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April 19, 2023, 10:41:08 PM
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You didn't notice - how suddenly, massively, a whole "family of articles" appeared in our forum, on the following topics:
- everyone refuses the dollar
- everything changes from the dollar to other currencies
- everyone changes the dollar to gold
- everyone... does something... to collect the dollar...
And?
Over the past 2-3 weeks, these articles appeared systematically, all over the world, and in all yellow mass media, as well as on forums with freedom of expression of one's opinion (like this). They were in the TOP articles on our forum for the last 2 weeks... And suddenly... suddenly... All these articles froze! The authors stopped repeating them, the mass media - to replicate, the apologists of this faeces - pretended that they are not supporters of this idea at all! Question - what is this event for? Is the dollar defeated? Or the paid votes no longer received funding and did not prove their effectiveness in the process of propaganda!? Smiley

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April 19, 2023, 11:19:34 PM
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You didn't notice - how suddenly, massively, a whole "family of articles" appeared in our forum, on the following topics:
- everyone refuses the dollar
- everything changes from the dollar to other currencies
- everyone changes the dollar to gold
- everyone... does something... to collect the dollar...
And?
Over the past 2-3 weeks, these articles appeared systematically, all over the world, and in all yellow mass media, as well as on forums with freedom of expression of one's opinion (like this). They were in the TOP articles on our forum for the last 2 weeks... And suddenly... suddenly... All these articles froze! The authors stopped repeating them, the mass media - to replicate, the apologists of this faeces - pretended that they are not supporters of this idea at all! Question - what is this event for? Is the dollar defeated? Or the paid votes no longer received funding and did not prove their effectiveness in the process of propaganda!? Smiley

In most cases, the news on the forum is a reflection of what happens outside the forum. The trending news always finds its way into the forum. The news of the ditching of the dollar was propelled by the rumor that the BRICS nations are considering substituting the dollar with a common currency or the Chinese Yaun. Although it might not be out of place to assume that some anti-dollar groups used the opportunity to spread or promote their negative stance against the dollar. And we should not also think that the news about the predictions of the fall of the dollar has come to an end because it will receive more coverage after the 22-24 August 2023 BRICS Summit in South Africa. Nobody knows what that meeting will bring.

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April 19, 2023, 11:32:02 PM
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The topics on the forum are related to events in the world and the extent of the world's interaction with them. And when these topics are active, it does not mean that the topic is updated with new data. It may be spam pages of some optimistic speculation.
In fact, all of these topics build expectations on immediate events and not on an in-depth analysis, especially since the numbers say the exact opposite of their claims. Most of the world's economies cannot abandon the dollar, or it must be excluded from the global market. Originally, it is not in its interest to do so, apart from the troubles that will be caused by hostility to America, the world's largest economy.
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April 19, 2023, 11:47:29 PM
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It's all because of the BRICS. Yeah, it was like everywhere, every article being made says that dollars is about to collapse and Chinese Yuan is about to emerge because of this agreement and alliances. But it's not going to come overnight and there's probably going to take some few years before we finally get to see the actuality of this agreement and news.

Question - what is this event for? Is the dollar defeated? Or the paid votes no longer received funding and did not prove their effectiveness in the process of propaganda!? Smiley
Not yet or will it be? We don't know. All of these that have come into the surface are just opinionated articles and speculations just as what we see usually in tabloids and editorials. Whether they're paid or not, it's always what's the trend that's being made into the topics and headlines.

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April 20, 2023, 01:55:50 AM
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You didn't notice - how suddenly, massively, a whole "family of articles" appeared in our forum, on the following topics:
- everyone refuses the dollar
- everything changes from the dollar to other currencies
- everyone changes the dollar to gold
- everyone... does something... to collect the dollar...
And?
Over the past 2-3 weeks, these articles appeared systematically, all over the world, and in all yellow mass media, as well as on forums with freedom of expression of one's opinion (like this). They were in the TOP articles on our forum for the last 2 weeks... And suddenly... suddenly... All these articles froze! The authors stopped repeating them, the mass media - to replicate, the apologists of this faeces - pretended that they are not supporters of this idea at all! Question - what is this event for? Is the dollar defeated? Or the paid votes no longer received funding and did not prove their effectiveness in the process of propaganda!? Smiley
This news does not mean that the dollar has been defeated, but that there are several countries that have changed their currency dependence from the dollar to another currency, namely the yuan.
and not all people and countries have switched from the dollar, only a few countries have joined to choose the yuan currency, and the country is
• Russia
• Brazilian
• India
• Kazakhstan
• Pakistan
• Laos

With big news like that, surely it will spread faster in all media, especially when it relates to the United States, China, Russia, and even India. Surely this news will make a hot conversation in every country.
Yesterday afternoon I was still watching the news about this on TV, meaning this news is still hotly discussed.

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April 20, 2023, 02:56:35 AM
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In most cases, the news on the forum is a reflection of what happens outside the forum. The trending news always finds its way into the forum. The news of the ditching of the dollar was propelled by the rumor that the BRICS nations are considering substituting the dollar with a common currency or the Chinese Yaun. Although it might not be out of place to assume that some anti-dollar groups used the opportunity to spread or promote their negative stance against the dollar.

Yes, it is the case that the possibility of an alternative to the dollar is more real than ever since the Bretton Woods agreements. I don't think the open threads are part of a conspiracy, as I think the OP points out, they simply reflect reality, and I think it's not going to happen overnight but it is going to happen. Gradually we are going to see payments that are made in dollars today being replaced by payments in other currencies, and this is going to negatively affect the US, which has been living for decades by exporting inflation to other countries that buy the dollars it prints.

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April 20, 2023, 03:47:53 AM
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In most cases, the news on the forum is a reflection of what happens outside the forum. The trending news always finds its way into the forum. The news of the ditching of the dollar was propelled by the rumor that the BRICS nations are considering substituting the dollar with a common currency or the Chinese Yaun. Although it might not be out of place to assume that some anti-dollar groups used the opportunity to spread or promote their negative stance against the dollar.

Yes, it is the case that the possibility of an alternative to the dollar is more real than ever since the Bretton Woods agreements. I don't think the open threads are part of a conspiracy, as I think the OP points out, they simply reflect reality, and I think it's not going to happen overnight but it is going to happen. Gradually we are going to see payments that are made in dollars today being replaced by payments in other currencies, and this is going to negatively affect the US, which has been living for decades by exporting inflation to other countries that buy the dollars it prints.

I really don't like that the Chinese yuan will replace the USD because China is not a better country than the US either. But it is only a matter of time before the USD is eclipsed and replaced by another currency. It may not happen overnight, but it will certainly happen in the future.

The US has ruled the world long enough, and they have abused their power to the extreme. Many countries have gradually realized that, and it is understandable that they are anti-American. Currency wars won't be good for the world economy, and we'll be hit hard when it happens, but it's the law and the cycle of the world. Like how the United States overtook Britain in 1920 to rule the world.

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April 20, 2023, 04:35:16 AM
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... And suddenly... suddenly... All these articles froze! `````
maybe it's just your feelings bro. Don't be insecure too much,  Smiley as we know, the world is not okay after covid-19 and Ukraine war, so that case everything topics to economics and money will be in no.1 because covid and the war affect still we can feel until today. If I were you and people with the same thing with you, I will going to holiday, go to mountain and hiking to refresh my brain from the mind conflict.

When talking about fiat, dollar and etc, we always get the same result because of imperfections the fiat is happening for a long time ago, and no one can handle it even the central bank. this is like a cancer.

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April 20, 2023, 04:41:55 AM
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what is this event for? Is the dollar defeated? Or the paid votes no longer received funding and did not prove their effectiveness in the process of propaganda!? Smiley
Conspiracy theory lovers, do you think that this forum is influential so that there are paid votes to influence the dollar?

All there is to it is that raising interest rates harms many economies, and many citizens begin to know its negative effects, and therefore they search for alternatives to the dollar and put forward discussions. Therefore, the closer a meeting of the Federal Reserve and the higher the leader’s prices, the more these discussions will increase and will decrease if the interest is reduced or in the period between each two meetings. for the federal.

Generally, this decision is taken by countries, but you as an individual must diversify your investment portfolio.

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April 20, 2023, 09:11:57 AM
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You didn't notice - how suddenly, massively, a whole "family of articles" appeared in our forum, on the following topics:
- everyone refuses the dollar
- everything changes from the dollar to other currencies
- everyone changes the dollar to gold
- everyone... does something... to collect the dollar...
And?
Over the past 2-3 weeks, these articles appeared systematically, all over the world, and in all yellow mass media, as well as on forums with freedom of expression of one's opinion (like this). They were in the TOP articles on our forum for the last 2 weeks... And suddenly... suddenly... All these articles froze! The authors stopped repeating them, the mass media - to replicate, the apologists of this faeces - pretended that they are not supporters of this idea at all! Question - what is this event for? Is the dollar defeated? Or the paid votes no longer received funding and did not prove their effectiveness in the process of propaganda!? Smiley

In most cases, the news on the forum is a reflection of what happens outside the forum. The trending news always finds its way into the forum. The news of the ditching of the dollar was propelled by the rumor that the BRICS nations are considering substituting the dollar with a common currency or the Chinese Yaun. Although it might not be out of place to assume that some anti-dollar groups used the opportunity to spread or promote their negative stance against the dollar. And we should not also think that the news about the predictions of the fall of the dollar has come to an end because it will receive more coverage after the 22-24 August 2023 BRICS Summit in South Africa. Nobody knows what that meeting will bring.

The fact that the forum interacts with the outside world and reacts to what is happening - I agree, this is how it should be, you can't live in an information vacuum Smiley
I'm talking about a friend - these "news" that I was talking about appeared SUDDENLY! Although the process launched by China - to fool trusting countries and transfer them to the yuan - was launched a long time ago. And here, as per the click of the tumdler (look at the forum and check for yourself) - more than a dozen articles appear, with different titles but one and the same idea. And what is no less surprising - they stop being actively supported by authors - exactly the same, all together and at the same time Smiley

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I think that it's not a click, but that the one who creates such topics always uses the news aggregator. Everything related to the economy is migrated here by different authors, slightly diversifying the content and changing sources.
You are right that some flashy topics appear at the same time, but this is more what is at the top of the news background.
I believe that discussing paid activists here is too far-fetched. Rather, you are wishful thinking.
Note today's news about monkeys and China. Smiley

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In most cases, the news on the forum is a reflection of what happens outside the forum. The trending news always finds its way into the forum. The news of the ditching of the dollar was propelled by the rumor that the BRICS nations are considering substituting the dollar with a common currency or the Chinese Yaun. Although it might not be out of place to assume that some anti-dollar groups used the opportunity to spread or promote their negative stance against the dollar.

Yes, it is the case that the possibility of an alternative to the dollar is more real than ever since the Bretton Woods agreements. I don't think the open threads are part of a conspiracy, as I think the OP points out, they simply reflect reality, and I think it's not going to happen overnight but it is going to happen. Gradually we are going to see payments that are made in dollars today being replaced by payments in other currencies, and this is going to negatively affect the US, which has been living for decades by exporting inflation to other countries that buy the dollars it prints.


What do you call an alternative? YUAN? Are you seriously ? Do you really not understand why China is doing this? More precisely, why does he manipulate not very smart "friends"? For the fight against the dollar? On which does China's economy and industry depend? Are you seriously ??  Grin
I’ll tell you: for another half a year, or maybe more, when the screeching “BRICS is abandoning the dollar and switching to local currencies” and “More countries are joining the BRICS” just started to rise actively, I then wrote - there will be no local currencies. There will be YUAN!!! And there will be no dollar in the gold reserves of other countries! This is China's goal. The export of inflation will concentrate the movement of the dollar on itself as much as possible. And this is done precisely through the "unification of the countries" of the BRICS. All will trade within the BRICS only for RMB. No one will be able to sell their products to the Western world for hard currency. And China, having bought it for its yuan, will sell it to the West for DOLLARS, which it will keep for itself, in order to buy technology, equipment and everything that allows China to be the "second economy in the world" in the West.

I hope now you will begin to understand what this whole "China game with idiot friends" is all about? Smiley

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someone's habit of making topics that are trending outside the forum will be brought to the forum as well, this happens because these issues are being widely discussed such as COVID-19, the Russia-Ukraine war, and the rejection of the USD rejection. so often such topics become the dominant topics of discussion in forum a because of their relevance to the current situation and their impact on everyday life.

However, in bringing such topics to forums it is sometimes important to ensure that the information shared is accurate and valid, and that the discussion proceeds in a way that is dignified and respectful of different views. This will help ensure that the discussion goes well and benefits all members involved in the discussion. I think it's normal for things like that to happen in forums about discussing topics that are being talked about outside the forum.

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I think that it's not a click, but that the one who creates such topics always uses the news aggregator. Everything related to the economy is migrated here by different authors, slightly diversifying the content and changing sources.
You are right that some flashy topics appear at the same time, but this is more what is at the top of the news background.
I believe that discussing paid activists here is too far-fetched. Rather, you are wishful thinking.
Note today's news about monkeys and China. Smiley

Yes, I agree, I did not quite correctly formulate the idea, many were hooked on the word "paid". It is not necessary to be paid, it is enough to be "the right breeding ground for certain thoughts." This is how society works, this is how manipulators work, this is how people who understand how to use other people work Smiley
But the real problem is that the "peddlers" of these thoughts do not want to think, and see only the tip of the iceberg, but do not see the main part. Who benefits from this and what are the real goals of the "project". But they will see it soon, but I'm afraid they just won't like the reality that will appear when the "wrapping film with the inscription" fight the dollar" falls off Smiley



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Over the past 2-3 weeks, these articles appeared systematically, all over the world, and in all yellow mass media, as well as on forums with freedom of expression of one's opinion (like this). They were in the TOP articles on our forum for the last 2 weeks... And suddenly... suddenly... All these articles froze! The authors stopped repeating them, the mass media - to replicate, the apologists of this faeces - pretended that they are not supporters of this idea at all! Question - what is this event for? Is the dollar defeated? Or the paid votes no longer received funding and did not prove their effectiveness in the process of propaganda!? Smiley

I simply believe that everything has its time to make an impact and be discussed. People tend to make humor and talk about what is going on at the time; it's a trend that may be coming to an end. It is not a question of being paid or not to propagate propaganda. The media is vast, and people say whatever they want in order to gain public attention.

The same thing happened on this forum because that was the topic of conversation on social media at the time. Now that everything has calmed down, we will see fewer articles regarding the US dollar. The truth is that most people simply follow trends and don't care what they're all about or the effect of what they’re engaging in, that’s just a typical being for you.

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I really don't like that the Chinese yuan will replace the USD because China is not a better country than the US either. But it is only a matter of time before the USD is eclipsed and replaced by another currency. It may not happen overnight, but it will certainly happen in the future.

It need not necessarily be the Yuan, and it need not necessarily be replaced by a single currency. Simply put, purchases of raw materials that are made in dollars could be made in the future in different currencies of the countries involved.

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As they say "There's none so blind as those who will not see.". The dedollarisation is still ongoing and there is enough discussion about it on this forum without needing a new topic being opened every day with every tiny news.

The most recent news is the United States Secretary of the Treasury Janet Yellen admitting that the world is dumping the dollar.
There are lots of signs of the weakening dollar too. From the inflation+recession going on in US that has led to mass firing of employees and increased unemployment and banking system falling apart to the economic hardship that has led to a significant increase in number of people who loot supermarkets across United States every day.

It would be spam to open a new topic every day to say for example yet another Walmart store was looted 2 days ago in Chicago by hungry Americans.

Besides if you were expecting dollar to dump down to zero overnight or disappear from the world, that was your mistake. Countries aren't dumping dollar overnight or even all at once. They reduce their dependence slowly. For example a country that was trading 100% in dollar is now trading 80% in dollar and 20% in other currencies and by the end of 2023 this percentage would reach 50-50 and next year to 20-80. And that process will continue to weaken US Dollar.

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The fact that the forum interacts with the outside world and reacts to what is happening - I agree, this is how it should be, you can't live in an information vacuum Smiley
I'm talking about a friend - these "news" that I was talking about appeared SUDDENLY! Although the process launched by China - to fool trusting countries and transfer them to the yuan - was launched a long time ago. And here, as per the click of the tumdler (look at the forum and check for yourself) - more than a dozen articles appear, with different titles but one and the same idea. And what is no less surprising - they stop being actively supported by authors - exactly the same, all together and at the same time Smiley

Are you saying that these topic comes from a single person, created by different accounts?  And now that the person had found another topic to discuss, the existing thread is abandoned?  It is not surprising especially when the thread had served its purpose or the author thinks that there is no need to continue with the discussion since he got what he wanted, the idea and thoughts of the forum.

Anyway, if you are insinuating about the possible conspiracy theory, these tactics had been done ever since.  Creating propaganda, releasing the idea to the masses to make naive people believe or inculcate an ideology to the minds of readers.  

Anyway, I do not think that the dollar supremacy will tumble overnight.  It will be a series of events and may take decades to a century to be replaced.  There should be a major shift of trust in major developing countries and there will be lots of conferences and conventions before arriving at a currency that can replace USD.  

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April 20, 2023, 02:51:53 PM
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I really don't like that the Chinese yuan will replace the USD because China is not a better country than the US either. But it is only a matter of time before the USD is eclipsed and replaced by another currency. It may not happen overnight, but it will certainly happen in the future.

It need not necessarily be the Yuan, and it need not necessarily be replaced by a single currency. Simply put, purchases of raw materials that are made in dollars could be made in the future in different currencies of the countries involved.
Economist knows what's going on with the US and this is not just a rumor, its happening but of course we can only see its effect once we get there, in time USD might not be the only top options for many trades. I'm just wondering if the situation gets worst with the USA, are they going to declare a war or they will continue to influence other countries to go against China and its allies. Well, no one knows but as far as I can see, USD is still the top choice, it might probably stay for another 5 years.
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April 20, 2023, 06:22:00 PM
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You didn't notice - how suddenly, massively, a whole "family of articles" appeared in our forum, on the following topics:
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I could have sworn I posted in one of those threads, but I just checked my history and couldn't find anything.  Maybe the thread got deleted?  But yeah, I have noticed them but haven't really been interested in reading anything with the death of the US dollar as a topic.  There's been discussion related to that for a long time now, and it's anyone's guess as to what's really going to happen.

In most cases, the news on the forum is a reflection of what happens outside the forum. The trending news always finds its way into the forum. The news of the ditching of the dollar was propelled by the rumor that the BRICS nations are considering substituting the dollar with a common currency or the Chinese Yaun.
That's usually true for headline news stories related to crypto (like the collapse of FTX), but I'm assuming the members who created the threads OP is referring to weren't established members.  Am I right, OP?  It sounds like a spammer or propagandist or who knows what.

In any event, I don't think this is really a big deal.  I'd say it's probably a good thing whoever started up those threads went away.

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