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May 29, 2023, 07:59:16 PM
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Stake got a lawsuit too before but they are still standing strong.

Got a lawsuit about what? About not paying winnings? Of course not. Stake is a respectable website.
If they git a lawsuit then they have to settle it and stand strong again or else, that will make gamblers to lose interest in there casino and they will have to start afresh again before they regain there customers again because of the reputation they have lost. There is no way they can escape the lawsuit because if they are confirmed to be reliable, they're going to pay and pay again.

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May 30, 2023, 12:48:37 PM
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There is no way you expect Hhampuz to comment on a matter that is not verified to be true.
But it IS true. People who always want evidence while they know something is true are the people with bad intentions of lie and fraud. They don’t need me to know it’s true.

And FortuneJack on the part have said nothing about your claim, or maybe Hhampuz have reached out to the FortuneJack team to ascertain if your claim is true, and the team ask him to say nothing.
This is the most likely scenario.


If they git a lawsuit then they have to settle it and stand strong again or else, that will make gamblers to lose interest in there casino and they will have to start afresh again before they regain there customers again because of the reputation they have lost.
Exactly… I still have to get an answer up to this day on what reputable online casino has a lawsuit because of unpaid winnings… and if that would happen, certainly no respectable lawyer would take the case.
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May 30, 2023, 02:32:15 PM
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There is no way you expect Hhampuz to comment on a matter that is not verified to be true.
But it IS true. People who always want evidence while they know something is true are the people with bad intentions of lie and fraud. They don’t need me to know it’s true.
Haha, 😂 friend, you are very funny, maybe you should read your comment again and try to understand it from another user's angle.

How exactly did they (like you put it) get to know that what you claim is true?
Where they there with you when you deposited, played and won on ForturnJack, and then FortuneJack refused to pay you? And you all agreed to file a case against FortuneJack?

This transaction is something you did on your own, as you claimed you did, FortuneJack refused to pay you - is also a claim of yours since there is no evidence..
And then striking a lawsuit against FortuneJack, is also another claim of yours, you didn't carry out any of this activities with anybody else, so how did they, that you referred to come to know that all this is true when you didn't carry any of them along while all this activities was going on?

And not to look like I am taking you for a ride, I am just catching cruz here, I do not believe any of your claim,  and I believe that 100 percent of users commenting here do not believe you as well, we are just having fun here, and until you make an evidence available, no body will take you and this thread serious.

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May 30, 2023, 03:05:37 PM
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He may or may not have been advised by the team to stay out of this but it's only natural that the campaign manager of FJ refrain from making any comments on an ongoing lawsuit. The signature campaign will likely continue even if FJ lost anyway. They will just pay the OP and move on with their business.

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It is up to you to either attach evidence that proves that what you claim is true, then and only then can users take you serious, and maybe Hhampuz will have no other choice but to say something.
It's probably not a public trial so don't expect any evidence to prove that there's really an ongoing lawsuit. It's also not a high profile case so no links for media coverage to show.

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June 11, 2023, 05:29:02 PM
 #125

There is no way you expect Hhampuz to comment on a matter that is not verified to be true.
But it IS true. People who always want evidence while they know something is true are the people with bad intentions of lie and fraud. They don’t need me to know it’s true.

And FortuneJack on the part have said nothing about your claim, or maybe Hhampuz have reached out to the FortuneJack team to ascertain if your claim is true, and the team ask him to say nothing.
This is the most likely scenario.


If they git a lawsuit then they have to settle it and stand strong again or else, that will make gamblers to lose interest in there casino and they will have to start afresh again before they regain there customers again because of the reputation they have lost.
Exactly… I still have to get an answer up to this day on what reputable online casino has a lawsuit because of unpaid winnings… and if that would happen, certainly no respectable lawyer would take the case.

A lawsuit isn't going to work since casinos never lose in Curacao. I went over to your thread in scam accusations and the pics aren't showing up so I don't have an opinion other than lawsuits are a waste of time and money there. Also, I really like FJ so would like to know exactly what happened.
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June 12, 2023, 07:41:28 AM
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There is no way you expect Hhampuz to comment on a matter that is not verified to be true.
But it IS true. People who always want evidence while they know something is true are the people with bad intentions of lie and fraud. They don’t need me to know it’s true.
Haha, 😂 friend, you are very funny, maybe you should read your comment again and try to understand it from another user's angle.

How exactly did they (like you put it) get to know that what you claim is true?
Where they there with you when you deposited, played and won on ForturnJack, and then FortuneJack refused to pay you? And you all agreed to file a case against FortuneJack?

This transaction is something you did on your own, as you claimed you did, FortuneJack refused to pay you - is also a claim of yours since there is no evidence..
And then striking a lawsuit against FortuneJack, is also another claim of yours, you didn't carry out any of this activities with anybody else, so how did they, that you referred to come to know that all this is true when you didn't carry any of them along while all this activities was going on?

And not to look like I am taking you for a ride, I am just catching cruz here, I do not believe any of your claim,  and I believe that 100 percent of users commenting here do not believe you as well, we are just having fun here, and until you make an evidence available, no body will take you and this thread serious.
I think it's essential to underscore the importance of evidence in any claim. It is not to suggest dishonesty or fraudulent intent. Instead, it's a foundational element of any logical or academic discussion. The burden of proof is always on the claimant. Think of it as "pics or it didn't happen" rule of the internet.

Now, referring to your encounter with FortuneJack, I can understand your frustration, but we can't blindly accept your version without solid proof. It's not a matter of trust but adhering to the principles of fair discussion. Just as we expect a news article to cite sources, we expect users to back their claims with credible evidence. It doesn't necessarily mean we think you're lying, but rather that we want to engage in an informed discussion.

As for the lawsuit, sharing verifiable documents would immensely strengthen your case in the court of public opinion. Until then, people will maintain skepticism. It's not about ridicule or fun; it's about the pursuit of truth.

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June 13, 2023, 06:14:20 AM
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A lawsuit isn't going to work since casinos never lose in Curacao. I went over to your thread in scam accusations and the pics aren't showing up so I don't have an opinion other than lawsuits are a waste of time and money there. Also, I really like FJ so would like to know exactly what happened.
Just check google where AntillePhone was sentenced to 500,000 dollars to pay a turkish player who was scammed as I was. (AntillePhone is also the regulator of Fortunejack)

And thank you for pointing out about not seeing the pictures, I can’t see them either. They’ve been here since a long time and they’ve always been visible. Anyone got an idea on why they’re no longer visible?
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June 23, 2023, 07:27:08 AM
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I read 7 pages and I don't understand what's the point?
you have sued (or are trying to sue) Fortunjack.
On all the pages you ask for fortune that it's true.
So, what is next?
True or not true, it doesn't matter.
Only the outcome of this lawsuit matters!
And I wish you good luck and do not forget to leave your comment after the end of the process.
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June 23, 2023, 03:17:33 PM
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120k is really a big amount of money, but I've played before in the FortuneJack without any problem but that time I don't have around 120k and it's just around 100-300USD I think it is really different when it comes to bigger money. I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.
Having a lawsuit doesn't mean the casino is bankrupt and since the op doesn't trust anyone to give out evidence  to this claims then I think I wouldn't have to treat this claims with any keen interest as this might be some form of anger verging on FortuneJack from op.
Op i don't know why it seems so difficult  for  you to show us proves to your accusation but I think that for the fact that you posted this accusation  on the forum, we deserve every right  to demand proves to your claims if you really don't want others to fall victims of same thing else I want to say that you're  messing with a business reputation and its really not a nice thing  to do.

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June 26, 2023, 11:52:31 AM
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True or not true, it doesn't matter.
Only the outcome of this lawsuit matters!
And I wish you good luck and do not forget to leave your comment after the end of the process.

So you believe it’s true:)

For you say only the outcome of this lawsuit matters, I disagree on many points. First, the outcome of this lawsuit won’t stop the process, since in case of unfavorable judgment it’s going to the appeal court, and then to the supreme court if necessary. Second, it’s not the result that matters what matters is that I’m doing my best to get my money. If these thieves get away with it, I am in peace and I will still be in peace even after my death when I see them in hell, when their evil presence will no longer have influence on the followers of Jesus Christ.

No problem I will post result here once it’s out.

120k is really a big amount of money, but I've played before in the FortuneJack without any problem but that time I don't have around 120k and it's just around 100-300USD I think it is really different when it comes to bigger money. I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.
Having a lawsuit doesn't mean the casino is bankrupt and since the op doesn't trust anyone to give out evidence  to this claims then I think I wouldn't have to treat this claims with any keen interest as this might be some form of anger verging on FortuneJack from op.
Op i don't know why it seems so difficult  for  you to show us proves to your accusation but I think that for the fact that you posted this accusation  on the forum, we deserve every right  to demand proves to your claims if you really don't want others to fall victims of same thing else I want to say that you're  messing with a business reputation and its really not a nice thing  to do.

Please read what has been written before posting.
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July 29, 2023, 06:41:49 PM
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Update: after court deposition they had about 6-7 weeks to reply, and then they decided to postpone. With summer vacations, now they have until September to reply. They’re doing their best to delay as much as possible.

They’ve had the same strategy since the very beginning when the demand letter was sent to them.
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July 29, 2023, 06:48:06 PM
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120k is really a big amount of money, but I've played before in the FortuneJack without any problem but that time I don't have around 120k and it's just around 100-300USD I think it is really different when it comes to bigger money. I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.
Having a lawsuit doesn't mean the casino is bankrupt and since the op doesn't trust anyone to give out evidence  to this claims then I think I wouldn't have to treat this claims with any keen interest as this might be some form of anger verging on FortuneJack from op.
Op i don't know why it seems so difficult  for  you to show us proves to your accusation but I think that for the fact that you posted this accusation  on the forum, we deserve every right  to demand proves to your claims if you really don't want others to fall victims of same thing else I want to say that you're  messing with a business reputation and its really not a nice thing  to do.
I think the ops is up to something that is either not clear to him what a law suit is and what it implications are in the operation of fortune jack which is somewhat the case,  because with all the baseless accusation and falsely announced law suit without any evidence to prove to the fact of the information.

Between,  ops already hard some red tag on his profile and his subsequent comment on this thread point to the fact that ops have nothing to prove other than accusing fortune jack and any one trying to ask for evidence or link to the lawsuit.
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July 29, 2023, 06:50:40 PM
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120k is really a big amount of money, but I've played before in the FortuneJack without any problem but that time I don't have around 120k and it's just around 100-300USD I think it is really different when it comes to bigger money. I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.
Having a lawsuit doesn't mean the casino is bankrupt and since the op doesn't trust anyone to give out evidence  to this claims then I think I wouldn't have to treat this claims with any keen interest as this might be some form of anger verging on FortuneJack from op.
Op i don't know why it seems so difficult  for  you to show us proves to your accusation but I think that for the fact that you posted this accusation  on the forum, we deserve every right  to demand proves to your claims if you really don't want others to fall victims of same thing else I want to say that you're  messing with a business reputation and its really not a nice thing  to do.
I think the ops is up to something that is either not clear to him what a law suit is and what it implications are in the operation of fortune jack which is somewhat the case,  because with all the baseless accusation and falsely announced law suit without any evidence to prove to the fact of the information.

Between,  ops already hard some red tag on his profile and his subsequent comment on this thread point to the fact that ops have nothing to prove other than accusing fortune jack and any one trying to ask for evidence or link to the lawsuit.
Stop shitposting and find a better job you idiot but maybe you can’t
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July 29, 2023, 07:04:14 PM
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Now that´s what I call shitposting ^^

BTW: Seven pages full of accusations but also seven pages without a shred of evidence. It's quite easy to do this without revealing anything. Up until now, all you've been doing is attacking FortuneJack. The fact that you provide absolutely no evidence is indefensible. You don't have to, but then you should also close the thread. There was no need for the thread in the first place. In this manner, anyone could make these kinds of claims about any casino or business.
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July 29, 2023, 07:18:48 PM
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Now that´s what I call shitposting ^^

BTW: Seven pages full of accusations but also seven pages without a shred of evidence. It's quite easy to do this without revealing anything. Up until now, all you've been doing is attacking FortuneJack. The fact that you provide absolutely no evidence is indefensible you don't have to, but then you should also close the thread. There was no need for the thread in the first place. In this manner, anyone could make these kinds of claims about any casino or business.
I guess the best way to deal with ops is to put him on my ignore list since he has proven not to be reasonable enough to engage in constructive discussions other than calling people names and accusing companies.

I advise you all put him on ignore list to avoid seeing further trash from the ops., I just had a run thorough ops post history before putting him in my ignore he has nothing to contribute to the forum despite being around since 2020.
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July 31, 2023, 05:43:41 AM
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Can I make this thread self moderated as of now? People (or bots) shitposting are trying to dilute my posts between their nonsense posts to make it difficult for the honest people who are interested in this thread follow up on important information.

I read once that there was going to be the Captcha anti-bot authenticator before posting but I see none.
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July 31, 2023, 12:38:02 PM
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I have never played on FortuneJack, but from what I see on the link provided by OP this is definitely a scam.
To be honest, I just don’t understand why so many here don’t want to believe him he is suing them. Why not sue them if he got scammed for such an amount of money.

I’ve had an issue with Duelbits that has been solved, never provided any evidence yet did not face people coming to my thread and saying this is not true. Posting pictures here also needs some time learning and some technical skills.

@OP this is also such a unique case you have it would be interesting if you post some pictures of the lawsuit papers.
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July 31, 2023, 01:40:43 PM
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Update: after court deposition they had about 6-7 weeks to reply, and then they decided to postpone. With summer vacations, now they have until September to reply. They’re doing their best to delay as much as possible.

They’ve had the same strategy since the very beginning when the demand letter was sent to them.


It seems to me that you still don't know what you want to achieve, you will probably say that you want justice, but nowadays there are two ways to get justice, different from the past when people had only one way, which was the courts. today people have the courts and the media and social networks and forums in which the person exposes his problem in search of support from the majority of people so that he can praise the company or person who committed the injustice, society today exercises a great pressure, that's why a good strategy that has been used is to simply post every problem with tests in every corner of social networks and forums and media.

now I ask you:

what are you doing here in the forum and what do you intend to achieve in this forum?

As I look at this thread and looking at your post history, I see that it's not working for you, and the reason is very simple: you don't post evidence, all you're doing is just writing and using arguments that people on the forum they are not reliable. but have you read what you have written? how the hell would it be possible for someone on the forum to change your court case? how would someone harm you if you are in what court and country and case number are you? how would anyone harm you if you showed pictures of every thing you are talking about? instead of showing evidence your focus has been on threatening people, insulting people because according to you they are from the third world and are on this forum to make money doing shitpost

Have you ever stopped to think and put yourself in people's shoes? who will believe a court case story without seeing evidence? how will people stay on your side without seeing proof? good luck doing everything that way

I have never played on FortuneJack, but from what I see on the link provided by OP this is definitely a scam.
To be honest, I just don’t understand why so many here don’t want to believe him he is suing them. Why not sue them if he got scammed for such an amount of money.

read the answer here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.msg58318691#msg58318691

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August 07, 2023, 07:48:58 AM
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now I ask you:

what are you doing here in the forum and what do you intend to achieve in this forum?
Have you looked at my profile to see how many (short) messages I posted here in the last months? Doesn’t look like I intend to achieve that much in this forum.

instead of showing evidence your focus has been on threatening people, insulting people because according to you they are from the third world and are on this forum to make money doing shitpost
What threats? Can you be more specific? Yes I threatened to bring a lawsuit and I did. As for the real justice, I’ll leave that up to God. Their fortune is only temporary and the delay of justice in that matter is only in God’s hand.
And yes I see it all the time here people making money shitposting.
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instead of showing evidence your focus has been on threatening people, insulting people because according to you they are from the third world and are on this forum to make money doing shitpost
What threats? Can you be more specific? Yes I threatened to bring a lawsuit and I did. As for the real justice, I’ll leave that up to God. Their fortune is only temporary and the delay of justice in that matter is only in God’s hand.
And yes I see it all the time here people making money shitposting.

All of this nonsense questioning your goal here will be avoided if you only provide proof for your actual lawsuit case against FJ. There’s no law that makes sharing a lawsuit confidential since this being tackle on a public trial.

You have no proof for your claim here that’s why your thread becomes full of post that ask you same question that you didn’t answer precisely. If you are still waiting then just lock this thread and wait for the result to release because your thread is more like fake threat instead of a reminder because there’s no supporting evidence over your case.

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