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April 18, 2023, 03:10:34 PM
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Wallet security, a good choice of wallet is as important as privacy.
Regarding the wallet, I found two, namely software and hardware.
Then there are addresses starting with b1. Next there is an address starting with the number 1.

Please help me.
Welcome to the Bitcoin forum.
My advice, don't rush.

un_rank, mk4, TravelMug, UchihaSarada and lovesmayfamilis have provided links for you to read and other friends have also provided explanations that make it easier for you to get what you want.

To make it easier to dig into something the OP doesn't know about, I think discussing it on a local board might also help.
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April 20, 2023, 04:16:13 PM
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Welcome to the forum.

I would focus on the basics like just learning which wallet is which and what it is best used for. 

Personally, I recommend that new users start out with Blue wallet for your mobile wallet because I think it has the highest level of functionality for the average user. If you're looking for a desktop wallet with a high level of functionality, I would suggest using Sparrow wallet but it takes a little understanding to setup and use.

If you plan on using lightning for payments, I would suggest either Muun or Phoenix because they are both plug n play non-custodial wallets so you control your private keys but you don't have to manage channel liquidity.

This page might help point you in the right direction: What Is A Bitcoin Wallet?

Once you know what you want to do, choosing a wallet is much easier. Best of luck.

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April 21, 2023, 12:42:14 PM
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Hi. I'm Aprilio.
This is my first post.

I joined the bitcoin forum initiated by a meeting with one of the people who claimed to work as a miner.
He explained to me about bitcoin in general, what is bitcoin, what is the role of bitcoin in the future that made him pursue this activity.
For my reference, he said join the bitcoin forum (bitcointalk.org) to find out all things bitcoin.

A few days ago I registered here but only to open and read. I continued my search on google and found the bitcoin.org site.
On the bitcoin.org site I found some initial steps such as a wallet and what is bitcoin.

Wallet security, a good choice of wallet is as important as privacy.
Regarding the wallet, I found two, namely software and hardware.
Then there are addresses starting with b1. Next there is an address starting with the number 1.

Please help me.
Welcome to the Bitcoin community, Aprilio!

It's great that you're taking the time to research and learn about Bitcoin before diving in. Here are some answers to your questions:

Wallets: A Bitcoin wallet is used to store your private keys, which are necessary to access your Bitcoins. There are two main types of wallets: software and hardware.
Software wallets: These are wallets that are installed on your computer or smartphone. They are convenient to use, but they are also more vulnerable to hacking and malware attacks. Examples of software wallets include Electrum, Exodus, and Mycelium.

Hardware wallets: These are physical devices that store your private keys offline, making them less vulnerable to hacking. They are considered to be the most secure type of wallet. Examples of hardware wallets include Ledger, Trezor, and KeepKey.

Bitcoin addresses: A Bitcoin address is a string of letters and numbers that is used to send and receive Bitcoins. There are two main types of Bitcoin addresses:
Legacy addresses: These addresses start with the number 1. They are the original type of Bitcoin address and are still widely used.

SegWit addresses: These addresses start with the letters "bc1" or "tb1". They are a newer type of Bitcoin address that was introduced to improve transaction speed and reduce fees.

It's important to note that while some wallets may only support one type of address, most modern wallets should support both legacy and SegWit addresses.

When it comes to choosing a wallet and address, it's important to do your research and choose a reputable wallet provider. Additionally, you should always make sure to back up your wallet and keep your private keys secure

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April 24, 2023, 01:20:05 PM
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It's been a week since I've read almost all the different posts without any of the posts I've read making me dare to comment on them for fear of being misinterpreted. On average, all posts are only pleasantries apart from bitcoin technical posts.

Thank you so much lovesmayfamilis and everyone for coming to leave the conversation here.
I found the most valuable lesson that the wallet is an object that is important in storing bitcoins. Wallet security is very valuable even though once there is a wallet, bitcoins don't fill up automatically without buying and/or in other ways.

You are right lovesmayfamilis that this forum is full of information. I will always try to carry out your message.

The forum is full of information; rushing here will be a mistake. Try to study everything slowly and consistently.
Link for easy search - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276341.0

Now I decide to learn to focus and be consistent without rushing.

There is also a football discussion board here that can channel analysis as a hobby.

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April 24, 2023, 01:58:57 PM
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Wallet security, a good choice of wallet is as important as privacy.
Regarding the wallet, I found two, namely software and hardware.
Then there are addresses starting with b1. Next there is an address starting with the number 1.

Please help me.
Welcome to the forum, you are already in a forum where users are friendly and polite to members who have just joined. Some of the comments above have directed you to several references that can help you choose a wallet that is good and has a high level of security.
One thing I can suggest to you after being around the friendly people on the bitcoin.org forum, never get tired of reading. All the links that have been attached in some of the previous comments will be very useful for those of you who are studying Bitcoin and safe storage.

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April 24, 2023, 02:31:42 PM
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...

There is also a football discussion board here that can channel analysis as a hobby.

Although this is a forum about bitcoin, about cryptocurrencies, you can find a lot of discussion on various topics here. Not only about bitcoin, about football, but we also have political economy topics where we share experiences and skills in life as well as outside professions and business...We are very diverse. You don't have to rush, start slowly with everything, and you'll find the forum a great place, and you'll wish you knew about it sooner.

By the way, welcome to the forum.

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April 24, 2023, 02:44:23 PM
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I found the most valuable lesson that the wallet is an object that is important in storing bitcoins. Wallet security is very valuable even though once there is a wallet, bitcoins don't fill up automatically without buying and/or in other ways.
~snip~

Technically, we can say that there are several types of wallets, and they could be divided into three categories: desktop, mobile and hardware wallets. What is perhaps even more important is that most of these wallets enable non-custodial storage of key data (private keys) that actually serve us to access Bitcoin, which is always on the blockchain. Regarding security, many will say that hardware wallets are the most secure, but none of them are resistant to human stupidity and ignorance.

As for the statement "bitcoins don't fill up automatically", you are absolutely right, and if you understand it in the right way, you will be able to avoid every scam that claims otherwise.

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April 24, 2023, 02:52:19 PM
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Wallet security, a good choice of wallet is as important as privacy.
Regarding the wallet, I found two, namely software and hardware.
Then there are addresses starting with b1. Next there is an address starting with the number 1.

Please help me.
Welcome to the forum, you are already in a forum where users are friendly and polite to members who have just joined. Some of the comments above have directed you to several references that can help you choose a wallet that is good and has a high level of security.
One thing I can suggest to you after being around the friendly people on the bitcoin.org forum, never get tired of reading. All the links that have been attached in some of the previous comments will be very useful for those of you who are studying Bitcoin and safe storage.
Thanks for you.
For almost a week I explored various boards and found lots of information that made me want to say that what you said about the people here is true.

From my journey this week on the forum, I saw your case in one of the topics. I think you should clarify the case because I found readings about prohibitions that are not allowed.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449784.msg62136570#msg62136570

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April 24, 2023, 11:17:36 PM
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OP, your question is not specific enough, but you are talking about wallets and security. There are some Bitcoin wallets with good security, so you can take a look.
[Tutorial] BlueWallet - Bitcoin Wallet Discussion

Also, while the hard-wear wallet is always on a separate device like a flash drive, the software wallet is usually an app for mobile or software for Windows. The Electrum wallet is good for Windows, while the Blue wallet is also good for mobile (you can see the above thread). For a hard-wearing wallet, you can go with the Ledger Nano and Trezor hardware wallets.

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what do you mean about them having the control to accept or not bitcoin? i believe that exchanges will add the bitcoin to your balance as long the address is correct.
the sad thing if using the exchanges is we can't have control of that address
What I meant the centralized exchange or wallet doesn't adopt segwit, native segwit and taproot. Let's say you've Bitcoin in your centralized exchange and you want to send into your non custodial wallet, you're prefer to receive it using native segwit because it's cheaper than legacy, even you've typed/pasted correct native segwit address, the exchange will give you warning message if the address you inputted are wrong or they will proceed it, but your coins will not arrive into your wallet, which mean your coins are gone.

You can check it in this site https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bech32_adoption

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Wallet security, a good choice of wallet is as important as privacy.
The security of the wallet is very important to pay attention to properly.
Never store assets on exchanges even though there are some exchanges that will guarantee returns when you lose due to hacking.
Choose an open source wallet. Do not choose a wallet based on ease of use but they do not maintain privacy or can sell our data.

Regarding the wallet, I found two, namely software and hardware.
Software or Hardware Wallet, visit bitcoin.org and find a good wallet there.
I wish you success in the forum.
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What I meant the centralized exchange or wallet doesn't adopt segwit, native segwit and taproot. Let's say you've Bitcoin in your centralized exchange and you want to send into your non custodial wallet, you're prefer to receive it using native segwit because it's cheaper than legacy, even you've typed/pasted correct native segwit address, the exchange will give you warning message if the address you inputted are wrong or they will proceed it, but your coins will not arrive into your wallet, which mean your coins are gone.

it's not about the adoption of Segwit that I ask it's about whether the exchange will add to our balance or not.
which I understand from your previous post and I believe we will always check our BTC address whenever we will withdraw our coins

Although Bitcoin addresses are different, but everyone must know if any format can receive and send to each other as long as you're use a non custodial wallet. If you use a custodial wallet or exchanges, they have a control to accept or not, depends on their development. All exchanges must be accept 1 (legacy) and 3 (segwit) address, most of exchanges already accept bc1q (native segwit), and only few exchanges are accept bc1p (taproot) address.


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it's not about the adoption of Segwit that I ask it's about whether the exchange will add to our balance or not.
which I understand from your previous post and I believe we will always check our BTC address whenever we will withdraw our coins

Although Bitcoin addresses are different, but everyone must know if any format can receive and send to each other as long as you're use a non custodial wallet. If you use a custodial wallet or exchanges, they have a control to accept or not, depends on their development. All exchanges must be accept 1 (legacy) and 3 (segwit) address, most of exchanges already accept bc1q (native segwit), and only few exchanges are accept bc1p (taproot) address.
This is why you need to read the full sentences rather than only focus about few words, it seems you're likely want to argue rather than accept the reality.

I was not saying if the exchange is really free to credited our coins to our balance or not without any reason. But I already said it was depends on the exchange if they already accept segwit or not.

AFAIK Kucoin still not allow you to withdraw Bitcoin using segwit network, I think you can try to withdraw your Bitcoin using Bitcoin network, but you use segwit address as the receipt address. Don't angry if your coins never credited to your wallet Cheesy

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May 01, 2023, 05:52:29 PM
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What I meant the centralized exchange or wallet doesn't adopt segwit, native segwit and taproot. Let's say you've Bitcoin in your centralized exchange and you want to send into your non custodial wallet, you're prefer to receive it using native segwit because it's cheaper than legacy, even you've typed/pasted correct native segwit address, the exchange will give you warning message if the address you inputted are wrong or they will proceed it, but your coins will not arrive into your wallet, which mean your coins are gone.

it's not about the adoption of Segwit that I ask it's about whether the exchange will add to our balance or not.
which I understand from your previous post and I believe we will always check our BTC address whenever we will withdraw our coins

Although Bitcoin addresses are different, but everyone must know if any format can receive and send to each other as long as you're use a non custodial wallet. If you use a custodial wallet or exchanges, they have a control to accept or not, depends on their development. All exchanges must be accept 1 (legacy) and 3 (segwit) address, most of exchanges already accept bc1q (native segwit), and only few exchanges are accept bc1p (taproot) address.
No need to argue. You just don't understand what was conveyed by Helena Yu, who explained several types of addresses with different formats and each centralized exchange also provides different types of addresses with different formats. That's more or less what I understand from Helena Yu explanation.

Maybe the help of each of our translation tools is different in detecting the letters we type if it's true that we use the help of Google Translate.

Yesterday I got a BTC asset theft case from a topic. The addresses that we use can be stolen by hackers. That's why security is very important because we are connected to the internet.
As soon as we are negligent, the criminal is not negligent in carrying out his actions.

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May 04, 2023, 01:57:06 AM
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AFAIK Kucoin still not allow you to withdraw Bitcoin using segwit network, I think you can try to withdraw your Bitcoin using Bitcoin network, but you use segwit address as the receipt address. Don't angry if your coins never credited to your wallet Cheesy
Bitcoin has many address types and transaction types.

Legacy, Native Segwit, Nested Segwit, Taproot are different address types. Transactions with those addresses will be all excecuted on Bitcoin network.

There is nothing like Segwit network, Legacy network or Taproot network. Your post spreads misleading and confusing information.

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There are currently three invoice address formats in use:

P2PKH which begin with the number 1, eg: 1BvBMSEYstWetqTFn5Au4m4GFg7xJaNVN2.
P2SH type starting with the number 3, eg: 3J98t1WpEZ73CNmQviecrnyiWrnqRhWNLy.
Bech32 type starting with bc1, eg: bc1qar0srrr7xfkvy5l643lydnw9re59gtzzwf5mdq.
Taproot is a newest Segwit type, Bech32m type starting with bc1p.

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May 14, 2023, 03:24:42 PM
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I found the most valuable lesson that the wallet is an object that is important in storing bitcoins. Wallet security is very valuable even though once there is a wallet, bitcoins don't fill up automatically without buying and/or in other ways.
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As for the statement "bitcoins don't fill up automatically", you are absolutely right, and if you understand it in the right way, you will be able to avoid every scam that claims otherwise.
Thank you Lucius.
Many valuable new findings that I want since I was present in the forum. It wouldn't be wrong if I tried to find out about wallets and their security.
In the next few days I will be doing a sign message using Electrum which I learned a lot from the local board to prove that the bitcoin address is mine.

Technically, in using software and hardware wallets, what I need is a way to secure it properly so that I don't let my guard down in the midst of my limitations as a human being.

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May 14, 2023, 07:03:29 PM
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Wallet security, a good choice of wallet is as important as privacy.
Regarding the wallet, I found two, namely software and hardware.
Then there are addresses starting with b1. Next there is an address starting with the number 1.

Please help me.

What kind of help do you need?
Ask some specific questions about what interests you and what is not clear to you. this way we can only guess and give extensive advice that you may not even understand.

If you are confused by addresses that start differently, don't worry, because they are all compatible with each other. A Bitcoin address can start with 1, 3 or bc and it doesn't matter which one you use, with the fact that users of Segwit (starting with 3 or bc) addresses pay a slightly lower fee compared to users of legacy addresses (starting with 1).

The most common classification is software and hardware wallets, although that is also a bit more complex. A hardware wallet is certainly safer to use, but you have to pay for it.

For more information, that not all of addresses are fully compatible to every platforms. Thay's why you should choose compatible address when you want to send or move your bitcoin's balance. most people prefer to use segwit address format which started with "bc1....." address because it has lower transaction fees.

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