BTC vs physical gold price potential

[kro55]

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 but btc has a very high risk because the price is unstable. so many people also lose from investing in btc.
so investing in btc can be potentially big profits and can be potentially big losses.

but I personally prefer btc for investment, because in my opinion the price of btc in the future will be higher compared to gold.

Called investment means there will be profit or loss. Many gold investors also lose, not only bitcoin causes losses. All are tools for us to invest, and the profit and loss depend entirely on each person's ability, you can't blame bitcoin if your investment loses. Bitcoin is highly volatile, so the risk is higher, but in return, you will get a much higher return than gold. And that is also the reason many people prefer to invest in bitcoin over gold.
I don't like to compare the two because I'm investing in both, I'd rather diversify my investment than focus on just one. Both are good and worth the investment.

[thecodebear]

I feel like there is one obvious answer to this debate. Old/traditional investors can't give up Gold. Its the most well known investing method in history. Its physicality means its very convincing. When I argued with family member about finances lately, she told me she can buy cut Gold - worths a lot - instead of buying gold certificates directly. Bitcoin doesn't have this luxury. And Bitcoin investors are mostly between 18-30 or 35. Very young people indeed. So its gonna take very long for Bitcoin to capture high market cap.

Old people die everyday and young people who understand technology are starting their careers everyday. Time is on our side. It'll be a gradual shift over the course of a generation as old gold bugs die off and young people who have no use for gold but understand the immense value in Bitcoin not only buy Bitcoin instead of Gold but perhaps sell any gold they inherited to buy Bitcoin.


Side note: I think you are overestimating the youth of Bitcoiners. 18 year olds don't have money to buy bitcoin, and don't forget Bitcoin has been around for well over a decade now. Main age range of Bitcoiners at this point is probably 25/30 - 45. But by the time those 18 year olds of today are like 25 or so and start to have money to invest Bitcoin will be a bit more mainstream and a lot of them are going to be buying Bitcoin while in the meantime a lot of old Gold bugs will have kicked the bucket.

[Reatim]

people buy gold because gold has been the oldest money since. we're attracted to shiny things. we rub it and stroke it and we keep pace. 

this is the old ways mate , in which most oldies believe but for the modern world in which we are now  in cashless society ? I'm afraid if still gold is our main interest in terms of investments or holding.

because the governments had already decided they'd launch CBDC, they will still be talking about USD or EUR despite that CBDC is the same as fiat that can effortlessly print money. they can easily tax BTC with the use of tracking using the CBDC wallet.

taxing bitcoin? is still a hard process to implement , I know that this is also what most government wanted but implementation ? will take another long.

[Patrol69]

Bitcoin doesn't really compare to gold. Because Bitcoin is a digital currency that has no real existence but gold is a real valuable thing that people can hold and touch and that has a real existence. 
However, although they are different in practical terms, people often compare them because the value of these two is very high and both are very valuable, one is digital value, the other is real value. People buy Bitcoin for profit just like gold but they mostly don't buy for profit. Because the price of Bitcoin is not as volatile as the price of gold. 

Gold is bought by people as a support of life but the main purpose of buying bitcoins is to earn profit from the purchased bitcoins. Considering two aspects, two are very valuable and people buy these two valuable things for two types of purposes.

[peter0425]

I feel like there is one obvious answer to this debate. Old/traditional investors can't give up Gold. Its the most well known investing method in history. Its physicality means its very convincing. When I argued with family member about finances lately, she told me she can buy cut Gold - worths a lot - instead of buying gold certificates directly. Bitcoin doesn't have this luxury. And Bitcoin investors are mostly between 18-30 or 35. Very young people indeed. So its gonna take very long for Bitcoin to capture high market cap.

and in gold they felt safer as they are the old investors who believe in what you see is what you believe and what you have in hands  is what you keep , but in our days now?
people are mostly  into  online apps and online payments in which ending up? a world that will use virtual money .
Gold will always remain as a keep safe while crypto is the daily use.

[Ayers]

I feel like there is one obvious answer to this debate. Old/traditional investors can't give up Gold. Its the most well known investing method in history. Its physicality means its very convincing. When I argued with family member about finances lately, she told me she can buy cut Gold - worths a lot - instead of buying gold certificates directly. Bitcoin doesn't have this luxury. And Bitcoin investors are mostly between 18-30 or 35. Very young people indeed. So its gonna take very long for Bitcoin to capture high market cap.

Old people die everyday and young people who understand technology are starting their careers everyday. Time is on our side. It'll be a gradual shift over the course of a generation as old gold bugs die off and young people who have no use for gold but understand the immense value in Bitcoin not only buy Bitcoin instead of Gold but perhaps sell any gold they inherited to buy Bitcoin.

Not only the older generation is investing in gold, but everyone still needs gold, simply because it is by far the most valuable metal. Countries still consider gold the most valuable asset to hold more than any other asset class, so it would be an illusion to say that gold will be phased out in the future. You and I and everyone here are favoring bitcoin over gold because its returns are better than gold. The stability of gold can't make you rich, but with bitcoin, you can get rich, that's all you and we are thinking.
If I had a lot of money, I would still hoard more gold instead of bitcoin, but since I don't have too much money right now, bitcoin is my choice because it can make me rich.

[Stella Mese]

from the past until now there are still many people who debate gold and btc and are still debating whether gold is good for investment or bitcoin.

I think btc is a digital currency that can't be touched
whereas gold is of course touchable.
I think gold and btc are valuable assets and should not be compared.

but I don't think we will be able to measure btc price in future because it could be btc price exceed 1000000$.

[WeThePe0ple]

but I don't think we will be able to measure btc price in future because it could be btc price exceed 1000000$.

It doesn't make sense to denominate BTC in dollars or euro because the amount just depends on how much central banks devalue those currencies by printing them with no counter value. For the same reason it does not make sense to denominate BTC in Venezuelan Bolivar. Their hyperinflation shows why it makes no sense to denominate any hard assets in fiat. An egg costs 10 000 Bolivar there. Imagine what 1 BTC would be in Bolivar.

Banks are terrified of people leaving their monetary system because a liquidity crisis will cause them to default on investments, and eventually leads to a complete collapse of the monetary system. That is guaranteed to happen anyway, but people leaving their system escalates the velocity. Interestingly, a collapsing monetary system is exactly what their adversaries (BTC investors) want. Because it causes fiat money to flow into BTC, and so its value increases.

So a growing amount of people investing in BTC (number of accounts with 0.1 BTC is now at an all time high) combined with a trembling monetary system is a recipe for a perfect storm and will lead to a hyperbolic increase in the price of BTC. The only way banks can stop the entire collapse, is by using the law to prevent conversion of fiat to BTC. This is why I did not invest earlier. I always thought that this would happen earlier. The excuse of the government will be that investing in gold or BTC poses a systemic risk to the stability of the monetary system, and will therefore will be forbidden. But it seems that regardless of the law, people always find a way to invest money in BTC.

I predict that it will take less than 1 year before banks start an all out war on BTC. It reminds me of Nixon banning the conversion of fiat to gold in 1971. The elites will not allow society to convert their worthless paper (dollars, euro) into anything that has real value (gold, silver, bitcoin). They want to force us to hold these worthless papers, so we end up with nothing and they have all the power. By 2030 you will own nothing, said WEF founder Klaus Schwab recently. Well at least I will own bitcoin.

People say that investing in BTC is highly risky. I think that this is only true if you plan to get rich in the short term. In the long term I don't see any scenario other than BTC skyrocketing. Unless the government can scare all investors by giving them life sentences in prison. Keeping your money in a bank is far more dangerous. In fact I see no other scenario than it becoming totally worthless.

[notakarl]

Gold will always win.

[WeThePe0ple]

Gold will always win.

It will always have value, and whoever invests in it will not get crippled when the global financial system comes down.
But I'm not sure it is the most profitable investment. Silver is in high demand and it is currently undervalued.

I believe that bitcoin is the first digital store of value. Will it be the only one? I am not sure. For any other token to be a digital store of value, it would have to be limited in quantity and outside of government control. I don't think any of the altcoins qualify for that.

[Venik]

Gold will always win.

How and why? You should bring some arguments, otherwise, that looks like you don't know what are you talking about.

[Bazzu]

gold is a valuable item and very many people need gold because gold can usually be used for many things including electronics and so on.

but if our investing in gold, in my opinion, the profit will be small if the capital is small, but our can also get big profits if the capital is large.

but what I know about investing in BTC, even though investing with small capital can get big profits, as long as we are strong in holding BTC in the long term.

[Tony116]

Gold will always win.

It will always have value, and whoever invests in it will not get crippled when the global financial system comes down.
But I'm not sure it is the most profitable investment. Silver is in high demand and it is currently undervalued.

I believe that bitcoin is the first digital store of value. Will it be the only one? I am not sure. For any other token to be a digital store of value, it would have to be limited in quantity and outside of government control. I don't think any of the altcoins qualify for that.

Even if the demand for silver grows but still cannot overtake gold, gold will still be the most valuable metal unless the world discovers a better metal than gold. But to compare gold to bitcoin, I wouldn't see a winner, both have their own use cases.
But for investment, I would choose bitcoin because it offers higher returns, and it is much easier and more convenient to store assets in bitcoin than in gold. Bitcoin is a digital asset, more technologically advanced, so it will be more useful and have more use cases than gold in this day and age.

[dlightag]

The world are just gradually growing with the use of technology and making use of digital currency, which Bitcoin is a function of digital currency which cannot touch, but have the feeling of having it and spend it across the global market that can be converted to our local currency been credited to our Bank, which requires educational process towards Bitcoin business, in order words Gold is an asset someone can buy and hold physical for long periods of time, before selling it. And the security of Gold business is very high. I keep prefer holding Bitcoin than Gold, because Bitcoin is more secure and has rest of mind.

[Lucius]

I don't even know if it is safer to leave BTC on something like Binance or on a ledger, because both are attacked by hackers and by the government. That is hard to overcome.

Asking such a question shows that you lack elementary knowledge about what Bitcoin is and how to store it safely. It is pointless to compare any CEX with any non-custodial wallet, your private keys in your private possession only give you maximum security, of course if you know how to keep them properly.

I am currently checking out videos of ledger users and the amount of threats is ridiculous.
Thieves presenting themselves as Ledger staff. Address poisoning. Spam that results in a drained account if you click on it.
It never stops.

And if Ledger gets hacked again, everything is gone.

You are currently being brainwashed with cheap YT videos that obviously convinced you that someone hacked Ledger in the sense that they hacked Bitcoin, and it is actually about the database of those who bought that device. Stop talking nonsense and spreading panic, you'd better learn some basics before jumping to conclusions that have nothing to do with common sense.

[bayu7adi]

I believe that bitcoin is the first digital store of value. Will it be the only one? I am not sure. For any other token to be a digital store of value, it would have to be limited in quantity and outside of government control. I don't think any of the altcoins qualify for that.

A significant percentage of the world's population is still under government control. This condition makes anything that can be managed by the government valuable, and the public has no choice but to trust it. When the public believes that something is valuable, it leads to the culture desired by the government.

Gold has been around for a long time, and everyone believes that it is very valuable because of its beautiful physical appearance. Its value will not decrease because this metal is indeed very beautiful.

In comparison to Bitcoin, Gold appears to be more appealing at present due to its long-standing credibility. Bitcoin, being a relatively new entrant, warrants cautiousness among people who are hesitant to speculate on something that is not yet established.

[WeThePe0ple]

You are currently being brainwashed with cheap YT videos that obviously convinced you that someone hacked Ledger in the sense that they hacked Bitcoin, and it is actually about the database of those who bought that device. Stop talking nonsense and spreading panic, you'd better learn some basics before jumping to conclusions that have nothing to do with common sense.

I was looking for experiences of specific users. This guy lost 25 000 to address poisoning, which seems new and therefore could surprise more users like him.
Are you telling me that this did not happen in the authentic ledger live app? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNhzOQGyvfY&t=6s
My goal is to raise awareness, not to spread panic.

[Sorryfor]

The price of gold has increased significantly compared to Bitcoin in the current market. However, at one point the value of Bitcoin was double that of gold. When bitcoin was worth more than gold people started investing in bitcoin instead of investing in gold. But Bitcoin is a virtual currency, whose price fluctuates all the time. That's why once the market goes into a bear market and the Bitcoin market goes all the way down, the price of gold rises again. But I think there is a possibility that the value of bitcoin will double that of gold again in the future. Because when the bitcoin market starts pumping, the bitcoin market will go all the way higher and increase more than the price of gold. So I think investing in bitcoin instead of gold can make a lot of money in future.

[Lucius]

I was looking for experiences of specific users. This guy lost 25 000 to address poisoning, which seems new and therefore could surprise more users like him.
Are you telling me that this did not happen in the authentic ledger live app?
My goal is to raise awareness, not to spread panic.

This is not a hack like you are talking about in your previous posts, but a cheap trick that only the naive will fall for, and not even all the benefits of the hardware wallet will protect them from their own stupidity. That's why I wrote that you're brainwashing yourself by watching videos, and you don't understand the concept of "hacking" you're talking about at all, when in fact it's about simply exploiting human ignorance.

Neither Ledger as a device was hacked, nor their Ledger Live as an interface, nor does it have anything to do with Bitcoin - if you are interested in more, @Pmalek described what exactly it is about -> What are Address Poisoning Scams?

[traderethereum]

Before bitcoin, people tended to invest in gold.
But after there was bitcoin, people started investing in bitcoin, especially those who realized there was a technological change in the world and saw the potential of bitcoin.
I would also choose bitcoin and gold as investments because they both maintain a hedge of the asset.
So it's not surprising that people are still investing in gold because the price tends to be more stable than other investments.
But even so, bitcoin can also be a long-term investment option because the price of bitcoin can increase very much more than gold.
And lucky people who can own bitcoin and gold at the same time.