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April 17, 2023, 11:41:50 PM
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For me, it's simple the signs that I think we are dealing with frauds or scammers is to check the reviews about him or if you deal with a newbie with no trust history and he keeps avoiding of using escrow then he is a scammer. Another thing is if you receive an unexpected offer from the scammer and promise that you can make a huge profit that's a scam.
Actually, there are many signs that is why always keep research first and ask someone trusted before dealing with someone that's the only way to ensure you are dealing with a trusted person.

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April 17, 2023, 11:58:05 PM
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It will not work with a simple if-else situation. It needs a proper analysis of a person and what they are targeting to get out of you.
There are new sorts of scams out there every single day and it is really important to understand some basic concepts when dealing with people over the Internet.

If we are talking about doing a trade of cryptocurrency which requires you to send them crypto and receive an item, I would first look at their feedback from other people whom they have already traded with and would love to get a vouch from them. I will simply never go first in any deal until and unless there are people who are willing to pay you If things go wrong.

Dealing with a scam business is way different than dealing with an individual, however, a similar approach could be taken to avoid getting scammed.

I am sure a scammer will always message you first unless you are going out to get scammed yourself.
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April 18, 2023, 05:47:50 AM
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So my simple question is this, in your experience, what are the red flags and tell tale signs that the person you are dealing with is a scammer/fraudster.
Most fraudsters often use tactics to convince people without providing verifiable historical evidence. That's why we are always careful in making transactions or interactions with people we don't know.

Studying someone's background is an important step in ensuring their trustworthiness and credibility. However, in the digital age, sometimes this information is not always easy to find or verify. There are many different forms of fraud and the signs of fraud can vary depending on the situation and the type of fraud that is occurring. There are some common signs of fraud that I know of.

  • Requesting personal information: Fraudsters may ask for your personal information such as credit card numbers or bank account numbers. A good person will not ask for your personal information.
  • Fake or phishing websites: Fraudsters can create fake websites that mimic legitimate websites to ask for your personal information or steal your personal information.
  • Fake investment: Fraudsters can offer fake investments that promise huge returns in a short time. However, the investment actually does not exist or does not generate the promised profit.

So, apart from these signs, it is also important to watch out for other signs of fraud and always check the legitimacy of the information received before providing personal information or making any financial transactions. If something doesn't reassure you, trust your instincts. Feel free to decline the offer or stop the interaction if you feel uncomfortable.
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April 18, 2023, 07:11:54 AM
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First, you need to ask yourself how the scammer can contact you. Do you have contacts on Telegram or another messenger in the public domain? Do you have social networks that you have been running for a very long time and post a lot of information on there? By having social networks in your name and posting photos of yourself, your children, your home, and even a dog on them, you provide additional information that a scammer can later use, having studied your preferences and gaining even more trust from you.
In fact, you will never become vulnerable if you go online without expecting any contact from there. You don't need the ability to spot scammers if you proactively reject and distrust everyone who tries to contact you.
If you still believe in miracles and think someone will share their million with you, then know that scammers will do everything to one day talk you out of this by deceiving you and teaching you a lesson.

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April 18, 2023, 10:48:51 AM
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If he insisting to talk about your money and keep askinh question about it then youll definitely dealing with scammer and fraudsters. Usually they are lurking on telegram and social media like facebook. They will impersonate legit users with decent social profile and will started to lure you to a topic that will definitely caught you off guard.  Always much better to deal with the highly reputable or known people with a lots of feedback.

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April 18, 2023, 02:21:06 PM
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So my simple question is this, in your experience, what are the red flags and tell tale signs that the person you are dealing with is a scammer/fraudster.
each scammer will have different signs that the person you are dealing with is a scammer. here's a great thread(that was created by Crypto Library) to analyse and find what signs/red flags you can look for when dealing with a scammer.

in the thread that I shared, you'll notice that the scammer asked for a favour out of nowhere, and he was asked to verify who he is, he gave a lame excuse so he won't need to confirm his identity. also, he brought his "colleague" to try and make Crypto Library feel pressured about the situation and when the "colleague" start telling about his situation he is trying to guilt trip Crypto Library into sending them the money.

the red flags you can find in this incident are the sudden asking for a favour that involves money, the giving a lame excuse to verify his identity, the trying to pressure Crypto Library by bringing in his colleague and trying to guilt trip Crypto Library with a sob story.

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April 18, 2023, 03:43:09 PM
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If he insisting to talk about your money and keep askinh question about it then youll definitely dealing with scammer and fraudsters. Usually they are lurking on telegram and social media like facebook. They will impersonate legit users with decent social profile and will started to lure you to a topic that will definitely caught you off guard.  Always much better to deal with the highly reputable or known people with a lots of feedback.

Also watch out for people who don't know your full name or address, but they act like they do, like they're from bank's support or the government. This is a very common phishing scam where they contact you about your account in their bank and they want more information like your account number, user number, they make mistakes on purpose waiting for you to correct them.
If your name is john, they'll ask if they're speaking with Jim or someone from his family and you'll say that your name is not Jim but John - it's already going good for them.

I never talk to people who call me with an offer or mail me stuff. It always leads to a scam. If someone pretends to be the police it's the same. The police will never call you like that, they'll either send you traditional mail or come in person.
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April 18, 2023, 04:24:32 PM
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I never talk to people who call me with an offer or mail me stuff. It always leads to a scam. If someone pretends to be the police it's the same. The police will never call you like that, they'll either send you traditional mail or come in person.
Thats typical when someone is impersonating any kind of bigger people like banks and telling you did a mistake and you need to give any important details will likely a scam. No one will ever ask from them about personal stuff it does only mean that they are scammers trying to phish you or get some info and eventually will use for their scam activity.

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April 18, 2023, 05:11:21 PM
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If he insisting to talk about your money and keep askinh question about it then youll definitely dealing with scammer and fraudsters. Usually they are lurking on telegram and social media like facebook. They will impersonate legit users with decent social profile and will started to lure you to a topic that will definitely caught you off guard.  Always much better to deal with the highly reputable or known people with a lots of feedback.
I tend to say that it is very important to know what the motive is behind it all. It's rare to find someone who immediately asks about money in the first chat because they tend to get involved in the conversation and ask many questions. But what's the point of responding to them? I think we just need to ignore them as much as possible especially if they are not people we know.

It's also important to consider trusted escrow rather than single user in good reputation. This is only part of how one gets good security in fulfilling transactions between strangers. So escrow is also important to be involved even though we transact with trusted users, especially in large-scale trading.

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April 18, 2023, 05:26:51 PM
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Scammers/fraudsters employ all kinds of strategies and its not a one shoe fits all kind of scenario to protect your self !

And one thing I have believed that has kept me off their net is ,if you are looking for something you atleast need to be the first to engage a seller and not the seller sending you offers and the alike...this is as good as fish following the fisherman when fact of the matter is the fisherman goes to the river to fish for fish.
Btw you know what they say, if the deal is to good to be true, the it probably is it.
And in todays digital age I think most users are informed
On how to protect ourselves online, we should make it a habit to always use safety measures such as escrow..
Whch could be a small extra cost but it will protect you 99% of the time.

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April 18, 2023, 06:43:50 PM
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Someone that you don't know in person, and no one recommended the person for you and you just met the person online. It is safe to assume he's a scammer.
Once in conversation with as scammer and they introduced an investment opportunity to you. They would always want to put you under duress, such that you will not have time to communicate with any other person.
They do this by giving you a limited amount of time for the business to be done. And that is a very genuine sign to know that the person is a scammer.
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April 18, 2023, 08:29:30 PM
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Now more than ever there is a scam everywhere you look...what are the red flags and tell tale signs that the person you are dealing with is a scammer/fraudster.
You are totally right about hacking or vulnerable attacks. I have also seen many of my community members complaining (by sharing), how their wallets got hacked and they lost money plus there is one community member AnonBitcoiner who has shared his/her complete story, "GETINTOPC BIGGEST SCAM SITE". These problems need great attention. Like only in 2022, almost $1.4 billion dollars have been stolen. To circumvent these problems we have to think before doing any action.

Because hacking and falling prey to scammers are two different things. When a spammer or fraudster tries to phish you with outstanding offers, you should think first and search about such offers on the internet and should seek help from different platforms, and forums, and should try to search the main keywords of that offers on Google, or any search engine, this will get you everything on that keyword even the reviews of other peoples if there any.

If an attacker hacks into your device without your permission then it's a totally different scenario than spamming because you are not aiding in the hacking attempt instead hacker has broke into your device. Now, what you should have there is a dog at home when someone broke into it, or maybe an alarm system. The same alarm system can be implemented in your devices so that when a hacker tries to get some file without your knowledge, you get a suspicious activity notification from it. There are many software providing these services. such as canary tokens, etc. Actually, this technique is known as "honeypot" security. What is it and how we can make a honey pot? These are terms you should be familiar with.

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what are the red flags and tell tale signs that the person you are dealing with is a scammer/fraudster.

It's about common sense... if the deal looks too good to be real then it's a fraud. That's how the internet works nowadays. Don't trust anyone, even in people that you trust in the real life because it can be an identity fraud. Anyone can be other people online. So, we need to forget about the trust factor online, and that's the only way to avoid getting scammed.

If someone asks you for money online you can be sure that's a 95% scam. And the smart way to avoid it is to block that contact, that's our only option.
Scammers are making things easier for us with their very appealing offers, and once we bite that, we will definitely fall on their traps. That is why we should never be too trusting especially people we met online, as online scamming has become rampant these days. And never fail to DYOR, that will give us an advantage to become smarter than scammers so we won’t fall easily as their victims.
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April 18, 2023, 09:54:42 PM
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Basically, a scam should not happen when an unknown person contacts you and offers you a great deal. a deal that you never thought about until then, or at least not to get involved yourself.
Personally, if I have time to talk, I usually try to catch the fraudster in a lie. This almost always happens easily, because he himself thought that he had already won my trust and that my suspiciousness was decreasing.

if it's about a job that might be interesting to me, but I'm not sure about its reliability, I usually prolong the final decision by a day or two. for scammers, this is often too long a period, because they have to change accounts, telegram usernames, etc... due to hiding from the previous victim.

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