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April 22, 2023, 12:08:49 PM
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I think you are trying to compare Live casino over provably fair games as against your winning and losing experience and based on your post, it appears as if you are also part of your challenge likewise most gamblers experience. So while gambling in whatever form, you have to understand that you are up against your luck and emotions. By the way gambling is meant to be for fun  Grin don't put all your financial hope on it.

Two mistakes gamblers make, first they don't play as fun but instead they want to make money quickly and they get pressure into making mistakes and they lose that particular bets, it doesn't matter whatever game they're playing. It could be live casino games or others.

Second, they don't stop when they're losing, instead they chase after their lost and want to make profits to cover up, they don't realized that when chasing losses they aren't playing with clear eyes and can get easily pressured to make the wrong bets in whatever games they're playing.

If you're losing just stop playing, and come back another day to continue playing. Gambling shouldn't be over done or you can get easily influenced and it turns into an addiction which could take a very long time to get over.
They say "when the fun stops, stop gambling!" and same advice holds true here. Money isn't everything, so stop acting like it is. Sure, it's fantastic to win big, but if you're not enjoying yourself, what's the point? Gambling is more fun when it's just for fun and not about making quick money. Putting undue stress on oneself to achieve massive success is a surefire way to fall short of your goals. Stop for a moment and think about why you started gambling. And if you're already losing, don't go rushing after your money like a mad dog. What a surefire way to meet with failure! Taking a step back can help you approach the problem with fresh eyes the next time around

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April 22, 2023, 12:59:03 PM
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The longer you bet, higher the chances are for you to lose. So try to keep your gambling sessions small.
Doing that will limit your losses for the day and then you will get more time to think how to size your bet for the next day.
You will also be able to change your strategy for the next gambling session and control yourself from over gambling.
So don't go in hard and limit yourself for just a few bets per session.

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April 22, 2023, 01:36:18 PM
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I have the same issue. It gets good in a few hours, I just have to prepare my coffee and back and then lose the next rounds. It's the opposite of what you expect when you get excited. I close my eyes and remember the advice to stop when you're winning.

Your mind always just has the set up that you can't stop when you know you still didn't recover the money from your previous loss. Hard to learn when you have read all the advice and recommendations over and over yet you have not followed the advice.
You really can't predict what will happen and it is just a proof that at anytime you won't stay on the profitable side. Actually in my experience it is just both. Probably, what the OP experienced is just a coincidence the difference I see between probably fair games and live casinos is that the live casino is slow paced than the provably fair games.
provably games and live casino have their own Terms and condition also they have their own way to run the casino. But they are the same in one thing and also we all know this. Every casino have their strategy and one thing they are the same is once we put our bet we should not think at we are always the winner in short it will base on our luck and once we've bring our luck then we will win a good amount of money.

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April 22, 2023, 01:43:14 PM
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Do it for fun.

Gambling is addicting, even if you make money off gambling today, and you go back tomorrow you will still lose all the entire money you've won unless you quit gambling the day you win a lot of money.

If I don't have a spare 10 or 20$ I won't go near gambling and I believe that there is nothing I can get from gambling, this is why I don't find myself getting obsessed with gambling.

It's a scary way of earning money and I see where people get too addicted to gambling and it ruined their lives, till today they haven't balanced their lives, I mean all of them.

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April 22, 2023, 02:57:58 PM
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If you try to earn money by becoming addicted to gambling, it will lead to more losses and should be played as a means of entertainment. Gambling will result in winning and losing trying to get everything from now on will destroy life one kind of curiosity is addiction to various gambling sites. At first he got greedy by investing a small amount of money and at one stage loses millions of rupees. Gambling is not the only economic loss of the country or the individual many people suffer from family turmoil due to gambling addiction.

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April 22, 2023, 03:04:11 PM
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If you try to earn money by becoming addicted to gambling, it will lead to more losses and should be played as a means of entertainment. Gambling will result in winning and losing trying to get everything from now on will destroy life one kind of curiosity is an addiction to various gambling sites. At first, he got greedy by investing a small amount of money and at one stage loses millions of rupees. Gambling is not the only economic loss of the country or the individual many people suffer from family turmoil due to gambling addiction.

Both live casinos and provably fair games could result in losses if we don't manage the risk and limit ourselves from compulsive gambling. We might think that we are being cheated on a certain game but in the first place we should keep in mind that gambling will always be accompanied by the possibility of losses. If we aim for continuous winnings then we are on the wrong track because we can never beat the house. Instead of having high hopes and goals that are too good to be true, better enjoy gambling as a form of entertainment.
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April 22, 2023, 03:21:58 PM
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No one is telling us to gamble so we should already know that casinos can easily cheat us without us knowing. And if we already know, we should also know what to do and if the casino really cheats on us, we can move to another casino.

Meanwhile, we also know that in gambling, we can get two outcomes: winning and losing. And if we have experienced defeat or victory, we still have two options: winning and losing. So we should have thought about whether we still want to play gambling or we have to stop gambling.
Probably its not cheating for them as they are more focus on winning over the gamblers, and this has been their system. Live casinos are ok, but it is still not guaranteed your winnings so don’t expect that much. Roulette is a great game to play live, there’s indeed a time where you can think though if you see some irregularities with the site better to raise that concern so they can investigate and assure you about the fairness of the site.
I personally think that games like roulette and others should only be played if they are in game-mode and not in live casinos, I know that some casinos provide legitimate live games but if you are gambling on a platform that isn't very well-known or trusted, you should avoid playing at their live games because you might be cheated and you wouldn't even know it.

I would personally never gamble on a platform that is no provably-fair, and if it is, I only play the games where I can easily verify the results of the bets I've made so far if I feel something isn't right about the game or the casino in general.

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I didn't experience live casino betting a lot. But in today's football match I roleplayed like I am doing live bets. I feel like it can be very cool experience tho. When I am watching a football match sometimes both teams love motivation especially when score is draw. At that point it can be cool to change your decision to increase your winning chance. Also sudden red cards can change football betting a lot. I would enjoy luxury of live betting.
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I don't know why but i mostly lose on provably fair, when  start betting then some times the graph stay green, after betting some more bets it become red and go straight down, draining my balance.

That's what you called your "own scenario". You end up at the point where you discover a certain pattern or situation. It happened to everyone and it varies with each other. But technically, don't make things too complicated. It's just that sometimes, you have to understand that the situation won't always favor you.

In other words, that's what gambling is all about - to win or to lose - regardless if it's a live casino or the usual online casino game.

If you are having a bad losing streak on a particular session, take a break, that's it.

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Gambling is not the only economic loss of the country or the individual many people suffer from family turmoil due to gambling addiction.

While I agree with you that gambling addiction is bad and it is supposed to be prevented by all means like any other addiction. In a macroeconomical sense, gambling can represent a boost for local economies and even entire regions, it does not origin of doom and destruction.

For example, if it was not for gamblings cities like Las Vegas would not be as famous and would not be a very important touristic hotspot. If people got the help they need and problem gambling as not a thing, still the government and the people would benefit, since casinos usually need to pay special taxes and even donate to charity.  In the end, it is a business and part of culture. But it is a personal opinion from each of us, and I respect it.  Wink

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If it goes too fast, then slow down. Whatever helps you to gamble responsibly it is okey and you are supposed to welcome it. Good luck.  Wink

this is what I never come to experience to chase my losses because the moment i deposit and starts playing then I already knew that i will lose but surely win with fun and happiness .
never chase losses because that will double or even more your losing , and that is what most of my friend experienced from their gambling activities .
I didn't experience live casino betting a lot. But in today's football match I roleplayed like I am doing live bets. I feel like it can be very cool experience tho. When I am watching a football match sometimes both teams love motivation especially when score is draw. At that point it can be cool to change your decision to increase your winning chance. Also sudden red cards can change football betting a lot. I would enjoy luxury of live betting.
I only play live casino in Roulette and Black jack , actually the lightning games is my favorite but after reading a thread here about the cheating happening in roulette ?
maybe i will skip playing this game even in live for now while looking for another game to gamble.

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I only play live casino in Roulette and Black jack , actually the lightning games is my favorite but after reading a thread here about the cheating happening in roulette ?
maybe i will skip playing this game even in live for now while looking for another game to gamble.
Not all Roulette providers in the casino are cheating, friends. You just need to find a casino with a Roulette game that you can rely on.
The Roulette game is a live game that many gamblers can participate in so you don't need to worry too much if there is an act of cheating because you can see the statistics in the roulette game for several rounds which have been going on whatever numbers come out.
Usually the Roulette game has different exit numbers in several sessions so you can take advantage and calculate the loopholes to place your bet numbers.
Never think that there is cheating in a game because it will only take away your confidence when betting.

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while in live casino, like playing roulette there is 15sec gap in every spin, in that 15sec i can think something, or sizing bets and close my gambling session for that day. 
and also live casino's dealer is front of me i can see we are cheated or not, but i don't know if they use rigged roulette or not.


I am not sure in which city you usually play and how big the casinos are where you enjoy Roulette, but if you are playing one of the large casinos then I wouldn't worry about cheating or rigged games. In most countries the gambling industry is highly regulated and there are government inspections that will check the casinos on a constant basis on how well their games are operating. Roulette by itself is already a game that makes a lot of money for the casino. The house edge ensure that with enough games there will a constant profit. It just doesn't make any sense for one of the big casinos to risk their reputation by rigging the Roulette tables. If the news would come out it would be a huge scandal and the casino would be ruined. Nobody would play again at a casino that rigs it's games. 
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this is what I never come to experience to chase my losses because the moment i deposit and starts playing then I already knew that i will lose but surely win with fun and happiness .
If you think you are winning already because you are enjoying the game no matter what happens with your money then there is no need to chase for some thing because it's always guaranteed that you will enjoy each time you play gambling. Our game will depend on us and not on the casino.

If we are going to fast, there must be a reason with that. It can be that we will do some other things after we play gambling. The worse thing on why a gambler speeds up is because they want quick profits. I doubt they will be successful with that. There are some pro gamblers that I saw who successfully made over 1 BTC starting from a tiny satoshi but they achieve it slowly. It took them longer hours or even days, weeks.

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WTF ? all roulette are cheating bro.

One of the games, I ban for live-games. It's better playing card game, example like high card (one-card only). Even a dice game, the dice can be cheated with some magnet that's why card game are the solution.

Especially "BJ" you can card-counting them, however the casino can back of you. If they knew, you are card counter even we all know is legal to count the card but they prohibited any advantage player.

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while in live casino, like playing roulette there is 15sec gap in every spin, in that 15sec i can think something, or sizing bets and close my gambling session for that day. 
and also live casino's dealer is front of me i can see we are cheated or not, but i don't know if they use rigged roulette or not.

We still don't know if we are cheated though even in live casino dealer, we don't know if that roulette is biased to a certain number. And obviously casino's has the house edge in roulette, so the longer you play the chance that you might lose as well.

And here is a video of a live casino dealer cheating,



So in any case, there are still ways for casinos to cheat, just saying, whether it's supposedly provably fair or live dealer.


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The big mistake for players who are playing in here
- Playing in a shity casino like this
- 3gp camera
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- Stupid card.

If people smart will never play on a casino/provider who is provided like these. I would never and ever playing on a casino like these, by what they offer to the player should be at least avoid that.

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April 28, 2023, 05:16:37 PM
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Although the house edge is bigger, I do prefer live casino games. Just seems more fun playing with a live dealer around.

Nothing can beat these 1000x multipliers on the slot machines though Grin

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April 29, 2023, 04:58:30 PM
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this is what I never come to experience to chase my losses because the moment i deposit and starts playing then I already knew that i will lose but surely win with fun and happiness .
If you think you are winning already because you are enjoying the game no matter what happens with your money then there is no need to chase for some thing because it's always guaranteed that you will enjoy each time you play gambling. Our game will depend on us and not on the casino.

If we are going to fast, there must be a reason with that. It can be that we will do some other things after we play gambling. The worse thing on why a gambler speeds up is because they want quick profits. I doubt they will be successful with that. There are some pro gamblers that I saw who successfully made over 1 BTC starting from a tiny satoshi but they achieve it slowly. It took them longer hours or even days, weeks.
The gamblers who tend to play with higher speeds or increase their bets with every lost bet tend to lose more money in less time, though sometimes they get lucky and win a bet that returns them pretty much what they've lost but that doesn't work all the time since the house edge factor doesn't let them have an advantage.

Only the very lucky gamblers manage to win big using the speeding technique, otherwise, if you are over speeding with you bets on any game, you are more likely to lose everything to the house due to the house edge.

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