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April 18, 2023, 11:33:32 PM
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How can I know if the bitcoin I buy on the exchange is "legit" or "dirty" ? Is it important ?
When you receive money from the bank or any with someone, can you know if it's dirty?

The same on Bitcoin, you didn't know if that's come from a dirty or from a clean source, but if this is your concern it is very simple, use a centralized exchange which surely they're fully regulated.

If you obsess about this, you can use a mixing service to enhance your anonymity before sending your coin into your wallet.

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April 19, 2023, 03:46:44 AM
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Bitcoin on exchanges come from anywhere!

I don't understand what's make it important to know the original source of the coins when you're not doing anything wrong. There's no such dirty or clean coin, coin is a coin, as long as it's not run in centralized network e.g. BSC chain.

exchanges treat mixed coins as suspicious which can trigger the very said investigations.
dont use mixers. you are more likely to not just be flagged for using a mixer,(real world regulations actually state using a mixers is a suspicious activity flag)  but also, end up giving into the mixer your clean coins and getting out dirty coins. so get hit twice by exchange monitoring triggers
You make a good point here, it's stupid to use Bitcoin mixer if he's want to trade using a centralized exchange.

But I will not say don't use mixer because if he want to trade his coins using a decentralized exchange or direct P2P, he will not have any problem about the centralized regulation. It depends on each person reference to use Bitcoin.
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April 19, 2023, 05:21:20 AM
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As long as you can provide proof that you received legitimate coins directly from the exchange, then you do not have to worry about the origin of those coins. The Blockchain will show that you received those coins from a legitimate exchange and not from the source where they received it from.

Just to be fair..... if you get change at a shop and the change was previous payment from a drug dealer... would they charge you for drug dealing, if they traced it back to you?  (It is easier to show proof that you received coins from an exchange, than showing proof that you received cash as change from a retail store, because you have the Blockchain)  Wink

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April 19, 2023, 05:41:54 AM
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Hey !

Just out of curiosity I know there are a lot of bitcoins on exchanges (Binance, Coinbase, Bitfinex and so on).
Where do they come from ?

Is it:
- Miners selling bitcoins on exchanges
- Retail people exchanging bitcoins
- Drug dealers swapping bitcoins versus cash
- Other ?

How can I know if the bitcoin I buy on the exchange is "legit" or "dirty" ? Is it important ?


OP, there is no such thing as "dirty" bitcoin. All bitcoin is the same, all satoshis on the blockchain. And the bitcoin on exchanges comes from anyone who wants to sell their bitcoin on the exchange.

This is true, there is no such thing as dirty bitcoin, if criminals use bitcoins, it is behavior evil, dirty human behavior is not bitcoin's fault. After all, bitcoin is just a tool, a means for us to use, and everyone's purpose is not the same. Breaking the law or being legal is human behavior.

Exchanges act as intermediaries that create an environment for people to exchange with each other, and they are government-licensed organizations. So their job is to track and prevent criminals, so I think buying bitcoins at exchanges is safe for us.

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April 19, 2023, 05:53:10 AM
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Hey !

Just out of curiosity I know there are a lot of bitcoins on exchanges (Binance, Coinbase, Bitfinex and so on).
Where do they come from ?

Is it:
- Miners selling bitcoins on exchanges
- Retail people exchanging bitcoins
- Drug dealers swapping bitcoins versus cash
- Other ?

How can I know if the bitcoin I buy on the exchange is "legit" or "dirty" ? Is it important ?

I think most of the things you said don't really matter, just pick a legitimate exchange where you could buy a bitcoin unless you bought it on some suspicious exchange website put your money there that's the only way maybe you could buy a fake bitcoin. You don't need to know this kind of thing when buying Bitcoin, I mean I don't know if the Bitcoin I bought on an exchange or any market was used for any illegal activities. Does it come from a miner? Does it come from other people? involve in some illegal activities or drugs? I don't really know.

It's still just an exchange platform that we use so most of the Bitcoin just came from people as well so there could be a lot of transactions happening before it goes to an exchange, But it wouldn't really matter at some point if you put your bitcoin on the exchange address, and have a transaction all of the other transactions will not matter.

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April 19, 2023, 06:10:48 AM
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That is very difficult, fiat money (large amount) can be distributed in a couple of people registered n and exchange, but controlled by a central person.
That person exchanges dirty fiat money through multiple accounts to Bitcoin (via exchange) and then pools them on the same exchange. Then sell the BTC by p2p market of the same exchange.
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Last edit: April 19, 2023, 02:50:08 PM by franky1
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Bitcoin on exchanges come from anywhere!

I don't understand what's make it important to know the original source of the coins when you're not doing anything wrong. There's no such dirty or clean coin, coin is a coin, as long as it's not run in centralized network e.g. BSC chain.

exchanges treat mixed coins as suspicious which can trigger the very said investigations.
dont use mixers. you are more likely to not just be flagged for using a mixer,(real world regulations actually state using a mixers is a suspicious activity flag)  but also, end up giving into the mixer your clean coins and getting out dirty coins. so get hit twice by exchange monitoring triggers
You make a good point here, it's stupid to use Bitcoin mixer if he's want to trade using a centralized exchange.

But I will not say don't use mixer because if he want to trade his coins using a decentralized exchange or direct P2P, he will not have any problem about the centralized regulation. It depends on each person reference to use Bitcoin.

many people sponsored to promote mixers are LIARS(greedy immoral people that want to use and abuse customers)
they only care about abusing their new recruits for profit and taking their clean coin and handing them dirty coin

yes coins can be classified as dirty.. sorry truth hurts

here is the thing if fungibility was a boolean answer yes/no. or if there was no taint analysis and no such thing as 'dirty' then there would be NO POINT in mixers. but the idiots pretending innocent people should use mixers while saying not to worry about what they receive.. are lying because they want to cheat those innocent people

if coins were all clean no one would need a mixer.. but ironically because these idiots are advertising them they know they need their coins cleaned because there is risk attached to their coins..

the other thing is that the sponsored schemers want innocent people to use mixers because if innocent people did not. then the only pool of coins being used by mixers would be the criminals dirty mixed with dirty still results i dirty

so in short dont trust the words of criminals asking you to hand them your honest earned coins and being handed their illicitly gotten gains..
if their illicit gotten gains were so legit then they would have no need to palm them off to someone else

so just avoid that crap


getting coins from legit services are deemed clean. especially from CEX as they have been vetted as part of regulation. and so exchanges dont put red flags on coins coming from regulated exchanges. but do red flag coins coming from mixers or services that swap AEC coins for regular pseudonymous coins

its worth reading regulators guidance to exchanges to know how exchanges treat coin analysis then you know what to do and not do

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April 19, 2023, 02:59:53 PM
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Hey !

Just out of curiosity I know there are a lot of bitcoins on exchanges (Binance, Coinbase, Bitfinex and so on).
Where do they come from ?

Is it:
- Drug dealers swapping bitcoins versus cash
- Other ?

How can I know if the bitcoin I buy on the exchange is "legit" or "dirty" ? Is it important ?
OP are you going to give away your bitcoin because you discovered that it has been used for illegal deals/transacts sometime ago before you got to purchase it! Nah I don't think so Grin.  Cause if we are to go by that then many fiat money in our possession wasn't supposed to be as they must have been used for illicit deals moving from one hand to another before it got to yours. The concern shouldn't be wether the fiat or bitcoin I own has been used for illegal activities or not before getting to my hand but it should rather be on making a better usage of that which is
now in our possession as against any illegality that might have been associated with it.

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