Your tips and tricks to orange pill your family and friends

[acroman08]

I guess that many of you have already tried to orange pill family or friends. Personally, I've totally given up on the idea.

Some people have asked me to invest a few hundred euros for them, in which case I would have to be their banker... They don't even want to know how to install a wallet or even buy a hardware wallet. In short, I refuse to be a banker.

And you, have you also given up? Or are you persevering with unstoppable tricks?

pushing an idea in someone's throat  is one of the best ways to make someone hate that Idea, if I were you, just let them be, there is no point pestering them  if they themselves are not interested in knowing/learning about Bitcoin. they would probably just become annoyed at you if you keep telling or as you say "orange pilling" them.

Your answer shows that you didn't read what I wrote at all, too bad I would have liked an answer to the subject in question. That said, you're not the only one talking about harassment or whatever, fortunately I got a link to a book that looks very interesting, that will at least make a constructive post in this thread ...

you said in your original post that "you've given up on that Idea" which gave me the idea that you've tried to "orange pill" them about Bitcoin several times(I could be totally wrong though), also, before this reply my understanding of "orange pill" is that it is a condescending/arrogant way of telling people about Bitcoin(which apparently is not, after looking more into it) and that is why I said the part on my post that you highlighted.

now, as for the "tips and tricks," I will still say that let them be if they themselves aren't interested in being "orange pilled", and I am adding that be open to them if they are the ones who asked and are interested in discussing Bitcoin.

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[Becassine]

Before this reply my understanding of "orange pill" is that it is a condescending/arrogant way of telling people about Bitcoin(which apparently is not, after looking more into it) and that is why I said the part on my post that you highlighted.

Very interesting remark. So it's just a question of vocabulary that has biased the interpretation. I thought "to orange pill" was a neutral expression.

Well otherwise to give an example:

You know your friend doesn't like cake very much. But you have a great recipe with special ingredients that are good for his health (in addition to the fact that it tastes great). So you make him the cake, and he is free to taste it or not, without any obligation.

That's more what I had in mind. As for those (few) who want to entrust me with a few hundred euros, it would be better if they learned themselves what Bitcoin is all about. I'm not interested in keeping other people's money, knowing that they might not even get it back if I die.

In short, there are almost two questions in one.

Thank you for explaining why I didn't understand all these strange answers.

[Plaguedeath]

You know your friend doesn't like cake very much. But you have a great recipe with special ingredients that are good for his health (in addition to the fact that it tastes great). So you make him the cake, and he is free to taste it or not, without any obligation.

Based on your example, you're already know the answer! You shouldn't be sad or mad when your friend doesn't want to taste your cake, as he was not ask you to make him a cake.

If you're still seek a way or trick to make him taste your cake, you're not respect his decision. You can't generalize anything is same, if you think it's good for you, other people can think it's not good for them.

[Becassine]

You know your friend doesn't like cake very much. But you have a great recipe with special ingredients that are good for his health (in addition to the fact that it tastes great). So you make him the cake, and he is free to taste it or not, without any obligation.

Based on your example, you're already know the answer! You shouldn't be sad or mad when your friend doesn't want to taste your cake, as he was not ask you to make him a cake.

If you're still seek a way or trick to make him taste your cake, you're not respect his decision. You can't generalize anything is same, if you think it's good for you, other people can think it's not good for them.

You are wrong. I cook pretty well and it is not impossible that he loves my cake (which I remind you is a special recipe good for his health, that is to say without sugar and bad ingredients).

My kids, when they were young, didn't want to eat vegetables, but a few tricks and they were done. Today they are in great shape (probably not only because of the vegetables, but also because of a good general diet).

I have nothing to gain personally by sharing what I know about bitcoin, but what the mainstream media is saying is usually wrong and focused only on the bear market or bull market. That's not what makes bitcoin interesting.

[CryptoPanda]

I guess that many of you have already tried to orange pill family or friends. Personally, I've totally given up on the idea.

Some people have asked me to invest a few hundred euros for them, in which case I would have to be their banker... They don't even want to know how to install a wallet or even buy a hardware wallet. In short, I refuse to be a banker.

And you, have you also given up? Or are you persevering with unstoppable tricks?

A wise man once said “You will never be able to give enough adequate explanation to a person that is already determined to misunderstand you”. It’s no use trying to convince people who do not want anything to do with bitcoin, you are likely to get a negative reaction. There is no perfect technique to the success of convincing newbies to get into bitcoin, it’s easier to convince a person that already has a positive attitude towards bitcoin.

[Findingnemo]

I guess that many of you have already tried to orange pill family or friends. Personally, I've totally given up on the idea.

Some people have asked me to invest a few hundred euros for them, in which case I would have to be their banker... They don't even want to know how to install a wallet or even buy a hardware wallet. In short, I refuse to be a banker.

And you, have you also given up? Or are you persevering with unstoppable tricks?

Actually I don't want them to, you may call myself selfish which is true somehow but the main reason is I don't want to mix up finance with relationship because it mostly will end up in bad situation so just let them what they do and if tou feel they are doing something wrong then you can give your suggestions about how to succeed from it but its their choice to decide what to do and we can't analyse or force someone to invest in something what we are interested.

[Jon_Hodl]

I don't have any tricks or special tactics aside from buying, hodling, working in creating new content, and waiting for the next bull run when they all come to me and ask me how they can buy some bitcoin. Unfortunately, they all end up buying the tip and not the dip (like they should) and they end up "losing money" but there are a few who are convicted enough to hodl through the turmoil and keep buying while the market dips and they end up in the black eventually.

I also really like these websites because it gives them something more tangible and teaches them about some of the more fundamental benefits of bitcoin. 

https://bitcoinorshit.com/ - This helps them to understand that if they didn't buy dumb shit, they could have a lot more wealth today.
https://storeoftime.com/ - This shows them that bitcoin stores the value of their time into the future better than anything else out there.
https://dcabtc.com/ - Anyone can backtest a simple purchase to see how much they would have today if they had just listened to me years ago. I often tell people "$10 per day for 10 years will change your life."
https://FiatMarketCap.com - when people tell me that Bitcoin will "never replace fiat currency" when in reality it already has a larger market cap than most fiat currencies in the world.
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/ - A useful tool to help people to understand how the value of our labor has been distorted ever since the US dollar was decoupled from gold in 1971.
https://observablehq.com/@jimbojw/wen-moon - A powerful tool to show people when you can "retire" from your bitcoin holdings based on how much they have in relation fiat depreciation and bitcoin appreciation.

I also link them to a lot of valuable articles and content on how they can easily and practically save in bitcoin. Aside from all of that, I jut stack, hodl, build, and wait.

[Becassine]

I don't have any tricks or special tactics aside from buying, hodling, working in creating new content, and waiting for the next bull run when they all come to me and ask me how they can buy some bitcoin. Unfortunately, they all end up buying the tip and not the dip (like they should) and they end up "losing money" but there are a few who are convicted enough to hodl through the turmoil and keep buying while the market dips and they end up in the black eventually.

I also really like these websites because it gives them something more tangible and teaches them about some of the more fundamental benefits of bitcoin. 

https://bitcoinorshit.com/ - This helps them to understand that if they didn't buy dumb shit, they could have a lot more wealth today.
https://storeoftime.com/ - This shows them that bitcoin stores the value of their time into the future better than anything else out there.
https://dcabtc.com/ - Anyone can backtest a simple purchase to see how much they would have today if they had just listened to me years ago. I often tell people "$10 per day for 10 years will change your life."
https://FiatMarketCap.com - when people tell me that Bitcoin will "never replace fiat currency" when in reality it already has a larger market cap than most fiat currencies in the world.
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/ - A useful tool to help people to understand how the value of our labor has been distorted ever since the US dollar was decoupled from gold in 1971.
https://observablehq.com/@jimbojw/wen-moon - A powerful tool to show people when you can "retire" from your bitcoin holdings based on how much they have in relation fiat depreciation and bitcoin appreciation.

I also link them to a lot of valuable articles and content on how they can easily and practically save in bitcoin. Aside from all of that, I jut stack, hodl, build, and wait.

Génial merci beaucoup 

[justdimin]

Actually I don't want them to, you may call myself selfish which is true somehow but the main reason is I don't want to mix up finance with relationship because it mostly will end up in bad situation so just let them what they do and if tou feel they are doing something wrong then you can give your suggestions about how to succeed from it but its their choice to decide what to do and we can't analyse or force someone to invest in something what we are interested.

That is not a bad reflection on life though, I would agree with that. If you put finance and relations together, the relations would get damaged when finances are damaged. If you take money from your friends, even if they begged you to do it, then when you put it in bitcoin you will end up being upset that you lost money, even if they say nothing it will feel bad.

I did it for a family member, they wanted to put a small amount, an amount I could just give them even if all of it was gone, but when they lost it I felt terrible, they are back to profit again thankfully but it was a terrible feeling. So all in all, I understand your point of view, and that should not be an issue for you at all, it should be totally understood at this moment.

[LogitechMouse]

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And you, have you also given up? Or are you persevering with unstoppable tricks?

I've been in the crypto for 5 years, but it's the first time that I've heard that term "Orange Pill" being used.
That's the proof that I really need to do some more research, and gain more knowledge.

Invest for them? Nahhh don't do it. I would never do that thing as well if I'm in your shoes. You will invest for them, and then if you gain profit? You will give some to them. Funny how these lazy people are thinking right? They are doing things the easy way, and they will use somebody for their own sake.

Just forget about those people who aren't interested in Bitcoin. I don't want to convince them myself as well. I will only answer them once they asked me something that is related to Bitcoin, but to convince them to buy Bitcoin? I will not do it because of two things. One is, I want them to learn what Bitcoin is, then let them decide whether they will invest or not. Two is, I don't want to be blamed once they lose money because they invested into Bitcoin.

[Becassine]

I've been in the crypto for 5 years, but it's the first time that I've heard that term "Orange Pill" being used.
That's the proof that I really need to do some more research, and gain more knowledge.

I too am learning every day and I thought it was a well-known expression   (that's why I didn't expect most of the answers I got)

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/what-does-it-mean-to-orange-pill-someone

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Orange%20pill

https://kolinlukasx.medium.com/the-orange-pill-changes-your-view-about-money-its-time-for-you-to-get-a-taste-125d5668c359

And if you are looking for love, friendship and bitcoin : https://www.theorangepillapp.com/en

A bit of orange pill design : https://www.bitcoin-gear.com/products/time-to-get-orange-pilled-hoodie

[AHOYBRAUSE]

I guess that many of you have already tried to orange pill family or friends. Personally, I've totally given up on the idea.

Some people have asked me to invest a few hundred euros for them, in which case I would have to be their banker... They don't even want to know how to install a wallet or even buy a hardware wallet. In short, I refuse to be a banker.

And you, have you also given up? Or are you persevering with unstoppable tricks?

With my own family I have totally given up. They only believe what the media tells them and often enough they got told that bitcoin is a high risk investment that will someday burst and everybody will lose their money. Also crypto is the payment of the underworld and therefor cannot be trusted, haha.

Old people, they believe what they want to believe.

It's a little different with the family of my fiance, they are more open to it since they are also still looking for investment. My family has given up on that, maybe also because of age.

Fiances family is trying to educate themselves about the whole crypto thing and I have a feeling they might soon know even more than us. 

[taufik123]

I've been in the crypto for 5 years, but it's the first time that I've heard that term "Orange Pill" being used.
That's the proof that I really need to do some more research, and gain more knowledge.

It seems that I also have a lot more to learn as I am also new to the term "Orange Pill".
It was very unfamiliar to me when I first read this thread.

I too am learning every day and I thought it was a well-known expression  (that's why I didn't expect most of the answers I got)

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Quite a reference, I know about the "Orange Pill" you mentioned.

Just forget about those people who aren't interested in Bitcoin. I don't want to convince them myself as well. I will only answer them once they asked me something that is related to Bitcoin, but to convince them to buy Bitcoin? I will not do it because of two things. One is, I want them to learn what Bitcoin is, then let them decide whether they will invest or not. Two is, I don't want to be blamed once they lose money because they invested into Bitcoin.

There's no convincing when someone you know or someone around you doesn't understand Bitcoin and doesn't want to know about it.
Convincing newbies to buy Bitcoin will only be a disaster and it will reflect badly on your reputation when the investment goes badly.
Just provide general knowledge about Bitcoin so that they are familiar with Bitcoin and investment advice is really not needed.
Let them choose what to do next.

[DaNNy001]

I don't know why this common among humans but everyone wants to cut to the results of how you have benefited so much from bitcoin but I feel they only know this because we actually try to introduced or tell them of how bitcoin is wonderful instead of explaining the full context, maybe if we start to tell them about the bad side which is the whole volatility aspect of bitcoin maybe we can get genuine friends or family members that are willing to investment despite knowing this.

[Pokapoka124]

Some people have asked me to invest a few hundred euros for them, in which case I would have to be their banker... They don't even want to know how to install a wallet or even buy a hardware wallet. In short, I refuse to be a banker.

And you, have you also given up? Or are you persevering with unstoppable tricks?

As much as I am passionate about sharing my knowledge of bitcoin to others but I don’t waste my time on people who are not interested in bitcoin, and neither should you because your efforts will met with equal resistance. I don’t try to convince them with the promise of profit because that could easily backfire on me should they invest and the market dips even by a cent. You made a wise decision to deny their request, if they want to invest in bitcoins they should take full responsibility for their funds.

I've been in the crypto for 5 years, but it's the first time that I've heard that term "Orange Pill" being used.
That's the proof that I really need to do some more research, and gain more knowledge.

Yeah me too. I have been seeing of late hreads talking about the matrix and I thought maybe this was referring to the Morpheus blue pill red pill scene in the Matrix movie, turns out I don’t know what I was talking about lol.

[death69]

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And you, have you also given up? Or are you persevering with unstoppable tricks?

I've been in the crypto for 5 years, but it's the first time that I've heard that term "Orange Pill" being used.
That's the proof that I really need to do some more research, and gain more knowledge.

Invest for them? Nahhh don't do it. I would never do that thing as well if I'm in your shoes. You will invest for them, and then if you gain profit? You will give some to them. Funny how these lazy people are thinking right? They are doing things the easy way, and they will use somebody for their own sake.

Just forget about those people who aren't interested in Bitcoin. I don't want to convince them myself as well. I will only answer them once they asked me something that is related to Bitcoin, but to convince them to buy Bitcoin? I will not do it because of two things. One is, I want them to learn what Bitcoin is, then let them decide whether they will invest or not. Two is, I don't want to be blamed once they lose money because they invested into Bitcoin.

Orange Pill, seriously? That's uncharted territory for me! Guess I skipped that crypto lecture. But hey, the learning never ends, huh? Perhaps a Blue Pill is on the horizon, and we'll be Neo in a digital wonderland. When it comes to investing for others, I feel you. Why slave away, only to let someone else reap the rewards? It's like whipping up a Michelin-star-worthy feast, only to watch another devour it. Not happening, compadre.

But wait, maybe there's wisdom in those slackers' ways. Who isn't tempted by a nifty shortcut? Let's outsource our investing, kick back, and witness the cash avalanche. Smooth sailing, right? Alright, I'm goofing around. But on a serious note, owning our investments and doing our homework is crucial. And if Bitcoin isn't someone's cup of tea, their loss! More crypto cake for us, eh?

[mvdheuvel1983]

And you, have you also given up? Or are you persevering with unstoppable tricks?

Like you, I have also given up.
They look at me like an alien whenever I bring up the subject of cryptocurrency at the dinner table. It just seems ridiculous that the currency I am talking about I cannot show them a physical one whenever they ask me to produce it so that they can make a proper comparison with the local currency. I have already vowed that one day I am going to get the 1 bitcoin coin and show it to tell. But for now, I just keep doing my thing.

[Cookdata]

I guess that many of you have already tried to orange pill family or friends. Personally, I've totally given up on the idea.

Some people have asked me to invest a few hundred euros for them, in which case I would have to be their banker... They don't even want to know how to install a wallet or even buy a hardware wallet. In short, I refuse to be a banker.

And you, have you also given up? Or are you persevering with unstoppable tricks?

What I fear the most for anyone who wants me to tell them how to buy Bitcoin and coming to the market at the wrong time, the wrong time in the sense that when Bitcoin continues to go low without respecting any support, those are the thing I fear because new people who have not to experience anything will find it difficult to digest loss when it is there first time. So, when anyone asks me to teach them Bitcoin, my first rule of teaching is to show them the risk involve and after that has been digested, then I will open the profits side but even at the conclusion, I make sure I centered my discussion on risk and then cover it up with the benefits of being a bitcoin holder.

[Findingnemo]

Actually I don't want them to, you may call myself selfish which is true somehow but the main reason is I don't want to mix up finance with relationship because it mostly will end up in bad situation so just let them what they do and if tou feel they are doing something wrong then you can give your suggestions about how to succeed from it but its their choice to decide what to do and we can't analyse or force someone to invest in something what we are interested.

That is not a bad reflection on life though, I would agree with that. If you put finance and relations together, the relations would get damaged when finances are damaged. If you take money from your friends, even if they begged you to do it, then when you put it in bitcoin you will end up being upset that you lost money, even if they say nothing it will feel bad.

I did it for a family member, they wanted to put a small amount, an amount I could just give them even if all of it was gone, but when they lost it I felt terrible, they are back to profit again thankfully but it was a terrible feeling. So all in all, I understand your point of view, and that should not be an issue for you at all, it should be totally understood at this moment.

I am not really into convincing someone to invest their money into bitcoin because the mindset of everyone differs so only we know what will suit for us and same applies to everyone. But in terms of giving crypto assets to family member or our loved ones then I don't hesitate because here I am the one who is going to take the burden if the value drops but they are in fortune when it performs well and I don't have any doubt about the potential of bitcoin and its future but I just kept into very closed circle especially with the family.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I guess that many of you have already tried to orange pill family or friends. Personally, I've totally given up on the idea.

Some people have asked me to invest a few hundred euros for them, in which case I would have to be their banker... They don't even want to know how to install a wallet or even buy a hardware wallet. In short, I refuse to be a banker.

And you, have you also given up? Or are you persevering with unstoppable tricks?

Introducing someone to crypto, and advising them to buy bitcoin, is a risk on its own, let alone having to invest for someone.
A couple of friends have come to me in time past asking me to invest for them, this is after i introduce them to crypto, they came with the excuse that the technicalities are too much and they are afraid of making mistakes, i just tell them no, that I can't invest for anyone.

I can teach you how to get married, but don't ask me to give you my daughter to marry, because if I wanted you to marry my daughter, I would have told you that I Want you to marry my daughter while teaching you how to get married.

Invest for someone, alongside managing their investments for them is something I would never dare do, except for my wife and kids, I wouldn't do it for other family members, let alone friends.