Live casino over provably fair games.

[DoublerHunter]

I don't know why but i mostly lose on provably fair, when  start betting then some times the graph stay green, after betting some more bets it become red and go straight down, draining my balance.
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^You can simply ask the casino staff about their provably fair system and I think you can verify it publicly.
I never think of winning big once I am gambling, because gambling should be done for entertainment purposes only, and never with the expectation of winning big. I may suggest choosing always a reputable casino if you have doubt about their system because a reputable casino runs their business legitimately, remember that the gambling industry is a business nothing more.

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[serjent05]

Usually, it is all in our minds what's gonna happen. But the provably fair will still be there, no matter there is a gap between the game or not.
If the casino is practicing the provable fairness, it doesn't matter if it is live or not.

But live games is not provably fair because players can't verify the fairness of live casino.  They are not given any hash to verify the result and most of the Casino games are human-operated.  I do agree that if the casino practice honesty then there is no problem but many casinos are not that honest.  They will take advantage of the possibility to get an advantage against their players in order to rake in profit.

I know this feeling, OP, when you're so used to clicking that roll button that when it goes red and you start losing you keep clicking anyway until you run out of money. Or you set it to auto betting and watch it go win -lose win- lose win win lose lose and it keeps staying at a level and then suddenly crashes and you get 10 loses in a row and you're out. I don't know what to tell you, maybe play slower-paced games like poker or blackjack where you have some more time to think than in roulette or dice.

I do know the feeling too, and we can remove it from the person's thought.  We all wanted the next roll or spin to be profitable so we keep on thinking that maybe the next spin will be a good one eventhough we know the fact that the result is really chance-based.

[Agbe]

I don't know why but i mostly lose on provably fair, when  start betting then some times the graph stay green, after betting some more bets it become red and go straight down, draining my balance.

and in provably fair once we lose more then 10% of balance then, then we start to revenge gambling to recover our loses, while recovering we are unable to think by waiting some times, we think like my profit is only one click away, then clicking and clicking then increasing bet size and blowing account.
I know this case is not for everyone, but in gambling most of players comes on that phase! we can not control and wait and think to recover that loss tomorrow because we can profit in just a one mouse click.

while in live casino, like playing roulette there is 15sec gap in every spin, in that 15sec i can think something, or sizing bets and close my gambling session for that day. 
and also live casino's dealer is front of me i can see we are cheated or not, but i don't know if they use rigged roulette or not.

If you are losing in that particular game then you have to change the method, skills and the approach you are using in the game that is making you to lose in that tremendous way. From you explanation, you said the spin and a pausing period of  5second, which can be used to rest or go away with first win. That is a good idea. Why did you do that if you know that you are frequently losing the fair game?

[Webetcoins]

There is no rigging if the casino has a provably-fair system intact, and the system is for you to use, so just go ahead and check your bets using the system to know if your bet was lost by cheating or it was just a general loss that occurs most of the times due to house edge and usually without it, in a game which has chances of you either winning or losing, you will surely lose at times, and you lose more when the bet is hit by the house edge factor.

I'm not sure if live games have any way to verify the bets or check if the games are provably-fair, but playing in a reputation casino platform such as Stake can surely save you from the rigged games in live casinos.

[slapper]

Bro, I concur. This alleged fair system seems to work against us. Why is the line green when we start betting and red when we lose? We're fooled by the world! Don't suggest a gambling run to get even. We're trapped. We lose, so we double down to make up for it. Like recurring nightmares. However, the tale may be altered. We should slow down and review our betting game. Maybe we should develop and follow our own rules. We may need to pause, restart, and return with a fresh perspective. We may need a security system

[Coin_trader]

I'm not sure if live games have any way to verify the bets or check if the games are provably-fair

There’s no way to verify that since the game is LIVE. The only way to verify if their games is probably fair is when you on the studio and watch it carefully or there’s a 3rd party inspector that will check the live game tools to verify each bet if probably fair.

Only those decentralized games and some slot games allows bet verification with their probably fair system. But live casino has no way to do that because all games happening IRL and just being broadcast live. If you can find a way to verify it maybe you can suggest it to the provider.

but playing in a reputation casino platform such as Stake can surely save you from the rigged games in live casinos.

Live casino on Stake is just same with other casino even with mediocre casino since they are just 3rd party game providers and not developed by Stake exclusively. The only thing that user can guarantee on playing with reputable casino is they can assure that their money is safe and can be withdrawn without any problem. But 3rd party games is just same with different casino. If evolution gaming is rigged then Stake evolution gaming is rigged too because Stake is not the one producing the live games.

[piebeyb]

I'm not sure if live games have any way to verify the bets or check if the games are provably-fair, but playing in a reputation casino platform such as Stake can surely save you from the rigged games in live casinos.

yes, it depends on where they play in a live casino, usually for large casinos of the same class as Stake it can be much fairer than other casinos, after all it is difficult to cheat when playing a live casino, if you play in a small casino, for example a game of roulette, the casino can outsmart the machine, even though it is very difficult or try a game of blackjack where it's impossible for the casino to cheat. but no one knows either, what I know is that the dealer will always win and won't let gamblers win big from it.

Live casinos may play games that are proven fair, but depending on how we can beat the dealer, if there is no cheating, many rich gamblers today should win playing live casinos. The fact is, many gamblers have lost a lot of money from live casino games. is this called fair play, I don't think so but maybe it only applies to small casino sites not to big casinos.

[goldkingcoiner]

I don't know why but i mostly lose on provably fair, when  start betting then some times the graph stay green, after betting some more bets it become red and go straight down, draining my balance.

and in provably fair once we lose more then 10% of balance then, then we start to revenge gambling to recover our loses, while recovering we are unable to think by waiting some times, we think like my profit is only one click away, then clicking and clicking then increasing bet size and blowing account.
I know this case is not for everyone, but in gambling most of players comes on that phase! we can not control and wait and think to recover that loss tomorrow because we can profit in just a one mouse click.

while in live casino, like playing roulette there is 15sec gap in every spin, in that 15sec i can think something, or sizing bets and close my gambling session for that day. 
and also live casino's dealer is front of me i can see we are cheated or not, but i don't know if they use rigged roulette or not.

As long as you hold yourself to good security standards and a certain amount of discipline, you will find that neither live casinos nor provably fair online games differ in any way. But then again you should also make sure that you are gambling on a reputable casino which has been around for a long time and has no active scam accusations against it. Furthermore, it should have a valid gambling license.

I think you may have created a bias against online gambling for yourself when you started losing and "revenge gambling" as you called it. Perhaps losing and then losing even more due to bad/rash decisions is the real problem here?

[tusandii]

If you can take advantage of the 15-second delay before the ball is spun to do a brief analysis in order to get the right number or color prediction, then luck could be on your side and give you victory.

So that the casino will not manipulate? If there is manipulation, it would be more complex than that. As for me, I bet anytime and I do win or lose. What you will take is what you will take.

We don't know whether the casino is manipulating or not because we only play by watching the livestreaming of the game and all we have to do is place bets that we are sure will give a win.

Winning and losing are bound to exist in gambling so gamble for fun without thinking about losing or winning and when luck comes without you knowing it you can easily get victory despite the manipulation actions carried out by the casino.

What can I take?
Remember in gambling we cannot determine what we will take so everything depends on luck and courage when taking risks. So I don't agree with your last sentence.

[coin.princess]

Maybe you are just unlucky with the provably fair games, I tried playing both the provably fair and the live casino and with no luck I am bad in both and I am unlucky at the same time but for me I think I'll go with the provably fair games because we all know that it is fair and it there is now way to rigged it and you can actually verify it on your own although the live casino is the same there's no guaranteed that it is fair.

[aioc]

I don't know why but i mostly lose on provably fair, when  start betting then some times the graph stay green, after betting some more bets it become red and go straight down, draining my balance.

If you cannot moderate your greed and wants to earn more when you already or win this is what's going to happen I have experienced this a hundred times and the only solution for this I discover is to stop and be contented with your winnings, asking for more will most of the times gets you in trouble.

and in provably fair once we lose more then 10% of balance then, then we start to revenge gambling to recover our loses, while recovering we are unable to think by waiting some times, we think like my profit is only one click away, then clicking and clicking then increasing bet size and blowing account.
I know this case is not for everyone, but in gambling most of players comes on that phase! we can not control and wait and think to recover that loss tomorrow because we can profit in just a one mouse click.

That's chasing your losses and very risky, we are very impatient trying to recover our losses, thinking that the next roll could be the roll that we're waiting for, this is dangerous thinking, and its a trap, this is the part where you are going to lose everything.

while in live casino, like playing roulette there is 15sec gap in every spin, in that 15sec i can think something, or sizing bets and close my gambling session for that day. 
and also live casino's dealer is front of me i can see we are cheated or not, but i don't know if they use rigged roulette or not.

If you're going for profit and you think live casino can give you that, then why not play on live casinos, but remember that the cause of your losses in provably fair games can also become the cause of your losses in live casinos, you know when you gamble the longer you stay the higher your chances to lose everything.

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^You can simply ask the casino staff about their provably fair system and I think you can verify it publicly.

What that is mostly matters is to choose a reputable casino and verify it publicly. Then if you are good enough to know about how to test and know fair games, you can test it out yourself, not by asking the casino staff because scammers always know the way around to cheat without telling the truth.

So that the casino will not manipulate? If there is manipulation, it would be more complex than that. As for me, I bet anytime and I do win or lose. What you will take is what you will take.

We don't know whether the casino is manipulating or not because we only play by watching the livestreaming of the game and all we have to do is place bets that we are sure will give a win.

What I mean is that irrespective of you staking immediately after the last game, or you wait some seconds after, that because you bet on the same thing, that it would still be the same result.

According to the post I replied to, he thought to avoid manipulation, that the game should be staked when about to start the next game, but I do not think that is necessary than playing on a reputable casino site.

[robelneo]

When you're playing for fun and just want to be entertained you're not going to notice this, but if you're looking for a win, you will notice this, remember this, calculate and be suspicious, if you're looking to win, have an amount in your mind where you want to stop and call it a day, not having this amount in your head will give you a false impression that you are lucky and it's your day and you want to extend it, and then that where the house edge comes in and before you notice it and your winning is gone and you want to stay to recover your winning and you end up recovering your losses.

So it's like this, you think you're lucky, you extend, you lose your winning, then you try to recover your losses then you lose everything then you log out feeling depressed, this is not a fun way to gamble.

[len01]

every gambler must have experienced losing streaks in all types of bets, not just roulette. but that doesn't mean it's a scam or game manipulation.
In fact I myself had my first experience betting on roulette with a budget of $50 to $500-600 and after a few days I lost over $200 the next day I was still losing and a few months later I won another $400.
so the conclusion is pretty easy casino or games from any provider it is one business that is built to make a profit. so the problem of losing streaks or winning streaks is just a condition where you are unlucky and are lucky.

[Casdinyard]

If you're having reservations about the validity of your gambling, then I suggest you look for a different casino because you'd never stop attributing your losses over the suspicion that they're trying to screw you up, regardless of how reputable the casino you're playing in is. This goes for both live and online gambling. I get why you're having doubts because well, it's a part of the process. Everyone at some point in their gambling journey will be skeptical of the casino's integrity, especially if you've lost substantial amounts of money over games that you have no business losing to.

So yeah, let's cut the middle man and save yourself the trouble, you can't live your gambling life doubting your casino daily. Make the switch.

[Peanutswar]

One of the major differences is the actual casino the games they are offering are actually played by the banker and can see by a lot of perspective of players and viewers that any kind of change, they can react to easily can be called a problem in a gambling casino through online it's all programmatically by the developers or the third party application they bought to play and getting partnered with them, but in terms of convenience its all favor with the online casino because the player can play in different places whether what device they are currently using. Still physical casino can brings different experience.

[Yatsan]

If you're having reservations about the validity of your gambling, then I suggest you look for a different casino because you'd never stop attributing your losses over the suspicion that they're trying to screw you up, regardless of how reputable the casino you're playing in is. This goes for both live and online gambling. I get why you're having doubts because well, it's a part of the process. Everyone at some point in their gambling journey will be skeptical of the casino's integrity, especially if you've lost substantial amounts of money over games that you have no business losing to.

So yeah, let's cut the middle man and save yourself the trouble, you can't live your gambling life doubting your casino daily. Make the switch.

The fact that we will never know whether a platform is taking advantage of players through manipulation, we are free to move from one another especially if we are feeling uncomfortable. It should not be players to seek or follow gambling platforms; there are numerous to choose from. As mentioned by OP, he noticed that he is not winning on a particular instance and he won't be in such stand if consistency is present. Some would say luck and such which are possible as well but to just make the discussion simple and less energy consuming, just move if you percieve bad things happening on your money or bets.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I don't know why but i mostly lose on provably fair, when  start betting then some times the graph stay green, after betting some more bets it become red and go straight down, draining my balance.

and in provably fair once we lose more then 10% of balance then, then we start to revenge gambling to recover our loses, while recovering we are unable to think by waiting some times, we think like my profit is only one click away, then clicking and clicking then increasing bet size and blowing account.
I know this case is not for everyone, but in gambling most of players comes on that phase! we can not control and wait and think to recover that loss tomorrow because we can profit in just a one mouse click.

while in live casino, like playing roulette there is 15sec gap in every spin, in that 15sec i can think something, or sizing bets and close my gambling session for that day. 
and also live casino's dealer is front of me i can see we are cheated or not, but i don't know if they use rigged roulette or not.

When you talk about rigging, i tell you it happens every where, both on live casino games and provably fair games, and one thing with provably fair games is that not every gambler know how to verify if a game is truly probably fair, and because of this, there are still lots of games out there with the casino saying it's provably fair, but it's reality, it not, and gamblers keep playing this games believing they are playing a provably fair game, without knowing that they are being scammed by the casino.

So know it that rigging happens anyway, both in live casino games and probably fair, what I must encourage all gamblers to do is to learn how to tell if a game is truly provably fair, find a good casino with games that are truly provably fair and play there, there is no way you won't make some good winning any day luck is on your side.

[YOSHIE]

I don't know why but i mostly lose on provably fair, when  start betting then some times the graph stay green, after betting some more bets it become red and go straight down, draining my balance.

We often say that the gambling industry always has a risk, whether it's a high or low level, that is certain for every user who has started playing money at a particular casino, without realizing the risk of loss has been written without being seen by the user himself, only those who are lucky can overcome the risks and losses when the money is spinning in the bet.

The experience you are experiencing is generally experienced by other users, including myself, I realize that when betting failure continues to haunt me, there is no other way, other than stopping for a moment to bet, whether I have won or lost.

Talking about the game of Roulette, actually it is generally felt the same by other people, but for me instead of the high risk table Roulette, I prefer to bet on running Roulette, with 2x and 14x payment methods with three color choices of yellow Roulette boxes, brown and white, but there is also something even more interesting, namely the type of Roulette weapon, I'm sure it's a pretty fair game, it's just that the guess is right.

[roslinpl]

It’s pure based on your own opinion, their are lot of good casino for now. And most of them was based on the crypto currency. The main advantage of crypto based casino is the withdrawal will be delivered in crypto currencies. Even if you had stop the gambling after the big win from the casino, you can do some holding of crypto currency to earn profit without any risk. The gamblers face some loss on one day, he will have good hope to recover their loss in gambling on the next. But this thing was impossible by the traders. Traders can’t assure anything based on the market. But gamblers will earn few profits on all the casino with certain period of time. Traders profit will be minimum or maximum based on the period of time. Gambling people who find huge strategic will gain more money as compared to the normal traders.