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April 21, 2023, 03:43:42 AM
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Don't worry, there's will be new version of ETH, it's ETH 2.0 and the fees will be significantly reduced. But this development had been discussed since few years ago and there's no movement until right now! Cheesy

There's no way to reduce ETH fees because they don't have other way like BTC, you can only choose low priority fees.

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April 21, 2023, 10:08:52 AM
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Definitely one of the worst features of Ethereum. But you can always wait for it to go down. And the next parts of the Ethereum roadmap address this issue. Along with, in parallel, more development on L2s.

It's block space is in very high demand, so it kind of is what it is. A useful chain might be an expensive one.




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April 21, 2023, 11:00:41 AM
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The Ethereum fees are very high which is why small traders and investors tend to avoid it or pay high fees out of necessity. However, I would suggest converting to TRX or Doge if possible because the transaction fees for these coins are much lower. I personally do this because the gas fees for sending Ethereum are much higher compared to TRX, Doge, Polygon, and BSC chain. Despite several upgrades made by Ethereum developers in the past 5-6 years, gas fees still remain a significant issue. Hopefully, in the future, Vitalik will work to reduce them.

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April 21, 2023, 12:13:45 PM
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To be honest, I am really expecting ETH to have much lower fees like in just a few cents per transaction because of transitioning from PoW to PoS. Although that they have managed to lower them down, but not what I have really expected.

Hopefully this upgrade and/or the future upgrades will significantly lower down the fees way beyond my expectations since some of my clients are preferring to pay me USDT in ETH network than in BNB or Polygon without any reason at all. Maybe they trust ETH more despite the fees.

But at least right now it’s a little bit better than the yesteryears where we pay ridiculous high amounts worth of ETH gas fees.
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April 21, 2023, 01:03:17 PM
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To be honest, I am really expecting ETH to have much lower fees like in just a few cents per transaction because of transitioning from PoW to PoS. Although that they have managed to lower them down, but not what I have really expected.

Hopefully this upgrade and/or the future upgrades will significantly lower down the fees way beyond my expectations since some of my clients are preferring to pay me USDT in ETH network than in BNB or Polygon without any reason at all. Maybe they trust ETH more despite the fees.

But at least right now it’s a little bit better than the yesteryears where we pay ridiculous high amounts worth of ETH gas fees.
Perhaps, there is a change, and too unfortunate that we think the transition is the solution to high fees, it is even getting worse as per to see.
I was wondering why but yes, the heavy network congestion gives us no option to spare, we really have to face the reality that this is hard to cut it down and bring back the fee many years ago. For now, it was hard to assume that we can pay small fees for ETH and ERC20 tokens, and paying $10 per transaction is seems normal.
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April 21, 2023, 07:28:05 PM
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To be honest, I am really expecting ETH to have much lower fees like in just a few cents per transaction because of transitioning from PoW to PoS. Although that they have managed to lower them down, but not what I have really expected.

Hopefully this upgrade and/or the future upgrades will significantly lower down the fees way beyond my expectations since some of my clients are preferring to pay me USDT in ETH network than in BNB or Polygon without any reason at all. Maybe they trust ETH more despite the fees.

But at least right now it’s a little bit better than the yesteryears where we pay ridiculous high amounts worth of ETH gas fees.
Even those who trust it the most will soon migrate to another protocol if this continues, no one will keep suffering with such high fees forever, especially now when there are a lot of new and potential blockchain protocols released every now and then. If ETH developers don't come up with a solution soon, I'm afraid all the projects created on top of it will also start migrating to new protocols.

There are a lot of new alternatives with much lower fees and more scalability and many other options such as interoperability, etc. And they even allow migration from other protocols, especially Ethereum.

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April 21, 2023, 10:26:54 PM
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I was also under the impression that PoS merge addressed the fees but is actually a later update for sharding what is going to improve that. ETH changed a lot in the 6 months since I reviewed it for feasibility for my project.

There is a big economy build around L2s and that is not going anywhere either. Just for small money transfer ETH is overkill. The community have shared plenty of good tips, but probably the easiest is to just hold until you really need it so it pays the transfer itself with valuation.

Is all about perspective. $10 fee might be a lot transferring $70, but a $70 fee is nothing transferring thousands, millions. People were paying hundreds in just fees to mint NFTs back in the original craze.
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April 21, 2023, 10:33:56 PM
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even recent ethereum update still make its fee requirements a joke, it just doesn't make sense to use ethereum at this point, such waste of money i'd say.
but in the other hand, many good coins are also in their blockchain, but nowadays considering the trend is second layer with their own token, it just requires converting ethereum form its native blockchain to its L2 and we're done with this silly gas fee.

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April 21, 2023, 11:31:28 PM
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To be honest, I am really expecting ETH to have much lower fees like in just a few cents per transaction because of transitioning from PoW to PoS. Although that they have managed to lower them down, but not what I have really expected.
I was also thinking the same, their PoS i thought was supposed to be massive turning point of solving their never ending gas problem but it seems i was wrong, their solution to their fee was sharding, now l2 didn't even help eth instead making the transaction appear more, in etherscan stats, it's these l2 that become massive fee guzzler.
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April 21, 2023, 11:43:22 PM
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I was also under the impression that PoS merge addressed the fees but is actually a later update for sharding what is going to improve that. ETH changed a lot in the 6 months since I reviewed it for feasibility for my project.

There is a big economy build around L2s and that is not going anywhere either. Just for small money transfer ETH is overkill. The community have shared plenty of good tips, but probably the easiest is to just hold until you really need it so it pays the transfer itself with valuation.

Is all about perspective. $10 fee might be a lot transferring $70, but a $70 fee is nothing transferring thousands, millions. People were paying hundreds in just fees to mint NFTs back in the original craze.
You think so that holding for the long term with the mindset that the profits will pay the gass fee itself may sound ridiculous since past events with market rise have pointed in a different direction and also pushed the fees up to 3x and sometimes a total networks congestion, this is what have been experiencing with ethereum and just as you rightly said,  with all the network upgrade and migrations it makes not much difference to wait to hope that you make enough profits to settle gass fees whereas some other alternative coins are giving it users better scalability services and fewer fees compared to ETH.

So what point it is then to keep holding a coin with such high networks problems?

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April 21, 2023, 11:51:47 PM
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The NFT transaction in this blockchain is truly populated if being compared with its counterpart and even its competition.
There's also frequent airdrops coming in that uses ethereum blockchain like the NFTs which just adds the pain towards the gwei required.
In ethereum the gwei always spike somehow and gets normal again in no time so if someone wanna use ethereum, or in need of using it, always check the gas fee regularly, since the fee required may differ from every half an hour.
It also still confuse me why these many NFT platform and airdrops didnt just use matic since they are just far cheaper.

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April 21, 2023, 11:59:52 PM
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ETH fees are huge indeed. I was using TRX instead of it, but its fees are becoming worse too. LTC is a good option with low fees and fast transactions, but it doesn't have tokens on its blockchain.
TRX & LTC network fees almost same, but in USDT(TRX) minimum transaction fees is 1$ in mostly exchanges, yeah it’s definitely better than eth network, that's why i'm always using trx network. Because in the last a few years ETH network fees is going crazy, which is unexpected and unaffordable especially for the small traders.

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April 23, 2023, 05:32:20 AM
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Unfortunately gas fees for Ethereum transactions can be very expensive these days, especially when you are transferring tokens. For me, it's frustrating to have to pay such high fees just to move my own money.

For your question about Metamask, I think there might be a way to lower fuel costs from within the wallet. When you press Submit, you will see an option to "Edit" which will allow you to manually adjust fuel prices and limits.

Lowering this value will reduce the fee you pay, but may also mean that your transaction takes longer to confirm. So, to deal with high gas costs, in my opinion, it doesn't help much by just editing gas costs.

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April 23, 2023, 07:40:57 AM
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So I have to pay $9 ETH to transfer 70 USDT I just received, out of my wallet? And worse, transferring any amount of ETH will set you back $3 in gas fees.

I've just converted most of my ETH to BTC, and have $0.5 left in metamask. It claims to have an "advanced gas control" when you hit Send, but it's not showing me that.

Is there a way for me to lower the gas fees from metamask, or otherwise import the wallet into some other software?
This may be due to the default configuration of Metamask or due to network congestion. Note that the gas fee given will depend on many factors from the network, transaction speed and many other factors. The only best way to reduce fees is to monitor gas prices in the market and choose the best time to send the transaction.Choose the best time to send the transaction. If you want to send a transaction within a pre-selected time period, do your research and make a decision at the right time to avoid high gas fees.

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April 23, 2023, 05:21:44 PM
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Not realy a joke but a choice for tokenomics.
more than 70% of your fees are burned...
Just a rich-man choice   Cry
Yeah deadily rich man's choice I guess, but why do we have to contribute indirectly to the burnt token through excessively high fees and burning almost 70% of the same fees, it's like a case of the river supplying water to the ocean we're as it is supposed to be the ocean giving the river water.

I won't want to use more harsh words to portray the point I am trying to make, but then I hope you understand, my point is there have not been any benefits for ethereum users from all the net migration and other network development in the ethereuem ecosystem.

More like Vitalik's choice to me.

If the protocol is literally sending crypto into a black hole, and not even to miners and validators, then you have to question whether this indeed contributes to rich founders. Because it looks like they are trying to do it at the expense of making it a normal person's currency.

Mainstream money doesn't burn its own supply to make central bank shareholders rich (indeed, they make their money through other ways).

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April 23, 2023, 05:57:18 PM
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If you use Metamask you will find settings when you want to send you can set the gas cost you want, look at the Gas (estimated) section before you press the send button, you can edit the amount of gas you want and it's cheaper but it doesn't guarantee your transaction confirmed quickly, sometimes takes time to get confirmation on the network.

You can visit here https://etherscan.io/gastraker because ethgastation is not really live, so you can see there gas costs recommended by the network, make sure to wait for gas costs to drop sometimes during peak hours and weekends usually gas costs will go down, so it's best to make transactions when gas costs really drop. don't force yourself to follow the network because basically ETH is only for rich people who want to throw their money there just for gas fees and that's why I have been wondering why people buy ETH while their transaction fees are very expensive even though there are many alternatives available blockchain that is more cheap transaction fees, I have never used the ETH network again to put my money in my wallet in the form of ETH tokens. My suggestion is to use a metamask wallet or trustwallet to edit gas costs

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The high ETH gas fees have been a major concern for users, especially during times of high network activity.

It can make small transactions expensive and impractical. However, there are various layer 2 solutions being developed to address this issue.
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Absolutely during time the high gas fees network in ethereum so that's why i forget. But Don't worry we can jump in bsc network now because low gas fees with faster transaction. We can make small amount transaction with very low fees. Even never upset because every new project has been bsc network and there are many old project realize it now.
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...I recommend you use L2 blockchain like arbitrum or optimism if you wanna using ethereum. It cost even less than btc transaction.

But in order to use the Arbitrum or Optimism blockchain, you will first have to transfer your funds from the Ethereum blockchain using the bridge. And in this case, you will still need to pay for gas in the ERC-20 network first.

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April 23, 2023, 07:59:13 PM
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So I have to pay $9 ETH to transfer 70 USDT I just received, out of my wallet? And worse, transferring any amount of ETH will set you back $3 in gas fees.

I've just converted most of my ETH to BTC, and have $0.5 left in metamask. It claims to have an "advanced gas control" when you hit Send, but it's not showing me that.

Is there a way for me to lower the gas fees from metamask, or otherwise import the wallet into some other software?
Yes, it is common for gas fees to be high when transferring cryptocurrencies, especially during times of high network congestion. Unfortunately, there is no way to avoid gas fees entirely, but there are ways to minimize them.

One way to lower gas fees is to adjust the gas price and gas limit when sending a transaction. Metamask does have an "advanced gas control" feature that allows you to adjust these settings, but it may not be visible by default. You can enable it by clicking on the "Edit" button next to the gas fee estimate when sending a transaction.

Another option is to use a different wallet that allows you to set custom gas fees. Some wallets, such as MyEtherWallet and MyCrypto, allow you to manually set the gas price and gas limit for transactions.

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