if you check the all-time high of both Ethereum and Bitcoin, and compare it to the current prices of these two, you will see that the percentage of ROI for Ethereum is higher if we will go back to allt-time high prices.

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April 16, 2023, 01:46:47 PM
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Let's say if you check the all-time high of both Ethereum and Bitcoin, and compare it to the current prices of these two, you will see that the percentage of ROI for Ethereum is higher if we will go back to allt-time high prices.

How does comparing to the all time high say something about future potential?

I don't think governments can kill BTC. Many people are positive about ETH but I am not sure that it is guaranteed to stay. I've often read that it will end up being replaced by better technology.
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April 16, 2023, 01:59:07 PM
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I hear a lot of voices saying that BTC's price will go through the roof when the monetary system goes down.
I've heard predictions of BTC going 4x in 2024. Others say 33x in years to come.
Is there any estimated guess on how high Ethereum can go?

I am not really a crypto expert but if you ask me then i would say that in terms of future growth potential, then i think that ETH has still more room to grow than Bitcoin. The reason for my opinion is quite simple. Bitcoin already did a x30000 or even more since it's very early days. Ethereum on the other also already did around a x7000 based on it's ico price. So there is still a factor of 4 between them at the moment.
That fact alone though does not necessarily mean though that ETH will really grow more in the future than BTC because Bitcoin still is and probably always will be the big lead indicator for the whole crypto space. So it is also possible in my opinion that BTC will outperform most of the altcoins in the future. It is really hard to tell.
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April 16, 2023, 04:58:03 PM
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The philosophy of investing in Ethereum is that the money that flows into Bitcoin and when there is not much volatility, a lot of that money goes to alternative currencies in an attempt to make a quick profit.
always when Bitcoin rises, and after several hours have passed, there will be a parallel rise of Bitcoin, and it is rarely higher than Bitcoin.
Therefore, expert traders are the only ones who benefit from this.
Money flows into Bitcoin, then the search for cryptocurrencies increases creating more demand, so developers from this industry launch their own tokens to profit from the hype. Since they prefer using an existing chain (which is simpler and faster), they go for ETH, which is the most popular one. So we see Ethereum maintaining its status on crypto universe on the top 2.

The only way ETH could be overcome would be through the popularization of another chain. Many have already tried, but none have achieved surpassing Ethereum so far.

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April 16, 2023, 05:11:54 PM
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No one will ever reliably tell you how much this or that asset will be worth in 2-3 years. It's all coffee grounds guessing, all these forecasts and predictions are just our thoughts out loud, a reflection of our desires, how we want to see the situation in the future. There is little correlation between these predictions and current reality. Everything will depend on the actions of regulators and major holders of ETH, if the situation will turn in such a way, that it will become unprofitable to keep your assets in this coin, it can fall down, despite all most authoritative forecasts of major market players.

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April 16, 2023, 05:17:37 PM
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when talking about the potential of Bitcoin and Ethereum, of course Ethereum has far more potential than Bitcoin,
yes because the price of Bitcoin might break $100k but the ROI is higher if you look at the potential of Ethereum which might reach $10k,
considering the current price of Ethereum still at $2000, next bullish Ethereum will be even bigger.

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In addition to what everyone has said, bitcoin vs ethereum run on a parallel pattern in the sense that Bitcoin is the sole propeller of the entire cryptocurrency market,  whenever there is a significant rise in the price of Bitcoin. There will be a corresponding reflection of that raise in the ethereum and some of the altcoins the price reflection is a natural phenomenon in the entire market and as the expected bitcoin halving is booked for 2024 it becomes important that we should expect a raise in the market but this all depends on other factors that affect the market such as regulation and other market attacks that may force the price to remain down. But if all things are equal the price will rise significantly after the halving and that will also reflect on the ethereum price. But we are not certain of the amount of ethereum be but I am sure we may see far above $3k-$4k ETH price in 2024-2025 as ethereuem has made every network correction that will allow its network to remain stable during such bull run time, as we all know the challenges ethereuem users face whenever there is a significantly high price the network is always slow and high gas fees but with the Ethereum 2.0 That challenges were part of what was fixed but I don't know how effective the Ethereum networks migration have been since I have not transacted in Ethereum for a long time now.



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April 16, 2023, 05:44:55 PM
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when talking about the potential of Bitcoin and Ethereum, of course Ethereum has far more potential than Bitcoin,
yes because the price of Bitcoin might break $100k but the ROI is higher if you look at the potential of Ethereum which might reach $10k,
considering the current price of Ethereum still at $2000, next bullish Ethereum will be even bigger.

I've heard predictions of a million dollar BTC, or even 10 million in case of hyperinflation.
100k is the expected 4x by 2024. By countless famous hedge fund managers.

I haven't heard famous people expecting ETH to outperform that price prediction.
It seems to me that many people expect ETH to be replaced by better tech in the future (I head that HBAR is better, faster - cheaper - more energy efficient). ETH is  more popular now but that is not a given for the future. I've heard nobody giving any solid argument for BTC being replaced by anything else.

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April 16, 2023, 05:47:40 PM
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While the growth of BTC depends on the loss of confidence in regular currencies (dollar, euro..) it seems that the growth of ETH is not dependent on this.

Bitcoin gain is not specifically tied to the loss of confidence in FIAT, but on the other hand, Bitcoin and Ethereum market prices are indeed correlated.


Also, after BTC surviving for more than 10 years and not even the Chinese government being able to stop it, I am quite confident it can not be stopped.
But can ETH somehow be stopped? Confiscated or devalued when exchanges are attacked

The current ecosystem of how Bitcoin works makes decentralization in its firm state. Running a Bitcoin node does not require monstrous hardware, miners are diversified, and plenty of developers. The pillar of decentralization is intact. Regarding Ethereum, it recently switch to PoS. Additionally, the majority of ETH users are connecting to the blockchain using a third party. This kind of trait surely increases the centralization exposure and risks.
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April 16, 2023, 06:26:36 PM
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Bitcoin gain is not specifically tied to the loss of confidence in FIAT

Well I am looking to invest in crypto because my savings account of my regular bank gets evaporated by the inflation.
Banks offer a 2% rate on savings accounts while the real inflation is something like 10% per year. It can not even be tamed by the federal reserve raising intrest rates.

Fiat is dying. So people look for alternatives.
BTC speaks to my mind because it is somewhat out of government control. I do have a lot to learn for that matter.

I expect Binance and Coinbase to be taken down via lawsuits in the near future.
But I do not have the technical knowledge to understand if this somehow makes it impossible to buy BTC. Other exchanges in crypto friendly countries may still operate. Or people may find other ways to get their hands on BTC.

What do you expect to happen to BTC when governments manage to close the top 5 exchanges in the world?
It will bring down adoption. But will it kill it? And if so, is that forever or will people find a new way to get their hands on BTC?
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April 16, 2023, 06:45:04 PM
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I see people that are ETH maximalists and claiming that ETH has gained more than bitcoin. I won't contest anything to them and if that's a fact then so be it but I hold both and I've gained more with bitcoin.

Also, after BTC surviving for more than 10 years and not even the Chinese government being able to stop it, I am quite confident it can not be stopped.
But can ETH somehow be stopped? Confiscated or devalued when exchanges are attacked
As of now, it can be said as a yes.

But what's difficult on the altcoins market, you'll never know if another altcoin is about to emerge and we all know the fact that no altcoin can be at BTC's current situation because it's there to last indefinitely.

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April 16, 2023, 07:26:06 PM
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Unlike many new entrants to this market, over time I have come to realize that my investment is trying to increase the amount of BTC and ETH held, not the issue that their prices will increase. how to grow in the future. To me BTC or ETH are both great investments, and I don't have too much of a problem choosing which is more important.
So I recommend OP try to own them for a long time and see this market as a long term savings channel that you can absolutely trust, remember this if you are patient enough with This market you will get really valuable stuff.
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Cryptography is still in use today, and since BTC's anonymity differs from ETH despite the hype, it is highly unlikely that BTC will become completely unusable in the near future. BTC has survived to this point despite being attacked by numerous nations with various regulations. which is provided is really high, and the potential provided is also extremely encouraging, but ETH can be closed because its owner is still present.
And when it comes to the prospective future of BTC and ETH thus far, it is still extremely safe and may continue until the end of the year with rates that will continue to grow to commemorate 4 years in cryptocurrency.

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Also, after BTC surviving for more than 10 years and not even the Chinese government being able to stop it, I am quite confident it can not be stopped.
But can ETH somehow be stopped? Confiscated or devalued when exchanges are attacked
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Eth has even less changes of being stopped imho. They can technically always start to weed out mining facilities and ban those, like they did in China, but it will be harder to prevent people from staking.
Cryptos being confiscated is a whole another issue and it doesn't need any kind of attack. Basically they can already do that and people running CEXes are complying with authorities. So anyone in a black list technically should get their accounts frozen.

What it comes to growth potential, it's anyone's guess, both of them have potential and great arguments for and against, but if i had to choose, i would say eth has more potential to grow.

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Actually with the current conditions I still can't accept when comparing ETH with BTC because of course this still can't be compared but when it comes to Investment both of them are clearly still possible but the order is still BTC first and when there are other options and your money is still left then when you try something the new one is of course the most appropriate ETH for altcoins but when it comes to comparisons I wouldn't do that because BTC will still be hard to beat and ETH just follows from behind.

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April 16, 2023, 09:09:07 PM
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How does comparing to the all time high say something about future potential?
I don't think governments can kill BTC. Many people are positive about ETH but I am not sure that it is guaranteed to stay. I've often read that it will end up being replaced by better technology.

Bitcoin has proven itself not to need any development just to stay in the crypto market and it's not only stayed there throughout the years but it is the top cryptocurrency in circulation as well because of the trust and investors' hope based on its past history. That's what makes bitcoins unique to the other cryptocurrencies, it has a positive history. As for the ETH, it needs multiple developments and updates just to keep holding on and you're right, as the competition goes tight almost every day, there's no guarantee for it to hold forever and that's not the case for Bitcoin anyway.
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They are both ok for long term investment and there’s no need for comparison because even if there’s no development with BTC, you can still see its value growing over time, probably halving is the biggest update every 4 years. ETH is growing more because of its continues development and by the good projects using its blockchain, I see this two to be more expensive in the next bull trend, I’d rather have this two than to have any shitcoin in my wallet, I know this can be good.

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April 16, 2023, 10:51:31 PM
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Both are good for long term holding simply because potential are obvious; large market cap, large volume, large chain and the likes. Above other cryptocurrencies these two, I believe, are the ones which shows an assured lomg term progress and growth in terms of their market value.
How does comparing to the all time high say something about future potential?
I don't think governments can kill BTC. Many people are positive about ETH but I am not sure that it is guaranteed to stay. I've often read that it will end up being replaced by better technology.

Bitcoin has proven itself not to need any development just to stay in the crypto market and it's not only stayed there throughout the years but it is the top cryptocurrency in circulation as well because of the trust and investors' hope based on its past history. That's what makes bitcoins unique to the other cryptocurrencies, it has a positive history. As for the ETH, it needs multiple developments and updates just to keep holding on and you're right, as the competition goes tight almost every day, there's no guarantee for it to hold forever and that's not the case for Bitcoin anyway.
Actually there are and there will always be room for improvement to anything or everything. In terms of Bitcoin, transaction fees are still high and can still be lowered by means of impprovement. Also to add, delays on transactions because payment undergoes to chains, basically.

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