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April 19, 2023, 01:53:23 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

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April 19, 2023, 02:11:48 PM
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that's easy to say when u r well fed.

if i have to choose betwixt investing &/ having a meal right now..

i'd pick to eat as well.. ngl.

it is only after ur daily needs r met that u think of investing..

or saving for the future.
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April 19, 2023, 02:17:20 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future.
People must have things to eat to survive before they can do other things including investment.

Are you sure all of us are free from fightings to get enough livelihoods to survive for ourselves and our family members? I am unsure as each person has different conditions and life status so that your thinking is not true for everyone.

The saying is "Don't invest what you can not afford to lose". If you use money that is needed for your life and your survival, it is super risky at beginning and you should not do this. Getting richer is attractive but what if you fail and consequently will die? Not good at all.

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April 19, 2023, 02:20:27 PM
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Make hungry kill me??

It's one who have feed himself that will spare out money for investment, are you advising I should stop thinking about how to feed myself and my household and use the little that I can gather to invest.
Investment is good but we shouldn't think less of our stomach, health is life, heath is wealth. We should think about our health first before talking about investment

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April 19, 2023, 02:35:04 PM
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The saying "A dead man has no future" is common where I live and so we shouldn't invest while we are hungry. We should keep in mind that investing just what you can afford to lose is safer. A person who generally lives paycheck to paycheck every day cannot consider investments. Investing is a wonderful idea, but you should only do it after you have taken care of your necessities.

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April 19, 2023, 03:11:34 PM
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In the initial post, I see the advice to make a choice between food and investment. As if some people should spend less money on food to invest more in crypto. But it doesn't work that way with basic needs.
One should only invest some of the reserve money they've managed to allocate from their paycheck at work or from earnings at freelance.
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April 19, 2023, 03:24:05 PM
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Food is compulsory for both poor and the rich anyone who don't have money to invest now, can still invest later. All that matters is that we should put our health first before money. It is someone that have taking care of his basic needs and still have something left that can think on investing. To invest is good but will you invest with an empty stomach ? No. When you invest with the money that you are to use for other important expenses,you will end up selling off you investment at a price that might be lower that what you bought because you are to invest on a long term investment to enjoy your profit.

I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Those members that want to sell their accounts might have two or three accounts,and they feel it is better to get rid of one by selling. No normal person will sell his/her account without an alt account. You should also note that selling of account is not encouraged in the forum but you have your choice to make.
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April 19, 2023, 03:39:57 PM
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Most people don't look for the hard way to earn money, either because they lack patience or they simply want to make easy money. No doubt there are many people in this forum who instead of being productive and providing good content and learning a lot of things, are trying to take the easiest way to make money without putting in effort, such as selling their own account as the OP mentioned.

A good bitcoiner usually thinks about making a significant investment from their own account before investing in other assets. They try to make their account valuable by helping people and being an active member who contributes a lot to the forum. Sooner or later, they would have opportunities to earn cryptocurrency through their hard work.
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April 19, 2023, 03:46:53 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

First of all, I think this topic should go to economics.

Now you are just talking verbally, @OP, but remember the saying that goes, "All fingers are not equal." Humans are faced with a lot of needs every day, owing to the inflation rate and devaluation of local currencies. A bitcoin investment is more of a future investment and not just an investment with sudden profits, although it depends on the market's trend and volatility as well as how much capital is invested. So normally one cannot forgo food, for health is wealth; you must eat to be alive and stay healthy; you must check your health and all other primary needs that usually arise.

The inflation rate is high, and relying solely on one source of income is not really sustainable for some people, depending on their country of residence as well, so do you think they will survive? or you suggest they invest in Bitcoin, and maybe when they are seriously in need, they sell under pressure, which may result in a loss.

Since I have been in this forum, I have come to notice that there are only a few reasons why people sell their account: First, either they have other accounts, so they just grow a different one and sell it off; secondly, maybe they are low-quality posters and don't have the opportunity to be accepted in any campaign, so they just need to sell it. So I would say that account owners sell their accounts for a variety of reasons; you can't just tell everyone that it's because of "what to eat," because it's not always just that. Take, for example, someone who is in a well-paying campaign and does not need to sell their account for an unnecessary reason.

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April 19, 2023, 03:47:44 PM
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What do you think.

I think Investing in potential projects can be a wise decision in the long term, because it can bring financial stability and growth. However, it is important to be careful and avoid putting all of one's resources into an investment. On the other hand, it is considered necessary to consider one's current financial situation and prioritize meeting basic needs before making any investment decisions. Each individual's circumstances are unique, and not everyone has the same opportunities or resources available to them. Therefore, it is important to be realistic and make decisions based on one's individual circumstances.

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From your post Op, I think you can easily say those words as you don't feel the need of money in order for you to eat. That's actually true there's a lot of opportunities here in the forum you can learn and earn but people doesn't afford to take their time as they already need money for their essential needs. You've already mentioned their needs of money due to poverty yet you encourage them to invest? Investment doesn't guarantee you success and profit there's always a risk that the money you'll be needing soon could also be liquidated in just seconds of time. It's a good suggestion but it doesn't apply to everyone's position in their life.

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April 19, 2023, 04:01:43 PM
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What do you think.
I think you are forgetting that not everyone can afford to invest even a small amount because they need all the money they can get in order to get by.

I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home.
are you perhaps referring to this thread Selling my 2 Hero Bitcointalk accs. $80 each.? as much as I think that the one who is selling that account is nothing but a scammer, not everyone that has an account on this forum can spend a lot of time here, let alone join a campaign.

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April 19, 2023, 04:07:33 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

It's normal and in order to survive we need to eat, we can't blame them if you're already in survival mode you might just do the same in that situation, especially if you have a family.

Food is one of our basic necessities in life so we buy food first before investing, I mean yes investment is great but if you don't eat your gonna get sick and die so investing doesn't make any sense, investing in your future doesnt really matter if you're already dead.

Cryptocurrency investment is a risky investment so its not something that we can just put our money into and guaranteed a profit, the best thing to do is already have different funds, savings and other investments before even investing in cryptocurrency.

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April 19, 2023, 04:09:41 PM
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This topic caught my attention. It sounded Funny but it is good to deliberate on Topics like this. Investment is good but Food is very very important and compulsory. The importance of a meal cannot be over-emphasized.
Now, we should not lavish all and not invest because it is important that we invest to save for the rainy days so as to have something to fall back at.
Human wants are unlimited and this is where discipline comes in. If one is not disciplined, all cash that comes into hand will be spent on both relevant and irrelevant things so it is good to be disciplined and invest. There's this adage that says don't eat with both hands.
It is when you are healthy that you can invest and get the reward of the investment.
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I'm not sure how I'm going to forget about my stomach or my necessities and invest in bitcoin @OP it can't work can someone have money and still be hungry? No. Investment can come up later when someone is financially established, which is preferable.
Quote from: Zanab247
 link=topic=5449448.msg62116419#msg62116419 date=1681912403
I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home.
For those who intend to sell their account, I believe he is suffering financial troubles. This is why, when someone has expended all effort to rank up an account and then comes up with the notion of selling the account, you know he is experiencing financial difficulties.
Quote from: Zanab247
 link=topic=5449448.msg62116419#msg62116419 date=1681912403
What do you think.
You know these isn't what to think far, I believe that before you work, you must eat; otherwise, where do you get the energy to work when you're hungry? Investment is not a do-or-die procedure; all hands are not equal; perhaps you believe you have enough money to invest and put food on the table, before investing and that's why I'm these forum senior members always advise the newcomers to invest what they can afford to lose.

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April 19, 2023, 04:36:55 PM
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Lmao, yes it's true that investing in crypto can offer long-term financial security. But it's also important to consider immediate needs like food security and financial stability. For some people and families, the priority may be meeting basic needs in the present moment to ensure survival

NOT EVERYONEE HAS THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES OR RESOURCES TO ENGAGE IN INVESTING, AND IT MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR EVERYONE IN EVERY SITUATION. Thanks
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April 19, 2023, 04:54:27 PM
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Investment is good but food is more important, health is wealth, health is life, so first take care of yourself, your health before, investment, Investing is a wonderful idea, but you should only do it after you have taken care of your necessities.Food is one of our basic necessities in life so we buy food first before investing, I mean yes investment is good but if you don't eat your gonna get sick and die so
let keep investment aside, first feed our selves before investing, investing in your future is really matter but if you are dead, the dead don't have a future.Don't invest what you can not afford to lose.

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Investment is good but food is more important, health is wealth, health is life, so first take care of yourself, your health before, investment, Investing is a wonderful idea, but you should only do it after you have taken care of your necessities.Food is one of our basic necessities in life so we buy food first before investing, I mean yes investment is good but if you don't eat your gonna get sick and die so
let keep investment aside, first feed our selves before investing, investing in your future is really matter but if you are dead, the dead don't have a future.Don't invest what you can not afford to lose.


he is talking about the account seller who prefers to sell accounts when the seller could use to account to earn more than $80 per week. i could somehow agree with OP but i'm also unsure what the seller's situation is. we really can't say what is important to him and what is not.

the one that makes sense is that he can definitely use the account for good by joining signature campaigns that pay well for him. to the rest of us here in the forum, an account in bitcointalk can be considered an investment.









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April 19, 2023, 05:17:39 PM
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Many people have diverse ways of surviving and making ends meet on a daily basis. What you consider to be the simplest way for you to obtain food for yourself may be the most difficult for others. So judging people based on what they do now to put food on the table is pointless. Only invest when you have enough food to eat, or else, your investment becomes your daily food.

Those that wish to sell their accounts rather than build them to make money on the forum when they acquire a good signature campaign are not assured to get out of poverty. The work here should be considered a side hustle, not a full-time job, but it can help when needed. OP, don't promise somebody that they'll get out of poverty if they do some work here. This is possible, but not guaranteed.



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I think this may be the most entitled and aware lacking thread I have seen around here in a long time.  Roll Eyes
Have you ever had to talk or interact with someone who is struggling with food at all, OP?

I have, because the country I was born and what you are saying does not make sense. People in that situation does not choose to endure hunger, who likes being hungry anyways?   Roll Eyes

I dare you to say anyone living in poverty to stop buying rice, so they can buy a coin.
Perhaps, someone could benefit of the profits once the starved dead body is found holding the private keys.

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I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
This is the first time I’ve seen bitcointalk account referred to as an investment. It’s true the forum provides earning opportunities from signature campaigns, and job opportunities where you can be paid in bitcoin, but that doesn’t mean the goal should be monetary gain.

No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
If you don’t make enough to take care of simple necessities like food, I don’t think you have any business investing in bitcoin. It’s advisable to invest only that which you can afford to lose, a person who can’t afford food definitely does not have money he can afford to lose.

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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
Op I will not blame you because you don't even know what you are posting. Can you tell me the basic elements of human life? Or the necessary needs of man? If you don't know them, see them here by Maslow necessary needs: 1. Food, 2. Clothe and 3. Shelter. These are the three major necessary needs of man so why one will invest when he has not eaten. That will will never happened. Because he needs strength to do whatever he has to do.

Therefore your topic and content is misleading people to Invest while they are hungry. When they died who will enjoy the his Investment? Is it the soul of the man. Mr. Poster think well.









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Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
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If you struggle to put food on your table or you struggle to have shelter, it is a terrible idea to invest in bitcoin because you have not solved your basic need - food, shelter, clothing. Thus, the number one priority for you should be to solve you immediate
basic need first before any other thing else. There is no two aways about this or no other way that this can be said.

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Although Bitcoin is often viewed as an investment opportunity, I personally see it as a powerful borderless payment method. I use Bitcoin to receive payments for my marketing services and also accept other forms of cryptocurrency. While I earn enough from my marketing-related tasks to meet my investment goals, I believe that holding Bitcoin could lead to a prosperous future. However, it's important to be aware of the risks associated with Bitcoin and be a strong holder if you choose to invest.

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No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

Investing in Bitcoin is the surest way to secure a future for yourself and your family, but there will be no future if you're not alive to witness it tomorrow which is why it's important to take care of yourself today so you can be healthy for tomorrow.

If you haven't eaten, you'll die at some point or come up with disease that'll need money to treat in the future. It doesn't make much sense to make money today just to throw them away tomorrow for treating illnesses. If you haven't eaten, don't invest.

Make sure whatever you're investing isn't what you should be using to take care of yourself and your family. In as much as tomorrow is important, today matters as well. Only invest spare money and if you don't have any, look for means to get them before investing.

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No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future.

You do not know the condition of those that are looking for what to eat. You don't expect someone who is on a hungry stomach to not eat even when he has money somewhere that he can use. It's easier said than done. I don't even think you would be able to do that.

While speaking on the benefits of investment, also speak on the risk. Things can go south in an investment. You said it's like a seed, it would be good to note that not all seed germinate. Some don't germinate at all, some do and die while growing, some grow to maturity but don't bear any fruit.

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The people from the developing countries will face the food crisis, because their economy will be low. Government will give less facilities to their people, So they need to earn on own to survive. If the country based on the communism, the state will be welfare state and provide maximum benefits to their people. Some experts try to multiple their income by investing their food money and take huge risk. If the risk was successful, they will earn food money and money for their shelter. Most of the debts can be solved using the profits from the investment. Investing in bitcoin was the good opportunities to the people need additional income apart from their savings. So multiple the income by different way, the most important one is all the way of income generating must be loyal. Then inverse that money to the bitcoin to earn more.
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Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat?
There is no room to invest what you don't have; "A hungry man is an angry man," to a certain extent, you can't blame some people because they are actually looking for something to eat and that's why they do make some decisions even though it sometimes appears that way, and the investment rule is that you should not invest the amount you cannot afford to lose, and you should also not borrow money to invest; as a result, if you don't have, you can't invest.

On people who want to sell their forum accounts, and the majority of them aren't selling them because they don't have enough food, some of the accounts are people's alts; thus, buying such accounts is a waste of time because they have no proper use in the forum.

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April 19, 2023, 10:10:15 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
You cant blame out someone because not all would be sharing on the same situation on where there are really moments which we do really need that immediate money and even though it is really that hard to let go some of your possesions then you dont really have no choice but its true that if you do really just know on where to invest and having the idea on making out some altcoin holding which it would really be giving out some chance that you would really be living a life which you didnt expect that it would really be happening. This is why we should really be smart on things that we would do
because opportunities are really there, it is really just depending on how we do handle and make things right.

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It's kinda hard to get what you're saying, but I think I got the gist of it. You're saying people should focus more on investing for the future, rather than just thinking about their immediate needs, right? I mean, sure, investing is important, there is no doubt about it if you want to build a future free of financial needs. But, you know, not everyone has the same opportunities, and some people might really be struggling to make ends meet. It's tough to think about the future when you're just trying to survive the present.
That said, I get your point - investing wisely in something like BTC or other potential projects could make a huge difference down the line. But we should also know that not everyone's got the same starting point and those are the people who shouldn't be investing in Bitcoin or other crypto currencies because we should invest only what we can afford to lose.

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Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
I think those both things are needed for a trader who is looking to live his life by the doing of trade. It is also good to continue looking for what to eat because it's makes you live .
But some food will also cost money and since a trader's lifetime income is from money investment. So it is important to invest from this side but within the affordability. My suggestion would be to choose these two


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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future.
In essence, everyone who works hard, from morning to night, who invests, who trades, everything is none other than to fill the stomach. Because if the stomach growls, the mind will become dull, the energy will decrease, and certainly there will be no enthusiasm to do anything. So indeed, eating must be prioritized, so that it is safer and more comfortable when carrying out any activity.

Investing in potential assets should not be missed, because these assets will be more helpful when receiving profits in the future. But don't let it, when you have mediocre funds, expenses for food, and for everyday life, are used to invest. Don't do things like that, because a decision like that is not the right thing, what do you want to eat? indeed your assets have good potential, but (for example) one more year it will just be liquid and receive profits. Decisions like this should not be done, because it endangers your survival, in terms of finances.

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I'd rather not judge them. They might be in a very bad situation.

What I can only speak of are those instances that I know about. And I know well enough how people here in my place could end up selling properties just to have money. Whether it is for food or for something else is sometimes not the question. Indeed, many oftentimes miss the bigger picture in the pursuit of immediate gratification.

I have an aunt who is not used to not having enough money, so as soon as she's almost out of money, she will start to plan which property she's going to sell next. Her father has a vast amount of land. Today, she's almost drained of properties to sell. And she's already old and has developed illness.

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I got your point OP that think of investment but their lofe is not the same with yours I am sure you can eat 3 times a day but them we are not sure if they have a full meal later. For sure they are not dumb to sell of their accounts as they knew that they could from this forum but for sure they have a reason that is why they sell it off. But there are also others that selling it off as they quit which that is a dumb move.
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home.
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Not everyone is as lucky as us, there are many people who have financial difficulties and even just to eat they don't have money or they need money for urgent needs. There must be a reason why they sold their account, even though to most people what they are doing looks stupid, but I don't see it that way because family or basic needs come first, they can build their account from scratch again, but for food or other urgent needs it will not be possible to postpone.

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In my point of view the sentence is like eating to work or working to eat, which is better?
A person's situation and condition in terms of eating or investing determines which one should come first, right? if a bad situation exists today and it pushes you to the point that maybe you have no way to better survive that bad situation, chances are everyone will be selling what they can sell today, for example like the account you mentioned, I think that That's fine, because if I feel that I don't have another way out to fix the problem, why not do it for the better.

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No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
If you don’t make enough to take care of simple necessities like food, I don’t think you have any business investing in bitcoin. It’s advisable to invest only that which you can afford to lose, a person who can’t afford food definitely does not have money he can afford to lose.
this may sound sarcastic but you are right. no one did ever tell anyone to invest into something so that tomorrow you can put food on your table right? i didn't hear anyone saying that, but if you mean work today so you can provide food on your table? then that is what i commonly hear. i'm pretty sure the OP is also familiar with this saying "invest/gamble what you can afford to lose"? besides that even if we say BTT accounts are good investments since they can provide opportunities in the future, but it also doesn't make sense that it can be called an investment since opportunities like campaigns here in the forum are not consistent. yes you will get paid but is that enough for you to depend for your daily needs? they are opportunities who come and go depending on the situation not a daily source of income. frankly speaking there are even high ranks here who didn't even have campaigns at the moment.
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Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
I think those both things are needed for a trader who is looking to live his life by the doing of trade. It is also good to continue looking for what to eat because it's makes you live .
But some food will also cost money and since a trader's lifetime income is from money investment. So it is important to invest from this side but within the affordability. My suggestion would be to choose these two
A man can invest only when he is self-sufficient in food. People cannot live well with hunger in their stomachs. Similarly, if the financial situation is bad, people don't even think of investing. But I think a person's perspective is the key. If someone can realize that they need to get rid of their current situation and that the investments help them to overcome this situation are viable for them, they can usually get rid of their difficult position. If one wants to change his destiny, he has to come forward himself.

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I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty
What do you mean about use their account to work in this forum? they need to have a skill to work and this forum isn't the only one place to find a job because there are many freelancer sites e.g. fiverr which they can use.

If you mean about signature campaign, it's not a work because there's no guarantee the campaign will always continue.

People who want to sell their account aren't legit, some of them are scam.

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People need to eat to maintain being investor lol, and also people wanted to enjoy their earning while they alive , because what is the sense of your investment if you died starving  Grin


Kidding aside , I understand your sentiment in this mate but don't forget that we have all different intention and way of treating our money and how to face the outcome.

but indeed that all your point are valid and must be followed .









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People need to eat to maintain being investor lol, and also people wanted to enjoy their earning while they alive , because what is the sense of your investment if you died starving  Grin


Kidding aside , I understand your sentiment in this mate but don't forget that we have all different intention and way of treating our money and how to face the outcome.

but indeed that all your point are valid and must be followed .
Both the things are equally important but first and foremost priorities is always food on table to love a normal life . Now the level of inflation is making everything difficult for lower and middle class so they can't think of investment as they don't have extra amount with them.
Yes upper class can invest and enjoy fruits later on because they have that amount of money to enjoy perks .

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    -   It seems like you mean, is it that you are very hungry because you haven't eaten for a few days and then you have collected money and you know the potential of bitcoin, if you are talking about a stomach and you know that you will die of hunger, you will never think about investing first you in bitcoin then.

But if you invest in bitcoin and you can still endure for your needs every day and if I was in a situation like this I would do it, because all endurance has a good result in the end.

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    -   It seems like you mean, is it that you are very hungry because you haven't eaten for a few days and then you have collected money and you know the potential of bitcoin, if you are talking about a stomach and you know that you will die of hunger, you will never think about investing first you in bitcoin then.

But if you invest in bitcoin and you can still endure for your needs every day and if I was in a situation like this I would do it, because all endurance has a good result in the end.
This thing and idea can only work for the upper and rick class of society who have sufficient amount of money to invest plus they have all basic necessities of life.
Unfortunately the lower classes are thriving for a normal life , working hard for food   education for children , basic health care so their investment is only thier home .

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Make hungry kill me??
If you don't want hunger to kill you, then look for physical work and be doing, you don't have to sell forum account because you want to eat, you don't have to go against the rules because you want to eat, they didn't create the forum to feed anyone, the forum was created to enlighten members more about bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general.
It's one who have feed himself that will spare out money for investment, are you advising I should stop thinking about how to feed myself and my household and use the little that I can gather to invest.
Investment is good but we shouldn't think less of our stomach, health is life, heath is wealth. We should think about our health first before talking about investment
It's a bad idea investing when you haven't satisfied yourself and your family members, when investing in bitcoin, always make sure you invest any amount you know it won't affect you, don't starve yourself because you want to invest in bitcoin.

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April 20, 2023, 09:09:59 AM
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Everyone has to deal with each their own situations. Those that are looking to invest probably have no need to think of what they need to eat or they're also thinking of what they need to eat but they're balancing their budget and manage their money.

It's not just in the forum about those you've noticed that are looking for food to put into their tables. It's almost everywhere where you see people hustle and bustle for their food and daily living just to survive but it's a different thing and comparison about the one you've given as an example about account sales.

I know that it's easy to say that they can learn and use their resources but it's just everyone doesn't have a good situation. People will prioritize food than investing before investing to bitcoin.

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that's easy to say when u r well fed.
if i have to choose betwixt investing &/ having a meal right now..
i'd pick to eat as well.. ngl.
it is only after ur daily needs r met that u think of investing..
or saving for the future.

The answer is a parable: "Give a hungry man a fish - and you will feed him for a day. Give him a fishing rod, teach him to fish - and you will feed him for a lifetime."

If you make only "eat" your priority and main goal in life, you won't see anything else in this life. And the biggest problem you will have is only the question of where to get food...


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Unfortunately it's hard to tell them apart, some people even come here without a job out of hunger that someone referred to that this forum produces. I think this kind of situation has been going on for a long time and is not a secret anymore.

But some are really lucky to be able to prepare food menu every day thanks to this forum. If they are successful, they will refer the closest person to do the same and so on. In conclusion, this forum is never short of "starving" people.

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Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
Looking for what to eat is the priority. How can you think of investing if you don't have something in your plate? To invest, it's a must that you're having enough of what you need as a human being and able to provide as well for the needs of your family. If you're already stable in that matter then investing can come next.

Saving and investing are important to have something to count on in the future that's already given. However, we must also attend to what is needed now in order for us to survive especially that inflation is inevitable.

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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

Nobody will ever have the chance to do something that will improve their future and choose to ignore it, it is a fact. But the circumstances change many people's attitudes toward their objectives, so many people that want to sell their Bitcoin assets or something else that will be advantageous to them in the future, it is condition that make them do so. The best thing for every human being is to put survival before anything else. To maintain excellent health, we all require sufficient hygiene.Know that nothing in a human being's life will be worthwhile without good health.Many users who sell their Bitcointalk accounts do so for a variety of reasons.



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TBH, I have never seen a person selling his personal account but the ones that he used to farm. AccountSeller was one example and he openly did it and people were stupid enough to fall for those accounts. Then came the merits system which made it almost impossible for these accounts to sell because low level accounts are of no use and they need merits to grow it up now, which is a great initiative by theymos to stop account sales. It's not considered illegal here, however if caught, is tagged negative so that it remains of no use to the buyer. It's actually easy to spot that an account has changed hands by checking the difference in posts made since the beginning of account creation and the recent ones.
And yes, for those who have been here since early stage (considering me as well), I'd say that we used to earn at least BTC0.4 weekly through signature campaigns and it was a time then, and now is the time that we compete to get in a signature campaign for about BTC0.003-0.005 (depending on the pay of the campaign) Wink

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Account selling is prohibited iirc, investment is a luxury that not a lot can afford, imo if they see selling their accounts as a way to make money instead of just using it themselves to get themselves campaigns then let them be, it's not like they are keeping up a sustainable income, they will eventually get tired especially with the vigilance of the veteran forum users against accounts with questionable background.
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
Op I will not blame you because you don't even know what you are posting. Can you tell me the basic elements of human life? Or the necessary needs of man? If you don't know them, see them here by Maslow necessary needs: 1. Food, 2. Clothe and 3. Shelter. These are the three major necessary needs of man so why one will invest when he has not eaten. That will will never happened. Because he needs strength to do whatever he has to do.

Therefore your topic and content is misleading people to Invest while they are hungry. When they died who will enjoy the his Investment? Is it the soul of the man. Mr. Poster think well.
I think the OP has very good intentions but his problem was his inability to express himself in this thread. I know he understands that every human needs essential commodities to survive but he failed to state that. Rather he categorized both essential needs and wants as "what to eat". I am assuming that he wanted to advise members not to seek immediate benefits but always consider the future. His inability to express his intention has clearly led to the insinuation that he is advising members to starve because they need to invest. My question now is that who will benefit from the investment if the investor die of hunger?


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Investment is not bad thing but everyone cannot afford it and people prefer getting food rather than investment because they don't have little amount of money which they can only use for daily expenses.

People are sometimes not interested in the online investment because first thing is their income which cannot necessitates it and other thing is their unawareness, may they find a way to earn quick income which is not possible with investment.

People sometimes sell their accounts may be they need some money to manage life because we don't know about personal condition of anyone and may be this account is free with him and not in a use so therefore every individuals thinks differently and their thoughts differ widely from each others.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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April 20, 2023, 04:33:53 PM
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Prioritize your basic needs, such as food and health, before investing. Don't invest more than you can afford to lose, and remember that investing should not come at the cost of compromising your well-being. After all, investing in your future is important, but it should only be done after taking care of yourself first.
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Prioritize your basic needs, such as food and health, before investing. Don't invest more than you can afford to lose, and remember that investing should not come at the cost of compromising your well-being. After all, investing in your future is important, but it should only be done after taking care of yourself first.
Health and education are things that must be prioritized for yourself, it is important more than anything else.
investment is indeed very important for the future, but don't forget that the life we live now is far more important and nothing guarantees that we will live longer to enjoy the results of what is invested.
what you say is very true, don't let us hold back for ourselves just to invest, so it's better to meet our own needs then the rest to invest.
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TBH, I have never seen a person selling his personal account but the ones that he used to farm. AccountSeller was one example and he openly did it and people were stupid enough to fall for those accounts. Then came the merits system which made it almost impossible for these accounts to sell because low level accounts are of no use and they need merits to grow it up now, which is a great initiative by theymos to stop account sales. It's not considered illegal here, however if caught, is tagged negative so that it remains of no use to the buyer. It's actually easy to spot that an account has changed hands by checking the difference in posts made since the beginning of account creation and the recent ones.
And yes, for those who have been here since early stage (considering me as well), I'd say that we used to earn at least BTC0.4 weekly through signature campaigns and it was a time then, and now is the time that we compete to get in a signature campaign for about BTC0.003-0.005 (depending on the pay of the campaign) Wink
If you said you have never see some people write up that they have full member and Hiro member account to sell in this bitcointalk.org , you are deceiving yourself because, many legendary members has opposed their secret that they are scammers looking for people money to scam. Yes, I said it that there are many legendary that started working in the signature campaign and their investments are everywhere in their countries, I believe you are among the people that focused in their investment some years ago to became successful investors in the land. I know someone must eat, but we need to encourage them to be more focus about their future, so that they will have a good future that will bear the name of this community.

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Nowadays, basic commodities are very important in every day of human life. And it cannot be lost or neglected. Because if it's not met every day, it just appears that you can't find a way to meet this need.

And besides that, it will only be easy to do if you are a strategic person that no matter what you do, can find a way for you to have income or money every day of your life.


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I think it depends on the situation and condition of the person. If he doesn't have food at all (starving) then of course finding food is the priority. but if he has a sufficient supply of food and he has extra cash left unused. then only in that situation people can save and invest.

But if we want to find food without spending our money then selling food is the solution. such as making ready-to-eat food products. and we can eat it too while we trade. but that's for the situation of people who have capital but don't have a business. and he needs to spend his money to buy food.

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It is good you look for what to invest but first you have to look for what to eat.
The most essential need of man is food. You cant be looking for what to invest with an empty stomach.
Sourcing for what to eat will not stop you from sourcing for what to invest. It ia just a thing of priority. If you already have what to survive with then you can invest. You need to also know that you dont invest with all you have to survive with considering the risk involved in an investment and it also depend on the kind of investment you are embarking on. Bitcoin investment for instance is a good example of an investment you dont dive into with all your savings without leaving behind what to survive with.
We all know how important an investment is and if you must invest properly and profitably, you need to eat first. Not just to eat but good food.

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This thing and idea can only work for the upper and rick class of society who have sufficient amount of money to invest plus they have all basic necessities of life.
Unfortunately the lower classes are thriving for a normal life , working hard for food   education for children , basic health care so their investment is only thier home .
Those you mean in the lower class who can still live normally can also have other investments besides houses. Because everyone whose life conditions are still running normally, of course, still has the opportunity to make investments in other fields as long as they have the will to do so. Because no one is immediately rich in this world except by just continuing to try and work hard to get what they are targeting in their life, so all of this depends on how much their will and effort is in making it happen so they can have some investments like those of those who already rich.

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I think it depends on the situation and condition of the person. If he doesn't have food at all (starving) then of course finding food is the priority. but if he has a sufficient supply of food and he has extra cash left unused. then only in that situation people can save and invest.
If the priority factor of food supply is not fulfilled because of low income then how can we save or invest, we must understand the definition of saving and investing is saving money from income/salary for unexpected needs, saving money has nothing to do with basic needs to buy food or other routine needs. So before you achieve economic stability, you don't have to save and invest because your finances are only sufficient to buy your daily food needs. You must increase the economy of other jobs to provide sufficient income that can be set aside for future savings.

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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

OP your topic is not bad  but I would like to say something and please do not get me wrong. I was trying to pick out from your post here how to handle the situation but I realized that it is not so as you think. Let me start by saying this,  it is only when you have  been able to satisfy your needs that is when you can be able to concentrate on what ever you want to do. Do not forget that a hungry man is an angry man. So by saying this you should be able to know that where I am driving to but however, there are limits to some certain exercise but when in excess without control then it tends to be a challenge and addiction. So in the modest, you should know that eating has to be controlled so as not to get it over you.

Investment is not a bad idea because with your investment, your capital will be raking some profits for you whenever it is due but you should be able to make good intuition of your investment before going into it.

However, investment does not only mean your money working for you, you sometimes must invest your time in building up your skills, knowledge and other espect of life to gain relevance. Just like OP said here about building your account to a better rank through meaningful activities and contributions here, this is ok to go by as you will benefit from it as time goes on. It is also an investment too and it doesn't require finance for you to start with.

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April 20, 2023, 10:19:42 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
People that are selling their account are not doing it because they are hungry, or they are looking for something to eat. It could be because they have more than one account. So they need to sell the other one when they can no longer maintain it. Also, people that build their account from member to Legendary, can you tell me how building their account have made them to invest so much in bitcoin and became rich. One does not need to own an account in this forum before they begin to invest in cryptocurrency and Bitcoin.

So there is no true connection, in the write up concerning account selling. What I know is that selling of account is allowed in this forum but discouraged.

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April 20, 2023, 10:27:44 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table... Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
The circumstances are not the same for everyone, i really appreciate your concerns but for a moment think about it, what if you hadn't eaten or in great need of money, what would you do if you have nothing other than some accounts like you mentioned BTT account, but i have seen the one who try to sell his/her account always get banned both the buyer and seller and red tag is awarded to both of them, but i have seen people selling their fiver and Upwork accounts for the need of money. Why do they do it, you said, they should not do it instead they should work on those accounts and earn a hell lot of money.

I have two explanations for you, One is they might be in some kind of emergency because that's when most of people start to sell their assets, like home appliances, properties, smartphones, etc. and I pray to Allah that, no one has to face that time,

The Second explanation is, a minority of people has millionaire mind, like take the example of Website flipping, most of webmasters make one website, do all types of SEO strategies and other tips to make that website famous in their respective niche, they get enough traffic on it so that they can flip (sell) it for a bundle of dollars, while let's say if they are making $100 dollars a month from those websites, they can earn $5000 dollars from it by selling it. According to my experience, a good niche takes 1 year to make $100 a month, and if the person runs the same website for 5 years he will earn only $6000 dollars while if at the end of the year, he sells that website for $5000 dollars ( which is a good rate) then again in each year from 5, he can make 5 websites and can earn a total of $25,000 dollars while back then he was earning only $6000 dollars. So i hope you might get my point.

The point to be noted here is that i am not encouraging anyone to sell or buy their BTT accounts as you took in examples because i am against it. i just shared some facts about why some people tend to eat not invest. Maybe i took the meaning of your post wrong, please correct me, if yes.

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April 20, 2023, 10:53:22 PM
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LOL, from your title you really don't agree with me, investing is necessary but if you want to invest then reduce the number of food portions I think this is crazy, in my mind I fulfill basic needs first then invest if I have more money, not vice versa
but I respect your choice

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April 20, 2023, 11:39:45 PM
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LOL, from your title you really don't agree with me, investing is necessary but if you want to invest then reduce the number of food portions I think this is crazy, in my mind I fulfill basic needs first then invest if I have more money, not vice versa
but I respect your choice
We do have our own ways on handling our own lives which there are people who are really that mindful about making investment via cutting those food portions or allocations because they do know that they would be
needing to sacrifice at least they are really that waiting for something but of course it does really still accompanied with some luck because not all investment turns out to be positive all over the years to come,
which means its neither you would succeed or fail or your investment will really come to waste.This is why people would really be hesitating on making such step because of the tendency or chances
for them to miss out those opportunity.

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April 21, 2023, 04:12:57 AM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment,
Maybe because they don't have a real job then they spend all their salary per week on food. I know what you mean, do you want people here to invest it and not spend it to make the Bitcoin prices rising up? I agree with you, but I admit hard for doing that, I ever try to keep all my salary to Bitcoin, but by the time and inflation here is very high, and all basic needs going up. so that situation make me exchange a few bitcoin for fiat to meet daily needs.
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April 21, 2023, 04:19:06 AM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment,
Maybe because they don't have a real job then they spend all their salary per week on food. I know what you mean, do you want people here to invest it and not spend it to make the Bitcoin prices rising up? I agree with you, but I admit hard for doing that, I ever try to keep all my salary to Bitcoin, but by the time and inflation here is very high, and all basic needs going up. so that situation make me exchange a few bitcoin for fiat to meet daily needs.

If we don't eat, then we can put it all in bitcoin, but that is impossible, right? This is only possible for those rich people who can feed themselves even if they put all their salary in bitcoin. People are not the same; others have a ton of extra money, and others are short. I also used my crypto when I really needed it and my salary was not enough. That was really my purpose in having bitcoin: to help me financially in this kind of situation.
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April 21, 2023, 06:23:59 AM
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Account sellers always have more than one accounts and they keep doing that until they run out of accounts, even after they run out of accounts they will start creating new ones since this is what they do, I do not think these people are selling because they are hungry, mind you, a hungry stomach can never concentrate on anything, not until that stomach is feed, you are talking as if you can go on for days without eating, do you not know how important it is to eat your daily food?

Eat first, so you can think and use your body to do great things, eating must come first or you won't be in a good shape or in the right state of mind. Unless we are talking about those who are too foodies, any small money they make, they are going to get those burgers and eat to get fatter.

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Hey Man! Eating, food, water is damn necessary, yeah, even if one has eyes on the future you still have to make sure you stay the fuck healthy, like who's gonna take charge of all of the investments and shit?! A dead body layed six fifth below, you've got to be kidding.

You made mention of investment, I say look around you, solve a problem in the society that will get fetch you the cash, not everyone has a good investment strategy, not everyone are good at managing finance, the risk, the pressure, not everyone are good to go back up investing eventually when they lock and roll and still fails. Conclusion is, health is wealth, you've got to be healthy to have all of these stuff's together.
You can have all the Bitcoins in the world and be unhealthy, who's gonna spend those sats then?
Too much focus on signature campaign is purely stupid.

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Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

surely you often hear the phrase "not everyone is lucky" and it is very common. I think the people who are selling their accounts - who are selling their bitcoin right now - who don't care about investing (only care about what they eat right now) are people who aren't lucky at all.

can we change that, the answer is very unlikely because every person's mind is unique and only certain people can see the opportunity. just look around you and your closest people, how many people do you know invest their money in bitcoin? there must be little or nothing, this proves that not everyone can be what we think, so focusing on ourselves, in my opinion, is the most reasonable right now.



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LOL, from your title you really don't agree with me, investing is necessary but if you want to invest then reduce the number of food portions I think this is crazy, in my mind I fulfill basic needs first then invest if I have more money, not vice versa
but I respect your choice
Actually, both are not wrong in making choices as long as the goal is to invest, because some people who choose to set aside a little money to invest and the rest to eat in their life are also not wrong because their goals are also very good. Likewise with the choice you said where you prioritize food needs first and the rest to invest, meaning that these two options are equally good to try even though they look different in their application.
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April 21, 2023, 02:34:21 PM
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Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
There is no clear-cut answer to this question. As individuals, we are made up of various traits and grew up in various ways. Our priorities and some life decisions may have been influenced by our own experiences. For one person, it might make sense to look for food first before even considering investing, for instance. After all, we should eat. The other individual, on the other hand, might adopt a long-term perspective and postpone some specific pleasures in the hopes that investing will pay off in the future for both themselves and their family. So, whether I should invest or eat first depends on my personality and other things.

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April 21, 2023, 03:23:18 PM
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Look for what to invest, not what to eat
Make hungry kill me??

It's one who have feed himself that will spare out money for investment, are you advising I should stop thinking about how to feed myself and my household and use the little that I can gather to invest.
Investment is good but we shouldn't think less of our stomach, health is life, heath is wealth. We should think about our health first before talking about investment
Hunger will not kill you orpichukwu , all you need to do is to work hard not to depend on BTC investment alone like what others users are doing in their various environment to grow higher in wealth today. look for where to invest doesn't mean you will not eat because, I know that man cannot survive without food, but we should try have something that will make us great or something good that will carry the name of BTC like the way some richest men and women in our various countries  always proud of what made them wealthy in the country. Am advising those who don't want to change from that attitude of looking for what to eat daily without thinking about their future.

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April 21, 2023, 03:27:48 PM
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None of what you said make sense at all.

People who are looking what to eat are the type of people that doesn't have enough money to put food on their table much more on investing. They are the ones who are barely surviving in the society because of corrupted government that is neglecting them even though they really needed help. They are also the ones that doesn't have much privileges in life that's why they are struggling to survive.

It's not investing that they need, they need a push from someone that is financially stable or more stable to start a new life.
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LOL, from your title you really don't agree with me, investing is necessary but if you want to invest then reduce the number of food portions I think this is crazy, in my mind I fulfill basic needs first then invest if I have more money, not vice versa
but I respect your choice
Actually, both are not wrong in making choices as long as the goal is to invest, because some people who choose to set aside a little money to invest and the rest to eat in their life are also not wrong because their goals are also very good. Likewise with the choice you said where you prioritize food needs first and the rest to invest, meaning that these two options are equally good to try even though they look different in their application.
maybe it's just a different delivery, of course we all must meet the basic needs in life first and then think about investing, the purpose and objective of investing is to be able to take profits and the benefits we get also to meet the needs of our lives.
Everyone has different views and goals, but in essence, we all want a lot of money and invest as much as possible in future assets.

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April 21, 2023, 03:56:55 PM
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Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

People do need to get a real job. Well, you know you could invest as well as look for what to eat right? So according to you, we should never sell off some bitcoins just cause we want survive at the moment. We should also remember that not all investments brings about profits and not go about starving oneself cause of having investments for the so called future. If one cannot survive today cause of a must to have some investments, then there may be no future to reap any benefits of those investments
Planning ahead for one’s future is perfectly understandable. But we shouldn’t forget to live and enjoy ourselves in the present and when we can cause there very well may not be a tomorrow.
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looking for something to eat is not a bad thing, but adjusting to the money we have is also important, the rest you can share where your money will be used.
Remember that investing carries some level of risk, and it's crucial to do your research and seek professional advice before making any investment decisions.

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April 21, 2023, 05:27:27 PM
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Funny how these type of people just live out the "dime-a-dozen" trope.

Maybe idk, try looking down every now and again to get a little reality check and find that not everyone's as privileged as you that they can just think of what to invest in instead of looking for what to eat?
Lots of people out here scrambling to find a livable job, and a lot more who are not qualified to jobs that do pay well so they get stuck working for peanuts. That in itself should be a good reason for them to not worry bout investing, since how can they even invest on shit if they have no money?
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one might misinterpret what you're talking about completely, but in the long term I understand what you're trying to convey.
But everyone has different thoughts so they may have a different opinion than you.
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I believe those who are trying to sell their account are attempting to get some big bulk of money for some specific reasons but this is not universal. Here because of the craze of bitcointalk accounts his make as such an attempt but you should ignore the same. We are here to grow and make a virtual name for ourselves not attempt to make quick cash and move on, you never know such users might have more than one account and selling one does not make a difference to them.

But then again hunger pangs are very painful thing to experience and they should take the help of their local authorities for that, some governments can support their poor, most can though.

Besides a person who can post on their forum has access to internet on a smart device. They are not poor but only showing off.

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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
You are talking about investment when things are a little bit hard for some people. Don't think maybe things are okay with you atr you could assume that the same is to every other persons. Things are hard for many people when in the forum or outside the circular world. I think it is for those that have the fund to pay there bills that will think of making some investments to give them some good profits at the end of the day. There are people who do not have the money or even feed themselves. We all know that all fingers are never equal.









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Well, it's probably easier said than done, someone who doesn't have any money at all to eat food or feed their family will definitely look for a way to get some money and will not think of investing the money that they may get when they or their family is hungry, the very first thing that comes in your mind when you have nothing is the belongings that you can use to get some money.

And that is always done out of desperation and not for a desire or anything. I know that one can earn money if they make investments, but this rule doesn't apply on those who doesn't have any money to spare and all they get is just used to spend their lives.

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Well, it's probably easier said than done, someone who doesn't have any money at all to eat food or feed their family will definitely look for a way to get some money and will not think of investing the money that they may get when they or their family is hungry, the very first thing that comes in your mind when you have nothing is the belongings that you can use to get some money.

And that is always done out of desperation and not for a desire or anything. I know that one can earn money if they make investments, but this rule doesn't apply on those who doesn't have any money to spare and all they get is just used to spend their lives.
Correct. and the fact that many are in such a condition right now. they have just enough income to meet their current needs. so it's impossible to get rid of. sometimes they are lacking. and what is more worrying are those who have no income. then of course they will even sell their still valuable assets that they can sell and exchange for food. so there are indeed many conditions that make it impossible for someone to make an investment. because they can only focus on fulfilling the necessities of life every day such as eating. they also want to save and invest but their economic conditions do not allow this to be done.

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That's their business and what you say is whether it was planned or executed by you, and my question is. Are you looking for money to eat so you don't get sick and survive, or are you looking for money just for investment without caring about your needs, especially food and you will die ridiculous.
what you mentioned is true, but not everyone likes that and all because of circumstances and income and also the government doesn't care about the poor, and all you have to do is be independent by earning money to eat and survive. And everyone wants to invest, even if it's just a very small amount. But there is no other choice but to prioritize their needs and think about the future just thinking let time tell because as long as there is a will to try and work hard everything will be fine.

and for the accounts that are sold I don't think everyone is poor and sells them for graves, because actually this is a place for great people, especially those who have been here for a long time and also for a very good income that will never be found anywhere else, and they the one selling their account might be for something and only both parties know about it, and maybe for financial reasons or want to retire and focus on investing or maybe because they have a serious job so no time for this forum, and there are lots of good reasons for this.

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April 21, 2023, 06:55:56 PM
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Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
Looking for what to eat is the priority. How can you think of investing if you don't have something in your plate? To invest, it's a must that you're having enough of what you need as a human being and able to provide as well for the needs of your family. If you're already stable in that matter then investing can come next.

Saving and investing are important to have something to count on in the future that's already given. However, we must also attend to what is needed now in order for us to survive especially that inflation is inevitable.
Nobody really does that, OP just created a topic out of nothing. Nobody ever said "I look for what to eat, and not care about investment", everyone knows that you eat first, and then you invest, that's the sorting of it and that's known and that's how everyone acts. Not like we eat our investments, not like we could have invested 5k into bitcoin but instead we went clubbing and ate/drank that much and covered the tabs of everyone or something. Eating is a must, and nobody questions that.

We all invest when we can, but if anyone in the world is thorn apart about eating or investing, they will go with eating. What good does an investment can do when you are hungry, am I gonna eat Bitcoins? I rather eat, but if any money is left after that? Invest.
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April 21, 2023, 07:23:22 PM
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What do you think.
I mean those people who sell their accounts are really just desperate to either earn money or to scam people around the forum. About investing in projects, you can't really blame the reasoning of the many that they just don't want to invest in the potential projects. We've been from ICOs, IEOs, STOs then NFTs and people were still falling from either shit projects that aren't worth even $1 or just purely scam projects that wouldn't give you a single penny at all.

People investing in BTC today most likely already had something to eat since their money that were put into investment usually already are the money that are worth losing and they wouldn't starve if their investment didn't yield them any profits.
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Well, it's probably easier said than done, someone who doesn't have any money at all to eat food or feed their family will definitely look for a way to get some money and will not think of investing the money that they may get when they or their family is hungry, the very first thing that comes in your mind when you have nothing is the belongings that you can use to get some money.

And that is always done out of desperation and not for a desire or anything. I know that one can earn money if they make investments, but this rule doesn't apply on those who doesn't have any money to spare and all they get is just used to spend their lives.
You are right, that the first thing to do if we don't have money is the goods we have to make some money. This is a compulsion because if we have money then we definitely don't want to do this kind of thing. It's still better if we only have thoughts like that, because it's not uncommon when someone is at their wit's end they will do anything, including crime.
How can we invest, while even to make ends meet we are still confused. In conditions like this it's not that we don't want to, but we don't have the ability to do so.

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It's one who have feed himself that will spare out money for investment, are you advising I should stop thinking about how to feed myself and my household and use the little that I can gather to invest.

Actually the reason is to remind you of what you are to do at the right time you shouldn't concentrate on the spending mostly then the savings which is also investment the process of you keeping your money for future use is an investment
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Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
Stop generalize everything.
Most of the people investing into cryptocurrency is they want to earn money to fill their daily needs including bill and foods. Some people would use cryptocurrency as their primary job because they can't get the job yet in real life and it's not advisable to do so especially when you don't have stable money and involved with trading. It's okay for them to do it just for the sake of fulfilling their daily needs as long as they understand the risk and can get over it.

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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future.
There will always be a good opportunity for someone to invest in bitcoin at any given time if he wants to, even if you wait another day, week, or year. However, this is not the same as going without food for an entire day or weeks because lacks of food deals on health badly.

In a nutshell, what I'm trying to say is that there is always a chance to invest, but skipping meals simply because you want to save and invest is bad for your health. Is he who makes it through the day will go out and invest the next day. Food and water are what come first in every human being's life before any other thing.

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April 21, 2023, 09:20:15 PM
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that's easy to say when u r well fed.

if i have to choose betwixt investing &/ having a meal right now..

i'd pick to eat as well.. ngl.

it is only after ur daily needs r met that u think of investing..

or saving for the future.

Well said!  Some people are too ideal and forget about real stuff.  Investment should be next after meeting the basic needs.  @OP missed the fact that some people are not capable of investing and even providing the basic needs to their families. 

People who don't have enough will obviously choose food over investment.  The need is now and not next month or next year.  Investment yields profit ye,s but the risk of losing is also there.  Investment needs time to profit while a hungry mouth needs it now.

You are right, that the first thing to do if we don't have money is the goods we have to make some money. This is a compulsion because if we have money then we definitely don't want to do this kind of thing. It's still better if we only have thoughts like that, because it's not uncommon when someone is at their wit's end they will do anything, including crime.
How can we invest, while even to make ends meet we are still confused. In conditions like this it's not that we don't want to, but we don't have the ability to do so.

So how can we invest if we don't have money?  We cannot except if you look for a job and offer your service and earn from it.  Investment needs money, we should always remember that.

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Look for what to invest, not what to eat
Make hungry kill me??

It's one who have feed himself that will spare out money for investment, are you advising I should stop thinking about how to feed myself and my household and use the little that I can gather to invest.
Investment is good but we shouldn't think less of our stomach, health is life, heath is wealth. We should think about our health first before talking about investment
Hunger will not kill you orpichukwu , all you need to do is to work hard not to depend on BTC investment alone like what others users are doing in their various environment to grow higher in wealth today. look for where to invest doesn't mean you will not eat because, I know that man cannot survive without food, but we should try have something that will make us great or something good that will carry the name of BTC like the way some richest men and women in our various countries  always proud of what made them wealthy in the country. Am advising those who don't want to change from that attitude of looking for what to eat daily without thinking about their future.

But hunger can lead to starvation that can kill a person, I do agree that in order to prevent hunger, we should look for jobs to earn money and buy food.  Investment is out of the options because we don't have money for it at the time we are looking for money to feed ourselves.

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April 21, 2023, 09:31:58 PM
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Look for what to invest, not what to eat
Make hungry kill me??

It's one who have feed himself that will spare out money for investment, are you advising I should stop thinking about how to feed myself and my household and use the little that I can gather to invest.

Actually the reason is to remind you of what you are to do at the right time you shouldn't concentrate on the spending mostly then the savings which is also investment the process of you keeping your money for future use is an investment
Yes health is life but you can be alive when you dont have something  as an asset
Money that is not spent today can be spent tomorrow

You have quoted wrongly, please edit and make corrections, it's hard to identify you reply and that of mine.
 
that's easy to say when u r well fed.

if i have to choose betwixt investing &/ having a meal right now..

i'd pick to eat as well.. ngl.

it is only after ur daily needs r met that u think of investing..

or saving for the future.

Well said!  Some people are too ideal and forget about real stuff.  Investment should be next after meeting the basic needs.  @OP missed the fact that some people are not capable of investing and even providing the basic needs to their families.  

People who don't have enough will obviously choose food over investment.  The need is now and not next month or next year.  Investment yields profit ye,s but the risk of losing is also there.  Investment needs time to profit while a hungry mouth needs it now.

You are right, that the first thing to do if we don't have money is the goods we have to make some money. This is a compulsion because if we have money then we definitely don't want to do this kind of thing. It's still better if we only have thoughts like that, because it's not uncommon when someone is at their wit's end they will do anything, including crime.
How can we invest, while even to make ends meet we are still confused. In conditions like this it's not that we don't want to, but we don't have the ability to do so.

So how can we invest if we don't have money?  We cannot except if you look for a job and offer your service and earn from it.  Investment needs money, we should always remember that.

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But hunger can lead to starvation that can kill a person, I do agree that in order to prevent hunger, we should look for jobs to earn money and buy food.  Investment is out of the options because we don't have money for it at the time we are looking for money to feed ourselves.

Actually am not saying investment is bad, neither do I not like working, the title of the post, trigger my reply, I invest on few things out of what I earn from my work. But I cannot also leave my stomach empty just to invest.. we are meant to take risk and invest in other to have a better future that's true. I only invest what I can afford to lose which what I have currently as an investment is really okay base on my level of earning.

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April 21, 2023, 09:34:53 PM
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Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
Looking for what to eat is the priority. How can you think of investing if you don't have something in your plate? To invest, it's a must that you're having enough of what you need as a human being and able to provide as well for the needs of your family. If you're already stable in that matter then investing can come next.

Saving and investing are important to have something to count on in the future that's already given. However, we must also attend to what is needed now in order for us to survive especially that inflation is inevitable.
Nobody really does that, OP just created a topic out of nothing. Nobody ever said "I look for what to eat, and not care about investment", everyone knows that you eat first, and then you invest, that's the sorting of it and that's known and that's how everyone acts. Not like we eat our investments, not like we could have invested 5k into bitcoin but instead we went clubbing and ate/drank that much and covered the tabs of everyone or something. Eating is a must, and nobody questions that.

We all invest when we can, but if anyone in the world is thorn apart about eating or investing, they will go with eating. What good does an investment can do when you are hungry, am I gonna eat Bitcoins? I rather eat, but if any money is left after that? Invest.

That is very true. Of course, our basic needs are the first to be served.
And that means our food, shelter, are the first and then, comes the investment.
Not all can afford to invest and that's the fact. They will first make sure their family can eat.
This is why not all people have savings as well. If you don't have extra, how can you allot to other extra expenses?
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April 21, 2023, 09:55:36 PM
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Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
Looking for what to eat is the priority. How can you think of investing if you don't have something in your plate? To invest, it's a must that you're having enough of what you need as a human being and able to provide as well for the needs of your family. If you're already stable in that matter then investing can come next.

Saving and investing are important to have something to count on in the future that's already given. However, we must also attend to what is needed now in order for us to survive especially that inflation is inevitable.
Nobody really does that, OP just created a topic out of nothing. Nobody ever said "I look for what to eat, and not care about investment", everyone knows that you eat first, and then you invest, that's the sorting of it and that's known and that's how everyone acts. Not like we eat our investments, not like we could have invested 5k into bitcoin but instead we went clubbing and ate/drank that much and covered the tabs of everyone or something. Eating is a must, and nobody questions that.

We all invest when we can, but if anyone in the world is thorn apart about eating or investing, they will go with eating. What good does an investment can do when you are hungry, am I gonna eat Bitcoins? I rather eat, but if any money is left after that? Invest.
That is very true. Of course, our basic need is the first to be served.
And that means our food is the first and then, comes the investment.
Not all can afford to invest and that's the fact. They will first make sure their family can eat.
This is why not all people have savings as well. If you don't have extra, how can you allot to other

Then I just want to add something to what you said dude because food is our basic commodity that cannot be lost every day of our lives. So for people who budget just right every day, investing in a business will not really work, unless we have extra money that we can use for this.

Bitcoin is really good for long-term investment, but of course, when we do it we have to wait for time and the right time to sell it we know we have a good profit here, of course, the time we wait we still have to eat every day. So, prioritizing the food we eat is really necessary.



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People who sell their accounts for financial gain may have a reason for doing so, but a literate person who understands what investing entails will never act in such a way; in fact, the majority of us are on this forum to learn more about investing our money for the future. As for me, I can't imagine what would motivate me to act in such a way, as I would much rather borrow money than sell my account.
My advice for any newbie is to never sell anything that will help you get from nothing to something. Although no one can predict the future, it is not a good idea to sell something that is significant to you. Starting from a newbie to rank up an account is not something that is easy; it almost takes a while to get to another.

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Actually am not saying investment is bad, neither do I not like working, the title of the post, trigger my reply, I invest on few things out of what I earn from my work. But I cannot also leave my stomach empty just to invest.. we are meant to take risk and invest in other to have a better future that's true. I only invest what I can afford to lose which what I have currently as an investment is really okay base on my level of earning.
The steps you have taken are very precise, because you are making investments based on your abilities through the income you get so that you are not at all afraid if one day a loss occurs. Investment is not bad as long as the place and product chosen are very good based on demand and interest in it, because a bad investment is in random places where there is no security and in products that are not much in demand.

And I think you are really wise in making decisions when you are still able to share your income between two things in your life where you are still able to think about investing while thinking about stomach contents that cannot be empty. This indicates that you have thought wisely for yourself in trying to build a better future even though everyone does not know how their living conditions will be in the future.

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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table...

Technically, I think the reason why the majority are here in this forum is not just to look for what to eat but as a means of having the funds to invest. You do realize that some people don't have the raw cash to invest with hence they need to take on some service that will fetch the money in other to be able to invest.
Investment is not free, you need capital to do so and this platform gives such opportunities for many to be able to invest, besides, how do you come to that conclusion?
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
It is different for each of us, some of us are in need for fast cash so even though they need and know that they could earn with it they are selling it.
You wouldn't understand it until you are on their position, I even once made the same decision I sold something that I know I could use to earn for a long run, but due to some circumstances I needed to let it go and sell it for a fast cash.



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April 25, 2023, 05:35:49 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

Why separate the two? If you are a wise investor and many financial investment books will tell you this, then you should always be looking around for what's popular. If you see a new shop or restaurant chain is especially busy, then it may be worth taking a look at the share price. If you are familiar with pricing and evaluating a company, you might be surprised that there are often quite a few gems that are overlooked but simple on-the-spot analysis like this can give you an inside loop before results are announced months later. This was a favorite investing strategy of Peter Lynch and it is a very sensible strategy, he was one of the highest performing hedge fund managers for decades.

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April 25, 2023, 06:00:05 PM
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I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home.

Oh really? How? Teach me!  Grin

As to the account selling, what if it's their business and they create multiple accounts, get some merits, improve forum rank and sell them?  Roll Eyes 
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future.

Which of the project are you referring to here, if it's bitcoin then it's a good idea for them to invest, but also consider that all fingers are not equal, some wish they could invest but don't have the ability to do so, to eat has become a difficult task for some people because of the situation they found themselves, to me i think a hungry man that has not eaten anything for the day will prefer eating first before thinking about having some savings for the future to invest on.




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April 26, 2023, 11:21:25 AM
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this sounds very deep words, I agree and also disagree, you also have to pay attention to what you eat because it also depends on your health and your expenses.
so it still has something to do with your investment.
You also have to describe a few words where you disagree in this matter, because everyone in this world will certainly eat healthy food for their own bodies. So that anyone certainly will not forget about health for himself in terms of food even though everyone's income is not all that big because this always happens in a variety of ways because it also depends on everyone's job. So if you talk about it as an investment, it's a very different investment to me.

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April 26, 2023, 02:34:41 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future.

Which of the project are you referring to here, if it's bitcoin then it's a good idea for them to invest, but also consider that all fingers are not equal, some wish they could invest but don't have the ability to do so, to eat has become a difficult task for some people because of the situation they found themselves, to me i think a hungry man that has not eaten anything for the day will prefer eating first before thinking about having some savings for the future to invest on.


You have a point, just imagine how can your work well if you stomach is empty, you cant think well for sure that is why it is better to find food than thinking about earning money for the future, even myself those times that I've lost my job and dont have food to eat, the only thing on my mind is how to survive that day that we could eat then after ill think on where i should apply for work as i cant think well if I'm hungry.
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You can blame people looking for food to eat because we are not in their shoes. One is working and investing hard as to make ends meet what is my gain if I can't feed well after working? Healthy feeding is Healthy living, if you don't want to nurse sickness you will try to eat well because if not that investment you are talking about will be used to pay for medical charges later.

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You can blame people looking for food to eat because we are not in their shoes. One is working and investing hard as to make ends meet what is my gain if I can't feed well after working? Healthy feeding is Healthy living, if you don't want to nurse sickness you will try to eat well because if not that investment you are talking about will be used to pay for medical charges later.
Exactly right. Because not everyone is in good economic condition. So not everyone can afford to invest. sometimes their income is just enough to buy food to just survive. And everyone certainly has the desire to invest for a better future. but indeed not all can do the same thing. because everyone's condition is different. so we cannot blame those who only have income to survive by only buying it food. because at least they need to be in good health to keep earning. because we can invest after our needs are met, including after the need to maintain the health of our bodies.

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Unfortunately, people are always looking for easy ways to gain money without knowledge and making effort. In addition to that, they be spending a lot money on unnecessary goods and items. In my opinion, it is really essential invest in yourself at the beginning instead of wasting your money on un guaranteed profit without education, it would be effective if you try to improve your skills, creativity, decisiveness and knowledge. That’s the first step to achieve success. Regarding your question, it is important to look for both ( what to invest and to eat), that’s how we can reach financial stability and healthy life.
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April 26, 2023, 10:18:08 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future.

Which of the project are you referring to here, if it's bitcoin then it's a good idea for them to invest, but also consider that all fingers are not equal, some wish they could invest but don't have the ability to do so, to eat has become a difficult task for some people because of the situation they found themselves, to me i think a hungry man that has not eaten anything for the day will prefer eating first before thinking about having some savings for the future to invest on.


You have a point, just imagine how can your work well if you stomach is empty, you cant think well for sure that is why it is better to find food than thinking about earning money for the future, even myself those times that I've lost my job and dont have food to eat, the only thing on my mind is how to survive that day that we could eat then after ill think on where i should apply for work as i cant think well if I'm hungry.

I agree since the basic needs that we need to live everyday is the main goal of everyone. It is natural for others to prioritize their needs such as the food that they need rather than thinking of ways to grow their money. The reality is that the only ones who are financially stable in terms of providing their basic need are the ones who are really capable of  what to invest since thinking what to eat is already settled and secured. I think it is always right to prioritize your needs since this would make you alive, but it really wont cause harm if you also try to think improving your life through investing if you can do so since it is also right for us to progress and really move forward to be better in the future.
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April 26, 2023, 11:31:02 PM
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Inasmuch as we are carving for investment we shouldn't forget the sole purpose of life, it is true that investment is very important but what value is the investment if you weren't there to enjoy and benefits from the investment. See mate, people sells properties to get stabilized in life this doesn't mean they aren't futuristic or having plans for their selves, but at some point may wants to fix the missing parts in them before looking forward of making investment.
Investment comes when there's a reasonable amount to invest or a spare money to invest before you could venture into it otherwise, I still believe on this statement that says "Health is Wealth".
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April 27, 2023, 12:55:20 AM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

It is easy for you to say that maybe you have a lot of excess money that can sustain your needs even if you invest in your so cold potential projects. But did you evaluate the situation of each and every person? Not everyone has the capacity to invest. If a person is living in a place that needs a high standard cost of living do you think they can invest? A lot of people are struggling with their expenses even in the food they eat they would rather buy first their food rather than to go hungry and invest. You need to eat to survive. And for sure if the people have an excess savings they would invest.

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April 27, 2023, 12:25:50 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

It is easy for you to say that maybe you have a lot of excess money that can sustain your needs even if you invest in your so cold potential projects. But did you evaluate the situation of each and every person? Not everyone has the capacity to invest. If a person is living in a place that needs a high standard cost of living do you think they can invest? A lot of people are struggling with their expenses even in the food they eat they would rather buy first their food rather than to go hungry and invest. You need to eat to survive. And for sure if the people have an excess savings they would invest.
of course what we are looking for is to eat but more is used for the things we want be it for additional needs or lifestyle or investing, and if the money we have is only enough to meet the basic needs of life of course there is no need to argue anymore that that's the most important thing than investing, but it all comes back to each of us to be able to get up and make more money so we can invest.

if you make money just to eat, I think it's a big mistake in life, don't blame your little money, but build yourself up even more to be able to earn more money so you can meet your needs, desires and invest for the future.



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April 27, 2023, 01:14:57 PM
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Food is a staple for humans. So it's natural for someone to want and buy good food. But we shouldn't be too extravagant either. Investing can also meet the needs of life. Investment returns can also be for food, costs and others. So both are equally important.

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Not everyone here have the same situation and opportunity just like yours. We can't really say anything about people who chooses to look for something to eat rather than investing. I get that investing is a big thing and can help us but would you still continue to use your last money to invest when you're already starving and have nothing else?
It's only advisable to invest if you have extra money or a money you can afford to lose. But what if you don't have? How will a person invest?

I get op's point that choosing to invest can help us in the future to feed us and support our needs. Of course if I have the means, I will also choose to invest for my future. But not in every situation future comes first when you already have nothing in the present.
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April 27, 2023, 01:38:51 PM
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Food is a staple for humans. So it's natural for someone to want and buy good food. But we shouldn't be too extravagant either. Investing can also meet the needs of life. Investment returns can also be for food, costs and others. So both are equally important.

But you should also prioritize things like don't focus on one as it is not good like if you only focus on investing for sure you'll have nothing to it, and if you focus on food then for sure you don't have savings, but still this depends on the situation that is why you should balance everything like while focusing on earning so that we have food on our plate we should also save or allot for our investments as again it can brought to us profit.
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April 27, 2023, 01:41:53 PM
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if you make money just to eat, I think it's a big mistake in life, don't blame your little money, but build yourself up even more to be able to earn more money so you can meet your needs, desires and invest for the future.
I think some people only make money to eat because of limitations in making money and that is not a big mistake in life because it is our way of survival. Even though they are like that, they still believe that one day their lives can change and even though they can't enjoy it, they hope their children will.



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April 27, 2023, 07:02:27 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

At the bolded, do you mean you know people with accounts that can bring themselves out of poverty by working from this forum? Hmmm sound interesting, inflation must have eaten them badly for the small number of dollars they earn from the forum to put things on the table, but in a nice and working economy, I am not sure if the forum earning can fetch you enough money that can sustain you weekly or monthly.

We all don't think in the same way, the way Mr 1 think of investment and mode of approach will be different from that of Mr. 2 even if they have the same orientation, some people invest because of many reasons. I have seen some people that invest only to use the capital and the profits to help people who are in need and I also some of them that live expensive life after making money in the bull run, you can't define to people how they should use their money, at least that will save you from being a financial adviser if things go wrong.

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April 28, 2023, 04:31:29 PM
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Food is a staple for humans. So it's natural for someone to want and buy good food. But we shouldn't be too extravagant either. Investing can also meet the needs of life. Investment returns can also be for food, costs and others. So both are equally important.
In fact, it is both a necessity now, because a person who is hungry cannot think about investing other than thinking about what is in his own stomach. And vice versa, someone who doesn't want to invest in his life, he also won't be comfortable in his life forever and will rarely eat well because he doesn't make his money a better source of income. So it has become an equally important thing today.

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April 28, 2023, 07:00:29 PM
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Make hungry kill me??

It's one who have feed himself that will spare out money for investment, are you advising I should stop thinking about how to feed myself and my household and use the little that I can gather to invest.
Investment is good but we shouldn't think less of our stomach, health is life, heath is wealth. We should think about our health first before talking about investment

That's the point because if we work hard for money day and night then we achieved large amount of money but we loss out health then there is no need of wealth because we will always give priority to our health and not wealth. Yes it's true that money is a crucial thing for life but for money we cannot ignore our health so first think what to eat and then thing about investment with the remaining amount of cash. If we are healthy we can do everything like we can earn, finding new opportunities for getting cash but it we don't have health then we will be unable to earn money well.









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April 28, 2023, 07:46:15 PM
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Food is a staple for humans. So it's natural for someone to want and buy good food. But we shouldn't be too extravagant either. Investing can also meet the needs of life. Investment returns can also be for food, costs and others. So both are equally important.
In fact, it is both a necessity now, because a person who is hungry cannot think about investing other than thinking about what is in his own stomach. And vice versa, someone who doesn't want to invest in his life, he also won't be comfortable in his life forever and will rarely eat well because he doesn't make his money a better source of income. So it has become an equally important thing today.
everything is important when viewed from a certain point of view. and indeed there are conditions that make us forced to prioritize food. and don't think about making money with money first. because our stomach can't hold hunger and like it or not we have to prioritize food to restore our energy so we can work harder to make money. but indeed we have to become more effective individuals in financial management. like buying raw food that we cook ourselves so we can save a little on our expenses. and can set it aside to save or invest. but well everyone can't do the same thing because they have different conditions.

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I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home.

Oh really? How? Teach me!  Grin

As to the account selling, what if it's their business and they create multiple accounts, get some merits, improve forum rank and sell them?  Roll Eyes 
This is just too funny from op perspective.
I still don't get it how it relate with the topic on investing. Anybody that choose to sell account or do whatever they like with what they have shoudl never be our problem. We have different problems and with random solutions so we all have to understand what our need is before we execute it. Yes, it will be wise if we invest our money for await the future to bless us with what we have endeavour to save.
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April 28, 2023, 09:26:33 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

In my personal opinion, invest when we are ready to invest, don't invest when we are not ready to fulfill our primary needs first, then we start investing because investment should not be arbitrary, investment must use idle money because investment assets will grow in the future.
I think it is very difficult to start investing but have not met our needs in life

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In my personal opinion, invest when we are ready to invest, don't invest when we are not ready to fulfill our primary needs first, then we start investing because investment should not be arbitrary, investment must use idle money because investment assets will grow in the future.
I think it is very difficult to start investing but have not met our needs in life

Every person has different needs in life. Therefore, many people, no matter how much they earn, will never have money left to invest. Sooner or later the needs of life will lead to the destruction of all cash reserves. That's why smart investing is a necessity, otherwise you just can't survive.
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You can blame people looking for food to eat because we are not in their shoes. One is working and investing hard as to make ends meet what is my gain if I can't feed well after working? Healthy feeding is Healthy living, if you don't want to nurse sickness you will try to eat well because if not that investment you are talking about will be used to pay for medical charges later.
I don't blame anybody for such attitude, than to encourage them to look for something doing that will make them to avoid looking for something to eat on the time in the community because they can be the one supply people what to eat if they can pain the sacrifice now by invest for future purpose. Nothing will stop you not to feed well guy when working or investing in a Particular investment , what I mean is that don't be a type of person that is always looking for daily bread without thinking about his or her future life. If truly you want to get out from that attitude just try your best to bear what you are going to experience along the process because is not easy for someone to focus on his or her goals than food at the moment.

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if we have enough for economic problems maybe the words as you say are very appropriate, so in this case it all depends on our needs and the input we receive every day, currently there are very many investors selling the assets they currently have without any profit but because of urgency everything they have to do by force, it's not that they don't know the profit they will get for the future will meet all their needs later but because of urgency they have to let go of everything, so we have our own type and all depending on our current situation.

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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
In my opinion, the ability to give up the joys of today in order to obtain a positive result in the future is an attribute of a highly developed personality. 

Most people are ready to give up grandiose successes in the future, for the sake of momentary joys of life. 

This, in fact, is the main difference between tactical thinking and strategic thinking.  Investing is a human activity based on the willingness to give up today's gains for greater future gains.  At the same time, such a strategy is always associated with risk. 

A person can make a mistake and incorrectly assess the prospect of an investment object.  This will lead him to losses - while he will suffer losses twice (both in the present tense and in the future tense). 

Most people would prefer not to take risks in such a situation.

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When consider to the developing or under developing country people,most of them was starving to get food for the day.They even hard to get their 3 day a meal.Some may get just getting two times of meal in a day.So average of they getting 60 times of meal instead of 90 times meal of the month.This was hard news to just hear,just imagine for just two minutes about it.It was unaccepted one,because we all earning for the meal money.But some one is not having for monthly meal fully is heart touching one.If you had full meal,kindly concentrate on the trading for your future.We are lazy about the savings,but it was essential one.And keep your savings in the bitcoin as compared to other cryptocurrencies for the safety and huge returns.
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When consider to the developing or under developing country people,most of them was starving to get food for the day.They even hard to get their 3 day a meal.Some may get just getting two times of meal in a day.So average of they getting 60 times of meal instead of 90 times meal of the month.This was hard news to just hear,just imagine for just two minutes about it.It was unaccepted one,because we all earning for the meal money.But some one is not having for monthly meal fully is heart touching one.If you had full meal,kindly concentrate on the trading for your future.We are lazy about the savings,but it was essential one.And keep your savings in the bitcoin as compared to other cryptocurrencies for the safety and huge returns.

If all the money goes to food, how do you get out of poverty? Only with luck, credit, and smart investments. Without credit, it is almost impossible to change your life in this case. And investing in bitcoin now is unprofitable because it won't generate the returns it will in 2017 and 2021. And not everyone can afford to wait 3 or more years.
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In my personal opinion, invest when we are ready to invest, don't invest when we are not ready to fulfill our primary needs first, then we start investing because investment should not be arbitrary, investment must use idle money because investment assets will grow in the future.
I think it is very difficult to start investing but have not met our needs in life

Every person has different needs in life. Therefore, many people, no matter how much they earn, will never have money left to invest. Sooner or later the needs of life will lead to the destruction of all cash reserves. That's why smart investing is a necessity, otherwise you just can't survive.

It's not that they don't have money to invest, it's that they don't want to invest and don't believe in it. So they use their money to spend on daily living until they run out of money. What they don't realize is that there comes a time when they get old and can't make any money, but by the time they realize, it's too late.

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When someone earns income, they think that they will continue to earn this income, so it is too easy for them to waste money on pleasures such as food, clothes, gadgets and others, if we want to live in prosperity, this mindset must be changed immediately, it is better to invest immediately so that we can get big profits and not be poor.
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Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

Obviously food is more important than investing. What good does a big portfolio if we don't have enough money to buy food? Over the last 2 years food prices have risen a lot, we still face inflation rates of 8-10% today. That makes life very difficult for some families and I agree to focus on the essential things in life before investing. But once we have some spare money left at the end of the months we should definitely invest it. The high inflation makes sure that our cash and savings become worthless over time. The only way out of the inflation trap is to invest. Why not consider combining our need for food and investing. We could look for companies that produce and distribute food and would directly profit from the rising food prices. Or if we have some more money at hand we could look for buying some cheap farm land and rent it out to the local farmers. And instead of asking for monetary payments we could ask to get paid in produce. Getting access to healthy and fresh food became harder during the covid pandemic and will likely get even more expensive in the future.

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Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

Obviously food is more important than investing. What good does a big portfolio if we don't have enough money to buy food? Over the last 2 years food prices have risen a lot, we still face inflation rates of 8-10% today. That makes life very difficult for some families and I agree to focus on the essential things in life before investing. But once we have some spare money left at the end of the months we should definitely invest it. The high inflation makes sure that our cash and savings become worthless over time. The only way out of the inflation trap is to invest. Why not consider combining our need for food and investing. We could look for companies that produce and distribute food and would directly profit from the rising food prices. Or if we have some more money at hand we could look for buying some cheap farm land and rent it out to the local farmers. And instead of asking for monetary payments we could ask to get paid in produce. Getting access to healthy and fresh food became harder during the covid pandemic and will likely get even more expensive in the future.


The problem with the people who keep struggling is not because of their small income but because they cannot handle their finance very well. They cannot have spare money because they do not have good financial literacy wherein they keep buying things that can be called as liabilities and disregarding buying assets that can help them to have better life. There are a lot of factors why they do not have good financial literacy, One of the factors is the government in 3rd world countries wherein they do not prioritize education and that's why there are many financial illiterate because of that. The other factor is poverty can be inherited, many people do not aware about it.

Poverty is a state of mind wherein they only see scarcity and there is no abundance in their vocubulary. Right mindset and good education can be the key to overcome it. People will start investing if they have good financial literacy so the goverment or the leaders in different community should have program regarding it targerting the poor class people that can help them to overcome their problem financial and start making investments.
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April 30, 2023, 10:13:14 AM
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It is important to find balance between investing and spending based on our financial goals and risk tolerance. We need to know first our financial priorities and what should be done first. If you are a regular employee and your salary is just enough to buy your daily needs like food then that is your top priority. If you have excess money then you can allocate them to investments.  It is hard for regular employees with a not so high salary to look for investment is because their funds is not enough.

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It is important to find balance between investing and spending based on our financial goals and risk tolerance. We need to know first our financial priorities and what should be done first. If you are a regular employee and your salary is just enough to buy your daily needs like food then that is your top priority. If you have excess money then you can allocate them to investments.  It is hard for regular employees with a not so high salary to look for investment is because their funds is not enough.

Balance is important in everything. It's why the headline doesn't make much sense, we should look at everything, why we should do anything before we give it a thought? Those who don't look at the table can face some serious health problems, and health should be more important than everything else. But those who wish to save on food should look for some appropriate ways for that... look for discounts, eat at home and make food at home when going to work, etc. I don't remember the last time I went to a restaurant with my family, but we often make the same food at home. That way is a lot cheaper... with drinks.

When looking at everything around we are getting aware of the situation, knowing more will minimize risks and can save us from running into some disaster. And doing something at the expense of something else can/will cause some problems in the long run if you are not fully aware of what are you doing and you have a plan to find some balance at some point. Simple as that.

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It's not that they don't have money to invest, it's that they don't want to invest and don't believe in it. So they use their money to spend on daily living until they run out of money. What they don't realize is that there comes a time when they get old and can't make any money, but by the time they realize, it's too late.

This might be wrong thou. I don't know where you live but here in my country 1/3 of the country population is struggling with a daily feeding and hardly acquire 2 meal a day instead of normal 3 meals a day. In this case, it's unfair to say that this people don't want to invest or do not believe in investment. Majority of these people despite their struggle engage in one little investment or the other ranging from fowl, goat and rabbit rearing. From observation, one would understand that they are actually interested in investment but their limited earnings stop them from expanding their investments.

The OP however failed to understands that there's no investment better than healthy life. There is absolutely no point in boasting of investment while hunger is slowly dealing with you. My advice to OP and everyone reading this is to invest reasonably and take good care of yourself too. Do not allow yourself to battle with hunger while you have investment hidden somewhere. Others might spend it when you finally kick the bucket due to shortage of feeding.  Grin

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April 30, 2023, 11:58:12 PM
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As other users have mentioned, unfortunately some people do not have a choice. Plus, why look for something to invest in when you already have Bitcoin? If you can spare the money, put it into a long-term hold of Bitcoin and turn what would have been one meal into two or three in the future. I think the better advice is, look how to grow in the long term, not how to earn quick money to spend.
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This is like what most people say as "Easy Said That Done" we are not all the same mate , there are people that can use their belts to tighten their waste not to feel the hunger , but there are also people that cannot stand without eating what they wanted as they are working to eat.
so maybe some can do? but many cannot mate.

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May 01, 2023, 03:24:42 AM
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They are equally important, food is needed by our body from time to time. Our account here in the forum can be a tool for us to get profit somehow depending on the rank, the higher the rank the better because somehow it can give us immediate profit and help us to buy food somehow.

       So if you ask me I will not sell my account here on the forum to other people despite knowing that it is also prohibited on this platform. Then our account can be of great help here if it is used correctly.



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In my personal opinion, invest when we are ready to invest, don't invest when we are not ready to fulfill our primary needs first, then we start investing because investment should not be arbitrary, investment must use idle money because investment assets will grow in the future.
I think it is very difficult to start investing but have not met our needs in life
Every person has different needs in life. Therefore, many people, no matter how much they earn, will never have money left to invest. Sooner or later the needs of life will lead to the destruction of all cash reserves. That's why smart investing is a necessity, otherwise you just can't survive.
I think the best thing to do in that case is force yourself to save if you are not going to starve because of that, then it should be done. I personally do not have a lot of money, but even if it is as little as 50 dollars I end up saving some money aside. This is how you make more money, I have a lot of debt, and I have to live and pay bills and such, but even with that I keep on investing, why? Because that allows me to grow bigger.

My debt may stay there, I can live with that, but my investment can grow much faster than that. This is why it's important to keep saving some money aside at all times. However, if you are at a level where you are having some trouble saving money, then the better thing to do would be making more money instead.

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May 01, 2023, 12:12:08 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

It is because you need to balance the need of our future and the needs of your current situation.
In the surface, maybe you're right that it is a missed opportunity. That it is foolish decision you ever heard. But there probably a story behind. I think instead of spreading bitterness, let this post be an awareness to others. To not let your current situation downgrade your future investments and especially your dreams.


In my personal opinion, invest when we are ready to invest, don't invest when we are not ready to fulfill our primary needs first, then we start investing because investment should not be arbitrary, investment must use idle money because investment assets will grow in the future.
I think it is very difficult to start investing but have not met our needs in life
Every person has different needs in life. Therefore, many people, no matter how much they earn, will never have money left to invest. Sooner or later the needs of life will lead to the destruction of all cash reserves. That's why smart investing is a necessity, otherwise you just can't survive.
I think the best thing to do in that case is force yourself to save if you are not going to starve because of that, then it should be done. I personally do not have a lot of money, but even if it is as little as 50 dollars I end up saving some money aside. This is how you make more money, I have a lot of debt, and I have to live and pay bills and such, but even with that I keep on investing, why? Because that allows me to grow bigger.

My debt may stay there, I can live with that, but my investment can grow much faster than that. This is why it's important to keep saving some money aside at all times. However, if you are at a level where you are having some trouble saving money, then the better thing to do would be making more money instead.

This is a great practice. To really have a reserve funds. So that if there is any difficult times that occur, everything are still under control. No need to sell investments. No need to panic. All things in life have risk I believe. it is just a matter how well we live with it. Do we run away from it? Do we run toward something?

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May 01, 2023, 03:28:39 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

What kind of psychology is it? Do you know what you are talking about, Are you in your senses ? Sorry to say but I cant understand your investment theory because it doesn't prove itself to be true in any kind of aspect relating it to reality. Do you know how many people in this world don't even afford 2-time meals in a day? My Allah promised the basic needs of resources for his creation, but never promised the comfort of life it's based on the efforts a person can make. I can understand that what you are trying to say on a point your theory is for the Middle-class people not for the Poor ones.

If I am poor then I will try to think of what I can eat today and what can I provide my family to eat today not about where I can invest today. Life is not easy in this world of Choas, Yes I can plan a better future by making investments and securing some good privileges in the future, my life will be easy if I use to invest but I don't need all of them. Because I don't have enough to eat today so how can I even think about tomorrow? So buddy investment is important but you can say what to eat is not important, for some people its the matter for the whole life.

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May 01, 2023, 05:33:12 PM
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Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
Different issues between eating and investing, different views, people without investing they also eat, I think your method is not right to combine eating with investing.

The investment problem does not lie in eating, investment lies in principle and will, no matter how full and how luxurious the food is, if there is no will to invest, they still don't do it, that's someone's principle.

Now there are many ways for someone if they want to invest in crypto, especially Bitcoin, not having to wait to be full in terms of food, have you ever heard of a poor farmer who became a billionaire because of Bitcoin investment, that's why we here never know someone just to eat or invest. all of us here have a goal to boost their economy financially, only they themselves know.

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Many people spend money just for consumption, the presence of a youtube channel that reviews culinary stuff makes anyone want to try the menu, but if we think about old age that is coming soon then it's appropriate for us to divert all that money for better things, namely investment.
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

What kind of psychology is it? Do you know what you are talking about, Are you in your senses ? Sorry to say but I cant understand your investment theory because it doesn't prove itself to be true in any kind of aspect relating it to reality. Do you know how many people in this world don't even afford 2-time meals in a day? My Allah promised the basic needs of resources for his creation, but never promised the comfort of life it's based on the efforts a person can make. I can understand that what you are trying to say on a point your theory is for the Middle-class people not for the Poor ones.

If I am poor then I will try to think of what I can eat today and what can I provide my family to eat today not about where I can invest today. Life is not easy in this world of Choas, Yes I can plan a better future by making investments and securing some good privileges in the future, my life will be easy if I use to invest but I don't need all of them. Because I don't have enough to eat today so how can I even think about tomorrow? So buddy investment is important but you can say what to eat is not important, for some people its the matter for the whole life.
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May 02, 2023, 11:08:34 AM
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Well, it's not the same with investing, we want to be more active. 
If we want to be able to get into any potential projects for investments, then investing shouldn't be enough.   
Instead, investment needs to be a long-term investment.   
If you want to start looking for something new, invest in cryptocurrencies, and invest into it
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May 02, 2023, 12:11:57 PM
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Many people spend money just for consumption, the presence of a youtube channel that reviews culinary stuff makes anyone want to try the menu, but if we think about old age that is coming soon then it's appropriate for us to divert all that money for better things, namely investment.

Consumption in the form of necessities of life is something that is always needed by everyone in their life, because if you live only to endure hunger because you don't want to spend the money you already have, in my opinion that is very ridiculous. There's nothing wrong with having a YouTube channel that reviews many things, including culinary matters, because that is also very useful for those who do business in the restaurant and cafe sector.

In addition, those who like to try new culinary delights to consume at home are also not a problem in my opinion because they also don't eat those culinary delights every day, but rather the staple foods they often consume every day. After all, the investment is not something that should be forced because the investment can be done according to each level of ability without having to starve for it.

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If we only think about eating then we will be in trouble, many people can endure hunger and use money for useful things like investment, the presence of cryptocurrencies is a good thing because we can get full profit and control because we don't need third party services like in stocks or banks.


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May 03, 2023, 06:39:04 AM
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Many people spend money just for consumption, the presence of a youtube channel that reviews culinary stuff makes anyone want to try the menu, but if we think about old age that is coming soon then it's appropriate for us to divert all that money for better things, namely investment.
Consumption in the form of necessities of life is something that is always needed by everyone in their life, because if you live only to endure hunger because you don't want to spend the money you already have, in my opinion that is very ridiculous. There's nothing wrong with having a YouTube channel that reviews many things, including culinary matters, because that is also very useful for those who do business in the restaurant and cafe sector.

In addition, those who like to try new culinary delights to consume at home are also not a problem in my opinion because they also don't eat those culinary delights every day, but rather the staple foods they often consume every day. After all, the investment is not something that should be forced because the investment can be done according to each level of ability without having to starve for it.
I do agree that consumption is a must when you eat minimum and spend minimum, you survive, not live. Living is something else, do not go overboard and get in debt, do not buy things you do not need just because you want them, know your level, but if you put a too harsh constraint on yourself, you would never live. Plus if you always try to cutback on what you spend, you would never grow and that's not a good thing.

You need to keep on growing and making more money, we are in the crypto and you could always make more, and you should aim at making more. If people mistake surviving with living, they will always be small and never grow, people who are super wealthy always looked for a way to have more money, not spend less money, that is not the way to grow.

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The biggest mistake you can ever made is using yourself to judge how others are living their lives, if you think you know, you are wrong....

Some people are not doing well in their lives and they are good at covering it up, you will meet them and think they are doing well. How would you know when you are not living under the same roof? People are facing a lot of hardship my brothers and sisters. All what the majority of people need is food, if you can feed yourself and your family three times daily you have no idea what your creator has done for you.

Investment can easily change your life, but if your life is not in good shape you will not live to enjoy everything you sow with your hands, do not judge others, instead help those that really need help.

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When we invite people to invest, the first thing they say is they are not interested, they feel that the current income will last until they are old and will not experience financial problems anymore, the fact that happens is that many people panic and sell assets when there is a sudden need, for example sick, it's time for us to invest to make the future better.


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May 04, 2023, 02:03:34 PM
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If we only think about eating then we will be in trouble, many people can endure hunger and use money for useful things like investment, the presence of cryptocurrencies is a good thing because we can get full profit and control because we don't need third party services like in stocks or banks.
Eating is part of the need and it should always be thought of by everyone who still has a soul in their body, because I don't think that those who hold hunger can invest calmly in something. And I'm also not sure that you will be willing to starve to make an investment, because when you fall sick as a result of starving, you will also sacrifice your investment to make yourself healthy again.

For me it is very unreasonable to try to hold hunger in order to be able to invest, even though the investment can also be made with a small amount if you really want to be able to have an investment. So in my opinion it is not the best solution to make an investment if someone has to endure hunger or sacrifice their stomach which should be filled, but prefers to be empty. It's really sad mate.

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May 04, 2023, 02:29:52 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
Just focusing out on account sales and doesnt mind about that potential earnings through campaigns and other possible jobs that they could get on this forum which it is really true that you could really be able to earn but of course it would really be depending on the account rank you do have because not all would really be able to get that good income plus not all people are really that making signature campaigns as a stable
job.This is why it wouldnt really be wise if you do consider sigcamps to be the reason on putting up food on your table this is why it would really be better not to mind up this way.
It isnt a right but rather a priveledge which is something not all would really be have the chance to be chosen.

Its true that we do need to make out some sacrifices in life for us to have a better future via investment but it would really be still varying or depending on what investment you've been dealing with
because not all investment turns out to be positive and this is why we should really be that careful on what we should  really be choosing up. Invest on what you can afford to lose
and its always better to have a day job and making out signature campaigns and other forum jobs to be your sideline on which this would be the best choice
to make.

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May 04, 2023, 02:31:53 PM
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Eating is part of the need and it should always be thought of by everyone who still has a soul in their body, because I don't think that those who hold hunger can invest calmly in something. And I'm also not sure that you will be willing to starve to make an investment, because when you fall sick as a result of starving, you will also sacrifice your investment to make yourself healthy again.

For me it is very unreasonable to try to hold hunger in order to be able to invest, even though the investment can also be made with a small amount if you really want to be able to have an investment. So in my opinion it is not the best solution to make an investment if someone has to endure hunger or sacrifice their stomach which should be filled, but prefers to be empty. It's really sad mate.
Until a person is full, he will not have a comfortable home, he will not think about anything else, these are the basic needs that should be provided in the first place. The next step will be to provide a decent income that will allow you to save something, and only after that it will be possible to think about further investments. Investing is also a very complex activity and failures can follow without experience, so it is all a complex and long process that does not guarantee success.

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May 04, 2023, 02:52:50 PM
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If we only think about eating then we will be in trouble, many people can endure hunger and use money for useful things like investment, the presence of cryptocurrencies is a good thing because we can get full profit and control because we don't need third party services like in stocks or banks.
Eating is part of the need and it should always be thought of by everyone who still has a soul in their body, because I don't think that those who hold hunger can invest calmly in something. And I'm also not sure that you will be willing to starve to make an investment, because when you fall sick as a result of starving, you will also sacrifice your investment to make yourself healthy again.

For me it is very unreasonable to try to hold hunger in order to be able to invest, even though the investment can also be made with a small amount if you really want to be able to have an investment. So in my opinion it is not the best solution to make an investment if someone has to endure hunger or sacrifice their stomach which should be filled, but prefers to be empty. It's really sad mate.
I think it's impossible that there are people in this world who sacrifice their guts to invest, it's really a strange thing that we can save money in meeting our necessities of life but that doesn't mean we have to refrain from basic needs, that's too much.
Moreover, investment does not guarantee that it will always be profitable.
all you have to do is find more money to be able to set aside to invest after making ends meet.
do not hold back for anything, because we also have the right to enjoy what has been obtained from the hard work we have done.

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May 04, 2023, 04:41:22 PM
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When someone earns income, they think that they will continue to earn this income, so it is too easy for them to waste money on pleasures such as food, clothes, gadgets and others, if we want to live in prosperity, this mindset must be changed immediately, it is better to invest immediately so that we can get big profits and not be poor.

If we want to live in some sort of prosperity, then it is advisable to first start to live within your means and cut all extravagant expenses that If you think of it, are actually not really important. Spending moderately on necessities such as food and clothing can’t be considered as a waste. Breaking your bank to acquire a latest model of a gadget  in my opinion, could be considered wasting.
Investing immediately wouldn’t give you big profits overnight if it actually gives any profits later on. So you can’t suddenly not be poor just cause of investing.
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May 16, 2023, 09:09:39 AM
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I think the best thing to do in that case is force yourself to save if you are not going to starve because of that, then it should be done. I personally do not have a lot of money, but even if it is as little as 50 dollars I end up saving some money aside. This is how you make more money, I have a lot of debt, and I have to live and pay bills and such, but even with that I keep on investing, why? Because that allows me to grow bigger.

My debt may stay there, I can live with that, but my investment can grow much faster than that. This is why it's important to keep saving some money aside at all times. However, if you are at a level where you are having some trouble saving money, then the better thing to do would be making more money instead.
Saving is an important thing, but if you are forcing yourself not to eat or eat less just to make an investment, that's not a good thing. Food in my nation is very expensive as well and I have to work very hard to provide food for my family.

This month may finally be one where we can pay a bit, not going to be easy at all but it is going to be at least easier compared to other months. But that doesn't mean that we should be giving up, we should be eating as well as we can, and trying to make investment even when you have debt is not smart move. Pay all your debt, and save whenever you have money you can save aside, otherwise that's going to cause a lot of trouble for you and will result with a terrible return without a doubt.

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May 16, 2023, 04:02:55 PM
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What do you think.

I think Investing in potential projects can be a wise decision in the long term, because it can bring financial stability and growth. However, it is important to be careful and avoid putting all of one's resources into an investment. On the other hand, it is considered necessary to consider one's current financial situation and prioritize meeting basic needs before making any investment decisions. Each individual's circumstances are unique, and not everyone has the same opportunities or resources available to them. Therefore, it is important to be realistic and make decisions based on one's individual circumstances.

I agree with your analyses that it is important to prioritize basic needs first before investments. This is true because investment is a secondary need. Despite the importance of investment, we need to at least meet our basic needs before talking about investing. Of course we can cut down the money we spend on food, live in affordable homes and avoid very expensive designer clothes and extravagant life styles, so we can have enough left to invest. We need to eat so we can be alive and in good health to enjoy investment benefits.

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Investment, folks, it's a puzzle, a labyrinth. And tackling social and economic divides? Critical. Many are scraping by, and investment? Just a dream. But listen up: investments aren't exclusive to the middle class or the rich. They can be a golden ticket out of poverty, a stable financial future. Hard work? Absolutely, but achievable.

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Investment is a complex matter for most people, because they have little money at the end of the month to spare with applications, since the costs of living, food and health cosume their entire wages along the month. Moreover, an investment is usually made aiming long term results, not overnight profit, as many inexperienced newbies investors in crypto universe imagine. Investment takes time to bring results and the investor must be patient and prepared to wait, so he must have other sources of income meanwhile in order to let the investment untouched.

When this rule isn't followed, the investment becomes worthless and unprofitable... The investor's approach and planning make total difference when venturing into this field. If it's not to this on the right way, better to not dare starting then.

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It's right and your words are correct because a person can understand only if he spend the same life otherwise its hard to understand others. Investment and eating both are important but if a person has not enough money to eat then he will forget about the Investment and will work better for earning that amount which will be enough to eat well and of good quality.

Investment can be done only when you have an extra amount of money because if you invest and after sometimes you need it so neither you will use it due to fear of losing nor you will save it as you need it for daily expenses.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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Well it would depend on the person's financial situation and goals. Investing can potentially lead to a long term financial growth while focusing on immediate expenses can lead to a short term stability. If you have extra funds available and you are interested in growing your wealth over time, investing can be a wise decision for you. But if you are struggling to cover basic expenses like food and housing, it maybe more important to focus on immediate needs. You may look into other ways to increase your income or reduce your expenses in order to create a more financial stability. The decision to invest or focus on daily expenses depends on your individual financial situation and goals. It is important to weigh the pros and cons of each option and make an informed decision based on your needs and priorities.

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It is better to invest with courage. You have to believe that today's investment is the future. Whatever you invest will be able to fulfill your expectations after a few days. That is why investment is important.

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It is better to invest with courage. You have to believe that today's investment is the future. Whatever you invest will be able to fulfill your expectations after a few days. That is why investment is important.
With the condition that we must know where we have to put a safe and potential investment. Through a lot of analysis and careful monitoring. because investing cannot be done rashly because this concerns the assets that we put and we hope to develop into more in the future. using money for things that are more useful is of course the main thing, especially to meet basic needs. and the remaining money must also be saved effectively, namely for future savings or investment.

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People are sure about the return from an investment. However we were able to experience massive losses on some occasions which were completely unexpected. So, investment too kind of gamble. You'll invest today with the expectation to eat tomorrow, but you won't get the food. In such situation what can be done. For two days you weren't able to feed yourself, the next day your mind won't function perfectly to analyse the market. So, the importance of food is high than an investment.

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People are sure about the return from an investment. However we were able to experience massive losses on some occasions which were completely unexpected. So, investment too kind of gamble. You'll invest today with the expectation to eat tomorrow, but you won't get the food. In such situation what can be done. For two days you weren't able to feed yourself, the next day your mind won't function perfectly to analyse the market. So, the importance of food is high than an investment.

That is why if you have spare money, that is the time you'll invest, not investing first before your basic needs because you are right, and on the 4th day for sure, you'll be unable to stand up and continue your daily routine because you prioritize investment over food. As others said, we should not always chase money; we should also take care of our needs because what will you do with your money if you are now buried? Make it balanced, eat healthy foods, and at the same time, try to analyze where you are going to invest.
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home.

My dear sometimes is the mental that humans have that's the problem, the way we think has a way of affecting us positively or negatively, some will say "you need strength to do things that would fetch you money" which is true because you can't do things on an empty stomach. But looking at it on the brighter side, life is all about risk and there are few others who sees life that way. If you can't take risk then you'd think low and nothing positive can come out of it, just eating and eating without looking for a way to multiple, that's why some people remain poor. If you see users selling their account it doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing, that's business on the other side, and don't be deceived by what you see.


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I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.

Talking about users who use their account to invest from what they get from it, my dear is just that they have a target. Not everybody who gets paid can use his or her money wisely. Some can see making money as a means of spending more than investing, that's what lack of planning does to ones mind, you can't think of a lucrative business to engage in only spending lavishly. There's nothing wrong in spending but spend wisely, take care of yourself, do things to keep you fresh, enjoy your money but remember that it has to be replaced.

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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future.
It doesn't work that way. One has to eat (feed) first before investing. If one keeps saving up for investment and neglect eating, the repercussions are there and will reflect on one's health. Stomach Ulcer is often around the corner for those who do such. What will be the benefit of such investment if one doesn't have good health to reap what one is sowing? Feeding (food) is one of the primary needs of man but investment isn't. There's a reason for that classification. Only a man who is alive knows he has an investment somewhere. The ideal thing is to balance one's earnings between feeding, investment and miscellaneous. However, in all of that, feeding comes first.

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In today's economic conditions, unfortunately, people are focused on what they can consume in order to continue their struggle for life. Although the financial markets are in a bad condition, the downtrend will not continue forever but in such a market, many people are afraid to invest in order not to lose their money. Naturally, people who do not have any income other than salary income instead of focusing on investing, strive to continue their struggle for life. While there are many opportunities today, it is also very important to focus on how to make money from here but depending on the circumstances we see that many people are focused on feeding and sustaining their lives.

We have to adapt to today's economic conditions and manage our lives in a way but if we miss these opportunities without focusing on investment opportunities we unfortunately contribute to the continuation of our lives in this way. For this reason, it is very important to balance this fine line between life and investment opportunities and to evaluate investment opportunities.
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

You really have never needs to worry about what to eat for tomorrow, or if you can eat anything at all. For some people eating regularly is even luxury. You will not, even slightly, think about any investment if you still need to worry whether you will eat tomorrow or not man. It is good that you criticize how some people are just looking for some cheap money on this forum, but your argument was just really ignorant and arrogant.

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Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
In order to survive you must have food as a need that must be met and there is no way when this need is not properly met, therefore a method is needed to generate money in order to be able to provide this need for the family. Without a job, it will be difficult for people to achieve equality in life both in terms of preparing food, shelter and other expenses deemed necessary for the family. Many people are unable to get out of the dependency system and hope that a source of income will come by itself, but what needs to be understood is that without preparation and steps taken finances can never change and improve.

Of course investment is a step for you to prepare your finances better and in this way we can increase your income slowly by following the required process. Invest what you can do and never push beyond your ability to be responsible, without any preparation our finances will not improve therefore planning is needed.

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June 24, 2023, 04:39:04 AM
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In the initial post, I see the advice to make a choice between food and investment. As if some people should spend less money on food to invest more in crypto. But it doesn't work that way with basic needs.
One should only invest some of the reserve money they've managed to allocate from their paycheck at work or from earnings at freelance.

Balancing is needed, I myself prioritize the basic needs of the family first, especially for those who are already married and have many family members, this is definitely no. Well, I think investment is important as another option as additional income, but don't forget to post.

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While some are busy investing on physical asset some are getting busy with the runnings after their own stomach, we must know that the stomach will never be satisfied irrespective of what we offer it or have been offering it over time, but when we invest, it gives us right and access to have what to eat in the future but the stomach investment sterve us in the future, it's now our choice to choose which best fit for us to invest on.

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June 24, 2023, 06:44:08 AM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment,

Many people valued food more than what is giving them money to provide the food because they understand that the food they eat that is what they will go with if they live this Earth and this is the number reason they are been drawn backward in life, we must learn how to value what gives us money to provide our needs before everything other things.

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June 24, 2023, 07:44:10 AM
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While some are busy investing on physical asset some are getting busy with the runnings after their own stomach, we must know that the stomach will never be satisfied irrespective of what we offer it or have been offering it over time, but when we invest, it gives us right and access to have what to eat in the future but the stomach investment sterve us in the future, it's now our choice to choose which best fit for us to invest on.
And actually it also depends on the situation and condition of the person. If someone is having financial difficulties and even has difficulty buying food, the main priority is of course food. But if someone is in a condition that is financially secure enough where he can eat enough and has enough income to meet all basic needs. then someone is indeed advised to be able to save and invest for the future. because we must have hope and better financial conditions in the future. and we have to start planning and start investing from now on.

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June 24, 2023, 12:37:11 PM
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Make hungry kill me??

It's one who have feed himself that will spare out money for investment, are you advising I should stop thinking about how to feed myself and my household and use the little that I can gather to invest.
Investment is good but we shouldn't think less of our stomach, health is life, heath is wealth. We should think about our health first before talking about investment
That's the fact because some of us have families to support, how can we invest the little money we have while going without food? Food is very important to us; otherwise, how would we have the energy to work harder to earn more money? It can't be possible we will be weak; what if, as he said, we invest the money and never sell a cent from it? Even if we do decide to sell it, what if it's not the correct moment of the market and we are in loose, that's not even a good concept; we should look for food first before investing the little amount we are earning.

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June 24, 2023, 08:02:48 PM
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And actually it also depends on the situation and condition of the person. If someone is having financial difficulties and even has difficulty buying food, the main priority is of course food. But if someone is in a condition that is financially secure enough where he can eat enough and has enough income to meet all basic needs. then someone is indeed advised to be able to save and invest for the future. because we must have hope and better financial conditions in the future. and we have to start planning and start investing from now on.
You are right, if someone is still having difficulty financially then they will not think about saving or investing. What they will think about is being able to eat every day, which is more important because it will sustain their life, but for those of us who have been said to have sufficient income and finances stable enough, you need to think about the future by investing in several fields while there is still money, so take advantage of that opportunity, don't ever waste it on things that are not important because one day it will be a regret when you are old you can't produce anymore.

For me investment is important, while we still easy to have a steady income every month, plan to invest as early as possible, it doesn't take much, even setting aside 10-15 percent of your salary is good enough, especially in Bitcoin, of course there is a large potential for multiples.

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June 24, 2023, 08:19:02 PM
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And actually it also depends on the situation and condition of the person. If someone is having financial difficulties and even has difficulty buying food, the main priority is of course food. But if someone is in a condition that is financially secure enough where he can eat enough and has enough income to meet all basic needs. then someone is indeed advised to be able to save and invest for the future. because we must have hope and better financial conditions in the future. and we have to start planning and start investing from now on.
You are right, if someone is still having difficulty financially then they will not think about saving or investing. What they will think about is being able to eat every day, which is more important because it will sustain their life, but for those of us who have been said to have sufficient income and finances stable enough, you need to think about the future by investing in several fields while there is still money, so take advantage of that opportunity, don't ever waste it on things that are not important because one day it will be a regret when you are old you can't produce anymore.

For me investment is important, while we still easy to have a steady income every month, plan to invest as early as possible, it doesn't take much, even setting aside 10-15 percent of your salary is good enough, especially in Bitcoin, of course there is a large potential for multiples.
Investing and saving don't have to be in large amounts at once. Well we can set aside from every income we get every month. 10-20% or whatever that is as long as it's pretty cool money. then it could be a pretty good investment for our future. I personally prefer to make two types of investments namely Physical investments and Digital Investments. and for Digital investment of course in Bitcoin is the most suitable thing and what I also choose at this time.

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June 24, 2023, 08:49:43 PM
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Both are necessary in our life. People will face problems in life, that's just how life works. Every investment carry risks. none of them are 100% guaranteed to give you profits. You should never expect that from any investment. I do agree that keeping money as it is will only decrease it's amount and value overtime! But if you loose all of it in search for where to invest, at the end of the day, you won't have anything on the table to feed you. There's a saying, " You can not think straight with an empty stomach". Keep what you need to live your daily life. After that, invest with what you can save up, or what is available. It should not interrupt your daily life flow or your living.

You are suggesting about investing in crypto. Every investment has its own risks which I have said earlier. But remember, cryptocurrency investment carries much more risks than other investments. All the seniors here will suggest you to invest what you can afford to lose. Also never invest all of your assets in one go. If you think from that point of view, it's not a bad thing to look for what to eat! People needs to survive and not all of our life and situations are the same. So if one can live their life on something that they are doin, then it's a good thing. Maybe they can make a comeback later on . Who knows.. So let them be. Failure is the piller of success.
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June 24, 2023, 09:00:05 PM
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People are sure about the return from an investment. However we were able to experience massive losses on some occasions which were completely unexpected. So, investment too kind of gamble. You'll invest today with the expectation to eat tomorrow, but you won't get the food. In such situation what can be done. For two days you weren't able to feed yourself, the next day your mind won't function perfectly to analyse the market. So, the importance of food is high than an investment.

If you really understand the principles of investing, this is very different from gambling. Because you have a plan for investment, you should really understand the concept of investment. As well as the basis for the future prospects of the project to be invested, what are the opportunities and most importantly the worst risks (losses) that can occur.

Therefore we need to do investment baskets with the method "Don't put all your eggs in one basket, which means never invest with all the capital you have in one place or just one company. Why? Because if the investment fails, then all the capital you have will also disappear".

Thus at least the risk of loss that occurs from several projects that you invest can still be covered by other projects.
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What do you think.
That's not really a choice. If you don't have money to both investing and food, you shouldn't be investing anything. But to figure out how to eat healthy and cheap, and where to get money from, because at that stage money isn't coming from investing. And you should only invest something you can lose.

If you are in a situation where you choose eating cheaper so that you can still invest, that's a choice. Even then don't compromise by eating unhealthy. Eating well keeps your brain and body in such health that you are able to work more efficiently. Also you will save money when you don't get sick so easily as you would if you ate unhealthy.

It's about priorities. And health should be your priority nr 1.

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June 24, 2023, 09:20:49 PM
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And actually it also depends on the situation and condition of the person. If someone is having financial difficulties and even has difficulty buying food, the main priority is of course food. But if someone is in a condition that is financially secure enough where he can eat enough and has enough income to meet all basic needs. then someone is indeed advised to be able to save and invest for the future. because we must have hope and better financial conditions in the future. and we have to start planning and start investing from now on.
You are right, if someone is still having difficulty financially then they will not think about saving or investing. What they will think about is being able to eat every day, which is more important because it will sustain their life, but for those of us who have been said to have sufficient income and finances stable enough, you need to think about the future by investing in several fields while there is still money, so take advantage of that opportunity, don't ever waste it on things that are not important because one day it will be a regret when you are old you can't produce anymore.

For me investment is important, while we still easy to have a steady income every month, plan to invest as early as possible, it doesn't take much, even setting aside 10-15 percent of your salary is good enough, especially in Bitcoin, of course there is a large potential for multiples.
Investing and saving don't have to be in large amounts at once. Well we can set aside from every income we get every month. 10-20% or whatever that is as long as it's pretty cool money. then it could be a pretty good investment for our future. I personally prefer to make two types of investments namely Physical investments and Digital Investments. and for Digital investment of course in Bitcoin is the most suitable thing and what I also choose at this time.
Proper fund management and good decision making would be the key because not all would really be having the chance on earning decent or big for them to have bigger allocation on which corner if they would be having the plans on investing or using it on business or some sort. This is why some people do miss out lots of opportunities because they cant really be able to do it literally due to lack of funds and its just a normal approach that people would really be giving priority on living than on minding any other else.

Investing does really give out that kind of opportunity for us to earn more and would be able to add up finances on which it would really be helpful or something that could put us up on a situation
on which we arent really that minding much on what we should spend. We are all thriving on reaching out on a status on which we would really be financially free. There might be some sacrifices but it is really
just that normal because its never been that easy on making yourself to be able to progress on a short time. It would be taking lots of time and effort and a little bit mix of luck when it comes to this.

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June 24, 2023, 10:37:49 PM
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I'll like to ask you op, if you a given food knowing you are going to die the next minute and you are given money to invest in something that will yield profit in next 3 hours, which will you choose, to eat food to survive or invest and die without enjoying what you invested. How does it sound to you, awkward right? Now, some people cannot survive hunger to the point of selling BTC at lost for them to eat while some can withstand the hunger urge to benefit from their investment, it's all the category you fall in.

The most important thing here is for an investor to know exactly their own category so they wouldn't waste much waiting for crypto to rise, and most importantly, crypto is not for everyone, that's why some people creates problems if they invested through someone, I'm one the example of this scenario, I couldn't rest because someone invested through me and it's going to two years now and not profit yet, he kept on complaining to me that he used his last funds for the investment that he wants to eat out of the money. What do I mean, some can't stand while they are in losses. So it's best you know your own category.

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June 24, 2023, 11:56:24 PM
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And actually it also depends on the situation and condition of the person. If someone is having financial difficulties and even has difficulty buying food, the main priority is of course food. But if someone is in a condition that is financially secure enough where he can eat enough and has enough income to meet all basic needs. then someone is indeed advised to be able to save and invest for the future. because we must have hope and better financial conditions in the future. and we have to start planning and start investing from now on.
You are right, if someone is still having difficulty financially then they will not think about saving or investing. What they will think about is being able to eat every day, which is more important because it will sustain their life, but for those of us who have been said to have sufficient income and finances stable enough, you need to think about the future by investing in several fields while there is still money, so take advantage of that opportunity, don't ever waste it on things that are not important because one day it will be a regret when you are old you can't produce anymore.

For me investment is important, while we still easy to have a steady income every month, plan to invest as early as possible, it doesn't take much, even setting aside 10-15 percent of your salary is good enough, especially in Bitcoin, of course there is a large potential for multiples.
Investing and saving don't have to be in large amounts at once. Well we can set aside from every income we get every month. 10-20% or whatever that is as long as it's pretty cool money. then it could be a pretty good investment for our future. I personally prefer to make two types of investments namely Physical investments and Digital Investments. and for Digital investment of course in Bitcoin is the most suitable thing and what I also choose at this time.
Proper fund management and good decision making would be the key because not all would really be having the chance on earning decent or big for them to have bigger allocation on which corner if they would be having the plans on investing or using it on business or some sort. This is why some people do miss out lots of opportunities because they cant really be able to do it literally due to lack of funds and its just a normal approach that people would really be giving priority on living than on minding any other else.

Investing does really give out that kind of opportunity for us to earn more and would be able to add up finances on which it would really be helpful or something that could put us up on a situation
on which we arent really that minding much on what we should spend. We are all thriving on reaching out on a status on which we would really be financially free. There might be some sacrifices but it is really
just that normal because its never been that easy on making yourself to be able to progress on a short time. It would be taking lots of time and effort and a little bit mix of luck when it comes to this.
Fund management (financial management) is indeed the basic thing that is needed for someone if they want to have a better standard of living or have an increase in their finances. And to take advantage of financial management, of course there must be funds that we manage. incoming and outgoing flows must always be there then financial management can be carried out. So the main focus is to get income and then allocate it as well and as effectively as possible. And investing is not easy. but it does require patience and thoroughness in running it. And if we succeed, financial freedom will be in our hands. but the most important thing is to make our financial stable first. at least all our basic needs can be met.

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And actually it also depends on the situation and condition of the person. If someone is having financial difficulties and even has difficulty buying food, the main priority is of course food. But if someone is in a condition that is financially secure enough where he can eat enough and has enough income to meet all basic needs. then someone is indeed advised to be able to save and invest for the future. because we must have hope and better financial conditions in the future. and we have to start planning and start investing from now on.
You are right, if someone is still having difficulty financially then they will not think about saving or investing. What they will think about is being able to eat every day, which is more important because it will sustain their life, but for those of us who have been said to have sufficient income and finances stable enough, you need to think about the future by investing in several fields while there is still money, so take advantage of that opportunity, don't ever waste it on things that are not important because one day it will be a regret when you are old you can't produce anymore.

For me investment is important, while we still easy to have a steady income every month, plan to invest as early as possible, it doesn't take much, even setting aside 10-15 percent of your salary is good enough, especially in Bitcoin, of course there is a large potential for multiples.
Investing and saving don't have to be in large amounts at once. Well we can set aside from every income we get every month. 10-20% or whatever that is as long as it's pretty cool money. then it could be a pretty good investment for our future. I personally prefer to make two types of investments namely Physical investments and Digital Investments. and for Digital investment of course in Bitcoin is the most suitable thing and what I also choose at this time.

But again lucky on you that you have extra money to save and invest to if we follow the 10% on saving money from the salary is for sure we wont buy all our necessities as our salary is low. Though it doesn't mean that we save big, we can save what we can, but again, it takes time. But again, this is better than not saving, as in the future, if you see that it is best to invest this, then you now have money to put on it.
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June 25, 2023, 05:37:41 AM
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Fund management (financial management) is indeed the basic thing that is needed for someone if they want to have a better standard of living or have an increase in their finances. And to take advantage of financial management, of course there must be funds that we manage. incoming and outgoing flows must always be there then financial management can be carried out.
If you can't manage your money well, no amount of income will change your standard of living for the better, especially if you don't have a stable income from daily expenses. Managed funds certainly have prospects where we must be able to generate a much more stable level of income and if the money is not placed in a more productive place it is feared that it will not be optimal.

So the main focus is to get income and then allocate it as well and as effectively as possible. And investing is not easy. but it does require patience and thoroughness in running it. And if we succeed, financial freedom will be in our hands. but the most important thing is to make our financial stable first. at least all our basic needs can be met.
The focus is on the stage of increasing income, but it takes careful planning to achieve that and if done correctly, I'm sure it will be more effective. If your financial ability is unstable between expenses and income, it is difficult to maximize investment and you are right, you should make your finances more stable first and then try investing.

Because when we have achieved financial stability and daily expenses have been met, investing will be much easier to do. The issue of investment must also be seen to what extent people's ability to meet the needs of everyday life and it is impossible for them to invest if these needs are not properly met.

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No need to think about it far.
Investment is not a basic need for the lower class economic people. Investment is a routine for the middle and upper class economies besides having forward thinking.
The concept of investment for people with a lower class economy is simply saving when there is left over after their basic needs are met.

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Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
Is it good? Depending on economic conditions and level of intelligence.
How can people with erratic income to invest.
There is a sentence that I often hear "logic will not work if there are no logistics".

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Many people think that when they have income and money they will continue to try to spend it for pleasure, they don't think about investments that can be a helper when bad things happen, and we have to be able to control all expenses and of course have to invest even with a small amount.
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So the main focus is to get income and then allocate it as well and as effectively as possible. And investing is not easy. but it does require patience and thoroughness in running it. And if we succeed, financial freedom will be in our hands. but the most important thing is to make our financial stable first. at least all our basic needs can be met.
The focus is on the stage of increasing income, but it takes careful planning to achieve that and if done correctly, I'm sure it will be more effective. If your financial ability is unstable between expenses and income, it is difficult to maximize investment and you are right, you should make your finances more stable first and then try investing.

Because when we have achieved financial stability and daily expenses have been met, investing will be much easier to do. The issue of investment must also be seen to what extent people's ability to meet the needs of everyday life and it is impossible for them to invest if these needs are not properly met.
Correct. And actually if someone is still unable to meet the basic needs of himself and his family then of course that person will not think about investing or anything like that. Because people who are in difficult financial circumstances will be very reasonable to prioritize food and other basic needs.

Breaking away from financial difficulties is always the most difficult challenge for everyone. Especially for someone who has only a little expertise and also a little insight. The person may have to work harder and rest less in order to make more money.

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June 25, 2023, 12:12:58 PM
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Many people think that when they have income and money they will continue to try to spend it for pleasure, they don't think about investments that can be a helper when bad things happen, and we have to be able to control all expenses and of course have to invest even with a small amount.
Saving through investments? That's actually pretty cool. You get to witness your assets grow while keeping your hands off the money you've stashed away. It seems like the government is currently showing support to the public, allowing them to invest in stocks with a minimal amount. Opting for low-risk stocks is a smarter choice than solely holding onto FIAT, which is susceptible to inflation.

However, do bear in mind that when you save through stocks, you cannot instantly withdraw your money. Let's say you need funds for a medical emergency during a holiday, but it turns out that the stockbroker is also on holiday on the same day. So, don't blame the broker if you encounter difficulties in quickly accessing your funds.
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So the main focus is to get income and then allocate it as well and as effectively as possible. And investing is not easy. but it does require patience and thoroughness in running it. And if we succeed, financial freedom will be in our hands. but the most important thing is to make our financial stable first. at least all our basic needs can be met.
The focus is on the stage of increasing income, but it takes careful planning to achieve that and if done correctly, I'm sure it will be more effective. If your financial ability is unstable between expenses and income, it is difficult to maximize investment and you are right, you should make your finances more stable first and then try investing.

Because when we have achieved financial stability and daily expenses have been met, investing will be much easier to do. The issue of investment must also be seen to what extent people's ability to meet the needs of everyday life and it is impossible for them to invest if these needs are not properly met.
Correct. And actually if someone is still unable to meet the basic needs of himself and his family then of course that person will not think about investing or anything like that. Because people who are in difficult financial circumstances will be very reasonable to prioritize food and other basic needs.

Breaking away from financial difficulties is always the most difficult challenge for everyone. Especially for someone who has only a little expertise and also a little insight. The person may have to work harder and rest less in order to make more money.

For most people, the fundamentals are the same in all investments. This foundation is to invest in what is left after meeting your daily needs and those of your family. It would be a big mistake if a person does not meet their needs and only invests. The market can sometimes put people in a difficult situation. To cope with such situations, you need to have a regular income. It is also difficult for people without a permanent income to invest. I'm not saying they can't invest, don't get me wrong, I'm saying it's hard for them to invest.

Everyone's priorities are different. Others live in bad conditions for a while and only spare money for investment and think that these bad days will end like this. I am against this idea because investing always involves risk. It will be a waste of time when the expected return is not achieved.

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June 25, 2023, 05:36:12 PM
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Many people think that when they have income and money they will continue to try to spend it for pleasure, they don't think about investments that can be a helper when bad things happen, and we have to be able to control all expenses and of course have to invest even with a small amount.

It means that such type of people just focus on present but don't think about future. Sometimes different thoughts about future makes a person sick and I saw lots of people who just focus on present and they eat well, dress well as well as their lives are prosperous while those people who think about future but destroy their present always lives unhealthy lives, neither they dress well nor they eat well because they are always in efforts of saving money.

I don't think that investment is not a good idea but we can also not leave our present for future because we don't know that will we be alive in future or not? As life is unpredictable so I think that focus should be more on present rather than future.

Saving is important but save some money but investment of overall amount is not a good idea which should be avoided.









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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

"What to eat" is an odd way to describe it, it's more about people being overly consumerist. In fact eating healthily and keeping a proper lifestyle is super important in utilizing your brain power for maximum returns. Eating sensibly and even treating yourself occasionally to nice culinary experiences is part of a decent lifestyle, you shouldn't be concerned about spending every penny on investments. However you do have a good message, which is that far too many people follow fads and overspend their hard earned money on what is often throwaway junk. People should think more about where they use their money, but you are unlikely to change the behavior of this crowd.

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June 25, 2023, 08:39:07 PM
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Correct. And actually if someone is still unable to meet the basic needs of himself and his family then of course that person will not think about investing or anything like that. Because people who are in difficult financial circumstances will be very reasonable to prioritize food and other basic needs.

Breaking away from financial difficulties is always the most difficult challenge for everyone. Especially for someone who has only a little expertise and also a little insight. The person may have to work harder and rest less in order to make more money.

For most people, the fundamentals are the same in all investments. This foundation is to invest in what is left after meeting your daily needs and those of your family. It would be a big mistake if a person does not meet their needs and only invests. The market can sometimes put people in a difficult situation. To cope with such situations, you need to have a regular income. It is also difficult for people without a permanent income to invest. I'm not saying they can't invest, don't get me wrong, I'm saying it's hard for them to invest.

Everyone's priorities are different. Others live in bad conditions for a while and only spare money for investment and think that these bad days will end like this. I am against this idea because investing always involves risk. It will be a waste of time when the expected return is not achieved.
That is why investment will only be more effective when it is done when our economic conditions are completely stable. because if we force ourselves to invest even though our economic situation is not completely stable. then it is possible that our investment will eventually be used or withdrawn to meet unfulfilled needs. Because investments must use really cold money that we won't use or won't need for quite a long time. This is where it is important to first build financial stability in our lives. having a steady income plus a side income is what i do. Fixed income to meet all the necessities of life. and side income to save and invest. Everything becomes noticeably better. But then again, everyone's situation is different. Sometimes the main income may not even be enough to meet basic needs. then it will be enough when added to the side income. stuff like that also happens quite a lot. moreover, the current value of fiat seems to have fallen due to soaring prices of basic necessities (inflation).

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Investment is not a basic need for the lower class economic people. Investment is a routine for the middle and upper class economies besides having forward thinking.
The concept of investment for people with a lower class economy is simply saving when there is left over after their basic needs are met.


Although most of those low-class people still tend to meet up or level up more quickly than some so-called middle-class people, The reason is that some middle-class people don't even think of investing; they feel they have a sustainable income, so they may not bother to increase their financial worth. But some of this low class will still strive (because they are not satisfied with the stage they are), so they will have to save up the little they have earned and still invest it in something that will earn a small profit for them even if it's not Bitcoin. There is this saying that "if you can't save when you are earning a small amount, there is likely a possibility that you won't save even if you are earning a huge amount." Saving is a habit that most people don't have, and when you can't save, what will you invest? There is no one who can't invest; it's just to develop the habit of saving and investing.


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Investing and meeting basic needs like food are both important aspects of financial planning. While investing can help you build wealth over time, it's also important to prioritize your basic needs. If you're struggling to meet your basic needs, such as food, shelter and healthcare, it may be wise to focus on those first before investing. However, if you have the means to invest, it can be a smart way to grow your wealth and secure your financial future. When deciding whether to invest or focus on meeting your basic needs, it's important to consider your personal circumstances and goals. If you have a stable income and are able to cover up your basic expenses, investing can help you build wealth over time and achieve long term financial goals. If you're struggling to meet your basic needs, it may be more important to focus on meeting your basic needs first. In this case, you may want to consider seeking out resources such as food banks or government assistance programs to help you survive.

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June 26, 2023, 04:58:14 AM
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Many people think that when they have income and money they will continue to try to spend it for pleasure, they don't think about investments that can be a helper when bad things happen, and we have to be able to control all expenses and of course have to invest even with a small amount.
If we just follow lust then it will never end so it is necessary to create awareness for ourselves,
limit spending on important things and we also need to invest our money for the future,
who clearly manages it all is so important and needs to be done.

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June 26, 2023, 05:52:06 AM
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People who decide to sell accounts have very little patience, I would say. Because of how much money will come from selling an account and how long can he last with that amount of money. If it was the case that by selling his accounts he would be able to live with that money for the rest of his life then selling the account was the right decision but now if he sells the account he will find that the money is gone within 15 days or a month then how will he continue then up to him. There will be nothing to sell. Those who make such plans should think twice. But if the account can be given time and the account can be taken to a good state without selling the account, then the account will stand by you in difficult times.  

Investment is like planting a tree like if we plant a delicious fruit tree but we will not get that delicious fruit immediately we have to wait for that delicious fruit. Same is the case with investments. As soon as we invest we will not profit we have to wait. And if we can wait, the fruit of our waiting will be sweet.
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June 26, 2023, 09:36:49 AM
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Investment is not a basic need for the lower class economic people. Investment is a routine for the middle and upper class economies besides having forward thinking.
The concept of investment for people with a lower class economy is simply saving when there is left over after their basic needs are met.
Although most of those low-class people still tend to meet up or level up more quickly than some so-called middle-class people, The reason is that some middle-class people don't even think of investing; they feel they have a sustainable income, so they may not bother to increase their financial worth. But some of this low class will still strive (because they are not satisfied with the stage they are), so they will have to save up the little they have earned and still invest it in something that will earn a small profit for them even if it's not Bitcoin. There is this saying that "if you can't save when you are earning a small amount, there is likely a possibility that you won't save even if you are earning a huge amount." Saving is a habit that most people don't have, and when you can't save, what will you invest? There is no one who can't invest; it's just to develop the habit of saving and investing.
It belongs to the category of people who are lazy in using the greatest asset they have, namely the mind to think.
You are not wrong. I agree that people with a lower class economy can easily level up as long as they have a strong desire to progress by trying and working hard to make their wishes come true. Of the many tips for success, we often find true stories that lower-class economic people turn into people with upper-class (wealthy) economies.

Diligence is the mother of good luck. Save the base rich. The classic adage of my environment.

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June 26, 2023, 10:00:41 AM
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Many people think that when they have income and money they will continue to try to spend it for pleasure, they don't think about investments that can be a helper when bad things happen, and we have to be able to control all expenses and of course have to invest even with a small amount.
If we just follow lust then it will never end so it is necessary to create awareness for ourselves,
limit spending on important things and we also need to invest our money for the future,
who clearly manages it all is so important and needs to be done.

It is the same with if your salary increases, your spending also increases. That is why it is better to have self-control, as we always have in mind that because we do have that money, we need to relax and buy those things, and we don't think about the future. That is really the opportunity to invest, as we do have spare money on it, so we need to make use of it. But it doesn't mean that we refrain from doing it, but we should prioritize investment over that unwanted stuff.
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Many people think that when they have income and money they will continue to try to spend it for pleasure, they don't think about investments that can be a helper when bad things happen, and we have to be able to control all expenses and of course have to invest even with a small amount.
Everyone basically has a mind to think about investing in their life when they have money. It's just that some people just forget to think about it for themselves so they look happier and more diligent in spending money than leaving some for investment. I also don't know how some people think about this kind of thing, because there are also those who are lazy to invest so they don't do it when they have money. But they always feel regret when they don't invest when the money runs out.

If we just follow lust then it will never end so it is necessary to create awareness for ourselves,
limit spending on important things and we also need to invest our money for the future,
who clearly manages it all is so important and needs to be done.
Some people may just not be smart in managing spending money and controlling their passions so that they will never feel enough with the money they have. And they will also always be more easily influenced by the environment around them for things that are less important and not good for them, so they usually don't hold on to a lot of money for too long because they really don't have a way to manage their finances in life.

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June 26, 2023, 11:38:09 AM
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Many people think that when they have income and money they will continue to try to spend it for pleasure, they don't think about investments that can be a helper when bad things happen, and we have to be able to control all expenses and of course have to invest even with a small amount.
If we just follow lust then it will never end so it is necessary to create awareness for ourselves,
limit spending on important things and we also need to invest our money for the future,
who clearly manages it all is so important and needs to be done.

It is the same with if your salary increases, your spending also increases. That is why it is better to have self-control, as we always have in mind that because we do have that money, we need to relax and buy those things, and we don't think about the future. That is really the opportunity to invest, as we do have spare money on it, so we need to make use of it. But it doesn't mean that we refrain from doing it, but we should prioritize investment over that unwanted stuff.

People could do things they like with their money it's up to them since we all have different lifestyle. But you can do 50/50 with your spare money so you could enjoy while having a secure financial in the future. 50% for the things you would like to buy and another 50% for the investment, if you used to this kind of lifestyle maybe you wouldn't notice you already have investment that could save you. If you're consistent enough you could change it to 30/70 something like that which gives you a lot of advantage in the future. Still note that the money you would put at investment still involves a risk. Which could become a win - win situation since you can gather experience from it.

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June 26, 2023, 04:03:32 PM
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Correct. And actually if someone is still unable to meet the basic needs of himself and his family then of course that person will not think about investing or anything like that. Because people who are in difficult financial circumstances will be very reasonable to prioritize food and other basic needs.

Breaking away from financial difficulties is always the most difficult challenge for everyone. Especially for someone who has only a little expertise and also a little insight. The person may have to work harder and rest less in order to make more money.
The criteria for people who are able to be involved in investing consistently must have stable income to meet their daily needs. Investment is indeed considered very important to improve your financial level for the better, but meeting the necessities of life is far more important than forcing investment, because people who are in a condition of financial difficulties, of course they will find it difficult to invest.

Getting out of the poverty line is always a difficult challenge, moreover they do not have skills in self-development. The economic conditions that we are currently facing also make it difficult for most people to get decent jobs, so that without work people will not be able to make their lives more stable.

Everyone's priorities are different. Others live in bad conditions for a while and only spare money for investment and think that these bad days will end like this. I am against this idea because investing always involves risk. It will be a waste of time when the expected return is not achieved.
Without a stable income that is supported by steady work, I think everyone will find it difficult to invest. Setting aside money depending on how much they can afford and when settling on a slightly more frugal lifestyle can help, although by no means make things any easier. In investing there is always a risk and it needs to be assessed whether the ability to meet daily needs can offset it because if not then the investment should not be forced.

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June 26, 2023, 05:34:01 PM
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Many people think that when they have income and money they will continue to try to spend it for pleasure, they don't think about investments that can be a helper when bad things happen, and we have to be able to control all expenses and of course have to invest even with a small amount.
If we just follow lust then it will never end so it is necessary to create awareness for ourselves,
limit spending on important things and we also need to invest our money for the future,
who clearly manages it all is so important and needs to be done.

Other than that, we should not forget that the job we have right now is only temporary and it will not produce the money we need until the day we die. Having a primary source of income is already a tool to create and make another source of income but not everyone have the right mindset to do it because they are just too blind with the worldly things and so busy in keeping up with the trends which create holes in their pockets and hence the need of money again.

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June 26, 2023, 07:19:32 PM
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that's easy to say when u r well fed.
People must have things to eat to survive before they can do other things including investment.
Yep and yep.

I've seen a few threads around here dealing with food, and I don't think OP is seeing things from a lot of people's perspective--especially when inflation is so high that every time I go food shopping, prices have increased.  Maybe just a little each time, but the overall effect since the beginning of the COVID epidemic is very noticeable. 

Besides, if you can save money by decreasing the amount you spend on food and other necessities, the more you'll have to invest.  Makes sense, right?  So I'm all for the threads in Economics and elsewhere dealing with penny-pinching topics.  Not everyone here is rich, you know.

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June 26, 2023, 10:14:40 PM
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Focusing on investment is good than focusing on eating. I understood this from the personal expenses met by my mother and how she saves money. It looks small, but it helps and even helped when I don't have money I borrow from mother.

She grows lots of plants and vegetables around the house and meets the daily food needs. With the rest available she sell it to the nearby people and gets little money. This she use on other groceries required. Being on the rural region this can be followed easily. Sometimes she manages with the food that is left unused the previous day with some sort of modification. Some might term it unhealthy, but she does it in a healthy and tasty manner.

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June 26, 2023, 10:23:26 PM
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that's easy to say when u r well fed.
People must have things to eat to survive before they can do other things including investment.
Yep and yep.

I've seen a few threads around here dealing with food, and I don't think OP is seeing things from a lot of people's perspective--especially when inflation is so high that every time I go food shopping, prices have increased.  Maybe just a little each time, but the overall effect since the beginning of the COVID epidemic is very noticeable. 

Besides, if you can save money by decreasing the amount you spend on food and other necessities, the more you'll have to invest.  Makes sense, right?  So I'm all for the threads in Economics and elsewhere dealing with penny-pinching topics.  Not everyone here is rich, you know.
Yeah thats life and its not surprising that there are some who are really that good on making some advices but doesnt really know on what are the real situations on which most people been facing specially to those

who are just earning the average or something which is really just that right on their daily food or supply for them to survive on that day, which means that there are no other priorities which is more important than this. This is why those people would really be missing out lots of opportunities on which they could possibly make because of such condition. This is why we cant really or we dont have the right to blame or tell someone on what they should gonna do because they've been just doing or prioritizing things which is something that would really be connecting out with their daily survival.

This is why just let them be on what are the things that they would gonna tend to do because we are really just normally be trying out to survive and doing our very best on whats good for us.

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June 26, 2023, 10:44:52 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
you can not invest on an empty stomach, it takes only a physically and mentally stabled person to even as much as think towards the line of  investment.

I think you should rather suggest that while eating, one should also consider investing.

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June 27, 2023, 02:10:23 AM
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It is the same with if your salary increases, your spending also increases. That is why it is better to have self-control, as we always have in mind that because we do have that money, we need to relax and buy those things, and we don't think about the future. That is really the opportunity to invest, as we do have spare money on it, so we need to make use of it. But it doesn't mean that we refrain from doing it, but we should prioritize investment over that unwanted stuff.

Food is a need and not a want, things we should overlook are our wants and not our need. Our needs are necessary for survival, what's the benefits of you making all the money and enjoy them because you developed an illness out of lack of food or proper balance diets. I had a friend in school that because he was always saving for investment only eat junk food filled with sugar. He developed diabetes and has been battling it since.

He has money but can't enjoy it, always visiting one hospital after another due to his diabetes illness and other illness that comes from him having diabetes. As we save for investment, we shouldn't neglect our health as health is very important, we should learn to balance everything.

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June 27, 2023, 09:01:44 AM
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It is the same with if your salary increases, your spending also increases. That is why it is better to have self-control, as we always have in mind that because we do have that money, we need to relax and buy those things, and we don't think about the future. That is really the opportunity to invest, as we do have spare money on it, so we need to make use of it. But it doesn't mean that we refrain from doing it, but we should prioritize investment over that unwanted stuff.

Food is a need and not a want, things we should overlook are our wants and not our need. Our needs are necessary for survival, what's the benefits of you making all the money and enjoy them because you developed an illness out of lack of food or proper balance diets. I had a friend in school that because he was always saving for investment only eat junk food filled with sugar. He developed diabetes and has been battling it since.

He has money but can't enjoy it, always visiting one hospital after another due to his diabetes illness and other illness that comes from him having diabetes. As we save for investment, we shouldn't neglect our health as health is very important, we should learn to balance everything.
That's true, we must first meet our needs in life for survival, not only food but also clothing and so on.
After that, we can fulfill our desires if we have more money.
Regarding people who hold themselves too much, I think the lack of knowledge causes greater losses when experiencing health problems.
It's all about mindset, I don't agree that we look too much to fulfill desires or to invest, in fact, whatever we do is to meet high standards of needs so that it will make it easier for us to be able to look for more so that we can achieve what we want.
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June 27, 2023, 01:00:29 PM
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And actually it also depends on the situation and condition of the person. If someone is having financial difficulties and even has difficulty buying food, the main priority is of course food. But if someone is in a condition that is financially secure enough where he can eat enough and has enough income to meet all basic needs. then someone is indeed advised to be able to save and invest for the future. because we must have hope and better financial conditions in the future. and we have to start planning and start investing from now on.
You are right, if someone is still having difficulty financially then they will not think about saving or investing. What they will think about is being able to eat every day, which is more important because it will sustain their life, but for those of us who have been said to have sufficient income and finances stable enough, you need to think about the future by investing in several fields while there is still money, so take advantage of that opportunity, don't ever waste it on things that are not important because one day it will be a regret when you are old you can't produce anymore.

For me investment is important, while we still easy to have a steady income every month, plan to invest as early as possible, it doesn't take much, even setting aside 10-15 percent of your salary is good enough, especially in Bitcoin, of course there is a large potential for multiples.
Investing and saving don't have to be in large amounts at once. Well we can set aside from every income we get every month. 10-20% or whatever that is as long as it's pretty cool money. then it could be a pretty good investment for our future. I personally prefer to make two types of investments namely Physical investments and Digital Investments. and for Digital investment of course in Bitcoin is the most suitable thing and what I also choose at this time.

But again lucky on you that you have extra money to save and invest to if we follow the 10% on saving money from the salary is for sure we wont buy all our necessities as our salary is low. Though it doesn't mean that we save big, we can save what we can, but again, it takes time. But again, this is better than not saving, as in the future, if you see that it is best to invest this, then you now have money to put on it.

Our salaries should never be limiting factors because if we live in that box kept in a corner, we will never be able to learn bigger stuff, never be able to invest somewhere else. For this very reason one should directly evolve themselves with brighter skill sets, have multiple ways of earning sources. Any ITian can easily to moon lightening so that they can literally double their wages. There are relatives who are literally saving everything from the first salary and some portion from the second salaries. I am not sure form what region you guys are but most of the western sides allow this and it's blessing to everyone. If someone is from different field which does not allow such multiple profiles then better look for home based or part time jobs which are doable in the remaining hours. One can seriously manage the life to get more out of it and still maintain good lifestyle.
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June 27, 2023, 02:48:38 PM
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Investing for the future is absolutely not a bad idea but for a person to have some money to invest then he must have had enough to eat already before thinking if investing. The idea of investment can't make sense or ring a wisdom bell in the ears of an hungry man. So firstly, meeting up the immediate needs is what should be important as it's only wuth a full stomach that investment becomes necessary.
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When you talk about investment, no doubt it is a good idea, but food comes first, you have to eat before thinking of investment, how can you even invest when you can't afford to eat, food is very essential to every living organism not particularly the intelligent animals (human beings), Just imagine when a man barely feeds twice a day, he can't even think of investment, his daily prayers will always be limited to having food to eat first before any other thing. Investment will be the last thing in his mind.

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June 27, 2023, 06:19:31 PM
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What do you think.
Nowadays everyone who is related to cryptocurrency is highly motivated to invest. As long as I've known about this Bitcoin and the knowledge I've gained from it, I definitely need to do something for the future. And my attitude has always been to think of something great for the future why investing in Bitcoin is life changing. Of course I will keep some of my money for investment and try to do something good for the future with that money. But first of all it is very important to know about this well before investing, adopt all the strategies and acquire special knowledge about the market. And if the investment is made, it will certainly yield good profits later and there will be no shortage of food in the future. Some amount of money is enough to continue eating and investing is to brighten the future.

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Diligence is the mother of good luck. Save the base rich. The classic adage of my environment.

Yeah, I just know that some people were deligent, and luck found them, and they became rich at that instant, but they were not persistent in doing what they could do deligently; they therefore got too comfortable and stopped pushing, with the thought that they would never fall, but in the process of relenting, they fell out of the race because things were never the same as time went on; the cost of living always kept growing, but the low class who saw the need to keep stepping up always did so, deligently believing that they would reach their dreams, and perhaps if it pay off for them, they would want to sustain it because they don't want to go back to the stage they have managed to leave.

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Feeding is essential and it plays a very vital roles in our lives today we need food to eat to sustain our living otherwise, without food we may fell sick while those money or investment would still be pulled out to take care of our healths.
Before anyone thinks of investment they should also plan a way of life and living in other to have a long time investment strategies, I have witnessed many people who invested, due to some critical issues those investment where pulled off to settle some important bills but that does not mean that such person do not want to invest but it was the only alternatives and remedy to what is at hand currently.
Health comes before investment, anyone who doesn't have a good health condition doesn't go into investment, we are investing for our future use and when the needs arises we don't need to still hold while our lives is in danger.

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Focusing on investment is good than focusing on eating. I understood this from the personal expenses met by my mother and how she saves money. It looks small, but it helps and even helped when I don't have money I borrow from mother.

we all know how important it is to invest but to the extent of starving yourself off proper meals, the only thing I see is that is always good to have some saving no matter how small it, and I think your mom did a good job teaching you how to save, I also remembered when I use to have a piggy bank, once am gifted any cash it was always deposited there. 

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She grows lots of plants and vegetables around the house and meets the daily food needs. With the rest available she sell it to the nearby people and gets little money. This she use on other groceries required. Being on the rural region this can be followed easily. Sometimes she manages with the food that is left unused the previous day with some sort of modification. Some might term it unhealthy, but she does it in a healthy and tasty manner.

Wow, I am amazed and smiled at how vegetables bring money, one of the best investments I noticed is agriculture because people need to eat, there is no way you won't sell when it is agricultural produce, you eat and you can also sell from it, the disadvantage is that it has its own risk and it involves stress. the demand for food is increasing. I prefer rural towns to cities because they provide access to fresh produce, which is beneficial to one's health.

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June 28, 2023, 07:06:58 PM
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Feeding is essential and it plays a very vital roles in our lives today we need food to eat to sustain our living otherwise, without food we may fell sick while those money or investment would still be pulled out to take care of our healths.
Before anyone thinks of investment they should also plan a way of life and living in other to have a long time investment strategies, I have witnessed many people who invested, due to some critical issues those investment where pulled off to settle some important bills but that does not mean that such person do not want to invest but it was the only alternatives and remedy to what is at hand currently.
Health comes before investment, anyone who doesn't have a good health condition doesn't go into investment, we are investing for our future use and when the needs arises we don't need to still hold while our lives is in danger.
Your point about valuing health over wealth rings true. After all, in the absence of health, all riches are hollow - it echoes the ancient wisdom of "Health is wealth". Yet, ponder on this: apt investment methods could potentially enhance health!

Curious, aren't you? A diverse portfolio could support health insurance, frequent medical check-ups, superior nutritional choices, and even mental serenity due to fiscal stability. Thus, astute investment could safeguard not just your tomorrow, but also bolster your health.

However, emergencies might demand dipping into our investments. Prudence lies in having a mixed portfolio and a reserve fund for unexpected events, enabling health and wealth to stride together.

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When you talk about investment, no doubt it is a good idea, but food comes first, you have to eat before thinking of investment, how can you even invest when you can't afford to eat, food is very essential to every living organism not particularly the intelligent animals (human beings), Just imagine when a man barely feeds twice a day, he can't even think of investment, his daily prayers will always be limited to having food to eat first before any other thing. Investment will be the last thing in his mind.
You are right. Of course, when talking about investing, it is a good thing for our finances in the future with the hope that the value will increase and investment can also provide benefits, but it must be done with financial arrangements beforehand. Prioritize what is needed first, especially for staple needs such as food. Because eating is important for our survival, and also maintaining health without eating we also cannot concentrate when investing. So prioritize the important first.

Investment must have financial planning as stated, we must be able to separate daily needs (living) such as food, future needs (saving) for emergency needs which we deliberately reserve if there is a sudden need at any time. If that has been fulfilled then we can invest, because investment certainly has a high risk and we cannot guess like we are used to.

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You are right. Of course, when talking about investing, it is a good thing for our finances in the future with the hope that the value will increase and investment can also provide benefits, but it must be done with financial arrangements beforehand. Prioritize what is needed first, especially for staple needs such as food. Because eating is important for our survival, and also maintaining health without eating we also cannot concentrate when investing. So prioritize the important first.
Prioritizing basic needs in life is something that really should be done because everyone will not be able to do anything when they are still experiencing a shortage of their basic needs. And a good investment is usually an investment in assets that are well known and most liked by everyone so that it will be even better if the investment is made with money or capital that is not used for basic needs. In addition, it will be easier for everyone to invest in the long term when all their life needs have been carefully met.

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Investment must have financial planning as stated, we must be able to separate daily needs (living) such as food, future needs (saving) for emergency needs which we deliberately reserve if there is a sudden need at any time. If that has been fulfilled then we can invest, because investment certainly has a high risk and we cannot guess like we are used to.
Investment is something that is very easy for everyone to understand, although it is not easy enough for everyone to do because every investment must always be related to basic capital that is not used for anything else, including for daily needs. So besides having to understand the risks, everyone also needs to understand about the capital they will use for the investment they want to make in their life.

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June 30, 2023, 07:57:46 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future.
No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
While investing in projects that can provide long term financial security is important, it is also important to consider that not everyone is on same ship in terms of circumstances and opportunities. Individual may be facing critical moments that need immediate financial solutions to meet their basic needs such as putting food on their table, health concerns, etc.
Financial literacy is important, but it is also important to approach this with empathy and understanding as everyone circumstances are different and as such, there are individuals whose basic needs precedes anything else.

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July 01, 2023, 10:47:46 AM
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you can not invest on an empty stomach, it takes only a physically and mentally stabled person to even as much as think towards the line of  investment.

I think you should rather suggest that while eating, one should also consider investing.
Survival instincts, for example eating and drinking, fighting or fleeing when faced with threats such as blows, fires, animal attacks. If this instinct is not fulfilled, someone will die. In fact, this is also an investment. Investment is not always about finances but also about health in the future so you don't get sick easily. Because if you are sick, the expenses will be expensive and the assets you have will be of no use.

The very first thing that must be done is investing for the necessities of life first so that you have a healthy mind, a healthy body so that you make wise decisions in any case, including making decisions when investing in bitcoin.

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Survival instincts, for example eating and drinking, fighting or fleeing when faced with threats such as blows, fires, animal attacks. If this instinct is not fulfilled, someone will die. In fact, this is also an investment. Investment is not always about finances but also about health in the future so you don't get sick easily. Because if you are sick, the expenses will be expensive and the assets you have will be of no use.
If you really think about it, health investment and financial investment are equally important in life. Because health is the main thing that must be in every human body, while financial investment in the form of money is the main thing that must be in life because it can move the wheels of life better. A person will get sick more easily if he is short of money, whereas on the other hand someone will be more likely to be healthy if his finances are always sufficient, although there are also rich people who get sick.

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The very first thing that must be done is investing for the necessities of life first so that you have a healthy mind, a healthy body so that you make wise decisions in any case, including making decisions when investing in bitcoin.
As I said, that health is important for the body so that humans can think clearly and wisely, but this can only be achieved when a person has enough money to make himself healthy so he can continue to think about making money through investment. And that also includes Bitcoin investment if someone is really sure and knows about Bitcoin, so this must be done in a balanced way in life so that both of them can go according to everyone's wishes.

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July 05, 2023, 02:31:53 PM
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that's easy to say when u r well fed.

if i have to choose betwixt investing &/ having a meal right now..

i'd pick to eat as well.. ngl.

it is only after ur daily needs r met that u think of investing..

or saving for the future.
Exactly mate
Most times I see people who get the wrong concept of savings and investment and firstly we need to eat to stay alive to be able to save and invest.
People save some times because of thread and we just save for a future  that isn't guaranteed, anything can happen tomorrow,  we can die, we might be sick or not really healthy to enjoy our savings  and investments and the rest of them. I'm a fan of investment and savings bjt I think having investments  wouldn't be an easy  one for someone whonks struggling  to put  food on his table(living from hand to mouth).
I agree with you that this thread is for those who aren't hungry, I mean really hungry.

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Need to do a thorough survey before you draw conclusions. What percentage of account sales cases occur on the forum, what percentage of accounts are still active and what percentage of accounts are dead (inactive). Accounts can be interpreted as assets, cases of selling assets often occur outside the forum such as selling houses, land and company shares. The majority of asset sales occur due to urgent economic needs due to needing medical expenses or other things.

The rules in the forum are clear.
18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

People have different perceptions of selling their assets, partly because there are no other options to support the economy.

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I understand what you're saying ..........but you also have to be objective in situations like this, i'm not the one to judge those people who have the potential to earn more than they think and still prefer the  easy and sell what  they have managed to earn by for having money in the moment............one would have to be in the situation they are in to know why they act in this way........is it due to immediate necessity? Or maybe they are not so aware of good money management?

Regardless of the case, and answering your question

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........any businessman knows that an investment at the right time brings juicy rewards, it is only having a solid strategy and carrying out a good exhaustive study in which the investment going to be made, otherwise it occurs when the assets well and they are spent immediately instead of looking for how to increase them stagnation would occur where what comes in does not work, falling into constant frustration for the simple fact of not taking risks when the possibilities existed, personally, is better to dare and live a calmer life in the long,  run than spend my days stressed.
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you can not invest on an empty stomach, it takes only a physically and mentally stabled person to even as much as think towards the line of  investment.

I think you should rather suggest that while eating, one should also consider investing.
Survival instincts, for example eating and drinking, fighting or fleeing when faced with threats such as blows, fires, animal attacks. If this instinct is not fulfilled, someone will die. In fact, this is also an investment. Investment is not always about finances but also about health in the future so you don't get sick easily. Because if you are sick, the expenses will be expensive and the assets you have will be of no use.

The very first thing that must be done is investing for the necessities of life first so that you have a healthy mind, a healthy body so that you make wise decisions in any case, including making decisions when investing in bitcoin.
That's obviously the most important thing, why do we basically work for initially? We work to get money so that we can eat and drink and live, you can't work to get wealth when you are hungry, or you can't think of making investments when you know that the money you have is only enough to provide for your family, investments can only be done once all these things are done and you still have got something left, that's when you can think of it.

If you are spending money on things that are not necessary, you are doing the wrong thing for sure, but if you are spending your money on food, shelter, drinks, and all other basic amenities that you and your family needs, you are doing the right thing with the money you have.

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July 05, 2023, 07:50:38 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future.
No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
While investing in projects that can provide long term financial security is important, it is also important to consider that not everyone is on same ship in terms of circumstances and opportunities. Individual may be facing critical moments that need immediate financial solutions to meet their basic needs such as putting food on their table, health concerns, etc.
Financial literacy is important, but it is also important to approach this with empathy and understanding as everyone circumstances are different and as such, there are individuals whose basic needs precedes anything else.
It is a mistake to think that by adopting a policy of austerity in the basics of life, we will be successful investors.  Healthy minds cannot think with an empty stomach. 
I know people who refused to spend money to take care of their health, fearing that their investments would decrease, thus decreasing their returns, and some of them lost their lives in the foolishness of stubbornness.  The most important investment goal is to secure a better tomorrow, and this is when we have secured our present.  This is where the well-known rule comes from ; "Don't invest in what you fear losing."
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July 05, 2023, 11:53:36 PM
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that's easy to say when u r well fed.
People must have things to eat to survive before they can do other things including investment.
Yep and yep.

I've seen a few threads around here dealing with food, and I don't think OP is seeing things from a lot of people's perspective--especially when inflation is so high that every time I go food shopping, prices have increased.  Maybe just a little each time, but the overall effect since the beginning of the COVID epidemic is very noticeable. 

Besides, if you can save money by decreasing the amount you spend on food and other necessities, the more you'll have to invest.  Makes sense, right?  So I'm all for the threads in Economics and elsewhere dealing with penny-pinching topics.  Not everyone here is rich, you know.
It's true that not all forum users here are rich. In fact, I see that maybe more are struggling to improve their standard of living, namely in financial terms. In fact, in one of the threads that I made (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458117.msg62482756#msg62482756), I read some replies that quite touched me, namely that it seems that these users have gone through a lot of difficult lives. and they are trying to get up and some have managed to get up. So actually when it comes to investing, actually not everyone can do it. especially if they are in conditions that require them to continue to spend the money they earn just to buy food.

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July 05, 2023, 11:59:06 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future.
No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
While investing in projects that can provide long term financial security is important, it is also important to consider that not everyone is on same ship in terms of circumstances and opportunities. Individual may be facing critical moments that need immediate financial solutions to meet their basic needs such as putting food on their table, health concerns, etc.
Financial literacy is important, but it is also important to approach this with empathy and understanding as everyone circumstances are different and as such, there are individuals whose basic needs precedes anything else.
It is a mistake to think that by adopting a policy of austerity in the basics of life, we will be successful investors.  Healthy minds cannot think with an empty stomach. 
I know people who refused to spend money to take care of their health, fearing that their investments would decrease, thus decreasing their returns, and some of them lost their lives in the foolishness of stubbornness.  The most important investment goal is to secure a better tomorrow, and this is when we have secured our present.  This is where the well-known rule comes from ; "Don't invest in what you fear losing."
Take the balance approach and you shouldnt really be just focusing solely on one  side because if the time comes that you are putting that much focus into one thing but forgetting the other specially on health?
For sure all of those money or earning that you had made out on extreme effort and  time spend would definitely take a toll into your health which it is something that we should really be looking into and dont make yourself that too confident when it comes to this because if you do then you would just basically not able to cherish out those profits you had made earlier if you are ill or having sickness and those would really be spent out on hospital bills.
This is why you should really be that having that proper thinking on where you should really be focusing but in overall having that balance is always recommended. Dont mind on what others been saying because it would really be just common sense that health is also wealth, its just that right that we should do our best to make our income source even more bigger but with having those sacrifices on extreme extent then it would
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Investment is good but food is more important, health is wealth, health is life, so first take care of yourself, your health before, investment, Investing is a wonderful idea, but you should only do it after you have taken care of your necessities.Food is one of our basic necessities in life so we buy food first before investing, I mean yes investment is good but if you don't eat your gonna get sick and die so
let keep investment aside, first feed our selves before investing, investing in your future is really matter but if you are dead, the dead don't have a future.Don't invest what you can not afford to lose.

I agree with your statement that personal health and well-being is the first step before starting the investment journey. A healthy body and mind will also be healthy. Well, maybe this is useful too, I think. Regardless of the argument you conveyed above, a balanced approach is necessary for us to juxtapose food, health and financial needs simultaneously.

Broadly speaking, investing is a step that contributes more or less to achieving a balance between the two. For investment options/options, the minimum requirements must be in accordance with each person's risk tolerance and financial ability, of course, which in the end can help achieve an optimal balance for the future of our family and children in the future.

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I agree with your statement that personal health and well-being is the first step before starting the investment journey. A healthy body and mind will also be healthy. Well, maybe this is useful too, I think. Regardless of the argument you conveyed above, a balanced approach is necessary for us to juxtapose food, health and financial needs simultaneously.
A healthy mind does exist in a healthy body, which is why overall body health is always needed before doing any work in this world. Investment is part of human work and it is done on the basis of the awareness of each individual so that things such as health, food and finances as a whole have to be considered before doing a job like investing.

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Broadly speaking, investing is a step that contributes more or less to achieving a balance between the two. For investment options/options, the minimum requirements must be in accordance with each person's risk tolerance and financial ability, of course, which in the end can help achieve an optimal balance for the future of our family and children in the future.
It's just an attempt to find income so we can get a balance in life if it can be profitable enough with the investment we make. Because there are also investments that are not profitable even though those who make them hope to benefit, so investment choices should not be arbitrary if the goal is for the long term and balance in our lives.

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July 07, 2023, 07:12:32 PM
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I agree with your statement that personal health and well-being is the first step before starting the investment journey. A healthy body and mind will also be healthy. Well, maybe this is useful too, I think. Regardless of the argument you conveyed above, a balanced approach is necessary for us to juxtapose food, health and financial needs simultaneously.
A healthy mind does exist in a healthy body, which is why overall body health is always needed before doing any work in this world. Investment is part of human work and it is done on the basis of the awareness of each individual so that things such as health, food and finances as a whole have to be considered before doing a job like investing.

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Broadly speaking, investing is a step that contributes more or less to achieving a balance between the two. For investment options/options, the minimum requirements must be in accordance with each person's risk tolerance and financial ability, of course, which in the end can help achieve an optimal balance for the future of our family and children in the future.
It's just an attempt to find income so we can get a balance in life if it can be profitable enough with the investment we make. Because there are also investments that are not profitable even though those who make them hope to benefit, so investment choices should not be arbitrary if the goal is for the long term and balance in our lives.

Not all types of investment are actually profitable or could even assure us that we can get out of poverty through it. We aren't in the position of those who are starving and selling their assets because as humans, our first reaction when we're starving is to look for food and not for investment.
We usually do that to survive. Investment is necessary yet we can still survive without it though it is undeniable that we can have the financial freedom that we want if we have pick the right investment.
We aren't in the shoes of those who are trying to survive but I'm sure that if they're able, they will also focus on investing it's just that we all have different fates.
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July 07, 2023, 07:45:16 PM
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that's easy to say when u r well fed.

if i have to choose betwixt investing &/ having a meal right now..

i'd pick to eat as well.. ngl.

it is only after ur daily needs r met that u think of investing..

or saving for the future.
Exactly mate
Most times I see people who get the wrong concept of savings and investment and firstly we need to eat to stay alive to be able to save and invest.
People save some times because of thread and we just save for a future  that isn't guaranteed, anything can happen tomorrow,  we can die, we might be sick or not really healthy to enjoy our savings  and investments and the rest of them. I'm a fan of investment and savings bjt I think having investments  wouldn't be an easy  one for someone whonks struggling  to put  food on his table(living from hand to mouth).
I agree with you that this thread is for those who aren't hungry, I mean really hungry.
I think the caption that op used is wrong because it is very confusing to me and nit really passing the kind of massage that I expected. We need to invest and not always thinking about food or what to eat to feed our belly.. investment is one of the ways we can become comfortable without depending on others for what to eat or drink. If we have the fund to invest in Bitcoin, it will be better we invest now and watch how the market will play out. Saving is not easy that is why we need to be disciplined for us to make savings so we can use it to invest in any of the  market to earn more money.









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Not all types of investment are actually profitable or could even assure us that we can get out of poverty through it. We aren't in the position of those who are starving and selling their assets because as humans, our first reaction when we're starving is to look for food and not for investment.
We usually do that to survive. Investment is necessary yet we can still survive without it though it is undeniable that we can have the financial freedom that we want if we have pick the right investment.
We aren't in the shoes of those who are trying to survive but I'm sure that if they're able, they will also focus on investing it's just that we all have different fates.
When the situation is urgent, investment needs can be optional because financial management must prioritize main needs compared to any type of investment, if you have an emergency such as hunger, then there is an indication that the allocation of funds for primary needs is critical, so you have to sell investments or divert savings funds for basic funding needs. We can still get investment back if the condition of basic needs is fulfilled even though we have to work hard to return the investment from new job income.

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July 07, 2023, 09:00:20 PM
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you can not invest on an empty stomach, it takes only a physically and mentally stabled person to even as much as think towards the line of  investment.

I think you should rather suggest that while eating, one should also consider investing.
Survival instincts, for example eating and drinking, fighting or fleeing when faced with threats such as blows, fires, animal attacks. If this instinct is not fulfilled, someone will die. In fact, this is also an investment. Investment is not always about finances but also about health in the future so you don't get sick easily. Because if you are sick, the expenses will be expensive and the assets you have will be of no use.

The very first thing that must be done is investing for the necessities of life first so that you have a healthy mind, a healthy body so that you make wise decisions in any case, including making decisions when investing in bitcoin.
lol, You have to eat, it's obvious, right?

... well... there may be a lot of instinct but if there is no money it will not help much, we must not confuse things, that instinct helps us in certain situations, they are generally very punctual, on the other hand bitcoin is not the only thing that exists to invest, in the same way having a signature campaign to generate main income, is not the best, even in countries where "supposedly" with a signature campaign you can pay bills.


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We don't know what'll be the situation of us tomorrow. Food is something that is essential for our living, which means for what we earn? The very first thing is to survive and for the same food is a major thing. I've seen lot of people who had money little by little without eating good. End of the day, they spend a huge amount on medical bills. For this it is always good to understand when to eat and what to eat. Same time we should also know the limits on spending on food and where to spend, because for the same food we used to different amounts depending on the location and the comfort.
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We don't know what'll be the situation of us tomorrow. Food is something that is essential for our living, which means for what we earn? The very first thing is to survive and for the same food is a major thing. I've seen lot of people who had money little by little without eating good. End of the day, they spend a huge amount on medical bills. For this it is always good to understand when to eat and what to eat. Same time we should also know the limits on spending on food and where to spend, because for the same food we used to different amounts depending on the location and the comfort.
Correct. Food is basically a basic need that must be met at the earliest. because it concerns our life and health. even we will not be able to work optimally if we do not eat enough. and we have to maintain a healthy diet so that our bodies are always healthy and can generate more money that we can save and invest. Savings and investments can only be done if our basic needs have been met. that is, we must already have enough food stocks and so that we feel calm. so that when we make money again. then we save it to save and invest.

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July 08, 2023, 01:42:53 AM
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People must have things to eat to survive before they can do other things including investment.

You have made a valid observation regarding survival of life which is a natural instinct of human, and investment comes later. There is a significant portion of the world who face challenges on daily basis to provide food, shelter and healthcare for their families, and leaving little room for luxury of investment.

Indeed, financial security is crucial, and one should strike balance between securing one's basic needs and planning for the future. For those who have sufficient resources for investment, should consider investment in Bitcoin which is an emerging technology and can potentially reward substantial rewards in the long term.









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We don't know what'll be the situation of us tomorrow. Food is something that is essential for our living, which means for what we earn? The very first thing is to survive and for the same food is a major thing. I've seen lot of people who had money little by little without eating good. End of the day, they spend a huge amount on medical bills. For this it is always good to understand when to eat and what to eat. Same time we should also know the limits on spending on food and where to spend, because for the same food we used to different amounts depending on the location and the comfort.
Correct. Food is basically a basic need that must be met at the earliest. because it concerns our life and health. even we will not be able to work optimally if we do not eat enough. and we have to maintain a healthy diet so that our bodies are always healthy and can generate more money that we can save and invest. Savings and investments can only be done if our basic needs have been met. that is, we must already have enough food stocks and so that we feel calm. so that when we make money again. then we save it to save and invest.
True, however, they are all interrelated and complement each other,
so it will be very influential if we do not meet food needs first,
to be able to work optimally, of course it requires energy and we get this energy from nutritious food.



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July 08, 2023, 04:09:04 AM
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We don't know what'll be the situation of us tomorrow. Food is something that is essential for our living, which means for what we earn? The very first thing is to survive and for the same food is a major thing. I've seen lot of people who had money little by little without eating good. End of the day, they spend a huge amount on medical bills. For this it is always good to understand when to eat and what to eat. Same time we should also know the limits on spending on food and where to spend, because for the same food we used to different amounts depending on the location and the comfort.
Correct. Food is basically a basic need that must be met at the earliest. because it concerns our life and health. even we will not be able to work optimally if we do not eat enough. and we have to maintain a healthy diet so that our bodies are always healthy and can generate more money that we can save and invest. Savings and investments can only be done if our basic needs have been met. that is, we must already have enough food stocks and so that we feel calm. so that when we make money again. then we save it to save and invest.
True, however, they are all interrelated and complement each other,
so it will be very influential if we do not meet food needs first,
to be able to work optimally, of course it requires energy and we get this energy from nutritious food.
especially for those who work by relying on their minds, of course nutritional intake must be considered, lest our brains be forced but nutritional intake neglected, on the other hand of course brain refreshment is also very much needed to cope with possible stress levels. in eating does not mean to be excessive, but we must be able to maintain the balance of nutrients needed by the body, of course a healthy diet is needed, to maintain physical and spiritual fitness

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We don't know what'll be the situation of us tomorrow. Food is something that is essential for our living, which means for what we earn? The very first thing is to survive and for the same food is a major thing. I've seen lot of people who had money little by little without eating good. End of the day, they spend a huge amount on medical bills. For this it is always good to understand when to eat and what to eat. Same time we should also know the limits on spending on food and where to spend, because for the same food we used to different amounts depending on the location and the comfort.
Food is unquestionably the foundation of our existence, just as unexpected as tomorrow's events. Unfortunately, its a sad irony of life that people frequently sacrifice good nutrition in their unrelenting search for monetary gain, only to have their hard-earned money drained by medical expenses. Isnt that a circumstance that makes you think?

"Eat to live, don't live to eat" is a proverb that I firmly believe in. Its essential to comprehend our bodies' needs and modify our eating behaviours accordingly. I also support conscious food spending, which involves choosing nutrient-dense foods rather than restricting oneself.

Food prices undoubtedly vary depending on location and comfort, but wouldnt it be better to spend money on wholesome food that keeps us healthy rather than sacrificing nutrition? In the end, good health is wealth!

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We don't know what'll be the situation of us tomorrow. Food is something that is essential for our living, which means for what we earn? The very first thing is to survive and for the same food is a major thing. I've seen lot of people who had money little by little without eating good. End of the day, they spend a huge amount on medical bills. For this it is always good to understand when to eat and what to eat. Same time we should also know the limits on spending on food and where to spend, because for the same food we used to different amounts depending on the location and the comfort.
Correct. Food is basically a basic need that must be met at the earliest. because it concerns our life and health. even we will not be able to work optimally if we do not eat enough. and we have to maintain a healthy diet so that our bodies are always healthy and can generate more money that we can save and invest. Savings and investments can only be done if our basic needs have been met. that is, we must already have enough food stocks and so that we feel calm. so that when we make money again. then we save it to save and invest.
True, however, they are all interrelated and complement each other,
so it will be very influential if we do not meet food needs first,
to be able to work optimally, of course it requires energy and we get this energy from nutritious food.
Well everything is related and Food is the most priority. But don't buy too much food. but buy enough to meet our body's balanced nutrition. And actually the money to meet the need to eat is not too big. Compared to the money we spend for other purposes such as internet bills and so on. everything must be adjusted to the right portion so that you can still leave money to save and invest.

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July 08, 2023, 09:46:47 AM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

I think if you don't have what to eat, you should be looking for that first. It's easy to say  "Look for what to invest, not what to eat" if you are living with parents and the problem of what to eat is usually solved by opening the fridge. But there many people living on their own, and should spend their money on the rent on what to eat first of all.

But I agree with you regarding selling bitcointalk accounts that it's not a good solution to the problem. If you don't have time to make many posts, then just make one post in a week, but keep your account, don't sell it. Firstly, it breaks the rules of the community. And secondly, being a reputable member of bitcointalk can be a huge deal in the future, and then you will regret selling your account.

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Based on the answers of a few, it will be clear to everyone that it is really important to think about what we will eat every day before looking for something to invest. The state of our lives is different, there are people whose income is just enough for food and daily expenses, but if there is a source of capital or income that is good enough to invest in projects that we know have potential, why not.

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Not all types of investment are actually profitable or could even assure us that we can get out of poverty through it
Indeed, It is a fact that not all investments yield good returns, we need to be good in cherry picking, and invest our hard earned money in projects led by reputed and professional management teams. These teams should have proven track record of delivering satisfactory returns to their investors, while taking appropriate measures to protect investors fund in case of any unforeseen situation. Nevertheless, as a fundamental rule of investment, there is certain level of risk involved with every type of Investment. Hence, we should make assessment of our financial situation and risk tolerance level, before making any investment decision.

I believe that consistently investing in Bitcoin through DCA strategy can potentially assist families in transitioning from lower income bracket to middle class over the long term.









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July 08, 2023, 03:32:05 PM
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Well everything is related and Food is the most priority. But don't buy too much food. but buy enough to meet our body's balanced nutrition. And actually the money to meet the need to eat is not too big. Compared to the money we spend for other purposes such as internet bills and so on. everything must be adjusted to the right portion so that you can still leave money to save and invest.
If they already earn enough every month then they should be able to set aside for investment, even if it can only be 20% of the total salary, it doesn't matter as long as we can adjust the cash flow we have.

Food has indeed become a priority, whatever we do is in order to be able to eat to survive with nutritious food of course it is a must for us to stay fit, well about other payments such as rent, internet, electricity and other maintenance bills that must be determined from the salary we get it has become a routine before investing for sure they will prioritize what is needed, maybe if there is more than monthly money they can invest in bitcoin.

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Based on the answers of a few, it will be clear to everyone that it is really important to think about what we will eat every day before looking for something to invest. The state of our lives is different, there are people whose income is just enough for food and daily expenses, but if there is a source of capital or income that is good enough to invest in projects that we know have potential, why not.
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If you invest $1,000, are you willing to accept a loss of $500? The answer is Yes. That shows you are capable of taking great risks. You can therefore be comfortable allocating the majority of your assets to cryptocurrencies. If NO… You should reconsider your loss as much as you can.


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July 08, 2023, 08:55:12 PM
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Based on the answers of a few, it will be clear to everyone that it is really important to think about what we will eat every day before looking for something to invest. The state of our lives is different, there are people whose income is just enough for food and daily expenses, but if there is a source of capital or income that is good enough to invest in projects that we know have potential, why not.
I agree with you that you must desire to eat before you consider investing. Without food, no one can exist; most people labor to eat and feed their families. You must have enough money before thinking about investing, and investing is all about risk; you must only invest money that you can afford to lose. If you invest money and don't have enough money later on, how will you feed your family? It is better to have a source of income before thinking about investing so that you can feed yourself first.

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Well everything is related and Food is the most priority. But don't buy too much food. but buy enough to meet our body's balanced nutrition. And actually the money to meet the need to eat is not too big. Compared to the money we spend for other purposes such as internet bills and so on. everything must be adjusted to the right portion so that you can still leave money to save and invest.
If they already earn enough every month then they should be able to set aside for investment, even if it can only be 20% of the total salary, it doesn't matter as long as we can adjust the cash flow we have.

Food has indeed become a priority, whatever we do is in order to be able to eat to survive with nutritious food of course it is a must for us to stay fit, well about other payments such as rent, internet, electricity and other maintenance bills that must be determined from the salary we get it has become a routine before investing for sure they will prioritize what is needed, maybe if there is more than monthly money they can invest in bitcoin.
It is true that the amount invested does not always have to be large. But actually a few percent is not a problem if its ability is only limited to that. But the most important thing is that we are consistent not to spend it all and always refrain from spending things that are not too important. In order to be able to set aside and be stored in savings or investments. all of that requires consistency and patience in refraining from living a wasteful life. if you are used to not wasteful. then investing becomes quite fun and not too mentally burdensome. especially if we already have a target goal. then everything seems to be a motivation to quickly reach the goal.

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July 08, 2023, 09:29:04 PM
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Well everything is related and Food is the most priority. But don't buy too much food. but buy enough to meet our body's balanced nutrition. And actually the money to meet the need to eat is not too big. Compared to the money we spend for other purposes such as internet bills and so on. everything must be adjusted to the right portion so that you can still leave money to save and invest.
If they already earn enough every month then they should be able to set aside for investment, even if it can only be 20% of the total salary, it doesn't matter as long as we can adjust the cash flow we have.

Food has indeed become a priority, whatever we do is in order to be able to eat to survive with nutritious food of course it is a must for us to stay fit, well about other payments such as rent, internet, electricity and other maintenance bills that must be determined from the salary we get it has become a routine before investing for sure they will prioritize what is needed, maybe if there is more than monthly money they can invest in bitcoin.
It is true that the amount invested does not always have to be large. But actually a few percent is not a problem if its ability is only limited to that. But the most important thing is that we are consistent not to spend it all and always refrain from spending things that are not too important. In order to be able to set aside and be stored in savings or investments. all of that requires consistency and patience in refraining from living a wasteful life. if you are used to not wasteful. then investing becomes quite fun and not too mentally burdensome. especially if we already have a target goal. then everything seems to be a motivation to quickly reach the goal.
Of course, you cant really just make yourself do make out some investment on going all in and trying out to risk on the money which are supposed to be buy the important needs like food and others which it would be

having no sense that you would really be ending up on gambler like mind on investment. You've been thinking already about the profits on which it could possibly make which is really that a bad idea.
Invest on something which you can afford to lose when you do touch up investing but not on the sense that you would really be that too careless on making decisions. It is not really that something avoidable
for you to give focus or importance on what you should eat on a day. You cant just neglect or ignore it out because this is something that needs for you to prioritize or else
then survival would really be tough.

Its normal to be that having some sacrifices but having that much would really be giving a huge toll on which you might really regret later on. So better avoid that!.

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Well everything is related and Food is the most priority. But don't buy too much food. but buy enough to meet our body's balanced nutrition. And actually the money to meet the need to eat is not too big. Compared to the money we spend for other purposes such as internet bills and so on. everything must be adjusted to the right portion so that you can still leave money to save and invest.
If they already earn enough every month then they should be able to set aside for investment, even if it can only be 20% of the total salary, it doesn't matter as long as we can adjust the cash flow we have.

Food has indeed become a priority, whatever we do is in order to be able to eat to survive with nutritious food of course it is a must for us to stay fit, well about other payments such as rent, internet, electricity and other maintenance bills that must be determined from the salary we get it has become a routine before investing for sure they will prioritize what is needed, maybe if there is more than monthly money they can invest in bitcoin.
It is true that the amount invested does not always have to be large. But actually a few percent is not a problem if its ability is only limited to that. But the most important thing is that we are consistent not to spend it all and always refrain from spending things that are not too important. In order to be able to set aside and be stored in savings or investments. all of that requires consistency and patience in refraining from living a wasteful life. if you are used to not wasteful. then investing becomes quite fun and not too mentally burdensome. especially if we already have a target goal. then everything seems to be a motivation to quickly reach the goal.
Of course, you cant really just make yourself do make out some investment on going all in and trying out to risk on the money which are supposed to be buy the important needs like food and others which it would be

having no sense that you would really be ending up on gambler like mind on investment. You've been thinking already about the profits on which it could possibly make which is really that a bad idea.
Invest on something which you can afford to lose when you do touch up investing but not on the sense that you would really be that too careless on making decisions. It is not really that something avoidable
for you to give focus or importance on what you should eat on a day. You cant just neglect or ignore it out because this is something that needs for you to prioritize or else
then survival would really be tough.

Its normal to be that having some sacrifices but having that much would really be giving a huge toll on which you might really regret later on. So better avoid that!.
Well of course and you are right. Because the realm of investment is not a realm that people who don't have cold money can enter. Investments can only be made if we really have cold money or money that we are not going to use for a long time. Or if we invest in high-risk investments. then of course the money that must be used is not just cold money. but it is money that must be prepared if you have to lose. And investment can only run after the primary and secondary needs are met. because if primary and secondary needs have not been met then someone will definitely not be able to invest for the long term. because the investment will end up being sold back to meet its needs. And that can make losses happen. because suddenly selling investment assets at a time that has not reached the profit target because there is an urgent need, of course this will make someone frustrated due to losses.

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July 08, 2023, 10:49:17 PM
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Based on the answers of a few, it will be clear to everyone that it is really important to think about what we will eat every day before looking for something to invest. The state of our lives is different, there are people whose income is just enough for food and daily expenses, but if there is a source of capital or income that is good enough to invest in projects that we know have potential, why not.
Investing is always closely related to more capital or income that exceeds what is consumed every day, but this is just a very general expression because there are also people who have more income but don't dare to invest. So it can be concluded that in addition to the capital that must be available, the desire and courage must also be present in someone who wants to become an investor in any case, because without these two things, of course, someone will not immediately make an investment in any form.

You're right, it's important to have capital when it comes to investing, so I said that people like us who only earn a meager salary are very impossible to invest because we think more about what our family can eat every day, but I'm working on a method to somehow save by finding a way to earn money online and this is what I will use to invest in my plan to enter online investment.

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I agree with you that you must desire to eat before you consider investing. Without food, no one can exist; most people labor to eat and feed their families. You must have enough money before thinking about investing, and investing is all about risk; you must only invest money that you can afford to lose. If you invest money and don't have enough money later on, how will you feed your family? It is better to have a source of income before thinking about investing so that you can feed yourself first.
Yeah truly indeed , It's very difficult because we just go in and out of investments and then we don't have any investment capital instead of food for our family, we put it in the investment and then there's no guarantee that it will grow. That's why I just saved my earnings online and that's what I'll try to grow if I'm lucky and earned a lot, then the half of it is for the future of my family and the rest is for my life plans such as investing but it won't be lost food because is very important to everyone.

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July 11, 2023, 11:34:33 AM
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that's easy to say when u r well fed.
People must have things to eat to survive before they can do other things including investment.
Yep and yep.

I've seen a few threads around here dealing with food, and I don't think OP is seeing things from a lot of people's perspective--especially when inflation is so high that every time I go food shopping, prices have increased.  Maybe just a little each time, but the overall effect since the beginning of the COVID epidemic is very noticeable. 

Besides, if you can save money by decreasing the amount you spend on food and other necessities, the more you'll have to invest.  That makes sense, right?  So I'm all for the threads in Economics and elsewhere dealing with penny-pinching topics.  Not everyone here is rich, you know.

I agree with you that not everyone here is rich, OP fails to understand that, many individual and family out there finds it very difficult to feed, if individuals doesn't feed well, where will they get the funds to invest, I think the first thing is to feed well, then plan how to invest.

Note investment is good but OP should know that it not for everyone and is not a do-or-die affair, but if you have what it takes to invest, embrace the opportunity, and research well before making conclusion.

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Based on the answers of a few, it will be clear to everyone that it is really important to think about what we will eat every day before looking for something to invest. The state of our lives is different, there are people whose income is just enough for food and daily expenses, but if there is a source of capital or income that is good enough to invest in projects that we know have potential, why not.
Correct. And everyone's financial condition is indeed different from one another. There are people who have the same number of needs as the total salary they produce (only enough to meet basic needs) so naturally it is difficult for them to save. and there are also people who have a small number of needs while their salary income is quite large and there is a lot left over, so they can still invest and save. Everyone's financial arrangements must be different too. But indeed not everyone is lucky. So that many even the number of needs is greater than the salary generated. so that sometimes he has to endure hunger occasionally (poor).

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True, however, they are all interrelated and complement each other,
so it will be very influential if we do not meet food needs first,
to be able to work optimally, of course it requires energy and we get this energy from nutritious food.
Nutrition from food is something that must be seen and thought about because usually a body with a better level of health will always be able to work optimally throughout the day without getting tired more quickly. And this is also often advised by doctors in the health sector to all people so that people do not choose food at random, even though food is an important thing that cannot be replaced with anything else in life.

especially for those who work by relying on their minds, of course nutritional intake must be considered, lest our brains be forced but nutritional intake neglected, on the other hand of course brain refreshment is also very much needed to cope with possible stress levels. in eating does not mean to be excessive, but we must be able to maintain the balance of nutrients needed by the body, of course a healthy diet is needed, to maintain physical and spiritual fitness
Apart from having to maintain a healthy diet so that physical and spiritual fitness can be maintained, places to eat and places to sell food must also be considered in this regard. Because not all fast food snacks can be healthy for our bodies and the place that is usually used for eating must also be clean so that we can be more comfortable when enjoying the food we like. And in terms of refreshing the brain, I think this still varies a lot for some people because refreshing to tourist attractions can also refresh the brain and get away from stress.

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July 14, 2023, 10:01:17 PM
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Based on the answers of a few, it will be clear to everyone that it is really important to think about what we will eat every day before looking for something to invest. The state of our lives is different, there are people whose income is just enough for food and daily expenses, but if there is a source of capital or income that is good enough to invest in projects that we know have potential, why not.
Correct. And everyone's financial condition is indeed different from one another. There are people who have the same number of needs as the total salary they produce (only enough to meet basic needs) so naturally it is difficult for them to save. and there are also people who have a small number of needs while their salary income is quite large and there is a lot left over, so they can still invest and save. Everyone's financial arrangements must be different too. But indeed not everyone is lucky. So that many even the number of needs is greater than the salary generated. so that sometimes he has to endure hunger occasionally (poor).

It's really lucky if you have a good job and a lot of income, you can actually save more. It's really hard to grow up in hardship because we really have to work very hard just to achieve the desired dream but usually no matter how hard you try as long as the salary is not enough then there is really nothing. If I was a young and had a good course completed, I might have just moved abroad. Here, what the workers earn is just enough, especially if you have a family like me, so I'm really double work even online, ill know that if I'll get lucky here , i want to have a business investment . So im still don't lose hope.

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July 14, 2023, 10:48:48 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.

I think if you don't have what to eat, you should be looking for that first. It's easy to say  "Look for what to invest, not what to eat" if you are living with parents and the problem of what to eat is usually solved by opening the fridge. But there many people living on their own, and should spend their money on the rent on what to eat first of all.

But I agree with you regarding selling bitcointalk accounts that it's not a good solution to the problem. If you don't have time to make many posts, then just make one post in a week, but keep your account, don't sell it. Firstly, it breaks the rules of the community. And secondly, being a reputable member of bitcointalk can be a huge deal in the future, and then you will regret selling your account.
Well if we look at the condition of the OP then the analogy is like don't think too much about tomorrow think about a bright future even though if we look closely when we don't think about tomorrow and don't have something to eat then let alone for a bright future, even for the day after tomorrow or one week ahead we don't know if it still exists or not because we are too obsessed with the future lol.
Indeed, in this case there are exceptions if we are still lived by parents but I think everyone here is very mature to just ask parents for food.
Investment is of course good I definitely support that but that doesn't mean we do everything in investment so that just to eat is difficult.

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July 14, 2023, 11:21:57 PM
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Based on the answers of a few, it will be clear to everyone that it is really important to think about what we will eat every day before looking for something to invest. The state of our lives is different, there are people whose income is just enough for food and daily expenses, but if there is a source of capital or income that is good enough to invest in projects that we know have potential, why not.
Correct. And everyone's financial condition is indeed different from one another. There are people who have the same number of needs as the total salary they produce (only enough to meet basic needs) so naturally it is difficult for them to save. and there are also people who have a small number of needs while their salary income is quite large and there is a lot left over, so they can still invest and save. Everyone's financial arrangements must be different too. But indeed not everyone is lucky. So that many even the number of needs is greater than the salary generated. so that sometimes he has to endure hunger occasionally (poor).

It's really lucky if you have a good job and a lot of income, you can actually save more. It's really hard to grow up in hardship because we really have to work very hard just to achieve the desired dream but usually no matter how hard you try as long as the salary is not enough then there is really nothing. If I was a young and had a good course completed, I might have just moved abroad. Here, what the workers earn is just enough, especially if you have a family like me, so I'm really double work even online, ill know that if I'll get lucky here , i want to have a business investment . So im still don't lose hope.
Although sometimes life is not easy. but we must keep motivation and passion in our lives to keep on fighting harder to achieve what we dream of. A few months ago or more precisely last year after the Pandemic was over, I personally also struggled from the bottom again. But today my efforts are starting to pay off and I have enough salary increase to help my financial growth grow back more stable. I hope that soon you will also have more and more stable income which can help your financial ability to grow back better. Anyone is currently struggling against high inflation in several countries. but I personally am lucky because I am in a country that is currently experiencing fairly good economic growth. So life is not so difficult here. One thing we should always be grateful for is that we are still given life as well as health and strength to still be able to work and earn money to support ourselves and our families.

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July 14, 2023, 11:45:54 PM
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Based on the answers of a few, it will be clear to everyone that it is really important to think about what we will eat every day before looking for something to invest. The state of our lives is different, there are people whose income is just enough for food and daily expenses, but if there is a source of capital or income that is good enough to invest in projects that we know have potential, why not.
Correct. And everyone's financial condition is indeed different from one another. There are people who have the same number of needs as the total salary they produce (only enough to meet basic needs) so naturally it is difficult for them to save. and there are also people who have a small number of needs while their salary income is quite large and there is a lot left over, so they can still invest and save. Everyone's financial arrangements must be different too. But indeed not everyone is lucky. So that many even the number of needs is greater than the salary generated. so that sometimes he has to endure hunger occasionally (poor).

It's really lucky if you have a good job and a lot of income, you can actually save more. It's really hard to grow up in hardship because we really have to work very hard just to achieve the desired dream but usually no matter how hard you try as long as the salary is not enough then there is really nothing. If I was a young and had a good course completed, I might have just moved abroad. Here, what the workers earn is just enough, especially if you have a family like me, so I'm really double work even online, ill know that if I'll get lucky here , i want to have a business investment . So im still don't lose hope.
Although sometimes life is not easy. but we must keep motivation and passion in our lives to keep on fighting harder to achieve what we dream of. A few months ago or more precisely last year after the Pandemic was over, I personally also struggled from the bottom again. But today my efforts are starting to pay off and I have enough salary increase to help my financial growth grow back more stable. I hope that soon you will also have more and more stable income which can help your financial ability to grow back better. Anyone is currently struggling against high inflation in several countries. but I personally am lucky because I am in a country that is currently experiencing fairly good economic growth. So life is not so difficult here. One thing we should always be grateful for is that we are still given life as well as health and strength to still be able to work and earn money to support ourselves and our families.
We dont have choice but to move on and fight for our lives when it comes to daily survival which we know that having money or income is the most crucial thing that we should strive on because if not then for sure you
would really be living miserably. We cant really able to judge some people on what they've been doing since we know that not all would really be having the opportunity or having the capability on making investment because the money that they do earn is really just that sufficient for their daily living or survival on which it isnt really just that enough for them to make investment even if they wanted to do so.
There are really things in life which arent meant to be done because of lacking of opportunity or chances for us to deal up with specially on having no money or funds to invest on.

This is why its better not to make out judgement about into those people who had missed out opportunity on investing because we dont really know on whats the story behind those things.
Invest if you can able to to do so but dont forget to give prioritization on things which are needing to be deal up first. Sacrifices could be done but dont come into a point
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July 14, 2023, 11:48:26 PM
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Based on the answers of a few, it will be clear to everyone that it is really important to think about what we will eat every day before looking for something to invest. The state of our lives is different, there are people whose income is just enough for food and daily expenses, but if there is a source of capital or income that is good enough to invest in projects that we know have potential, why not.
Correct. And everyone's financial condition is indeed different from one another. There are people who have the same number of needs as the total salary they produce (only enough to meet basic needs) so naturally it is difficult for them to save. and there are also people who have a small number of needs while their salary income is quite large and there is a lot left over, so they can still invest and save. Everyone's financial arrangements must be different too. But indeed not everyone is lucky. So that many even the number of needs is greater than the salary generated. so that sometimes he has to endure hunger occasionally (poor).

It's really lucky if you have a good job and a lot of income, you can actually save more. It's really hard to grow up in hardship because we really have to work very hard just to achieve the desired dream but usually no matter how hard you try as long as the salary is not enough then there is really nothing. If I was a young and had a good course completed, I might have just moved abroad. Here, what the workers earn is just enough, especially if you have a family like me, so I'm really double work even online, ill know that if I'll get lucky here , i want to have a business investment . So im still don't lose hope.
Although sometimes life is not easy. but we must keep motivation and passion in our lives to keep on fighting harder to achieve what we dream of. A few months ago or more precisely last year after the Pandemic was over, I personally also struggled from the bottom again. But today my efforts are starting to pay off and I have enough salary increase to help my financial growth grow back more stable. I hope that soon you will also have more and more stable income which can help your financial ability to grow back better. Anyone is currently struggling against high inflation in several countries. but I personally am lucky because I am in a country that is currently experiencing fairly good economic growth. So life is not so difficult here. One thing we should always be grateful for is that we are still given life as well as health and strength to still be able to work and earn money to support ourselves and our families.
That's why I really take care of my health first, what's important to me right now is that I have enough to eat, a strong body and a current income because I know that like you, I can also get a good life. Food for a healthy life first and then save little by little before I invest again. So that I have enough skills in case I enter it again , but right now I only use a small investment that I earned mostly from working online and my salary in my work is for my family.

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Based on the answers of a few, it will be clear to everyone that it is really important to think about what we will eat every day before looking for something to invest. The state of our lives is different, there are people whose income is just enough for food and daily expenses, but if there is a source of capital or income that is good enough to invest in projects that we know have potential, why not.
Correct. And everyone's financial condition is indeed different from one another. There are people who have the same number of needs as the total salary they produce (only enough to meet basic needs) so naturally it is difficult for them to save. and there are also people who have a small number of needs while their salary income is quite large and there is a lot left over, so they can still invest and save. Everyone's financial arrangements must be different too. But indeed not everyone is lucky. So that many even the number of needs is greater than the salary generated. so that sometimes he has to endure hunger occasionally (poor).

It's really lucky if you have a good job and a lot of income, you can actually save more. It's really hard to grow up in hardship because we really have to work very hard just to achieve the desired dream but usually no matter how hard you try as long as the salary is not enough then there is really nothing. If I was a young and had a good course completed, I might have just moved abroad. Here, what the workers earn is just enough, especially if you have a family like me, so I'm really double work even online, ill know that if I'll get lucky here , i want to have a business investment . So im still don't lose hope.
Although sometimes life is not easy. but we must keep motivation and passion in our lives to keep on fighting harder to achieve what we dream of. A few months ago or more precisely last year after the Pandemic was over, I personally also struggled from the bottom again. But today my efforts are starting to pay off and I have enough salary increase to help my financial growth grow back more stable. I hope that soon you will also have more and more stable income which can help your financial ability to grow back better. Anyone is currently struggling against high inflation in several countries. but I personally am lucky because I am in a country that is currently experiencing fairly good economic growth. So life is not so difficult here. One thing we should always be grateful for is that we are still given life as well as health and strength to still be able to work and earn money to support ourselves and our families.
We dont have choice but to move on and fight for our lives when it comes to daily survival which we know that having money or income is the most crucial thing that we should strive on because if not then for sure you
would really be living miserably. We cant really able to judge some people on what they've been doing since we know that not all would really be having the opportunity or having the capability on making investment because the money that they do earn is really just that sufficient for their daily living or survival on which it isnt really just that enough for them to make investment even if they wanted to do so.
There are really things in life which arent meant to be done because of lacking of opportunity or chances for us to deal up with specially on having no money or funds to invest on.

This is why its better not to make out judgement about into those people who had missed out opportunity on investing because we dont really know on whats the story behind those things.
Invest if you can able to to do so but dont forget to give prioritization on things which are needing to be deal up first. Sacrifices could be done but dont come into a point
that you are really that putting everything on the line.
That's right guys. we still have to prioritize what should be prioritized. Investment is indeed important for those who already have the ability to do it. but for those who can't afford it financially, just meeting their daily needs is already a good thing. because maintaining life is the main point here. and food of course priority above all.

well we can not judge other people's lives only from what we see. because we really don't know what they are actually experiencing in their lives. both financially and in other matters. Right now we just need to be grateful and keep fighting hard to achieve a better life by staying focused on producing more.

That's why I really take care of my health first, what's important to me right now is that I have enough to eat, a strong body and a current income because I know that like you, I can also get a good life. Food for a healthy life first and then save little by little before I invest again. So that I have enough skills in case I enter it again , but right now I only use a small investment that I earned mostly from working online and my salary in my work is for my family.
Well at least you've done the right thing by prioritizing to maintain the health of your body. because the most important capital for a better work and life is starting from a healthy and strong body. I also produce from my main job and from side income in the real world and through online.

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Or do both and setup a Wasabi farm like someone in Australia managed to do despite it being a very difficult crop to grow apparently.   The majority of wasabi used as ingredient is not actually the real deal but a rough assimilation due to the real thing being difficult and expensive to get hold of.   Ideally perfect something others struggle with yet there is long term demand for, that could be food though generally crop harvesting is usually about the mass production.  I read recently of someone who survived a drought in the area by being the one farmer who had the skills to find ground water in a ravine type geological basin of crop growing hence he had the food to sell when others didnt and did well from it.

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Based on the answers of a few, it will be clear to everyone that it is really important to think about what we will eat every day before looking for something to invest. The state of our lives is different, there are people whose income is just enough for food and daily expenses, but if there is a source of capital or income that is good enough to invest in projects that we know have potential, why not.
Looking for what to eat daily is important but as you look for what to eat for the day it is also good we make plans  on how to invest for the future, I know it might not be easy but sometimes when we have plans in our mind it makes us to work towards our plans and when we get opportunities we make use of its because of the plans we have already have in our mind. We shouldn't just have the mindset of looking for what to eat at the moment to survive but also think of making investment for tomorrow.

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The utmost importance lies in what sustains us in the present moment, enabling our survival. As for future considerations, they shall be pondered once our means of sustenance have been secured. I do not impede anyone from engaging in investments; however, the current need for nutrition and sustenance holds profound influence over our future well-being.

Should there indeed be individuals in this forum who derive their livelihood from their earnings, I am grateful for the collective benefits that our gathering bestows. And if such individuals remain committed to improving their economic situation, it seems that support would be immensely valuable, regardless of its source, yet particularly from those closest to them.

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Based on the answers of a few, it will be clear to everyone that it is really important to think about what we will eat every day before looking for something to invest. The state of our lives is different, there are people whose income is just enough for food and daily expenses, but if there is a source of capital or income that is good enough to invest in projects that we know have potential, why not.
Correct. And everyone's financial condition is indeed different from one another. There are people who have the same number of needs as the total salary they produce (only enough to meet basic needs) so naturally it is difficult for them to save. and there are also people who have a small number of needs while their salary income is quite large and there is a lot left over, so they can still invest and save. Everyone's financial arrangements must be different too. But indeed not everyone is lucky. So that many even the number of needs is greater than the salary generated. so that sometimes he has to endure hunger occasionally (poor).

It's really lucky if you have a good job and a lot of income, you can actually save more. It's really hard to grow up in hardship because we really have to work very hard just to achieve the desired dream but usually no matter how hard you try as long as the salary is not enough then there is really nothing. If I was a young and had a good course completed, I might have just moved abroad. Here, what the workers earn is just enough, especially if you have a family like me, so I'm really double work even online, ill know that if I'll get lucky here , i want to have a business investment . So im still don't lose hope.
Although sometimes life is not easy. but we must keep motivation and passion in our lives to keep on fighting harder to achieve what we dream of. A few months ago or more precisely last year after the Pandemic was over, I personally also struggled from the bottom again. But today my efforts are starting to pay off and I have enough salary increase to help my financial growth grow back more stable. I hope that soon you will also have more and more stable income which can help your financial ability to grow back better. Anyone is currently struggling against high inflation in several countries. but I personally am lucky because I am in a country that is currently experiencing fairly good economic growth. So life is not so difficult here. One thing we should always be grateful for is that we are still given life as well as health and strength to still be able to work and earn money to support ourselves and our families.
We dont have choice but to move on and fight for our lives when it comes to daily survival which we know that having money or income is the most crucial thing that we should strive on because if not then for sure you
would really be living miserably. We cant really able to judge some people on what they've been doing since we know that not all would really be having the opportunity or having the capability on making investment because the money that they do earn is really just that sufficient for their daily living or survival on which it isnt really just that enough for them to make investment even if they wanted to do so.
There are really things in life which arent meant to be done because of lacking of opportunity or chances for us to deal up with specially on having no money or funds to invest on.

This is why its better not to make out judgement about into those people who had missed out opportunity on investing because we dont really know on whats the story behind those things.
Invest if you can able to to do so but dont forget to give prioritization on things which are needing to be deal up first. Sacrifices could be done but dont come into a point
that you are really that putting everything on the line.
You're right there, because we don't know what they're going through, such as the poverty that they earn not enough instead of investing, it's better for them to feed their family. But there are a few who started in poverty and are now rising for the future. The only good thing is to do what should be right so that the result of the plan will be better, but ofcourse we can't neglect our health, which is our greatest investment.
That's why I really take care of my health first, what's important to me right now is that I have enough to eat, a strong body and a current income because I know that like you, I can also get a good life. Food for a healthy life first and then save little by little before I invest again. So that I have enough skills in case I enter it again , but right now I only use a small investment that I earned mostly from working online and my salary in my work is for my family.
Well at least you've done the right thing by prioritizing to maintain the health of your body. because the most important capital for a better work and life is starting from a healthy and strong body. I also produce from my main job and from side income in the real world and through online.
That's why, when you're healthy and progressive in life, the effort definitely pays off. But for now just keep working while investing a little.
Based on the answers of a few, it will be clear to everyone that it is really important to think about what we will eat every day before looking for something to invest. The state of our lives is different, there are people whose income is just enough for food and daily expenses, but if there is a source of capital or income that is good enough to invest in projects that we know have potential, why not.
Looking for what to eat daily is important but as you look for what to eat for the day it is also good we make plans  on how to invest for the future, I know it might not be easy but sometimes when we have plans in our mind it makes us to work towards our plans and when we get opportunities we make use of its because of the plans we have already have in our mind. We shouldn't just have the mindset of looking for what to eat at the moment to survive but also think of making investment for tomorrow.
I already have that in my plan my friend, not huge but someday theres savings can i use for investing. Anyway, I have invested online, especially in cryptocurrencies. But this seems like a good reminder to me that I can use on my daily basis.

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Well if we look at the condition of the OP then the analogy is like don't think too much about tomorrow think about a bright future even though if we look closely when we don't think about tomorrow and don't have something to eat then let alone for a bright future, even for the day after tomorrow or one week ahead we don't know if it still exists or not because we are too obsessed with the future lol.
Indeed, in this case there are exceptions if we are still lived by parents but I think everyone here is very mature to just ask parents for food.
Investment is of course good I definitely support that but that doesn't mean we do everything in investment so that just to eat is difficult.

I think before reaching a certain level of income, the income that you don't need to think of how to cover your basic needs, you shouldn't think of investing at all. It shouldn't be like this, "Well, my salary is small, so, I can't afford investing a lot, but I can afford investing $50 per month, so, why not?" No. Those $50 will be taken from your "unnecessary spending", like spending on your entertainment, entertainment of your wife and kids, and you shouldn't just cut that and invest the money. Because cutting on your happiness can cause nose-diving at some point, and we don't need that.

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July 15, 2023, 09:37:19 AM
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There is a need for both investment and consumption so after meeting the basic needs it is better to invest a little for your future. It is true that there are risks involved in investing but choosing the right currency to invest in is less risky. There is nothing to eat here, if you invest less, it will gradually increase. You may get your salary at the end of the month and from this money you spend money in various sectors to run your daily life. If you set aside some portion of your salary, this is your savings. Rather than investing in cash, investing in currencies like bitcoin and holding them will yield better results.

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July 15, 2023, 10:55:21 AM
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There is a need for both investment and consumption so after meeting the basic needs it is better to invest a little for your future. It is true that there are risks involved in investing but choosing the right currency to invest in is less risky. There is nothing to eat here, if you invest less, it will gradually increase. You may get your salary at the end of the month and from this money you spend money in various sectors to run your daily life. If you set aside some portion of your salary, this is your savings. Rather than investing in cash, investing in currencies like bitcoin and holding them will yield better results.
Of course, we need to provide for our basic needs, but this cannot provide us with financial freedom, and bitcoin can do this if we use it correctly, buy and sell at the right time.

This can be a long road, because not everyone has a salary that will allow them to save enough money so that investments can increase quickly. For everyone, it will take a different time, but this is a chance that is worth taking advantage of, otherwise if nothing is save and invested, then in this case nothing will change in our life.
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July 15, 2023, 11:00:38 AM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future. I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home. I knew some senior members in this forum that started using member rank to work before they get to legendary to spread many investments around the country, because they didn't look for what to eat at the moment than to work hard to used their opportunities to invested in BTC before they became who they are today.
Will you invest now or you will be like that person that is looking for what to eat? It will be favourable if you can change that attitude of selling what will make you great in future just because of what will survive you at the moment. No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
I understand that finding something to eat in everyday life is an important priority for many people. When faced with a difficult financial situation, investing can become a lower priority than securing basic needs.

Yes, selling bitcointalk accounts is not a good solution and can bring bad consequences. Keeping an account and being a reputable member of the community can provide many benefits in the future, including the opportunity to participate in valuable contracts or projects.

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July 15, 2023, 11:05:21 AM
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Make sure your family and personal needs are met after that I don't think it's a problem to start investing if there is still money left over,
other than that not always the investment generates profits and it must be considered,
The risks involved must be considered as important.
Bitcoin is an investment asset that has been proven to be able to answer many people's doubts.

Basic needs are indeed the main choice for anyone, but not all of us are in the same category of people regarding financial capabilities.
It's not wrong to take the opportunity to set aside whatever remaining money to put in the Bitcoin investment basket but don't expect returns in a short time.

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There is a need for both investment and consumption so after meeting the basic needs it is better to invest a little for your future. It is true that there are risks involved in investing but choosing the right currency to invest in is less risky. There is nothing to eat here, if you invest less, it will gradually increase. You may get your salary at the end of the month and from this money you spend money in various sectors to run your daily life. If you set aside some portion of your salary, this is your savings. Rather than investing in cash, investing in currencies like bitcoin and holding them will yield better results.
After all the primary needs are met, of course, including the rest in investment is the most appropriate thing. And in order for us to have more money left over, we must get used to living simply and refrain from being extravagant. We must have planning and investment for the future. and it takes discipline and good financial management in this case.

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July 15, 2023, 01:44:50 PM
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Well if we look at the condition of the OP then the analogy is like don't think too much about tomorrow think about a bright future even though if we look closely when we don't think about tomorrow and don't have something to eat then let alone for a bright future, even for the day after tomorrow or one week ahead we don't know if it still exists or not because we are too obsessed with the future lol.
Indeed, in this case there are exceptions if we are still lived by parents but I think everyone here is very mature to just ask parents for food.
Investment is of course good I definitely support that but that doesn't mean we do everything in investment so that just to eat is difficult.

I think before reaching a certain level of income, the income that you don't need to think of how to cover your basic needs, you shouldn't think of investing at all. It shouldn't be like this, "Well, my salary is small, so, I can't afford investing a lot, but I can afford investing $50 per month, so, why not?" No. Those $50 will be taken from your "unnecessary spending", like spending on your entertainment, entertainment of your wife and kids, and you shouldn't just cut that and invest the money. Because cutting on your happiness can cause nose-diving at some point, and we don't need that.
There are several things that cannot be separated in this case where when talking about needs and responsibilities, of course we also have to know and be able to distinguish between primary needs and secondary needs. when talking about responsibilities in the family, it remains the same.
We don't have to sacrifice other needs to make it seem as if Investment is everything. It is true that investment is one of the things that is very good and must be done, but besides that when we become a man who has a family (wife and children) we also cannot put it aside just because of the ambition to invest. Even if the intention is good but when forcing the will it is clearly not good.
Therefore, it is necessary to make some reasonable divisions in this matter so that our daily needs are not disturbed and our investment continues. It is not a matter of how small or large the investment is but how consistent we are in doing so.

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There is a vice versa between what to eat(food) and investment

Food is a consumable commodity essential for the livings.

Some grows food by themselves to eat while some buys the food with money all just to eat.
On this note, profiting from your investment would allow you to fit get what to eat if you can't grow what to eat by yourself.

Food as what to eat is any substance consumable by organisms for nutritional support, staying healthy and sustaining lives.
So you really need all that provisions on what to eat could have you to fit in going after after your investment.

While investment is a means of income providing you  a desirable and valuables as a possession of wealth for exchanges and services.

Must eat before going for inventory or while finding what to invest on.
Finding what to eat and what to invest is a continual process even after finding them you still continues.

That's the rotational relationship between food and inventory so don't get it twisted.

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Eating needs are important things to support life, in my opinion it is very difficult to find people who eat only with white bread without anything in order to invest in Bitcoin, especially the temptation to buy or shop now is increasingly difficult to avoid so that presenting favorite food is something that will be chosen before Invest.


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July 15, 2023, 02:35:11 PM
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Make sure your family and personal needs are met after that I don't think it's a problem to start investing if there is still money left over,
other than that not always the investment generates profits and it must be considered,
The risks involved must be considered as important.
Bitcoin is an investment asset that has been proven to be able to answer many people's doubts.

Basic needs are indeed the main choice for anyone, but not all of us are in the same category of people regarding financial capabilities.
It's not wrong to take the opportunity to set aside whatever remaining money to put in the Bitcoin investment basket but don't expect returns in a short time.

If you compare bitcoin to other assets, bitcoin is still very young, and its past price increases do not suggest that it will remain so in the future. That's why bitcoin is still considered a riskier asset than other assets, history can't prove and guarantee anything for the future.

There is nothing wrong with using excess money to invest in bitcoin, but it should be considered carefully once we have met our personal needs and already have some savings. An investment can't be more important than savings because no investment can guarantee a 100% return, even if it's bitcoin.

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July 15, 2023, 02:56:18 PM
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There is a need for both investment and consumption so after meeting the basic needs it is better to invest a little for your future. It is true that there are risks involved in investing but choosing the right currency to invest in is less risky. There is nothing to eat here, if you invest less, it will gradually increase. You may get your salary at the end of the month and from this money you spend money in various sectors to run your daily life. If you set aside some portion of your salary, this is your savings. Rather than investing in cash, investing in currencies like bitcoin and holding them will yield better results.
After all the primary needs are met, of course, including the rest in investment is the most appropriate thing. And in order for us to have more money left over, we must get used to living simply and refrain from being extravagant. We must have planning and investment for the future. and it takes discipline and good financial management in this case.

This may sound general, but your advice is good enough and can be carried out by any individual be it me or anyone else. Yes. Planning is deemed necessary and becomes a benchmark for percentages if we want to evaluate ourselves at the end of the year. for example, if we work in a government or private agency, how much money can we collect from our work, either salary or bonuses, and we give it to our beloved wife and family at the end of the year, with a record in a healthy way, of course. Cheesy Cheesy

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There is a need for both investment and consumption so after meeting the basic needs it is better to invest a little for your future. It is true that there are risks involved in investing but choosing the right currency to invest in is less risky. There is nothing to eat here, if you invest less, it will gradually increase. You may get your salary at the end of the month and from this money you spend money in various sectors to run your daily life. If you set aside some portion of your salary, this is your savings. Rather than investing in cash, investing in currencies like bitcoin and holding them will yield better results.
After all the primary needs are met, of course, including the rest in investment is the most appropriate thing. And in order for us to have more money left over, we must get used to living simply and refrain from being extravagant. We must have planning and investment for the future. and it takes discipline and good financial management in this case.

This may sound general, but your advice is good enough and can be carried out by any individual be it me or anyone else. Yes. Planning is deemed necessary and becomes a benchmark for percentages if we want to evaluate ourselves at the end of the year. for example, if we work in a government or private agency, how much money can we collect from our work, either salary or bonuses, and we give it to our beloved wife and family at the end of the year, with a record in a healthy way, of course. Cheesy Cheesy
Yeah right. By having and carefully planning, we will be able to maximize our financial management. Because we already have the stages that we will complete one by one. We can be more focused on the goals that have been planned and even life will be easier to save money. And besides that we also have to try to have more than one income. Because what we have to collect is not only for savings and investment but we also have to have emergency fund savings. Here are general suggestions and tips. but it is important to do at the basic stage of financial science.

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When we do not have knowledge in something even though we have capital or do it without any guidance from others, then this is a big mistake and we will definitely feel the loss, and we will find it difficult to fight poverty so as you said investing will give us to meet the needs of life especially our daily expenses, Now there are many things we can do to get a profit in investing but we must have an account that is connected to the link that we follow, because it is the main capital and needs guidance from people who are experienced in the field.

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July 15, 2023, 03:44:23 PM
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Eating needs are important things to support life, in my opinion it is very difficult to find people who eat only with white bread without anything in order to invest in Bitcoin, especially the temptation to buy or shop now is increasingly difficult to avoid so that presenting favorite food is something that will be chosen before Invest.
It really appreciates this life Smiley

Not everyone realizes the potential and opportunities in this market, the immediate factor to survive, sometimes having to admit life has difficult periods to challenge us to grow up more. I remember I used to work as a security guard for a bank, and I didn't have much money to spend, my days at work were quite hungry, and my gratitude goes to an uncle who helped and bought things eat for me, so in life there are different situations if we know how things are going then maybe all of them feel good, lessons pass and repetition helps us have many skills, even knowledge about investment.
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Look for what to invest, not what to eat

Eating versus investing is a very interesting and thought provoking topic.In our world, there exists a large population that toils day and night merely to feed enough food to their families. For them the concept of investment seems like an unattainable luxury. It is true that life survival is the foremost priority for all living creatures including humans. However, as human being, we should make conscious efforts to make savings out of whatever we earn, and invest it wisely to foster a hope for prosperous future for our families.









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July 15, 2023, 04:29:07 PM
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I agree with you that investing in BTC is a wise decision for the future. I think some people are too short-sighted and desperate to see the long-term benefits of holding their accounts and coins. I admire those who started from humble beginnings and worked hard to achieve success in this platform.

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Investment is good, I right time and good investment can totally change our life but we cannot ignore our health as well. Everyone knows that heath is wealth. Without good heath achievement become useless. We should think about our health first before talking about investment and achievements. Health is the biggest wealth for a human being in his/her entire lifetime. One can survive without excess money but can't survive without good health. We can cure it when needed with the help of money.
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Bitcoin is an investment asset that has been proven to be able to answer many people's doubts.

Basic needs are indeed the main choice for anyone, but not all of us are in the same category of people regarding financial capabilities.
It's not wrong to take the opportunity to set aside whatever remaining money to put in the Bitcoin investment basket but don't expect returns in a short time.
If you compare bitcoin to other assets, bitcoin is still very young, and its past price increases do not suggest that it will remain so in the future. That's why bitcoin is still considered a riskier asset than other assets, history can't prove and guarantee anything for the future.
In terms of risk, I admit that Bitcoin is a riskier asset compared to other assets. During its journey from when it first appeared until now, Bitcoin has been able to answer all the doubts of many people. It is in this context that I see Bitcoin as the best investment asset compared to other assets.

There is nothing wrong with using excess money to invest in bitcoin, but it should be considered carefully once we have met our personal needs and already have some savings. An investment can't be more important than savings because no investment can guarantee a 100% return, even if it's bitcoin.
I think we really understand what is the first thing that should be prioritized in this life.
Investing is just another instrument to remember the future.
Crypto investment, Bitcoin is the solution. Investments outside of crypto can be gold, land and other assets.

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July 16, 2023, 03:32:22 PM
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Bitcoin is an investment asset that has been proven to be able to answer many people's doubts.

Basic needs are indeed the main choice for anyone, but not all of us are in the same category of people regarding financial capabilities.
It's not wrong to take the opportunity to set aside whatever remaining money to put in the Bitcoin investment basket but don't expect returns in a short time.
If you compare bitcoin to other assets, bitcoin is still very young, and its past price increases do not suggest that it will remain so in the future. That's why bitcoin is still considered a riskier asset than other assets, history can't prove and guarantee anything for the future.
In terms of risk, I admit that Bitcoin is a riskier asset compared to other assets. During its journey from when it first appeared until now, Bitcoin has been able to answer all the doubts of many people. It is in this context that I see Bitcoin as the best investment asset compared to other assets.

How would you determine bitcoin as the best asset? For me, bitcoin is just the most profitable investment, but high returns always come with high risks. We are all investing in bitcoin simply because we want high returns and want to get rich quickly, so we are willing to take risks to achieve our goals. So it would be a bit biased to say that bitcoin is the best investment asset while it has the highest risk.

There is nothing wrong with using excess money to invest in bitcoin, but it should be considered carefully once we have met our personal needs and already have some savings. An investment can't be more important than savings because no investment can guarantee a 100% return, even if it's bitcoin.
I think we really understand what is the first thing that should be prioritized in this life.
Investing is just another instrument to remember the future.
Crypto investment, Bitcoin is the solution. Investments outside of crypto can be gold, land and other assets.

Bitcoin is an investment solution for many who do not have too much capital to invest in other things but always want to become rich with that capital, myself included. I believe that if someone who has a lot of money and has become rich won't prioritize investing in bitcoin like we do, they won't put all their wealth into bitcoin like we do.

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July 16, 2023, 03:46:34 PM
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There is a need for both investment and consumption so after meeting the basic needs it is better to invest a little for your future. It is true that there are risks involved in investing but choosing the right currency to invest in is less risky. There is nothing to eat here, if you invest less, it will gradually increase. You may get your salary at the end of the month and from this money you spend money in various sectors to run your daily life. If you set aside some portion of your salary, this is your savings. Rather than investing in cash, investing in currencies like bitcoin and holding them will yield better results.

I think what @Uruhara said is not wrong with leaving and placing a few percent of our main income for investment, especially in BTC, I totally agree. But maybe in the context of all the basic needs a person has been fulfilled monthly. However, if you have a low salary, for example as you mentioned, don't increase your debt to invest, especially in Crpto. I think, It's wise that you can live it and don't speculate too high if it's not yet the time. there is always an opportunity if investing especially in the crypto space now.

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Eating versus investing is a very interesting and thought provoking topic.In our world, there exists a large population that toils day and night merely to feed enough food to their families. For them the concept of investment seems like an unattainable luxury. It is true that life survival is the foremost priority for all living creatures including humans. However, as human being, we should make conscious efforts to make savings out of whatever we earn, and invest it wisely to foster a hope for prosperous future for our families.
When you are hungry, you will not be able to think of anything else, and money and investments will be secondary. But there are also those who make good money but at the same time spend a lot on food and don't worry about saving and thinking about some kind of investment. All people are different, there are those for whom this is not at all important and such people live a moderate life, there is nothing wrong with that, everyone cannot be investors, especially not everyone will be a successful investor.
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There is a lot of difference between a normal person and an intelligent person. A common man's thoughts are always common they are earning now and how they are going to live now but smart people think about the present as well as how their situation may be in the future and act accordingly. That is, an intelligent person plans from his present, how he will deal with bad times in the future, or what to do to ensure a good position of the family in the future, in addition to doing well with his family at present. Intelligent people place a lot of importance on saving and investing. They consider savings as a companion of danger and investment as one of the means of future income. But a common man is indifferent in this respect. At least right now I should focus on investing rather than focusing on how well I play or how well I must eat.

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An empty stomach is not something you want to mess with, I will only advise you to put yourself in the shoes of those that are hungry, you will understand after then, it's easier to point finger when you are not in the same certain position.

If you have nothing, the first thing to be fed before anything else is your stomach, that's when you will have time to put your brain at work, reason and think deeply, an empty stomach can't pull this stunt, it won't work.

It's like getting your hands on 1,000$ for the first time in your life and you decide to go and use that to buy land, when hunger sets on you, no one will teach you to sell that land and use that 1000$ to establish something that brings in money first before anything else.

You have to get to a certain place or level in life before you start looking at what to invest your money on, can you feed yourself very well around the clock? Can you take yourself to the hospital when you are sick? And pay your hospital bill? All these are important first and when money keeps flowing in then you can start thinking of buying assets and lands.

It's a shame that many people are still unwise in this today's cruel and harsh world that we are living in, many want to invest and fo things but they are doing it wrong.

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July 17, 2023, 10:42:20 AM
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Eating versus investing is a very interesting and thought provoking topic.In our world, there exists a large population that toils day and night merely to feed enough food to their families. For them the concept of investment seems like an unattainable luxury. It is true that life survival is the foremost priority for all living creatures including humans. However, as human being, we should make conscious efforts to make savings out of whatever we earn, and invest it wisely to foster a hope for prosperous future for our families.
When you are hungry, you will not be able to think of anything else, and money and investments will be secondary. But there are also those who make good money but at the same time spend a lot on food and don't worry about saving and thinking about some kind of investment. All people are different, there are those for whom this is not at all important and such people live a moderate life, there is nothing wrong with that, everyone cannot be investors, especially not everyone will be a successful investor.

That is why others tend to invest when they are comfortable, like when they are not budgeting their money on food, because that is really the reason why you are earning money to have food on the table. If they have spare money, that is where they start investing. You are right, not everyone is successful in investment, but that doesn't mean that you will stop there now. Again, again you will need to fail multiple times before you'll be successful. Just don't surrender and continue to take calculated risks.
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