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July 05, 2023, 02:31:53 PM
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that's easy to say when u r well fed.

if i have to choose betwixt investing &/ having a meal right now..

i'd pick to eat as well.. ngl.

it is only after ur daily needs r met that u think of investing..

or saving for the future.
Exactly mate
Most times I see people who get the wrong concept of savings and investment and firstly we need to eat to stay alive to be able to save and invest.
People save some times because of thread and we just save for a future  that isn't guaranteed, anything can happen tomorrow,  we can die, we might be sick or not really healthy to enjoy our savings  and investments and the rest of them. I'm a fan of investment and savings bjt I think having investments  wouldn't be an easy  one for someone whonks struggling  to put  food on his table(living from hand to mouth).
I agree with you that this thread is for those who aren't hungry, I mean really hungry.

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July 05, 2023, 02:46:58 PM
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Need to do a thorough survey before you draw conclusions. What percentage of account sales cases occur on the forum, what percentage of accounts are still active and what percentage of accounts are dead (inactive). Accounts can be interpreted as assets, cases of selling assets often occur outside the forum such as selling houses, land and company shares. The majority of asset sales occur due to urgent economic needs due to needing medical expenses or other things.

The rules in the forum are clear.
18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

People have different perceptions of selling their assets, partly because there are no other options to support the economy.

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July 05, 2023, 06:57:19 PM
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I understand what you're saying ..........but you also have to be objective in situations like this, i'm not the one to judge those people who have the potential to earn more than they think and still prefer the  easy and sell what  they have managed to earn by for having money in the moment............one would have to be in the situation they are in to know why they act in this way........is it due to immediate necessity? Or maybe they are not so aware of good money management?

Regardless of the case, and answering your question

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Is it good to invest or is it good to keep looking for something to eat?

........any businessman knows that an investment at the right time brings juicy rewards, it is only having a solid strategy and carrying out a good exhaustive study in which the investment going to be made, otherwise it occurs when the assets well and they are spent immediately instead of looking for how to increase them stagnation would occur where what comes in does not work, falling into constant frustration for the simple fact of not taking risks when the possibilities existed, personally, is better to dare and live a calmer life in the long,  run than spend my days stressed.
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July 05, 2023, 07:14:40 PM
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you can not invest on an empty stomach, it takes only a physically and mentally stabled person to even as much as think towards the line of  investment.

I think you should rather suggest that while eating, one should also consider investing.
Survival instincts, for example eating and drinking, fighting or fleeing when faced with threats such as blows, fires, animal attacks. If this instinct is not fulfilled, someone will die. In fact, this is also an investment. Investment is not always about finances but also about health in the future so you don't get sick easily. Because if you are sick, the expenses will be expensive and the assets you have will be of no use.

The very first thing that must be done is investing for the necessities of life first so that you have a healthy mind, a healthy body so that you make wise decisions in any case, including making decisions when investing in bitcoin.
That's obviously the most important thing, why do we basically work for initially? We work to get money so that we can eat and drink and live, you can't work to get wealth when you are hungry, or you can't think of making investments when you know that the money you have is only enough to provide for your family, investments can only be done once all these things are done and you still have got something left, that's when you can think of it.

If you are spending money on things that are not necessary, you are doing the wrong thing for sure, but if you are spending your money on food, shelter, drinks, and all other basic amenities that you and your family needs, you are doing the right thing with the money you have.

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July 05, 2023, 07:50:38 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future.
No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
While investing in projects that can provide long term financial security is important, it is also important to consider that not everyone is on same ship in terms of circumstances and opportunities. Individual may be facing critical moments that need immediate financial solutions to meet their basic needs such as putting food on their table, health concerns, etc.
Financial literacy is important, but it is also important to approach this with empathy and understanding as everyone circumstances are different and as such, there are individuals whose basic needs precedes anything else.
It is a mistake to think that by adopting a policy of austerity in the basics of life, we will be successful investors.  Healthy minds cannot think with an empty stomach. 
I know people who refused to spend money to take care of their health, fearing that their investments would decrease, thus decreasing their returns, and some of them lost their lives in the foolishness of stubbornness.  The most important investment goal is to secure a better tomorrow, and this is when we have secured our present.  This is where the well-known rule comes from ; "Don't invest in what you fear losing."
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July 05, 2023, 11:53:36 PM
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that's easy to say when u r well fed.
People must have things to eat to survive before they can do other things including investment.
Yep and yep.

I've seen a few threads around here dealing with food, and I don't think OP is seeing things from a lot of people's perspective--especially when inflation is so high that every time I go food shopping, prices have increased.  Maybe just a little each time, but the overall effect since the beginning of the COVID epidemic is very noticeable. 

Besides, if you can save money by decreasing the amount you spend on food and other necessities, the more you'll have to invest.  Makes sense, right?  So I'm all for the threads in Economics and elsewhere dealing with penny-pinching topics.  Not everyone here is rich, you know.
It's true that not all forum users here are rich. In fact, I see that maybe more are struggling to improve their standard of living, namely in financial terms. In fact, in one of the threads that I made (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458117.msg62482756#msg62482756), I read some replies that quite touched me, namely that it seems that these users have gone through a lot of difficult lives. and they are trying to get up and some have managed to get up. So actually when it comes to investing, actually not everyone can do it. especially if they are in conditions that require them to continue to spend the money they earn just to buy food.

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July 05, 2023, 11:59:06 PM
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I don't know why some people in this platform are looking for what to eat at the moment, not know that they can invest in a potential projects that will put food on their table, and they will not lack what to eat and what to spend in future.
No way you will invest in BTC today and you will not have something good to eat because, investment is like a seed planted in a due season to expect something good in the future. Is it a good thing to invest or is good to continue looking for what to eat?
What do you think.
While investing in projects that can provide long term financial security is important, it is also important to consider that not everyone is on same ship in terms of circumstances and opportunities. Individual may be facing critical moments that need immediate financial solutions to meet their basic needs such as putting food on their table, health concerns, etc.
Financial literacy is important, but it is also important to approach this with empathy and understanding as everyone circumstances are different and as such, there are individuals whose basic needs precedes anything else.
It is a mistake to think that by adopting a policy of austerity in the basics of life, we will be successful investors.  Healthy minds cannot think with an empty stomach. 
I know people who refused to spend money to take care of their health, fearing that their investments would decrease, thus decreasing their returns, and some of them lost their lives in the foolishness of stubbornness.  The most important investment goal is to secure a better tomorrow, and this is when we have secured our present.  This is where the well-known rule comes from ; "Don't invest in what you fear losing."
Take the balance approach and you shouldnt really be just focusing solely on one  side because if the time comes that you are putting that much focus into one thing but forgetting the other specially on health?
For sure all of those money or earning that you had made out on extreme effort and  time spend would definitely take a toll into your health which it is something that we should really be looking into and dont make yourself that too confident when it comes to this because if you do then you would just basically not able to cherish out those profits you had made earlier if you are ill or having sickness and those would really be spent out on hospital bills.
This is why you should really be that having that proper thinking on where you should really be focusing but in overall having that balance is always recommended. Dont mind on what others been saying because it would really be just common sense that health is also wealth, its just that right that we should do our best to make our income source even more bigger but with having those sacrifices on extreme extent then it would
be an another story,.

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Investment is good but food is more important, health is wealth, health is life, so first take care of yourself, your health before, investment, Investing is a wonderful idea, but you should only do it after you have taken care of your necessities.Food is one of our basic necessities in life so we buy food first before investing, I mean yes investment is good but if you don't eat your gonna get sick and die so
let keep investment aside, first feed our selves before investing, investing in your future is really matter but if you are dead, the dead don't have a future.Don't invest what you can not afford to lose.

I agree with your statement that personal health and well-being is the first step before starting the investment journey. A healthy body and mind will also be healthy. Well, maybe this is useful too, I think. Regardless of the argument you conveyed above, a balanced approach is necessary for us to juxtapose food, health and financial needs simultaneously.

Broadly speaking, investing is a step that contributes more or less to achieving a balance between the two. For investment options/options, the minimum requirements must be in accordance with each person's risk tolerance and financial ability, of course, which in the end can help achieve an optimal balance for the future of our family and children in the future.

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July 07, 2023, 05:40:18 PM
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I agree with your statement that personal health and well-being is the first step before starting the investment journey. A healthy body and mind will also be healthy. Well, maybe this is useful too, I think. Regardless of the argument you conveyed above, a balanced approach is necessary for us to juxtapose food, health and financial needs simultaneously.
A healthy mind does exist in a healthy body, which is why overall body health is always needed before doing any work in this world. Investment is part of human work and it is done on the basis of the awareness of each individual so that things such as health, food and finances as a whole have to be considered before doing a job like investing.

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Broadly speaking, investing is a step that contributes more or less to achieving a balance between the two. For investment options/options, the minimum requirements must be in accordance with each person's risk tolerance and financial ability, of course, which in the end can help achieve an optimal balance for the future of our family and children in the future.
It's just an attempt to find income so we can get a balance in life if it can be profitable enough with the investment we make. Because there are also investments that are not profitable even though those who make them hope to benefit, so investment choices should not be arbitrary if the goal is for the long term and balance in our lives.

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July 07, 2023, 07:12:32 PM
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I agree with your statement that personal health and well-being is the first step before starting the investment journey. A healthy body and mind will also be healthy. Well, maybe this is useful too, I think. Regardless of the argument you conveyed above, a balanced approach is necessary for us to juxtapose food, health and financial needs simultaneously.
A healthy mind does exist in a healthy body, which is why overall body health is always needed before doing any work in this world. Investment is part of human work and it is done on the basis of the awareness of each individual so that things such as health, food and finances as a whole have to be considered before doing a job like investing.

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Broadly speaking, investing is a step that contributes more or less to achieving a balance between the two. For investment options/options, the minimum requirements must be in accordance with each person's risk tolerance and financial ability, of course, which in the end can help achieve an optimal balance for the future of our family and children in the future.
It's just an attempt to find income so we can get a balance in life if it can be profitable enough with the investment we make. Because there are also investments that are not profitable even though those who make them hope to benefit, so investment choices should not be arbitrary if the goal is for the long term and balance in our lives.

Not all types of investment are actually profitable or could even assure us that we can get out of poverty through it. We aren't in the position of those who are starving and selling their assets because as humans, our first reaction when we're starving is to look for food and not for investment.
We usually do that to survive. Investment is necessary yet we can still survive without it though it is undeniable that we can have the financial freedom that we want if we have pick the right investment.
We aren't in the shoes of those who are trying to survive but I'm sure that if they're able, they will also focus on investing it's just that we all have different fates.
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July 07, 2023, 07:45:16 PM
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that's easy to say when u r well fed.

if i have to choose betwixt investing &/ having a meal right now..

i'd pick to eat as well.. ngl.

it is only after ur daily needs r met that u think of investing..

or saving for the future.
Exactly mate
Most times I see people who get the wrong concept of savings and investment and firstly we need to eat to stay alive to be able to save and invest.
People save some times because of thread and we just save for a future  that isn't guaranteed, anything can happen tomorrow,  we can die, we might be sick or not really healthy to enjoy our savings  and investments and the rest of them. I'm a fan of investment and savings bjt I think having investments  wouldn't be an easy  one for someone whonks struggling  to put  food on his table(living from hand to mouth).
I agree with you that this thread is for those who aren't hungry, I mean really hungry.
I think the caption that op used is wrong because it is very confusing to me and nit really passing the kind of massage that I expected. We need to invest and not always thinking about food or what to eat to feed our belly.. investment is one of the ways we can become comfortable without depending on others for what to eat or drink. If we have the fund to invest in Bitcoin, it will be better we invest now and watch how the market will play out. Saving is not easy that is why we need to be disciplined for us to make savings so we can use it to invest in any of the  market to earn more money.









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Not all types of investment are actually profitable or could even assure us that we can get out of poverty through it. We aren't in the position of those who are starving and selling their assets because as humans, our first reaction when we're starving is to look for food and not for investment.
We usually do that to survive. Investment is necessary yet we can still survive without it though it is undeniable that we can have the financial freedom that we want if we have pick the right investment.
We aren't in the shoes of those who are trying to survive but I'm sure that if they're able, they will also focus on investing it's just that we all have different fates.
When the situation is urgent, investment needs can be optional because financial management must prioritize main needs compared to any type of investment, if you have an emergency such as hunger, then there is an indication that the allocation of funds for primary needs is critical, so you have to sell investments or divert savings funds for basic funding needs. We can still get investment back if the condition of basic needs is fulfilled even though we have to work hard to return the investment from new job income.

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July 07, 2023, 09:00:20 PM
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you can not invest on an empty stomach, it takes only a physically and mentally stabled person to even as much as think towards the line of  investment.

I think you should rather suggest that while eating, one should also consider investing.
Survival instincts, for example eating and drinking, fighting or fleeing when faced with threats such as blows, fires, animal attacks. If this instinct is not fulfilled, someone will die. In fact, this is also an investment. Investment is not always about finances but also about health in the future so you don't get sick easily. Because if you are sick, the expenses will be expensive and the assets you have will be of no use.

The very first thing that must be done is investing for the necessities of life first so that you have a healthy mind, a healthy body so that you make wise decisions in any case, including making decisions when investing in bitcoin.
lol, You have to eat, it's obvious, right?

... well... there may be a lot of instinct but if there is no money it will not help much, we must not confuse things, that instinct helps us in certain situations, they are generally very punctual, on the other hand bitcoin is not the only thing that exists to invest, in the same way having a signature campaign to generate main income, is not the best, even in countries where "supposedly" with a signature campaign you can pay bills.


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July 07, 2023, 10:22:24 PM
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We don't know what'll be the situation of us tomorrow. Food is something that is essential for our living, which means for what we earn? The very first thing is to survive and for the same food is a major thing. I've seen lot of people who had money little by little without eating good. End of the day, they spend a huge amount on medical bills. For this it is always good to understand when to eat and what to eat. Same time we should also know the limits on spending on food and where to spend, because for the same food we used to different amounts depending on the location and the comfort.
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We don't know what'll be the situation of us tomorrow. Food is something that is essential for our living, which means for what we earn? The very first thing is to survive and for the same food is a major thing. I've seen lot of people who had money little by little without eating good. End of the day, they spend a huge amount on medical bills. For this it is always good to understand when to eat and what to eat. Same time we should also know the limits on spending on food and where to spend, because for the same food we used to different amounts depending on the location and the comfort.
Correct. Food is basically a basic need that must be met at the earliest. because it concerns our life and health. even we will not be able to work optimally if we do not eat enough. and we have to maintain a healthy diet so that our bodies are always healthy and can generate more money that we can save and invest. Savings and investments can only be done if our basic needs have been met. that is, we must already have enough food stocks and so that we feel calm. so that when we make money again. then we save it to save and invest.

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July 08, 2023, 01:42:53 AM
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People must have things to eat to survive before they can do other things including investment.

You have made a valid observation regarding survival of life which is a natural instinct of human, and investment comes later. There is a significant portion of the world who face challenges on daily basis to provide food, shelter and healthcare for their families, and leaving little room for luxury of investment.

Indeed, financial security is crucial, and one should strike balance between securing one's basic needs and planning for the future. For those who have sufficient resources for investment, should consider investment in Bitcoin which is an emerging technology and can potentially reward substantial rewards in the long term.









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July 08, 2023, 02:55:08 AM
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We don't know what'll be the situation of us tomorrow. Food is something that is essential for our living, which means for what we earn? The very first thing is to survive and for the same food is a major thing. I've seen lot of people who had money little by little without eating good. End of the day, they spend a huge amount on medical bills. For this it is always good to understand when to eat and what to eat. Same time we should also know the limits on spending on food and where to spend, because for the same food we used to different amounts depending on the location and the comfort.
Correct. Food is basically a basic need that must be met at the earliest. because it concerns our life and health. even we will not be able to work optimally if we do not eat enough. and we have to maintain a healthy diet so that our bodies are always healthy and can generate more money that we can save and invest. Savings and investments can only be done if our basic needs have been met. that is, we must already have enough food stocks and so that we feel calm. so that when we make money again. then we save it to save and invest.
True, however, they are all interrelated and complement each other,
so it will be very influential if we do not meet food needs first,
to be able to work optimally, of course it requires energy and we get this energy from nutritious food.



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We don't know what'll be the situation of us tomorrow. Food is something that is essential for our living, which means for what we earn? The very first thing is to survive and for the same food is a major thing. I've seen lot of people who had money little by little without eating good. End of the day, they spend a huge amount on medical bills. For this it is always good to understand when to eat and what to eat. Same time we should also know the limits on spending on food and where to spend, because for the same food we used to different amounts depending on the location and the comfort.
Correct. Food is basically a basic need that must be met at the earliest. because it concerns our life and health. even we will not be able to work optimally if we do not eat enough. and we have to maintain a healthy diet so that our bodies are always healthy and can generate more money that we can save and invest. Savings and investments can only be done if our basic needs have been met. that is, we must already have enough food stocks and so that we feel calm. so that when we make money again. then we save it to save and invest.
True, however, they are all interrelated and complement each other,
so it will be very influential if we do not meet food needs first,
to be able to work optimally, of course it requires energy and we get this energy from nutritious food.
especially for those who work by relying on their minds, of course nutritional intake must be considered, lest our brains be forced but nutritional intake neglected, on the other hand of course brain refreshment is also very much needed to cope with possible stress levels. in eating does not mean to be excessive, but we must be able to maintain the balance of nutrients needed by the body, of course a healthy diet is needed, to maintain physical and spiritual fitness

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We don't know what'll be the situation of us tomorrow. Food is something that is essential for our living, which means for what we earn? The very first thing is to survive and for the same food is a major thing. I've seen lot of people who had money little by little without eating good. End of the day, they spend a huge amount on medical bills. For this it is always good to understand when to eat and what to eat. Same time we should also know the limits on spending on food and where to spend, because for the same food we used to different amounts depending on the location and the comfort.
Food is unquestionably the foundation of our existence, just as unexpected as tomorrow's events. Unfortunately, its a sad irony of life that people frequently sacrifice good nutrition in their unrelenting search for monetary gain, only to have their hard-earned money drained by medical expenses. Isnt that a circumstance that makes you think?

"Eat to live, don't live to eat" is a proverb that I firmly believe in. Its essential to comprehend our bodies' needs and modify our eating behaviours accordingly. I also support conscious food spending, which involves choosing nutrient-dense foods rather than restricting oneself.

Food prices undoubtedly vary depending on location and comfort, but wouldnt it be better to spend money on wholesome food that keeps us healthy rather than sacrificing nutrition? In the end, good health is wealth!

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July 08, 2023, 09:04:57 AM
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We don't know what'll be the situation of us tomorrow. Food is something that is essential for our living, which means for what we earn? The very first thing is to survive and for the same food is a major thing. I've seen lot of people who had money little by little without eating good. End of the day, they spend a huge amount on medical bills. For this it is always good to understand when to eat and what to eat. Same time we should also know the limits on spending on food and where to spend, because for the same food we used to different amounts depending on the location and the comfort.
Correct. Food is basically a basic need that must be met at the earliest. because it concerns our life and health. even we will not be able to work optimally if we do not eat enough. and we have to maintain a healthy diet so that our bodies are always healthy and can generate more money that we can save and invest. Savings and investments can only be done if our basic needs have been met. that is, we must already have enough food stocks and so that we feel calm. so that when we make money again. then we save it to save and invest.
True, however, they are all interrelated and complement each other,
so it will be very influential if we do not meet food needs first,
to be able to work optimally, of course it requires energy and we get this energy from nutritious food.
Well everything is related and Food is the most priority. But don't buy too much food. but buy enough to meet our body's balanced nutrition. And actually the money to meet the need to eat is not too big. Compared to the money we spend for other purposes such as internet bills and so on. everything must be adjusted to the right portion so that you can still leave money to save and invest.

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