FORTUNEJACK.COM | Ongoing lawsuit, 120k usd stolen | Shady practices

[PaperWallet]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.0


And for those who clicked on this topic, I'll give you a bonus, that I think nobody else on the internet can give you, and that could save you some cheating from online casinos (since I've got first hand information).

This post though is about my own analysis and opinion on how things could go forward from here, not a certainty.

During last year, Casinos based in Curacao (like FortuneJack) have been arguing in the court of appeal that they don't have to pay any winnings for their customers, since they think the law cannot enforce anyone to pay gambling winnings (true story, coming from "casinos"). The decision of the court of appeal has been that yes they are organisations that have to pay winnings for the games they decide to offer.

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.


Edit: For the people posting here, saying this is FUD, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details.

Edit 22/04/23: I am not trusting anyone on this forum to give them more details or evidence in private message, so please don't ask. I do not intend to convince most people here, since experience shows they're mostly dishonest. It's for those who followed me here for some time and know I pretty much like the truth, and for those who have some common sense reading the link of my scam accusation above.

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[ufaiz50]

120k is really a big amount of money, but I've played before in the FortuneJack without any problem but that time I don't have around 120k and it's just around 100-300USD I think it is really different when it comes to bigger money. I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.

[Oshosondy]

I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.

What the big deal is, is to see it on a trustworthy news that FortuneJack has been sued to court, but there is nothing like that yet. Or if I am wrong, PaperWallet should prove that. This is just about I am coming for you, FortuneJack.

[coin-investor]

Since you already posted this in your accusation against FortuneJack in the scam section you don't have to create this kind of discussion you just have to update the threat for any development of the case since you cannot provide details of the court proceeding, because if you provide it, the court may contempt you so if the hearing is ongoing then give us an update when there's already a resolution or people will think that you are just creating FUDS and you are just inventing this court proceeding.

What's happening now is that justice will soon prevail, in my opinion, since the lawsuit is going forward. That's a lucky thing to get justice on this earth though.

[rhomelmabini]

Any leads so that we aren't that grasping from darkness on this case, I click the link you provided and it was just you saying it's ongoing. Well, anyhow let's see it's ongoing and we value that privacy and that stolen was really huge and hope you can get that. It may take some time though but will be good if there's news if you succeed or not.

[Oshosondy]

Since you already posted this in your accusation against FortuneJack in the scam section you don't have to create this kind of discussion you just have to update the threat for any development of the case since you cannot provide details of the court proceeding, because if you provide it, the court may contempt you so if the hearing is ongoing then give us an update when there's already a resolution or people will think that you are just creating FUDS and you are just inventing this court proceeding.

That is about scam accusation, this is about lawsuit, they are different. But what I see not good is that nothing like lawsuit yet but posting about here. Let us see how it goes, if truly there would be a lawsuit against ForjuneJack, there would not be another thread created about it. But we should know that scam accusation and lawsuit are worth separate threads.

[robelneo]

I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.

What the big deal is, is to see it on a trustworthy news that FortuneJack has been sued to court, but there is nothing like that yet. Or if I am wrong, PaperWallet should prove that. This is just about I am coming for you, FortuneJack.

This is an ongoing attack against Fortunejack OP even held a contest for opposing and supporting flags for and against Fortunejack, until we see at least one article about Fortunejack on trusted gambling reviews like Askgamblers that it is being charged in court, we can consider this as another FUD.
I would not take this seriously until I see one, its been over a year but until now open is still at it.

As a gesture of good will and to demonstrate that I really care, and not trolling, for all participants who either oppose or support the flag, I will be giving away 10mBTC (~300$ as of today) on the 1st of June to 10 members who either supported or opposed the flag. You have the same probability of winning whether you opposed or supported.

[piebeyb]

I'm just going to follow this case actually you have also created it on the fraud board so it's true said @coin-investor no need to create another thread here my advice is better to focus on the thread on the accusation board and close this thread I know this is the right way powerful to attract attention so that people see your case, I am interested in exploring this case but will not side with anyone because it is not my job to judge it, so just focus on one thread.

So far, I've played Fortunejack, never had a problem making a deposit or withdrawal, maybe I'm just a small gambler, so everything is processed easily and I've never played with big money at the casino for fear of problems like what I don't want or the case you're experiencing. , but let's see how the response from the fortunejack team responds to your problem here

[panganib999]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.0


And for those who clicked on this topic, I'll give you a bonus, that I think nobody else on the internet can give you, and that could save you some cheating from online casinos (since I've got first hand information).

This post though is about my own analysis and opinion on how things could go forward from here, not a certainty.

During last year, Casinos based in Curacao (like FortuneJack) have been arguing in the court of appeal that they don't have to pay any winnings for their customers, since they think the law cannot enforce anyone to pay gambling winnings (true story, coming from "casinos"). The decision of the court of appeal has been that yes they are organisations that have to pay winnings for the games they decide to offer.

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.

Pretty sure they have a running campaign in here, and they are paying their people well so it surprises me severely to find out that they have a lawsuit going on against them. But I get it, them not paying their customers for their wins is a different story so I understand why people are so quick to jump in this topic.

Addendum: It strikes me that you are the one that's filed a lawsuit against them, provide ample evidence in court along with the conversation screenshots of the agent that you talked to so you can have a good fighting chance and be able to get paid for your wins.

[PaperWallet]

If you're so interested, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). If not, ask sir Hhampuz I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details. As if I owe anybody anything here.

[YOSHIE]

Edit: For some stupid people posting here, saying this is FUD, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details.

I really lost my concentration reading this topic (FortuneJack), did I see wrongly and read the number 120k USD, isn't that money that can be used to make other businesses instead of having to enter it in the gambling arena, whether it's right or wrong, what is certain is that I am also an active member of FortuneJack, but I have never experienced anything that has harmed me, winning and losing are commonplace that I have experienced on gambling sites including FortuneJack.

not talking about Curacao licenses and laws, let's talk about the FortuneJack thread, which is here as well as a FortuneJack representative, indeed lately I have seen that there are many well-known gambling sites that have been accused of fraud, but none of them have been proven, user errors that often go berserk and create threads of accusations.

OP, it seems that the FortuneJack representative has explained here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.msg58318691#msg58318691 about your case, so what is it and other things that make you dissatisfied with the answers of the FortuneJack team.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.

What the big deal is, is to see it on a trustworthy news that FortuneJack has been sued to court, but there is nothing like that yet. Or if I am wrong, PaperWallet should prove that. This is just about I am coming for you, FortuneJack.

Not trying to make you or anyone else think or believe that I believe what paperwallet said..
But then, it's also very possible to have a lawsuit ongoing without anybody knowing, most especially when the organization involved knows they that publicly announcing such could harm their reputation or probably cause their customers to start panicking which could in turn affect the organization's business negatively.

If Indeed FortuneJack has a lawsuit against them, I don't expect them to say anything, atleast, until the signs begin to show, this is if the lawsuit is not resolved immediately though.

[Gozie51]

But then, it's also very possible to have a lawsuit ongoing without anybody knowing, most especially when the organization involved knows they that publicly announcing such could harm their reputation or probably cause their customers to start panicking which could in turn affect the organization's business negatively.

I don't think such news or story of lawsuit to such amount can be swept under the carpet. The press can not be gaged on that because it is a sellable news. Op can provide the lawsuit link if that is real but FortuneJack should make clearification to the scam accusation against them to build back the confidence of their customer.

[PaperWallet]

Ok so first when I made my scam accusation against FortuneJack, they asked for evidence. After I gave evidence, for the most part they refused to red tag FortuneJack and gave them full support for this theft.

Now I say there's an ongoing lawsuit, but everyone is jumping to say this is not true, + they want evidence. Thks God that in the afterlife, the everlasting one, the society of theft and lies will belong to hell and will be separated from the good society.

For those who know me here, they know I've always said the truth.

[BitcoinPanther]

I do not know what is the discussion on this thread is about.  Yes Fortunejack maybe has an ongoing lawsuit, but there is yet to be any conclusion on that, creating this thread may be tagged as FUD since there is nothing to support that FJ is guilty of such action.  I think @OP is too exciting about the development of the case and this thread is posted because of it.

I don't think such news or story of lawsuit to such amount can be swept under the carpet. The press can not be gaged on that because it is a sellable news. Op can provide the lawsuit link if that is real but FortuneJack should make clearification to the scam accusation against them to build back the confidence of their customer.

If the case is ongoing, I think Fortunejack has nothing to clear here until the decision of the court favors them (if there is really that lawsuit).  I have come to see the trust feedback of @OP and it looks like he has the personal vendetta of creating thread spreading news about how FJ scammed him.  But the thing is, if this case is already in filed and under court, @OP should wait for the decision instead of starting his personal vendetta against FJ all over again.  His previously created thread is still around this forum, and the scam accusation is still on the forum so I do not think creating a new one is necessary, this would be considered spam, honestly.

[coolcoinz]

What the big deal is, is to see it on a trustworthy news that FortuneJack has been sued to court, but there is nothing like that yet. Or if I am wrong, PaperWallet should prove that. This is just about I am coming for you, FortuneJack.

Then, according to OP, you're stupid

Edit: For some stupid people posting here, saying this is FUD,

I tend to avoid criticizing possible whistleblowers, but when they insult readers in their first post, you know there's something more going on.

go ask FortuneJack

OP, if this is real, why don't YOU ask Fortunejack about it and post the conversation. You want us to work as your personal army of trolls, or what?
You're being bossy and can't even accept a bit of constructive criticism.

[_act_]

Not trying to make you or anyone else think or believe that I believe what paperwallet said..
But then, it's also very possible to have a lawsuit ongoing without anybody knowing, most especially when the organization involved knows they that publicly announcing such could harm their reputation or probably cause their customers to start panicking which could in turn affect the organization's business negatively.

This may not be one of the lawsuits to hide, very possible that paper PaperWallet will follow this up and continue to update this thread unless the court order him not to do so, because all I could see now is that PaperWallet wanted to tanish the image of FortuneJack, not only about his money again, but also wanted his money though. If the lawsuit is hidden by the court, it only means that this thread created by PaperWallet is not useful, because what he wanted is for people to withdraw their money because of the lawsuit which we do not know anything about yet. Anything hidden for a reason not to let the customers of an organization to withdraw their money means the court has done their investigation on the organization and see that customers money are safe and do not want the organization to collapse because of customers panicking.

[Stedsm]

PaperWallet, we don't doubt you but we are also humans and if you want to follow privacy and don't want to disclose anything, then nobody will believe you (even if you are trying to help others to save their money). I'd suggest you to try and contact one of the highly reputed legends on this forum, LoyceV (if he agrees) and share the details of the lawsuit and/or more evidence that you believe, may help you in your case here. We don't want to see anything, but for you to prove your point, it is also necessary that at least someone on this forum does the fact check and comes up here to either defend you or put the reality in front of everyone.

[Johnyz]

It seems that OP have issues with Fortunejack, though if there is indeed a pending case then we should be more worry about it, the public should also be informed so they can know if they will still gamble with the site.

The money is not that small, though Fortunejack can easily settle this if they wanted to, maybe they are also confident about their system and believe that there’s no irregularities with their site, let’s just wait for the result of this case.

[Hispo]

I mean. I have got nothing against people leaving their feedback or trying to warn other about some situation going on but, if this is actually going on, OP; it does not make much sense to say all these things if you cannot even disclose proof of the alleged lawsuit (I assume it is because it would hurt your case if you did so, it is understandable).

It is simply about people taking more serious those cases where you  could (for example) show some legal document where that casino is being forced to go before a judge. At this point, you should have been aware of the skeptic the crypto community can be.

If this is not true and you are twisting the facts, then shame on you.

[Ojima-ojo]

If you're so interested, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). If not, ask sir Hhampuz I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details. As if I owe anybody anything here.

If you are not ready to. Give any evidence to validate your claims and to warn others from the casino how then you expect this thread to play any role, why should we waste more time on this discussion?

Having a negative trust rating on your profile should be enough reason why you need to go to extra lengths to convince us with your claims, but your saying you wouldn't share evidence on this case further planted the seed of doubt in most readers of this thread

[Slow death]

I understand that when court cases are in court at many casinos given the nature of the case people are advised by their lawyers not to post relevant information about the progress of the court case. but there are things that are allowed to disclose for example you could have posted information like:

1 - in which court is the case, you can mention the country and city where the court is located
 
2 - what is the case number in the court, this can also be disclosed because with this information people know that they can locate the case number to know more about the accusation that weighs on FortuneJack

3 - you can also say if the court has already notified FortuneJack to give statements in court and if they have already been convicted or not, if the trial is taking place in the lower court or has already gone to higher courts

could you post evidence showing documents that indicate the case is in court. But you didn't do any of that, so it's really hard to believe you. Note that I am not defending FortuneJack either. I'm neutral because I don't know anything about this whole story

[smyslov]

Edit: For some stupid people posting here, saying this is FUD, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details.

Unfortunately for you, by not showing anything or giving details we are going to treat this thread as another FUD, it's unlikely Fortunejack going to respond here they will choose to ignore it even if there is a court proceeding going on since they are the defendant.
Good luck with your case I cannot blame you for going through all of this, it is such a huge amount, and only the result of the case will prove if you did the right thing, that is if you really file a case in court.

[Adbitco]

But if all these statements are said to be true how come we never heard of this news for the past years, and yet they are currently running a signature campaign on the forum. Could it be that this news was only visible to you or what? Or you trying to tarnished the good image of this reputable casino. Maybe you are being paid to carry out this action or possibly you tried cheating and being caught for tricks, so looking for all possibilities to spoil their reputations.
Good Luck for your action without a concrete evidence to show us here.

[rodskee]

Edit: For some stupid people posting here, saying this is FUD, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details.

if not , then how come that you will attract support from the people here when there are no evidence to be delivered or even details?
when you are pointing gun into FJ in which one of the biggest and oldest casino in crypto, there must be evidence mate .

It seems that OP have issues with Fortunejack

Yes , check his trust list and you will see why he has been tagged for and yes he claimed to be Fortune jack scammed him .

[Coin_trader]

Edit: For some stupid people posting here, saying this is FUD, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details.

You’re burning a shit tons of money if the lawsuit is real and still ongoing because paying a lawyer for a case like this for almost 2 years will gonna cost you a lot considering the casino ToS is clearly support the case for Fortunejack.

If you are not sharing the details then what’s the sense of creating this topic? Degrading Fortunejack by using your unproven ongoing lawsuit will not gonna make any crack on Fortunejack reputation if that’s your goal since you are not sharing info about the existing case while your reputation is already ruined. Give us something to believe you or else this just a FUD. FUD means your spreading negativity without any evidence. You are denying it yet that’s exactly what you’re doing right now.

[PaperWallet]

I mean. I have got nothing against people leaving their feedback or trying to warn other about some situation going on but, if this is actually going on, OP; it does not make much sense to say all these things if you cannot even disclose proof of the alleged lawsuit (I assume it is because it would hurt your case if you did so, it is understandable).

[....]

If this is not true and you are twisting the facts, then shame on you.

I agree with these statements.

[ufaiz50]

Not clear what the OP motives are probably wanted to warn about the ongoing lawsuit against the fortunejack too make sure no other people would have a problem like this but no one is for sure but for me, if there is something like this happening and it is not yet clear, it might be safer to stay cautious on the FJ or play with only average money until the  allegations have been cleared.

[tusandii]

But if all these statements are said to be true how come we never heard of this news for the past years, and yet they are currently running a signature campaign on the forum. Could it be that this news was only visible to you or what? Or you trying to tarnished the good image of this reputable casino. Maybe you are being paid to carry out this action or possibly you tried cheating and being caught for tricks, so looking for all possibilities to spoil their reputations.
Good Luck for your action without a concrete evidence to show us here.

Yes, here I want to believe the lawsuit but it is also not feasible because there is no clear evidence of this statement.
Even as long as I have been in the crypto gambling industry I have never heard of this problem and FortuneJack is one of the casinos that has a good reputation so it is hard to believe that they have a case like this.
Whether what the OP said is right or wrong, we have to find out all the information ourselves so that there are no misunderstandings.

[ultrloa]

I am not trusting anyone on this forum to give them more details or evidence in private message, so please don't ask. I do not intend to convince most people here, since experience shows they're mostly dishonest. It's for those who followed me here for some time and know I pretty much like the truth, and for those who have some common sense reading the link of my scam accusation above.

You cannot convince people easily since so far you don't have anything to prove against the casino you accused so maybe for us to believe thay this case exist maybe try all you can to sue them and win your case. If that happen for sure the sympathy of people will shift in favor to you and those existing gamblers which still play on the casino you targeted will provably stop especially when they see your cased is so valid and been announce that they lose the case filed against them.

[coin-investor]

But if all these statements are said to be true how come we never heard of this news for the past years, and yet they are currently running a signature campaign on the forum. Could it be that this news was only visible to you or what? Or you trying to tarnished the good image of this reputable casino. Maybe you are being paid to carry out this action or possibly you tried cheating and being caught for tricks, so looking for all possibilities to spoil their reputations.
Good Luck for your action without a concrete evidence to show us here.

He already has two threads against Fortunejack he even offers to pay people just by supporting the flag he created against it and he claims to have an ongoing suit but there are no screenshots of that case or an article about the suit, we have a rule here if you are going to accuse or will bring news like this you have to show something no one here believes that there is.
The line that divides a FUD and the truth is the evidence, I hope there will be an update at the end of this year.

[PaperWallet]

He already has two threads against Fortunejack he even offers to pay people just by supporting the flag

Once a liar, always a liar. FortuneJack are as much reputable as this individual, and that is pretty much most "reputable" members here. The bitcointalk community is one of most dishonest out there. Thieves and liars. They're making money out of promoting scams, from third world countries, pretty much the same mentality that made those third world countries, and they deserve to be living there.

This thread is made though for some readers, I just don't care about most members here.

[DoublerHunter]

He already has two threads against Fortunejack he even offers to pay people just by supporting the flag

Once a liar, always a liar. FortuneJack are as much reputable as this individual, and that is pretty much most "reputable" members here. The bitcointalk community is one of most dishonest out there. Thieves and liars. They're making money out of promoting scams, from third world countries, pretty much the same mentality that made those third world countries, and they deserve to be living there.

This thread is made though for some readers, I just don't care about most members here.

^ I am not affected by what you have said because I understand people like you and what is your purpose in doing this.
The community has different opinions because we are not moderated here and we can speak freely about whatever we want. If you encourage us to believe your false story which we know also this gambling casino. Give valid evidence to support your claim and that is what you convince people here of your claim. You feel jealous of people here, are not you?

[PaperWallet]

Whether what the OP said is right or wrong, we have to find out all the information ourselves so that there are no misunderstandings.

Ok me and others here are waiting for you when you find all the information yourself, please keep us posted.

[klidex]

Not clear what the OP motives are probably wanted to warn about the ongoing lawsuit against the fortunejack too make sure no other people would have a problem like this but no one is for sure but for me, if there is something like this happening and it is not yet clear, it might be safer to stay cautious on the FJ or play with only average money until the  allegations have been cleared.

I didn't take the OP's problem too seriously, only until now I bet that FJ doesn't have any problems.
Here I don't want to side with anyone but I'm just saying from my own experience and maybe this problem is only the FJ and OP who know the truth.
I think if you say always be careful and use small amounts of money in FJ, it's only one-sided thinking.
What is more thorough is when using all online sites always use money that can afford to lose.

[PaperWallet]

I think if you say always be careful and use small amounts of money in FJ, it's only one-sided thinking.

How funny is this. Are these real humans or bots? I thought at some point there should be a CaptCha when posting to verify that every post has a human behind it. I am not seeing any of this when posting myself.

[Haunebu]

Checked your scam accusation which did seem legit, but not sharing any evidence of your ongoing lawsuit is just weird op. It negates the entire purpose of this thread which is why no one in their right mind would believe your claims.

Your negative trust ratings and your messed up attitude aren't doing you any favours op. Think!

[PaperWallet]

Checked your scam accusation which did seem legit

Are you sure? then you might want support the flag https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=303298;page=iflags

[...]but not sharing any evidence of your ongoing lawsuit is just weird op [...] and your messed up attitude aren't doing you any favours op. Think!

Thank you for pointing this out. Could you please explain what favours am I missing out on?

[Agbe]

Op since you have created Scam Accusation thread in this sub-board [ulr]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0]Scam Accusations[/url], there was no need for the creation of second thread on the same issue. That would be a thread within a thread, that is when you create a thread twice or more on the same purpose. Just like a case of double jeopardy in the court if law.

[Porfirii]

120k is really a big amount of money, but I've played before in the FortuneJack without any problem but that time I don't have around 120k and it's just around 100-300USD I think it is really different when it comes to bigger money. I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.

I have read the link in the opening post and the amount it seems that out of 200k in winnings FortuneJack only paid 95k. As ufaiz50 said, this is a really high sum and not the one the average Joe can bet, so although I have zero experience with this casino, it is a possibility that they are selectively scamming this kind of gambling whales. Little krills shouldn't worry about it, but if PaperWallet is right, then it is a shame, and speaks very badly of this casino. But I agree with Hispo also that OP should provide more proof to determine who is right.

[Yogee]

[....] but not sharing any evidence of your ongoing lawsuit is just weird op.

The question is if he's even allowed to talk about the specifics of the case? I don't think the parties involved are allowed to share that while the case is ongoing but the OP is free to correct me on this.

[....]
But I agree with Hispo also that OP should provide more proof to determine who is right.

Who would determine? Keep in mind that the lawsuit is ongoing.


I do agree with what others have said about the purpose of opening this thread. Why not just lock this for now and open once you've won the case or have entered into a favorable settlement?

[swogerino]

If casinos decide to not pay as they think the law would not enforce them,people like OP posting here about it and if found to be true are a real danger for these casinos as people will migrate to other casinos who can pay that amount without questions asked,a win is a win at whatever amount it may be as long as is valid and the player has not cheated the casino.We are hearing a lot of such stories and the good news is that the casinos who choose to pay and behave correctly to their user base in the end will be the big winners as they will get more and more players and there is the house edge in place there to make the casino profit in the long term.Any casino found not respecting winnings that are valid should be avoided.

[KiaKia]

FortuneJack is a big old casino with high reputation I heard, how true is this rumour because it's still a rumor rights, I do some research online and I can't find a single piece of news about this scam thing, I use Reddit and others, same result.

Also, I see that OP has a few red trusts and it's about someone paying up to ruin another online casino's reputation, I've read about this on the forum before and such behavior should be dealt with, to me fortune jack is clean and I won't believe this news until proven otherwise. For now, I rest this case.

Op if you don't have proof pls do lock this thread until you do, there is no point discussing this with no proof.

[PaperWallet]

If casinos decide to not pay as they think the law would not enforce them, people like OP posting here about it and if found to be true are a real danger for these casinos as people will migrate to other casinos who can pay that amount without questions asked,a win is a win at whatever amount it may be as long as is valid and the player has not cheated the casino.

Of course...

But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any? And for sure I won't because some people here ask lol.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

If casinos decide to not pay as they think the law would not enforce them, people like OP posting here about it and if found to be true are a real danger for these casinos as people will migrate to other casinos who can pay that amount without questions asked,a win is a win at whatever amount it may be as long as is valid and the player has not cheated the casino.

Of course...

But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any?

Of what use is it asking FortuneJack anything? Even if all that you said here is true, as long as it is not in the public media yet, I am 100 percent sure that FortuneJack won't divulge any of this information to their customers at all level, as they already know that this could cause panic, and their business will suffer greatly, for no doubt, they will lose customers.

Not like you owe it to any body on this forum, but its up to you to provide any evidence you have, to prove that FortuneJack has an ongoing lawsuit, maybe by you or someone you know.

[PaperWallet]

If casinos decide to not pay as they think the law would not enforce them, people like OP posting here about it and if found to be true are a real danger for these casinos as people will migrate to other casinos who can pay that amount without questions asked,a win is a win at whatever amount it may be as long as is valid and the player has not cheated the casino.

Of course...

But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any?

Of what use is it asking FortuneJack anything? Even if all that you said here is true, as long as it is not in the public media yet, I am 100 percent sure that FortuneJack won't divulge any of this information to their customers at all level, as they already know that this could cause panic, and their business will suffer greatly, for no doubt, they will lose customers.

If someone says this is FUD, then he should be asking FortuneJack if this is true or not beforehand. Me personally I've never lied here and never called anybody a liar in vain.

So what even if their business suffers, it's for the greater good of everyone else. Some people here said they want to discover for themselves so go ahead and ask. They won't be ignoring their campaign managers are they?

And I am not trying to save every customer of FortuneJack. We've seen casinos run away from their license countries before. Just the ones who believe me and deserve it. For me, no problem, it's going to be their regulator who will pay if that would be the case.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

If casinos decide to not pay as they think the law would not enforce them, people like OP posting here about it and if found to be true are a real danger for these casinos as people will migrate to other casinos who can pay that amount without questions asked,a win is a win at whatever amount it may be as long as is valid and the player has not cheated the casino.

Of course...

But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any?

Of what use is it asking FortuneJack anything? Even if all that you said here is true, as long as it is not in the public media yet, I am 100 percent sure that FortuneJack won't divulge any of this information to their customers at all level, as they already know that this could cause panic, and their business will suffer greatly, for no doubt, they will lose customers.

If someone says this is FUD, then he should be asking FortuneJack if this is true or not beforehand. Me personally I've never lied here and never called anybody a liar in vain.

So what even if their business suffers, it's for the greater good of everyone else. Some people here said they want to discover for themselves so go ahead and ask. They won't be ignoring their campaign managers are they?

And I am not trying to save every customer of FortuneJack. We've seen casinos run away from their license countries before, just the ones who believe me and deserve it. For me, no problem, it's going to be their regulator who will pay.

What ever is happening to any casino has nothing to do with the user managing their campaign.
The campaign manager is only providing a service which he or she is hired and paid to provide, how the casino itself is being managed, the decisions that are being taken, things that are implemented or not implemented, is non the campaign managers business..

Except in some rare occasions where we've seen some campaign managers become a member of the casino's board of directors, admin or so.

So if like you said, it happens that FortuneJack is really in trouble, and for some reasons, end up failing to solve the problem, the campaign manager can only close the campaign and move on with other campaigns he is currently managing, or some other new ones coming.

[dimonstration]

Of course...

But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any? And for sure I won't because some people here ask lol.

What’s the sense of creating this thread and remain open for discussion if you don’t have any intention to share more info. Asking Fortunejack about details for the topic you started is dumb and absurd. You are just using this thread to gain sympathy and use people that will believe you to question FJ integrity for a chance that they will reach you for settlement.


Don’t feed this troll. His previous statement confirms that he is just trolling FJ for his case that he can’t win. Lawsuit? Cmon.

[PaperWallet]

You are just using this thread to gain sympathy and use people that will believe you to question FJ integrity for a chance that they will reach you for settlement.

Lol really, please have sympathy, please give me a chance.

I've already said it, and I'm not a shitposter: I don't settle anything with thieves. They'll have to pay, willingly or unwillingly, all my winnings, at the same value they were on the day I won, + interest rate + legal fees, at least.

[notblox1]

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.

I had my history with fortunejack and they have some strange policies with their legal team that resulted in confiscating of my coins.
They recently sent me last email saying that my account will be closed because of inactivity after I didnt want to perform kyc verification.
It was my choice to stop using and recommending them, and I accepted my loses, but I would be real pissed if that amount was 120k.
I am not saying fj is a scam, but there are much better casinos around.

[dezoel]

Op since you have created Scam Accusation thread in this sub-board [ulr]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0]Scam Accusations[/url], there was no need for the creation of second thread on the same issue. That would be a thread within a thread, that is when you create a thread twice or more on the same purpose. Just like a case of double jeopardy in the court if law.

I think there is no issue in creating a discussion thread for something that might be a serious issue for the general public to know, and most people visit this sub-board more than the Reputation board, so such discussions can enlighten more people about everything that's going on. That being said, there is basically a difference between an accusation and a discussion on the same topic.

I checked the accusation thread, and I believe he has got evidence for what he is discussing here, and the matter is pretty serious. Those who gamble at the platform should really look this up and do their due diligence.

[iv4n]

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.

I had my history with fortunejack and they have some strange policies with their legal team that resulted in confiscating of my coins.
They recently sent me last email saying that my account will be closed because of inactivity after I didnt want to perform kyc verification.
It was my choice to stop using and recommending them, and I accepted my loses, but I would be real pissed if that amount was 120k.
I am not saying fj is a scam, but there are much better casinos around.

I stopped playing at FortuneJack on February 19, 2018. I found my thread from that time... Not a huge problem, but their support was horrible, and after that "incident" with slots I stopped playing and I never visited FJ again. I found much better casinos around, and I still think that some other casinos are better than FJ.
As Notblox1 I will not say that FJ is a scam, they had a good start, but something in their "relationship" with us players went sideways. I don't have any plans to try them again...

[Desmong]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.0


And for those who clicked on this topic, I'll give you a bonus, that I think nobody else on the internet can give you, and that could save you some cheating from online casinos (since I've got first hand information).

This post though is about my own analysis and opinion on how things could go forward from here, not a certainty.

During last year, Casinos based in Curacao (like FortuneJack) have been arguing in the court of appeal that they don't have to pay any winnings for their customers, since they think the law cannot enforce anyone to pay gambling winnings (true story, coming from "casinos"). The decision of the court of appeal has been that yes they are organisations that have to pay winnings for the games they decide to offer.

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.


Edit: For the people posting here, saying this is FUD, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details.

Edit 22/04/23: I am not trusting anyone on this forum to give them more details or evidence in private message, so please don't ask. I do not intend to convince most people here, since experience shows they're mostly dishonest. It's for those who followed me here for some time and know I pretty much like the truth, and for those who have some common sense reading the link of my scam accusation above.

This is really sad I hope everything is going to be resume soon. Well since you have decided that you will it give any evidence, no problem but everyone should ensure safety and caution on this particular case if it's eventually a truth. We need to be careful most time about how e gamble and I tend to make money from cryptocurrency casinos. We need to minimize our risks to profits.

[Fatunad]

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.

I had my history with fortunejack and they have some strange policies with their legal team that resulted in confiscating of my coins.
They recently sent me last email saying that my account will be closed because of inactivity after I didnt want to perform kyc verification.
It was my choice to stop using and recommending them, and I accepted my loses, but I would be real pissed if that amount was 120k.
I am not saying fj is a scam, but there are much better casinos around.

I stopped playing at FortuneJack on February 19, 2018. I found my thread from that time... Not a huge problem, but their support was horrible, and after that "incident" with slots I stopped playing and I never visited FJ again. I found much better casinos around, and I still think that some other casinos are better than FJ.
As Notblox1 I will not say that FJ is a scam, they had a good start, but something in their "relationship" with us players went sideways. I don't have any plans to try them again...

There's no such thing about perfect casinos on which we know that they might have been still popular or known nowadays but there are really issues or features or complaints which it makes people do make
irk and having that discouragement on playing on the site further. Yes, we arent that dumb not to distinguish between issues and some possible false whatsoever correlated which would really be destroying out their reputation but we know that there's something called a border line which on the time we do say its enough then we would really be cutting off then and would find another one.

Good thing that we do have on this market is that we do have lots or tons of options we could choose on, on which we could really be able to find another casinos to play if ever that old one
isnt really that giving that kind of confidence on staying on. When in talks about FJ reputation then i do remember those old years where they are really that one of the most
known and trusted. I dont know with the recent issues but if it seems been proven then it is really that something that they need to cleared upon.

[PaperWallet]

I stopped playing at FortuneJack on February 19, 2018. I found my thread from that time... Not a huge problem, but their support was horrible, and after that "incident" with slots I stopped playing and I never visited FJ again. I found much better casinos around, and I still think that some other casinos are better than FJ.
As Notblox1 I will not say that FJ is a scam, they had a good start, but something in their "relationship" with us players went sideways. I don't have any plans to try them again...

Depends on how you define "a scam". If it's an organisation that always scams, of course not, FortuneJack is not a scam. If a scammer is someone who sometimes scams, sometimes not, then yes they're a scam. But for most people I have to agree they're not a scam yet.

[kotajikikox]

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.

I had my history with fortunejack and they have some strange policies with their legal team that resulted in confiscating of my coins.
They recently sent me last email saying that my account will be closed because of inactivity after I didnt want to perform kyc verification.
It was my choice to stop using and recommending them, and I accepted my loses, but I would be real pissed if that amount was 120k.
I am not saying fj is a scam, but there are much better casinos around.

That would be really pissing having 120k loss just because of some issues arise and the player and site did not come to agreement .
but even before FJ is facing so many cases here in forum (if I remember it correct this is before they ended and relaunch their Signature campaign)
and just recently that here it is again some problem is being up here in forum.
still hoping that OP will resolve this case and the team will answer every details here just like how they are responding back in the years.

[Kakmakr]

FortuneJack has been around for many years, so it is strange that these things are only being reported now. I have used Google to see if there are a lot of scam accusations against them, but there are not significant complaints to justify a "scam" label. 

You are not really giving a lot of information on the lawsuit, so I cannot judge this scenario ...based on the evidence that are being provided. Do you think a long lawsuit will cost you more than the money that are owned to you?

[piebeyb]

FortuneJack has been around for many years, so it is strange that these things are only being reported now. I have used Google to see if there are a lot of scam accusations against them, but there are not significant complaints to justify a "scam" label. 

You are not really giving a lot of information on the lawsuit, so I cannot judge this scenario ...based on the evidence that are being provided. Do you think a long lawsuit will cost you more than the money that are owned to you?

I'm also still waiting for the latest news about this problem and case, I'm also a FortuneJack user for a long time and I've never even had a problem with them, the withdrawal process is done quickly and even their service support is also very responsive, but here I don't want to find out who is right since the OP also provided detailed screenshots of valid proof, no fortunejack team has come to this thread yet to respond and I hope this issue can be resolved as well so it doesn't drag on too late.

So far the OP has only made edits to the thread to share the progress of this case as of date, I have also had an eye on it and haven't played fortunejack yet as I'm still comfortable playing on Stake.com for now, the OP's account is also flagged as a scam, so it's a bit difficult trusting who is right here, let's see the final result

[PaperWallet]

What ever is happening to any casino has nothing to do with the user managing their campaign.
The campaign manager is only providing a service which he or she is hired and paid to provide, how the casino itself is being managed, the decisions that are being taken, things that are implemented or not implemented, is non the campaign managers business..

I understand. It's not in the sense that this is their job to do that, their job is only to do what they are paid for I guess, and that is to promote them.

Although not all people work the same way. Some as an example have some consciousness and reputation that they don't like promoting bad actors for money. And since many here were saying what I claim is false, I suggest that the members of the community who are campaign managers might want to ask FortuneJack to see if it's true or not. Just a suggestion. The problem is FortuneJack won't be able to lie since they can't hide it. It happened before once though when they deleted my betting history thinking I haven't taken any evidence.

[mak013]

I`m surprised. I see the FortuneJack about 5 years at least and i think that it is good casino with good reputation. I played their few times and didn`t like it but i can`t say something bad about it. I hadn`t any problems with deposit and withdraw, the bets counted correctly and i didn`t contact with the support. But it was small money.
I can`t say anything bad about casino or about the OP but as i see they both sure that they are right. In such situation i think that only the court law will decide who is to blame.

[Crypt0Gore]

I`m surprised. I see the FortuneJack about 5 years at least and i think that it is good casino with good reputation. I played their few times and didn`t like it but i can`t say something bad about it. I hadn`t any problems with deposit and withdraw, the bets counted correctly and i didn`t contact with the support. But it was small money.
I can`t say anything bad about casino or about the OP but as i see they both sure that they are right. In such situation i think that only the court law will decide who is to blame.

Do you believe that the court knows the right answer? It's very hard to tell, there is no such thing as caught in the act when it comes to online gambling casinos, even if their games are audited it still doesn't mean they won't have their way of cheating, you can never win a gambling casino when it comes to what is right and what is wrong, it's their pace, their home, their house, you can't beat them at their own game and there is no proof of anything.

Fortune Jack is not a scam until proven to be, I doubt this can be proven even if they are into scamming, I've never use the casino before and the few ones I use am satisfied with them, if Fortune Jack sucks on your end find another online casino, there are too many options this days.

[PaperWallet]

FortuneJack has been around for many years, so it is strange that these things are only being reported now. I have used Google to see if there are a lot of scam accusations against them, but there are not significant complaints to justify a "scam" label.  

You can see this report about another case here: https://www.cryptoinfowatch.com/fortunejack-when-gambling-houses-wont-pay-winnings/
No they're not scam for most people, but I know for a fact that they scammed me.

You are not really giving a lot of information on the lawsuit, so I cannot judge this scenario ...based on the evidence that are being provided. Do you think a long lawsuit will cost you more than the money that are owned to you?

No worries, the lawsuit fees are sponsored by FortuneJack, or if they run away by AntillePhone, their regulator.

[mak013]

I`m surprised. I see the FortuneJack about 5 years at least and i think that it is good casino with good reputation. I played their few times and didn`t like it but i can`t say something bad about it. I hadn`t any problems with deposit and withdraw, the bets counted correctly and i didn`t contact with the support. But it was small money.
I can`t say anything bad about casino or about the OP but as i see they both sure that they are right. In such situation i think that only the court law will decide who is to blame.

Do you believe that the court knows the right answer? It's very hard to tell, there is no such thing as caught in the act when it comes to online gambling casinos, even if their games are audited it still doesn't mean they won't have their way of cheating, you can never win a gambling casino when it comes to what is right and what is wrong, it's their pace, their home, their house, you can't beat them at their own game and there is no proof of anything.

Fortune Jack is not a scam until proven to be, I doubt this can be proven even if they are into scamming, I've never use the casino before and the few ones I use am satisfied with them, if Fortune Jack sucks on your end find another online casino, there are too many options this days.

It doesn`t matter what i believe in. If the OP works with the court - its decision will be the only truth. And, as you noticed, Fortune Jack is not a scam until proven to be. Both the OP and the casino think that they are right, so the court will solve this problem and tell us who is right. We have no other ways to make a decision.

[Mahanton]

I`m surprised. I see the FortuneJack about 5 years at least and i think that it is good casino with good reputation. I played their few times and didn`t like it but i can`t say something bad about it. I hadn`t any problems with deposit and withdraw, the bets counted correctly and i didn`t contact with the support. But it was small money.
I can`t say anything bad about casino or about the OP but as i see they both sure that they are right. In such situation i think that only the court law will decide who is to blame.

Do you believe that the court knows the right answer? It's very hard to tell, there is no such thing as caught in the act when it comes to online gambling casinos, even if their games are audited it still doesn't mean they won't have their way of cheating, you can never win a gambling casino when it comes to what is right and what is wrong, it's their pace, their home, their house, you can't beat them at their own game and there is no proof of anything.

Fortune Jack is not a scam until proven to be, I doubt this can be proven even if they are into scamming, I've never use the casino before and the few ones I use am satisfied with them, if Fortune Jack sucks on your end find another online casino, there are too many options this days.

It doesn`t matter what i believe in. If the OP works with the court - its decision will be the only truth. And, as you noticed, Fortune Jack is not a scam until proven to be. Both the OP and the casino think that they are right, so the court will solve this problem and tell us who is right. We have no other ways to make a decision.

When it comes into these conditions then it would really be just that hard on making out some conclusions specially if it does really need up some legal approach or involvement since both parties are really
giving off their reasoning which means that it would really be needing on legal decision but in overall if we do talk about FJ's history and reputation out of this forum then we know that it is one of the most
reputable and old running sites or platform on this space which it is really that hard to believe that they would be scamming out users. Yes, it does have some issues back in the past but it did really
be able to fix and resolved it out but there are really that issues arent something that could be easily be handled and resolved which it would really be resulted on something like this.
Now, lets see on how they would be handling it out considering the amount involved is a bit huge but its impossible that they would be putting up their business just for this amount.

[Yatsan]

I`m surprised. I see the FortuneJack about 5 years at least and i think that it is good casino with good reputation. I played their few times and didn`t like it but i can`t say something bad about it. I hadn`t any problems with deposit and withdraw, the bets counted correctly and i didn`t contact with the support. But it was small money.
I can`t say anything bad about casino or about the OP but as i see they both sure that they are right. In such situation i think that only the court law will decide who is to blame.

Do you believe that the court knows the right answer? It's very hard to tell, there is no such thing as caught in the act when it comes to online gambling casinos, even if their games are audited it still doesn't mean they won't have their way of cheating, you can never win a gambling casino when it comes to what is right and what is wrong, it's their pace, their home, their house, you can't beat them at their own game and there is no proof of anything.

Fortune Jack is not a scam until proven to be, I doubt this can be proven even if they are into scamming, I've never use the casino before and the few ones I use am satisfied with them, if Fortune Jack sucks on your end find another online casino, there are too many options this days.

It doesn`t matter what i believe in. If the OP works with the court - its decision will be the only truth. And, as you noticed, Fortune Jack is not a scam until proven to be. Both the OP and the casino think that they are right, so the court will solve this problem and tell us who is right. We have no other ways to make a decision.

In our country, this is the pressumption of Innocence. But I would understand those people who would already avoid this gambling platform simply because of the impression this instance have created wherein it even resulted into a lawsuit than to be solved internally IF the accusation is true. It should always be the platform to make an adjustment as much as possible but if this is a make up story against fortunejack, this would be a huge problem to both of them. On the end of casino,  through the process their players would leave because of fear, even if they are not yet proven for the mistake and even I guess even if this will just be an accusation there will be a negative image to this platform because of FOMO. On the other hand, once proven for the other way around, for sure platform would make use of all ways to compensate for their loss due to this instance.

[PaperWallet]

[...]but not sharing any evidence of your ongoing lawsuit is just weird op [...] and your messed up attitude aren't doing you any favours op. Think!

Thank you for pointing this out. Could you please explain what favours am I missing out on?

@Haunebu no answer? Seems I am not missing out on anything.

Whether what the OP said is right or wrong, we have to find out all the information ourselves so that there are no misunderstandings.

Ok me and others here are waiting for you when you find all the information yourself, please keep us posted.

Any news @tusandii? Have you found out?

A lot of the posters here just came up and posted without making any interactions with others....

there is no such thing as caught in the act when it comes to online gambling casinos

Well, they've been caught deleting my betting history, little by little, since it was unthinkable for them that I was screen recording everything on my account (which I was). This is not something a honest organisation would do to say the least.

[mak013]

It doesn`t matter what i believe in. If the OP works with the court - its decision will be the only truth. And, as you noticed, Fortune Jack is not a scam until proven to be. Both the OP and the casino think that they are right, so the court will solve this problem and tell us who is right. We have no other ways to make a decision.

When it comes into these conditions then it would really be just that hard on making out some conclusions specially if it does really need up some legal approach or involvement since both parties are really
giving off their reasoning which means that it would really be needing on legal decision but in overall if we do talk about FJ's history and reputation out of this forum then we know that it is one of the most
reputable and old running sites or platform on this space which it is really that hard to believe that they would be scamming out users. Yes, it does have some issues back in the past but it did really
be able to fix and resolved it out but there are really that issues arent something that could be easily be handled and resolved which it would really be resulted on something like this.
Now, lets see on how they would be handling it out considering the amount involved is a bit huge but its impossible that they would be putting up their business just for this amount.

Yes. On the one hand we see well-known casino and on the other hand the OP, without any reputation(it is just fact, i don`t want to see that the OP cheates us). The sum is big for the gambler but it is small enough to the casino i think and i sure that it isn`t a problem to pay it due to the court`s decision.

It doesn`t matter what i believe in. If the OP works with the court - its decision will be the only truth. And, as you noticed, Fortune Jack is not a scam until proven to be. Both the OP and the casino think that they are right, so the court will solve this problem and tell us who is right. We have no other ways to make a decision.

In our country, this is the pressumption of Innocence. But I would understand those people who would already avoid this gambling platform simply because of the impression this instance have created wherein it even resulted into a lawsuit than to be solved internally IF the accusation is true. It should always be the platform to make an adjustment as much as possible but if this is a make up story against fortunejack, this would be a huge problem to both of them. On the end of casino,  through the process their players would leave because of fear, even if they are not yet proven for the mistake and even I guess even if this will just be an accusation there will be a negative image to this platform because of FOMO. On the other hand, once proven for the other way around, for sure platform would make use of all ways to compensate for their loss due to this instance.

If the OP couldn`t solve this problem with FJ without court - it means that the both sides agrees with the court`s decision. So we have just wait a bit.
PS. I don`t think that FJ will lose lots of their gamblers. The most part even don`t know about this situation i think.

[goldkingcoiner]

OP's bets could be considered null and void as per the contract he agreed to when he signed up. As far as I know, winnings are not awarded by the casino in such cases.

Personally, I think duplicate bets should be automatically deleted or not be allowed to be made in the first place and a notification to be made to the user (Which the user cannot turn off)- but that's just a matter of user convenience. The fact remains that FJ has provably cancelled such kinds of duplicate bets in the past and has openly stated to do so in its past TOS should have given OP some kind of forewarning.

From a strictly legal standpoint, OP is in the wrong, I would think. However he claims to have opened a lawsuit so lets see how that goes.

[PaperWallet]

But I would understand those people who would already avoid this gambling platform simply because of the impression this instance have created wherein it even resulted into a lawsuit than to be solved internally IF the accusation is true.

Of course... You want someone to pay out when accepting bets right?

In our country, this is the pressumption of Innocence. But I would understand those people who would already avoid this gambling platform simply because of the impression this instance have created wherein it even resulted into a lawsuit than to be solved internally IF the accusation is true.

Which country?
Any platform accepting bets and refusing to pay is a scam, that simple. Add to it deleting a player's betting history...

[QueenVera]

I feel so bad about how people come out boldly to talk ill about the business of another and from the look of things, it seems you were paid to do or make this post against fortunejack and these were just assumptions by myself and there is no way you should come up with an account with two red trust and expect people to believe the things you say without any prove of evidence and still think so full of yourself.

If you truly want to help people pass a helping information and a very important information like this, then you should also do well to show evidence of the things you've said so far and I'm sorry if this rumor aren't true, I'm sure your account might earn more red trust from this post.

[Hamphser]

I feel so bad about how people come out boldly to talk ill about the business of another and from the look of things, it seems you were paid to do or make this post against fortunejack and these were just assumptions by myself and there is no way you should come up with an account with two red trust and expect people to believe the things you say without any prove of evidence and still think so full of yourself.

If you truly want to help people pass a helping information and a very important information like this, then you should also do well to show evidence of the things you've said so far and I'm sorry if this rumor aren't true, I'm sure your account might earn more red trust from this post.

Try to look on what link he had given on OP which is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.0
So you could see that its been merited by LoyceV which i could say that he had proven out some considerable proof.

Seeing on the link given it was indeed already 2 years ago but it turns out to be still that unresolved? Some users stating that this issue might have that private
settlement or we arent really know that its been resolved already. This is why then it would really be none of our business but its
really that good if this one had been clarified out and closed this case or issue completely but it seems we arent that going to that point.

[Outhue]

I feel so bad about how people come out boldly to talk ill about the business of another and from the look of things, it seems you were paid to do or make this post against fortunejack and these were just assumptions by myself and there is no way you should come up with an account with two red trust and expect people to believe the things you say without any prove of evidence and still think so full of yourself.

If you truly want to help people pass a helping information and a very important information like this, then you should also do well to show evidence of the things you've said so far and I'm sorry if this rumor aren't true, I'm sure your account might earn more red trust from this post.

Try to look on what link he had given on OP which is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.0
So you could see that its been merited by LoyceV which i could say that he had proven out some considerable proof.

Seeing on the link given it was indeed already 2 years ago but it turns out to be still that unresolved? Some users stating that this issue might have that private
settlement or we arent really know that its been resolved already. This is why then it would really be none of our business but its
really that good if this one had been clarified out and closed this case or issue completely but it seems we aren't that going to that point.

This person is bold for creating another thread, he can't say he never got any answer from Fortune Jack team all this while, I guess he is mad still about the loss, at first I thought someone must have paid him to ruin FortuneJack's name but that's not looking like it.

I have checked the other thread that LoyceV merited, and anyone can do the same thing, a merited post can be merited for many reasons, and most times I have seen false claims getting merited, the OP showed proof of the gambling account and that's great to be honest, anyone could have send that a merit.

But the fact is Fortune Jack is against duplicate Betting, it's on their ToS and I believe that's why they cancel OP's game even when he won, it is invalid because he broke the rules.

[LoyceV]

So you could see that its been merited by LoyceV which i could say that he had proven out some considerable proof.

Don't mistake my Merit for an endorsement. It means nothing more than "I think this post is worth reading". Draw your own conclusions.

[Cling18]

I feel so bad about how people come out boldly to talk ill about the business of another and from the look of things, it seems you were paid to do or make this post against fortunejack and these were just assumptions by myself and there is no way you should come up with an account with two red trust and expect people to believe the things you say without any prove of evidence and still think so full of yourself.

If you truly want to help people pass a helping information and a very important information like this, then you should also do well to show evidence of the things you've said so far and I'm sorry if this rumor aren't true, I'm sure your account might earn more red trust from this post.

Try to look on what link he had given on OP which is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.0
So you could see that its been merited by LoyceV which i could say that he had proven out some considerable proof.

Seeing on the link given it was indeed already 2 years ago but it turns out to be still that unresolved? Some users stating that this issue might have that private
settlement or we arent really know that its been resolved already. This is why then it would really be none of our business but its
really that good if this one had been clarified out and closed this case or issue completely but it seems we aren't that going to that point.

This person is bold for creating another thread, he can't say he never got any answer from Fortune Jack team all this while, I guess he is mad still about the loss, at first I thought someone must have paid him to ruin FortuneJack's name but that's not looking like it.

I have checked the other thread that LoyceV merited, and anyone can do the same thing, a merited post can be merited for many reasons, and most times I have seen false claims getting merited, the OP showed proof of the gambling account and that's great to be honest, anyone could have sent that a merit.

But the fact is Fortune Jack is against duplicate Betting, it's on their ToS and I believe that's why they cancel OP's game even when he won, it is invalid because he broke the rules.

Op might have been disappointed or upset about his losses which is normal but to accuse a casino of a lawsuit issue should be followed by evidence and proof to support it. FortuneJack also has the right to restrict suspicious activities that go against its TOS.
About the merit, meriting could be given because of different reasons and I don't think we should come up with a certain conclusion. Anyone could actually merit a topic if it catches their interest so I don't think there's an issue regarding that.

[PaperWallet]

PS. I don`t think that FJ will lose lots of their gamblers. The most part even don`t know about this situation i think.

Maybe, but they should know.

Seeing on the link given it was indeed already 2 years ago but it turns out to be still that unresolved?

Sometimes lawsuits take time, especially if FortuneJack has chosen the slowest lawyer in the country. But no problem I'd consider I've loaned them the money and they would pay for the interest.


It's been more than a week that I've posted this. A lot of people came here, interested about this subject, some said they will discover for themselves, some said this is FUD, but we haven't heard since then from any of them what is the truth.
Guys, just ask FortuneJack, let's see what they say, right?

[mak013]

PS. I don`t think that FJ will lose lots of their gamblers. The most part even don`t know about this situation i think.

Maybe, but they should know.

Yes, i agree. They can do thier choice themselves, but it will be easier and more honest with the information about incidents like yours. It is possible that it will stop someone. Anyway it is feedback from the gambler and the others gamblers must know about such situations.
May be i missed, but have you any information when the court will show their decision?

[Haunebu]

From a strictly legal standpoint, OP is in the wrong, I would think. However he claims to have opened a lawsuit so lets see how that goes.

If he actually did open a lawsuit, it most probably won't go his way since FJ is a big gambling site with a strong legal team to help defend themselves. He is basically gambling against a gambling site who have a huge edge against him.

Guys, just ask FortuneJack, let's see what they say, right?

I don't think they are going to respond to your bold claims in this thread frankly speaking.

[davis196]

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.


Edit: For the people posting here, saying this is FUD, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details.

1.Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. If FortuneJack had really stolen 120K USD, this must be proven by the prosecutors.
2.Almost every major company has to deal with one or more lawsuits. This is something normal in the business world.
3.I'm completely aware of all the dirty tricks some casinos(not all of them) use to block certain users and to forbid withdrawals.
And so what? Just deposit small amounts of crypto and gamble for fun. Don't expect and win big and don't view gambling as a money making method.

[PaperWallet]

Guys, just ask FortuneJack, let's see what they say, right?

I don't think they are going to respond to your bold claims in this thread frankly speaking.

Why not? Some here seem to be interested in this subject, so they might just try and ask. You might as well try asking Sir Hhampuz.

2.Almost every major company has to deal with one or more lawsuits. This is something normal in the business world.

What reputable online casino has a lawsuit for not paying winnings? In Curacao it happened before "due to terms and conditions", and they paid a much higher price with lawsuits. Some of them flew from Curacao and it was their regulator who had to pay the price.

May be i missed, but have you any information when the court will show their decision?

I am not giving details about the lawsuit, but even if I had information, a lot of the times the judgement can be postponed. As an example, the appeal court decision I have talked about in my original post has been postponed about 6 times, each time postponed for one month...

"I think this post is worth reading".

Why you think it is worth reading?

[aioc]

It's been more than a week that I've posted this. A lot of people came here, interested about this subject, some said they will discover for themselves, some said this is FUD, but we haven't heard since then from any of them what is the truth.
Guys, just ask FortuneJack, let's see what they say, right?

I don't think they will come down to address this issue, because they know that when the case is already in court both parties are not allowed to say the merit of the case, are you aware of a gag order

A court order forbidding parties in a legal action, lawyers, witnesses, and jurors, from making statements to the press regarding an ongoing case in which they are participating.

, if you really file it you should not talk about the case is your lawyer aware of your posts if he is he will not allow you to talk about it, and if you cannot show anything this is just a FUD.
And Fortunejack knows better not fall for this trick.

[klidex]

Op might have been disappointed or upset about his losses which is normal but to accuse a casino of a lawsuit issue should be followed by evidence and proof to support it. FortuneJack also has the right to restrict suspicious activities that go against its TOS.
About the merit, meriting could be given because of different reasons and I don't think we should come up with a certain conclusion. Anyone could actually merit a topic if it catches their interest so I don't think there's an issue regarding that.

It wasn't just Ops that were disappointed when they lost $120k and that's a huge amount bro.
I think the Op has provided evidence in his thread of accusations and this is still a pro and con when from FJ's side there is no answer yet and everything will be proven for example an FJ representative co-wrote a reply in this thread and makes it all clear who is right and who is wrong.
About merit anyone can give that which he thinks deserves to be given merit doesn't mean support and I can also give everyone merit here doesn't mean supporting this thread but just reading this discussion it's very good.

[mak013]

May be i missed, but have you any information when the court will show their decision?

I am not giving details about the lawsuit, but even if I had information, a lot of the times the judgement can be postponed. As an example, the appeal court decision I have talked about in my original post has been postponed about 6 times, each time postponed for one month...

I understand this situation and i don`t ask any private information. But i think it would be correct to inform the members about the result. I think that information about appeals not so value, but the result decision of the court we must know. And it doesn`t matter who will win - if you decided to move to the court we have to believe their decision.

[ultrloa]

May be i missed, but have you any information when the court will show their decision?

I am not giving details about the lawsuit, but even if I had information, a lot of the times the judgement can be postponed. As an example, the appeal court decision I have talked about in my original post has been postponed about 6 times, each time postponed for one month...

I understand this situation and i don`t ask any private information. But i think it would be correct to inform the members about the result. I think that information about appeals not so value, but the result decision of the court we must know. And it doesn`t matter who will win - if you decided to move to the court we have to believe their decision.

Agree since how would people believe this if there's no update regarding on the lawsuit filed against them? Its like he just want people to believe that there something like that to happen and no question or update will be ask since you just need to believe him. That's crazy action and people will not gonna buy that since people need to see some information show before they believe on their accusation against the platform.

[PaperWallet]

May be i missed, but have you any information when the court will show their decision?

I am not giving details about the lawsuit, but even if I had information, a lot of the times the judgement can be postponed. As an example, the appeal court decision I have talked about in my original post has been postponed about 6 times, each time postponed for one month...

I understand this situation and i don`t ask any private information. But i think it would be correct to inform the members about the result. I think that information about appeals not so value, but the result decision of the court we must know. And it doesn`t matter who will win - if you decided to move to the court we have to believe their decision.

Sure no problem, once this issue is settled from the legal side, I will be giving all the information.
I will be posting it here in this thread.

Of course all of us (including FortuneJack and me) should accept the decision whatever it may be.

I think the Op has provided evidence in his thread of accusations and this is still a pro and con when from FJ's side there is no answer yet and everything will be proven for example an FJ representative co-wrote a reply in this thread and makes it all clear who is right and who is wrong.

Yeah that's what I said many times, let the FortuneJack representative come here and say if this is true or not.

[o48o]

What are we supposed to do with this? When you state in the first post that you will offer no proof or even details. Why would we believe you? That's not how arguments or accusations works. Should we believe all the fud in the internet without any proof? I am assuming that you wouldn't so why are you expecting us to do so?

I am really baffled why would you see people being so gullible that they would just take your word blindly. Unless this is just fud, when it makes total sense. And it's a simplest answer to the question if you are lying or not.

[Desmong]

For a gambling platform to have a lawsuit does not mean that the casino is not good for other gamblers to use and make bets. Lawsuit is a normal thing as this business may concern because I don't see anything wrong for a company to have a lawsuit or a matter in the court. Same thing happens when stake was taken to court and many were think of reducing the rate at which they make bets on the platform.

[Lanatsa]

May be i missed, but have you any information when the court will show their decision?

I am not giving details about the lawsuit, but even if I had information, a lot of the times the judgement can be postponed. As an example, the appeal court decision I have talked about in my original post has been postponed about 6 times, each time postponed for one month...

I understand this situation and i don`t ask any private information. But i think it would be correct to inform the members about the result. I think that information about appeals not so value, but the result decision of the court we must know. And it doesn`t matter who will win - if you decided to move to the court we have to believe their decision.

Agree since how would people believe this if there's no update regarding on the lawsuit filed against them? Its like he just want people to believe that there something like that to happen and no question or update will be ask since you just need to believe him. That's crazy action and people will not gonna buy that since people need to see some information show before they believe on their accusation against the platform.

I do able to read up that there are some sayings that they might be having that negotiations in behind which is really that far into public. If ever its been done like that then OP should at least having the time on
telling the public on whats happening so that discussions and speculations would be stopped into this thread and would move on. It is really just that it do really sucks on  seeing that a known casino is having this kind of issue.
I did remember that FJ wayback did have some huge issues but able to resolve it out, this is the main important thing on which a casino could able to do on where they do able to resolved out things
if users do able to experience some issues or whatever that give out some problem. Now we are just keep on speculating and telling repetitive things which we dont
even know if this issue is over now or what.

[PaperWallet]

For a gambling platform to have a lawsuit does not mean that the casino is not good for other gamblers to use and make bets.

No wonder coming from someone like you who supports 1xbit.com, so of course scamming some gamblers doesn't mean that it is not good for other gamblers, seems logic.

OP should at least having the time on telling the public on whats happening so that discussions and speculations would be stopped into this thread and would move on.

There is no need to speculate, once the legal side is settled, I will come here and post what the result was. But there is someone for sure who can come here and comment and end speculations right now about what's happening, it's @FortuneJack. Seems like he doesn't want to.

[mak013]

I understand this situation and i don`t ask any private information. But i think it would be correct to inform the members about the result. I think that information about appeals not so value, but the result decision of the court we must know. And it doesn`t matter who will win - if you decided to move to the court we have to believe their decision.

Agree since how would people believe this if there's no update regarding on the lawsuit filed against them? Its like he just want people to believe that there something like that to happen and no question or update will be ask since you just need to believe him. That's crazy action and people will not gonna buy that since people need to see some information show before they believe on their accusation against the platform.

It is possible that someone, who just begin to gamble will not risk and choose the other casino. He willn`t make any research - just negative feedback and the gambler chooses another casino.
But anyway we need this information and the result of the court, such situations are possible for any casino and we must know about it and the reaction of the casino support can help us to make a decision about the casino.

[JooBra]

I understand this situation and i don`t ask any private information. But i think it would be correct to inform the members about the result. I think that information about appeals not so value, but the result decision of the court we must know. And it doesn`t matter who will win - if you decided to move to the court we have to believe their decision.

Agree since how would people believe this if there's no update regarding on the lawsuit filed against them? Its like he just want people to believe that there something like that to happen and no question or update will be ask since you just need to believe him. That's crazy action and people will not gonna buy that since people need to see some information show before they believe on their accusation against the platform.

It is possible that someone, who just begin to gamble will not risk and choose the other casino. He willn`t make any research - just negative feedback and the gambler chooses another casino.
But anyway we need this information and the result of the court, such situations are possible for any casino and we must know about it and the reaction of the casino support can help us to make a decision about the casino.

We should just assume they are innocent until proven wrong. Many things can happen when funds are stolen. Fund are stolen from banks on regular bases and we still use them, so lets see first what will the court say.

[mak013]

I understand this situation and i don`t ask any private information. But i think it would be correct to inform the members about the result. I think that information about appeals not so value, but the result decision of the court we must know. And it doesn`t matter who will win - if you decided to move to the court we have to believe their decision.

Agree since how would people believe this if there's no update regarding on the lawsuit filed against them? Its like he just want people to believe that there something like that to happen and no question or update will be ask since you just need to believe him. That's crazy action and people will not gonna buy that since people need to see some information show before they believe on their accusation against the platform.

It is possible that someone, who just begin to gamble will not risk and choose the other casino. He willn`t make any research - just negative feedback and the gambler chooses another casino.
But anyway we need this information and the result of the court, such situations are possible for any casino and we must know about it and the reaction of the casino support can help us to make a decision about the casino.

We should just assume they are innocent until proven wrong. Many things can happen when funds are stolen. Fund are stolen from banks on regular bases and we still use them, so lets see first what will the court say.

Yep, i`m talking about it several posts. But the same time we mustn`t think that the OP wants to slander the casino. And we must understand that if casino fills itself normally, even if the court makes them to pay, the gambler that lost(at least in the moment) his money can`t be calm in the process.
Lets just wait for decision and everybody can make his own choice due to information that he can get here too.

[coin-investor]

OP should at least having the time on telling the public on whats happening so that discussions and speculations would be stopped into this thread and would move on.

There is no need to speculate, once the legal side is settled, I will come here and post what the result was. But there is someone for sure who can come here and comment and end speculations right now about what's happening, it's @FortuneJack. Seems like he doesn't want to.

This could be a long case battle and many of the posts here will be redundant, so why not lock this thread and wait for the resolution of the case, this is not a third-party arbitration where the result can be accepted or not and there is a time frame.

In court, you have to abide by the resolution whether you like it or not or you will be contempt if you do not abide, and there's no specific time frame, the resolution could be delayed depending on how both parties handed their pieces of evidence, so good luck to you, I'm sure this case is being followed by Fortunejack and will try to find loopholes in your case.

[borovichok]

Yep, i`m talking about it several posts. But the same time we mustn`t think that the OP wants to slander the casino. And we must understand that if casino fills itself normally, even if the court makes them to pay, the gambler that lost(at least in the moment) his money can`t be calm in the process.
Lets just wait for decision and everybody can make his own choice due to information that he can get here too.

Consequently, everyone believes varies on the matter, we need to stand strong and be able to acknowledge what's wrong with casino site. Everyone gathered and introduced different ideas based on their perspective on the matter. Depending on the likelihood of the court, the lawsuit may be won or their terms charged with a minimum penalty. Jumping to conclusions is not the way to tackle issues, especially those that require the public's entire undivided attention. They are not found guilty until the court rules against their actions and their presence in the gambling system.

[QueenVera]

For a gambling platform to have a lawsuit does not mean that the casino is not good for other gamblers to use and make bets. Lawsuit is a normal thing as this business may concern because I don't see anything wrong for a company to have a lawsuit or a matter in the court. Same thing happens when stake was taken to court and many were think of reducing the rate at which they make bets on the platform.

You're right and one thing I hate is seeing people spreading fear especially  about another ones business and i don't see any problem with gambling  on a casino platform that has a lawsuit and I think it is even more safer to gamble on those platforms because the casino wouldn't want to play any silly games not when the legal eyes of the court are already on them 🤔
The casino has a case in court and who knows if the case might even get to be in their favour but whatever the case might be, please I think this thread should be locked and ill talks shouldn't be spoken of another's effort and business.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

For a gambling platform to have a lawsuit does not mean that the casino is not good for other gamblers to use and make bets. Lawsuit is a normal thing as this business may concern because I don't see anything wrong for a company to have a lawsuit or a matter in the court. Same thing happens when stake was taken to court and many were think of reducing the rate at which they make bets on the platform.

You're right and one thing I hate is seeing people spreading fear especially  about another ones business and i don't see any problem with gambling  on a casino platform that has a lawsuit and I think it is even more safer to gamble on those platforms because the casino wouldn't want to play any silly games not when the legal eyes of the court are already on them 🤔
The casino has a case in court and who knows if the case might even get to be in their favour but whatever the case might be, please I think this thread should be locked and ill talks shouldn't be spoken of another's effort and business.

You do have a point when you said that is even saver to gamble on a casino that have a lawsuit against them, simply because they wouldn't want to play any silly tricks with any user's winnings since they already have the eyes of the law on them - very true.

But on the other hand, playing on a casino that has a lawsuit ongoing against them can only be considered save to some degree , if the casino in question is a big name in the gambling industry, at least, users are rest assured that there is enough money for the legal battle, for a small casino, maybe one that is just starting out and the owner(s) not somebody with so much wealth, a lawsuit could easily end the business, most especially, if the matter is not ruled in the favor of the casino at the end of the day.

[Porfirii]

For a gambling platform to have a lawsuit does not mean that the casino is not good for other gamblers to use and make bets. Lawsuit is a normal thing as this business may concern because I don't see anything wrong for a company to have a lawsuit or a matter in the court. Same thing happens when stake was taken to court and many were think of reducing the rate at which they make bets on the platform.

You're right and one thing I hate is seeing people spreading fear especially  about another ones business and i don't see any problem with gambling  on a casino platform that has a lawsuit and I think it is even more safer to gamble on those platforms because the casino wouldn't want to play any silly games not when the legal eyes of the court are already on them 🤔
The casino has a case in court and who knows if the case might even get to be in their favour but whatever the case might be, please I think this thread should be locked and ill talks shouldn't be spoken of another's effort and business.

I understand your reasoning but I don't fully agree with it. Of course that a lawsuit, until a decision is made by the judge, doesn't mean or prove guilty that casino and we shouldn't demonise it only because of that.

FortuneJack may be a better casino than many others who are less known and don't have any lawsuits yet. But it is indeed a red flag to be taken into account, just in case, so I don't think we should censor this debate as long as it is not shown to be deceitfully started by the OP.

[Taskford]

For a gambling platform to have a lawsuit does not mean that the casino is not good for other gamblers to use and make bets. Lawsuit is a normal thing as this business may concern because I don't see anything wrong for a company to have a lawsuit or a matter in the court. Same thing happens when stake was taken to court and many were think of reducing the rate at which they make bets on the platform.

You're right and one thing I hate is seeing people spreading fear especially  about another ones business and i don't see any problem with gambling  on a casino platform that has a lawsuit and I think it is even more safer to gamble on those platforms because the casino wouldn't want to play any silly games not when the legal eyes of the court are already on them 🤔
The casino has a case in court and who knows if the case might even get to be in their favour but whatever the case might be, please I think this thread should be locked and ill talks shouldn't be spoken of another's effort and business.

I understand your reasoning but I don't fully agree with it. Of course that a lawsuit, until a decision is made by the judge, doesn't mean or prove guilty that casino and we shouldn't demonise it only because of that.

FortuneJack may be a better casino than many others who are less known and don't have any lawsuits yet. But it is indeed a red flag to be taken into account, just in case, so I don't think we should censor this debate as long as it is not shown to be deceitfully started by the OP.

Its like they are still innocent about that until they are proven guilty so maybe lets wait for the result on this case since if proven that FJ got defeated on the filed case then maybe OP's warning are so valid. But if not and we cannot see any case proceed then maybe this is another case of a certain people trolling up a casino since they want to destroy the reputation of casino which they not fair on their eyes. But we know FJ is reputable casino so I guess its up for the updates given before people believes on his claims about FJ.

[dimonstration]

For a gambling platform to have a lawsuit does not mean that the casino is not good for other gamblers to use and make bets. Lawsuit is a normal thing as this business may concern because I don't see anything wrong for a company to have a lawsuit or a matter in the court. Same thing happens when stake was taken to court and many were think of reducing the rate at which they make bets on the platform.

Lawsuit is not common in online casino because the only way customer will file a lawsuit is when he is confident enough to his case. Typical issue of the casino always solved via the forum, 3rd party gambling arbitrage or Curacao report. What common instances is casino always have an active scam accusation in the forum.

A lawsuit will automatically junk if there’s no basis on the case. So if the casino has a an active lawsuit therefore something is really wrong. But on this case. OP is just full of BS because he can’t provide any evidence for having one. I doubt too that he will waste money on lawsuit while his case is very obvious against casino terms and conditions for doing double same bets to rigged the casino.

[PaperWallet]

For a gambling platform to have a lawsuit does not mean that the casino is not good for other gamblers to use and make bets. Lawsuit is a normal thing as this business may concern because I don't see anything wrong for a company to have a lawsuit or a matter in the court. Same thing happens when stake was taken to court and many were think of reducing the rate at which they make bets on the platform.

Lawsuit is not common in online casino because the only way customer will file a lawsuit is when he is confident enough to his case.

Exactly, especially when the lawyer taking the case is a very well known lawyer.

What common instances is casino always have an active scam accusation in the forum.

In instances where you have some scammers like FortuneJack who think they're smarter than God Himself.

So if the casino has a an active lawsuit therefore something is really wrong.

Exactly, but it depends. If the casino has an active lawsuit because it is not paying winnings, then yes something is really wrong. But you don't have to go that far to say something is really wrong. Just check the link in my original post, and see for yourself. You don't need a judge to say this is theft, but I guess I'll have to take it to the judge.


PS: Up to this day, no one seems to have contacted FortuneJack to know if this is true or not, especially among those who doubt what I say. Hey you guys who are doubting, where are you? Have you seen for yourself if this is true or not?

[mak013]

Yep, i`m talking about it several posts. But the same time we mustn`t think that the OP wants to slander the casino. And we must understand that if casino fills itself normally, even if the court makes them to pay, the gambler that lost(at least in the moment) his money can`t be calm in the process.
Lets just wait for decision and everybody can make his own choice due to information that he can get here too.

Consequently, everyone believes varies on the matter, we need to stand strong and be able to acknowledge what's wrong with casino site. Everyone gathered and introduced different ideas based on their perspective on the matter. Depending on the likelihood of the court, the lawsuit may be won or their terms charged with a minimum penalty. Jumping to conclusions is not the way to tackle issues, especially those that require the public's entire undivided attention. They are not found guilty until the court rules against their actions and their presence in the gambling system.

Dude, i read you post three times but i don`t understand what do you want to say.
If we are talking about the court - the OP decided to accept the court decision. It means that he spend time and money in something that he believes in. And in such situation there are no choice - the both sides will agree with the court`s decision. And even if the court decides that the casino is right - it is rare situation when the gamblers goes to the court.

[PaperWallet]

And even if the court decides that the casino is right - it is rare situation when the gamblers goes to the court.

They have no chance…. Their only chance is to flee Curaçao and leave the bill up to their regulator to pay.

I had my history with fortunejack and they have some strange policies with their legal team that resulted in confiscating of my coins.
[…]
It was my choice to stop using and recommending them, and I accepted my loses, but I would be real pissed if that amount was 120k.

Thank you for sharing.

[Slow death]

You didn't answer what I asked you and that's why I had to read and reread all 7 pages of this thread:

FortuneJack making 120,000 dollars disappear from my account!

and I couldn't understand one thing: you managed to withdraw your winnings from the bet that you won, I'm not talking about the 3 bets that were cancelled, I'm talking about the only bet that they didn't cancel.

now talking about legal terms, I noticed that in your scam accusation thread you mentioned that the case is in the court of curacao, from what I could read in the accusation thread, if I were you I would be very careful with what your or any lawyer if it gives you any hope that you can win this case, I'm not on the side of the casino, but I need you to see that despite having a strange TOS at that time ( I don't know if today is different ) their TOS is very clear and gives them the right to proceed as they proceeded in your case regarding the bets you placed

at least up to this point i haven't seen anything scamming and in no court will they lose this case, because just look at their arguments in the scam accusation thread and evidence they showed then it's clear that they are not wrong about the procedure of the 3 bets that were canceled and also the limit of 100,000$. You would only have a case of being accused of a scam if, after they put the money from your win of less than 100,000$, you were unable to withdraw that money.

I believe that in court when they present what they posted on this forum the judge will only have one question: did you manage to withdraw the money you won from a bet after they canceled the other 3 bets? as soon as you answer that yes you did withdraw and you didn't have any problem withdrawing then the case will be closed, the problem is that you are spending years with a lawyer, and you know that their TOS was already that crooked way before you created an account, you are wasting time and money on this case

but anyway, the money is yours, just be careful not to be disappointed in the end

[PaperWallet]

You didn't answer what I asked you and that's why I had to read and reread all 7 pages of this thread:

FortuneJack making 120,000 dollars disappear from my account!

Sorry to hear you had to read and reread all 7 pages of that thread. How many times you read it?

I understand your reasoning but I don't fully agree with it. Of course that a lawsuit, until a decision is made by the judge, doesn't mean or prove guilty that casino and we shouldn't demonise it

I also understand your point, but just tell me about a sportsbook that’s not a scam that has a lawsuit for unpaid winnings… This is unheard of. There are some very well known casinos out there to choose from and while awaiting what will happen with this case there’s not a single reason to use Fortunejack. On my side I just don’t care if they go bankrupt because it will be their regulator who will pay the bill.

[dezoel]

For a gambling platform to have a lawsuit does not mean that the casino is not good for other gamblers to use and make bets. Lawsuit is a normal thing as this business may concern because I don't see anything wrong for a company to have a lawsuit or a matter in the court. Same thing happens when stake was taken to court and many were think of reducing the rate at which they make bets on the platform.

Lawsuit is not common in online casino because the only way customer will file a lawsuit is when he is confident enough to his case. Typical issue of the casino always solved via the forum, 3rd party gambling arbitrage or Curacao report. What common instances is casino always have an active scam accusation in the forum.

A lawsuit will automatically junk if there’s no basis on the case. So if the casino has a an active lawsuit therefore something is really wrong. But on this case. OP is just full of BS because he can’t provide any evidence for having one. I doubt too that he will waste money on lawsuit while his case is very obvious against casino terms and conditions for doing double same bets to rigged the casino.

Maybe it is common but we are not aware of it because our forum has no section for lawsuit, just a scam accuse. The number of scam accuse is more than the lawsuit because it is easy to post it and it was only free but lawsuit has a big money involved and the only one that can do it are the whale gamblers because they can gamble huge amounts.

I totally agree on what @Desmong said. Not all sites that has a lawsuit are now dangerous to access but maybe there is only a miss understanding between the player and the casino owner. We can just continue playing there are long as the site is still proven to be legit and the lawsuit issue will just be resolved later on. Stake got a lawsuit too before but they are still standing strong.

[PaperWallet]

Stake got a lawsuit too before but they are still standing strong.

Got a lawsuit about what? About not paying winnings? Of course not. Stake is a respectable website.

[QueenVera]

I understand this situation and i don`t ask any private information. But i think it would be correct to inform the members about the result. I think that information about appeals not so value, but the result decision of the court we must know. And it doesn`t matter who will win - if you decided to move to the court we have to believe their decision.

Agree since how would people believe this if there's no update regarding on the lawsuit filed against them? Its like he just want people to believe that there something like that to happen and no question or update will be ask since you just need to believe him. That's crazy action and people will not gonna buy that since people need to see some information show before they believe on their accusation against the platform.

It is possible that someone, who just begin to gamble will not risk and choose the other casino. He willn`t make any research - just negative feedback and the gambler chooses another casino.
But anyway we need this information and the result of the court, such situations are possible for any casino and we must know about it and the reaction of the casino support can help us to make a decision about the casino.

We should just assume they are innocent until proven wrong. Many things can happen when funds are stolen. Fund are stolen from banks on regular bases and we still use them, so lets see first what will the court say.

The rate  at which many people speak so ill about the business  of others and internationally  create fear about other leioles effort is already getting very alarming.
I think op has already earned  a red trust from this very post and I hope we all learn from this act and make proper investigations before spreading  fear about the business of another man and I also agree with other users who boldly said that banks steal money regularly  from us and yet we still trust them with our monies.
Fortunejack has been a very reputable  casino and over the years has shown commitment and there is no need spreading  fear simply because they have a lawsuit against them as who knows if they might be given victory in court.

[PaperWallet]

I had my history with fortunejack and they have some strange policies with their legal team that resulted in confiscating of my coins.
[…]
It was my choice to stop using and recommending them, and I accepted my loses, but I would be real pissed if that amount was 120k.

Did you write about your experience in this forum? I checked your profile but didn’t see this.

[mak013]

I understand this situation and i don`t ask any private information. But i think it would be correct to inform the members about the result. I think that information about appeals not so value, but the result decision of the court we must know. And it doesn`t matter who will win - if you decided to move to the court we have to believe their decision.

Agree since how would people believe this if there's no update regarding on the lawsuit filed against them? Its like he just want people to believe that there something like that to happen and no question or update will be ask since you just need to believe him. That's crazy action and people will not gonna buy that since people need to see some information show before they believe on their accusation against the platform.

It is possible that someone, who just begin to gamble will not risk and choose the other casino. He willn`t make any research - just negative feedback and the gambler chooses another casino.
But anyway we need this information and the result of the court, such situations are possible for any casino and we must know about it and the reaction of the casino support can help us to make a decision about the casino.

We should just assume they are innocent until proven wrong. Many things can happen when funds are stolen. Fund are stolen from banks on regular bases and we still use them, so lets see first what will the court say.

The rate  at which many people speak so ill about the business  of others and internationally  create fear about other leioles effort is already getting very alarming.
I think op has already earned  a red trust from this very post and I hope we all learn from this act and make proper investigations before spreading  fear about the business of another man and I also agree with other users who boldly said that banks steal money regularly  from us and yet we still trust them with our monies.
Fortunejack has been a very reputable  casino and over the years has shown commitment and there is no need spreading  fear simply because they have a lawsuit against them as who knows if they might be given victory in court.

I can`t agree with you. Of course everyone must decide by himself about trust, but the OP didn`t just created thread, he went to the court and spent time and money to prove his accusation. The result will show who is right, but i think that there is nothing to give red trust to the OP in this situation.

[benalexis12]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.0


And for those who clicked on this topic, I'll give you a bonus, that I think nobody else on the internet can give you, and that could save you some cheating from online casinos (since I've got first hand information).

This post though is about my own analysis and opinion on how things could go forward from here, not a certainty.

During last year, Casinos based in Curacao (like FortuneJack) have been arguing in the court of appeal that they don't have to pay any winnings for their customers, since they think the law cannot enforce anyone to pay gambling winnings (true story, coming from "casinos"). The decision of the court of appeal has been that yes they are organisations that have to pay winnings for the games they decide to offer.

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.


Edit: For the people posting here, saying this is FUD, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details.

Edit 22/04/23: I am not trusting anyone on this forum to give them more details or evidence in private message, so please don't ask. I do not intend to convince most people here, since experience shows they're mostly dishonest. It's for those who followed me here for some time and know I pretty much like the truth, and for those who have some common sense reading the link of my scam accusation above.

By the way, if you don't have the confidence to tell the whole story of what happened to you, why did you make another topic here in the forum when you appealed the scam accusation? Now what do you want to release on the topic you have already created this. Why don't you just wait for the result of the complaint to find out if the investigation will be in your favor. Then I can say that Fortunejack has a reputation here in crypto gambling because it has been here for several years to be honest.

[PaperWallet]

Why don't you just wait for the result of the complaint to find out if the investigation will be in your favor.

What investigation?

OP didn`t just created thread, he went to the court and spent time and money to prove his accusation. The result will show who is right.

Yes, I will be posting the result here. This might take time though.


But a settlement is very unlikely, since it seems the same people who took half my winnings in 2021 are still running Fortunejack now. Now they want to pay half of the remaining half lol. That’s how you know it’s still run by the same people. It’s the guy who always wants to pay half lol.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Edit: For the people posting here, saying this is FUD, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details.

Edit 22/04/23: I am not trusting anyone on this forum to give them more details or evidence in private message, so please don't ask. I do not intend to convince most people here, since experience shows they're mostly dishonest. It's for those who followed me here for some time and know I pretty much like the truth, and for those who have some common sense reading the link of my scam accusation above.

So, you are talking rubbish. If you don't like this forum so much, and most of us are so dishonest, I don't know why you want to get merit for spreading FUD on FortuneJack.

The rate  at which many people speak so ill about the business  of others and internationally  create fear about other leioles effort is already getting very alarming.
I think op has already earned  a red trust from this very post <...>

I can`t agree with you. Of course everyone must decide by himself about trust, but the OP didn`t just created thread, he went to the court and spent time and money to prove his accusation. The result will show who is right, but i think that there is nothing to give red trust to the OP in this situation.

Well, OP earned red trust prior to this thread. The two negative feedbacks he has and the neutral one from a DT saying he has put him on ignore don't say very well about him.

[mak013]

The rate  at which many people speak so ill about the business  of others and internationally  create fear about other leioles effort is already getting very alarming.
I think op has already earned  a red trust from this very post <...>

I can`t agree with you. Of course everyone must decide by himself about trust, but the OP didn`t just created thread, he went to the court and spent time and money to prove his accusation. The result will show who is right, but i think that there is nothing to give red trust to the OP in this situation.

Well, OP earned red trust prior to this thread. The two negative feedbacks he has and the neutral one from a DT saying he has put him on ignore don't say very well about him.

I read all his trust feedbacks. And i can`t say that all of them are talking the same thing. So, i`d prefer to believe trusted feedbacks. And here we see one feedback from Hhampuz(date 2021-11-11) about this situation. And this situation wasn`t solved yet.
The second feedback was a year ago. It is serious enough, but it is surely was not created due to this thread.

[PaperWallet]

So, you are talking rubbish. If you don't like this forum so much, and most of us are so dishonest

The few here who are honest and know I am too, are the main target of this thread. Of course if you don’t like it you might want to check other more interesting subjects (same goes for many here). I don’t expect though that you would understand half of the story since you can’t do better for a living than participating in signature campaigns for shitposting on the Internet.

From a strictly legal standpoint, OP is in the wrong, I would think. However he claims to have opened a lawsuit so lets see how that goes.

Fortunejack had been giving some creative fancy interpretations to their terms and conditions to justify stealing from me.

On the other hand, even if their terms and conditions were to be interpreted as they want to, they have acted against the dutsch civil code by not making their terms and conditions’ authenticity sufficiently warranted. They could have added those terms after my win, who knows (and boy they would be that bad even in trying to fraud). Respected companies send their terms and conditions to customers by email.

[AussieMat]

I bet on sports and I’ve never heard of such a thing. When I bet and my bets are « accepted », I expect to be paid! This is so disgusting. This sportsbetting website should have his license revoked and be liquidated until all customers are paid.

[Outhue]

So you are really offered money for opposing an online gambling network? Why are you people this cruel? How much is worth of you to destroy something that someone has worked so hard to accomplish?

If truly Fortune Jack is not a reliable online gambling website why are the complaints coming from new accounts only? I have to use Fortune Jack few times now and I don't have any problem, that's why I keep promoting, if something is off someone that's well ranked on this forum will have raised an alarm.

For the fact that some bad actors are paying people like OP to destroy the imagine of any online gambling platform is disgusting, change your ways people, karma is for real and it's a Bitch.

[PaperWallet]

Stake got a lawsuit too before but they are still standing strong.

Got a lawsuit about what? About not paying winnings? Of course not. Stake is a respectable website.

Hi Dezoel,
Could you please elaborate more on this? I googled it and found nothing but about a lawsuit on stake.com from a partner. Nothing about a player suing stake.com for not paying winnings.

[Beparanf]

Stake got a lawsuit too before but they are still standing strong.

Got a lawsuit about what? About not paying winnings? Of course not. Stake is a respectable website.

Hi Dezoel,
Could you please elaborate more on this? I googled it and found nothing but about a lawsuit on stake.com. Nothing about a player suing stake.com for not paying winnings.

The most popular lawsuit against Stake owner is a civil court action by their previous co-owner of Primedice for misleading to not invest on Stake but there is no popular or known active lawsuit against Stake so far that bing broadcast.

Probably he is pertaining to that lawsuit https://www.smh.com.au/business/entrepreneurship/desperate-attempt-stake-com-founders-hit-with-580-million-lawsuit-20220901-p5belg.html#:~:text=The%20Australian%20founders%20of%20the,of%20the%20hugely%20successful%20business. since this topic become popular discussion on gambling section when it was newly released by news outlet.

[qwertyup23]

So you are really offered money for opposing an online gambling network? Why are you people this cruel? How much is worth of you to destroy something that someone has worked so hard to accomplish?

If truly Fortune Jack is not a reliable online gambling website why are the complaints coming from new accounts only? I have to use Fortune Jack few times now and I don't have any problem, that's why I keep promoting, if something is off someone that's well ranked on this forum will have raised an alarm.

For the fact that some bad actors are paying people like OP to destroy the imagine of any online gambling platform is disgusting, change your ways people, karma is for real and it's a Bitch.

I doubt that Fortune Jack has an ongoing lawsuit given on how it is well-represented on this forum as one of the biggest crypto gambling casino currently. In addition, if it were indeed in a lawsuit, everyone would be in on it right now and we would expect a word from Hhampuz, which is the manager of its signature campaign.

There are people who are just hired in order to destroy the reputation of a gambling website. Though that may be the case, such allegation and accusation can never defeat hard facts that substantiate against their claim and allegation. As long as people know their facts and others provide info against otherwise, then such accusation made by these people would be meaningless.

[PaperWallet]

Stake got a lawsuit too before but they are still standing strong.

Got a lawsuit about what? About not paying winnings? Of course not. Stake is a respectable website.

Hi Dezoel,
Could you please elaborate more on this? I googled it and found nothing but about a lawsuit on stake.com. Nothing about a player suing stake.com for not paying winnings.

The most popular lawsuit against Stake owner is a civil court action by their previous co-owner of Primedice for misleading to not invest on Stake but there is no popular or known active lawsuit against Stake so far that bing broadcast.

Probably he is pertaining to that lawsuit https://www.smh.com.au/business/entrepreneurship/desperate-attempt-stake-com-founders-hit-with-580-million-lawsuit-20220901-p5belg.html#:~:text=The%20Australian%20founders%20of%20the,of%20the%20hugely%20successful%20business. since this topic become popular discussion on gambling section when it was newly released by news outlet.

Thank you. I’ve seen this, but somehow I missed to mention « from a partner » in my previous message (now edited). What I meant is that I couldn’t find anything about a certain player on Stake (and not a business partner), who is suing them for unpaid winnings.

if it were indeed in a lawsuit, everyone would be in on it right now and we would expect a word from Hhampuz, which is the manager of its signature campaign.

This thread has been here since the 22nd of April, any idea on why he didn’t address this until now? I already mentioned Sir @Hhampuz before but he never wanted to comment on this.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

if it were indeed in a lawsuit, everyone would be in on it right now and we would expect a word from Hhampuz, which is the manager of its signature campaign.

This thread has been here since the 22nd of April, any idea on why he didn’t address this until now? I already mentioned Sir @Hhampuz before but he never wanted to comment on this.

There is no way you expect Hhampuz to comment on a matter that is not verified to be true, you only came here to claim that FortuneJack has an ongoing lawsuit, but failed to provide any evidence.
And FortuneJack on the part have said nothing about your claim, or maybe Hhampuz have reached out to the FortuneJack team to ascertain if your claim is true, and the team ask him to say nothing..

It is up to you to either attach evidence that proves that what you claim is true, then and only then can users take you serious, and maybe Hhampuz will have no other choice but to say something.

[Desmong]

Stake got a lawsuit too before but they are still standing strong.

Got a lawsuit about what? About not paying winnings? Of course not. Stake is a respectable website.

If they git a lawsuit then they have to settle it and stand strong again or else, that will make gamblers to lose interest in there casino and they will have to start afresh again before they regain there customers again because of the reputation they have lost. There is no way they can escape the lawsuit because if they are confirmed to be reliable, they're going to pay and pay again.

[PaperWallet]

There is no way you expect Hhampuz to comment on a matter that is not verified to be true.

But it IS true. People who always want evidence while they know something is true are the people with bad intentions of lie and fraud. They don’t need me to know it’s true.

And FortuneJack on the part have said nothing about your claim, or maybe Hhampuz have reached out to the FortuneJack team to ascertain if your claim is true, and the team ask him to say nothing.

This is the most likely scenario.

If they git a lawsuit then they have to settle it and stand strong again or else, that will make gamblers to lose interest in there casino and they will have to start afresh again before they regain there customers again because of the reputation they have lost.

Exactly… I still have to get an answer up to this day on what reputable online casino has a lawsuit because of unpaid winnings… and if that would happen, certainly no respectable lawyer would take the case.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

There is no way you expect Hhampuz to comment on a matter that is not verified to be true.

But it IS true. People who always want evidence while they know something is true are the people with bad intentions of lie and fraud. They don’t need me to know it’s true.

Haha, 😂 friend, you are very funny, maybe you should read your comment again and try to understand it from another user's angle.

How exactly did they (like you put it) get to know that what you claim is true?
Where they there with you when you deposited, played and won on ForturnJack, and then FortuneJack refused to pay you? And you all agreed to file a case against FortuneJack?

This transaction is something you did on your own, as you claimed you did, FortuneJack refused to pay you - is also a claim of yours since there is no evidence..
And then striking a lawsuit against FortuneJack, is also another claim of yours, you didn't carry out any of this activities with anybody else, so how did they, that you referred to come to know that all this is true when you didn't carry any of them along while all this activities was going on?

And not to look like I am taking you for a ride, I am just catching cruz here, I do not believe any of your claim,  and I believe that 100 percent of users commenting here do not believe you as well, we are just having fun here, and until you make an evidence available, no body will take you and this thread serious.

[Yogee]

He may or may not have been advised by the team to stay out of this but it's only natural that the campaign manager of FJ refrain from making any comments on an ongoing lawsuit. The signature campaign will likely continue even if FJ lost anyway. They will just pay the OP and move on with their business.

[.....]
It is up to you to either attach evidence that proves that what you claim is true, then and only then can users take you serious, and maybe Hhampuz will have no other choice but to say something.

It's probably not a public trial so don't expect any evidence to prove that there's really an ongoing lawsuit. It's also not a high profile case so no links for media coverage to show.

[Alphie12]

There is no way you expect Hhampuz to comment on a matter that is not verified to be true.

But it IS true. People who always want evidence while they know something is true are the people with bad intentions of lie and fraud. They don’t need me to know it’s true.

And FortuneJack on the part have said nothing about your claim, or maybe Hhampuz have reached out to the FortuneJack team to ascertain if your claim is true, and the team ask him to say nothing.

This is the most likely scenario.

If they git a lawsuit then they have to settle it and stand strong again or else, that will make gamblers to lose interest in there casino and they will have to start afresh again before they regain there customers again because of the reputation they have lost.

Exactly… I still have to get an answer up to this day on what reputable online casino has a lawsuit because of unpaid winnings… and if that would happen, certainly no respectable lawyer would take the case.

A lawsuit isn't going to work since casinos never lose in Curacao. I went over to your thread in scam accusations and the pics aren't showing up so I don't have an opinion other than lawsuits are a waste of time and money there. Also, I really like FJ so would like to know exactly what happened.

[slapper]

There is no way you expect Hhampuz to comment on a matter that is not verified to be true.

But it IS true. People who always want evidence while they know something is true are the people with bad intentions of lie and fraud. They don’t need me to know it’s true.

Haha, 😂 friend, you are very funny, maybe you should read your comment again and try to understand it from another user's angle.

How exactly did they (like you put it) get to know that what you claim is true?
Where they there with you when you deposited, played and won on ForturnJack, and then FortuneJack refused to pay you? And you all agreed to file a case against FortuneJack?

This transaction is something you did on your own, as you claimed you did, FortuneJack refused to pay you - is also a claim of yours since there is no evidence..
And then striking a lawsuit against FortuneJack, is also another claim of yours, you didn't carry out any of this activities with anybody else, so how did they, that you referred to come to know that all this is true when you didn't carry any of them along while all this activities was going on?

And not to look like I am taking you for a ride, I am just catching cruz here, I do not believe any of your claim,  and I believe that 100 percent of users commenting here do not believe you as well, we are just having fun here, and until you make an evidence available, no body will take you and this thread serious.

I think it's essential to underscore the importance of evidence in any claim. It is not to suggest dishonesty or fraudulent intent. Instead, it's a foundational element of any logical or academic discussion. The burden of proof is always on the claimant. Think of it as "pics or it didn't happen" rule of the internet.

Now, referring to your encounter with FortuneJack, I can understand your frustration, but we can't blindly accept your version without solid proof. It's not a matter of trust but adhering to the principles of fair discussion. Just as we expect a news article to cite sources, we expect users to back their claims with credible evidence. It doesn't necessarily mean we think you're lying, but rather that we want to engage in an informed discussion.

As for the lawsuit, sharing verifiable documents would immensely strengthen your case in the court of public opinion. Until then, people will maintain skepticism. It's not about ridicule or fun; it's about the pursuit of truth.

[PaperWallet]

A lawsuit isn't going to work since casinos never lose in Curacao. I went over to your thread in scam accusations and the pics aren't showing up so I don't have an opinion other than lawsuits are a waste of time and money there. Also, I really like FJ so would like to know exactly what happened.

Just check google where AntillePhone was sentenced to 500,000 dollars to pay a turkish player who was scammed as I was. (AntillePhone is also the regulator of Fortunejack)

And thank you for pointing out about not seeing the pictures, I can’t see them either. They’ve been here since a long time and they’ve always been visible. Anyone got an idea on why they’re no longer visible?

[Godzilliy]

I read 7 pages and I don't understand what's the point?
you have sued (or are trying to sue) Fortunjack.
On all the pages you ask for fortune that it's true.
So, what is next?
True or not true, it doesn't matter.
Only the outcome of this lawsuit matters!
And I wish you good luck and do not forget to leave your comment after the end of the process.

[QueenVera]

120k is really a big amount of money, but I've played before in the FortuneJack without any problem but that time I don't have around 120k and it's just around 100-300USD I think it is really different when it comes to bigger money. I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.

Having a lawsuit doesn't mean the casino is bankrupt and since the op doesn't trust anyone to give out evidence  to this claims then I think I wouldn't have to treat this claims with any keen interest as this might be some form of anger verging on FortuneJack from op.
Op i don't know why it seems so difficult  for  you to show us proves to your accusation but I think that for the fact that you posted this accusation  on the forum, we deserve every right  to demand proves to your claims if you really don't want others to fall victims of same thing else I want to say that you're  messing with a business reputation and its really not a nice thing  to do.

[PaperWallet]

True or not true, it doesn't matter.
Only the outcome of this lawsuit matters!
And I wish you good luck and do not forget to leave your comment after the end of the process.

So you believe it’s true:)

For you say only the outcome of this lawsuit matters, I disagree on many points. First, the outcome of this lawsuit won’t stop the process, since in case of unfavorable judgment it’s going to the appeal court, and then to the supreme court if necessary. Second, it’s not the result that matters what matters is that I’m doing my best to get my money. If these thieves get away with it, I am in peace and I will still be in peace even after my death when I see them in hell, when their evil presence will no longer have influence on the followers of Jesus Christ.

No problem I will post result here once it’s out.

120k is really a big amount of money, but I've played before in the FortuneJack without any problem but that time I don't have around 120k and it's just around 100-300USD I think it is really different when it comes to bigger money. I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.

Having a lawsuit doesn't mean the casino is bankrupt and since the op doesn't trust anyone to give out evidence  to this claims then I think I wouldn't have to treat this claims with any keen interest as this might be some form of anger verging on FortuneJack from op.
Op i don't know why it seems so difficult  for  you to show us proves to your accusation but I think that for the fact that you posted this accusation  on the forum, we deserve every right  to demand proves to your claims if you really don't want others to fall victims of same thing else I want to say that you're  messing with a business reputation and its really not a nice thing  to do.

Please read what has been written before posting.

[PaperWallet]

Update: after court deposition they had about 6-7 weeks to reply, and then they decided to postpone. With summer vacations, now they have until September to reply. They’re doing their best to delay as much as possible.

They’ve had the same strategy since the very beginning when the demand letter was sent to them.

[Wiwo]

120k is really a big amount of money, but I've played before in the FortuneJack without any problem but that time I don't have around 120k and it's just around 100-300USD I think it is really different when it comes to bigger money. I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.

Having a lawsuit doesn't mean the casino is bankrupt and since the op doesn't trust anyone to give out evidence  to this claims then I think I wouldn't have to treat this claims with any keen interest as this might be some form of anger verging on FortuneJack from op.
Op i don't know why it seems so difficult  for  you to show us proves to your accusation but I think that for the fact that you posted this accusation  on the forum, we deserve every right  to demand proves to your claims if you really don't want others to fall victims of same thing else I want to say that you're  messing with a business reputation and its really not a nice thing  to do.

I think the ops is up to something that is either not clear to him what a law suit is and what it implications are in the operation of fortune jack which is somewhat the case,  because with all the baseless accusation and falsely announced law suit without any evidence to prove to the fact of the information.

Between,  ops already hard some red tag on his profile and his subsequent comment on this thread point to the fact that ops have nothing to prove other than accusing fortune jack and any one trying to ask for evidence or link to the lawsuit.

[PaperWallet]

120k is really a big amount of money, but I've played before in the FortuneJack without any problem but that time I don't have around 120k and it's just around 100-300USD I think it is really different when it comes to bigger money. I was curious about the ongoing lawsuit how was it? Does the FortuneJack know about it and what is their response to this kind of allegation.

Having a lawsuit doesn't mean the casino is bankrupt and since the op doesn't trust anyone to give out evidence  to this claims then I think I wouldn't have to treat this claims with any keen interest as this might be some form of anger verging on FortuneJack from op.
Op i don't know why it seems so difficult  for  you to show us proves to your accusation but I think that for the fact that you posted this accusation  on the forum, we deserve every right  to demand proves to your claims if you really don't want others to fall victims of same thing else I want to say that you're  messing with a business reputation and its really not a nice thing  to do.

I think the ops is up to something that is either not clear to him what a law suit is and what it implications are in the operation of fortune jack which is somewhat the case,  because with all the baseless accusation and falsely announced law suit without any evidence to prove to the fact of the information.

Between,  ops already hard some red tag on his profile and his subsequent comment on this thread point to the fact that ops have nothing to prove other than accusing fortune jack and any one trying to ask for evidence or link to the lawsuit.

Stop shitposting and find a better job you idiot but maybe you can’t

[Freedom4All]

Now that´s what I call shitposting ^^

BTW: Seven pages full of accusations but also seven pages without a shred of evidence. It's quite easy to do this without revealing anything. Up until now, all you've been doing is attacking FortuneJack. The fact that you provide absolutely no evidence is indefensible. You don't have to, but then you should also close the thread. There was no need for the thread in the first place. In this manner, anyone could make these kinds of claims about any casino or business.

[Wiwo]

Now that´s what I call shitposting ^^

BTW: Seven pages full of accusations but also seven pages without a shred of evidence. It's quite easy to do this without revealing anything. Up until now, all you've been doing is attacking FortuneJack. The fact that you provide absolutely no evidence is indefensible you don't have to, but then you should also close the thread. There was no need for the thread in the first place. In this manner, anyone could make these kinds of claims about any casino or business.

I guess the best way to deal with ops is to put him on my ignore list since he has proven not to be reasonable enough to engage in constructive discussions other than calling people names and accusing companies.

I advise you all put him on ignore list to avoid seeing further trash from the ops., I just had a run thorough ops post history before putting him in my ignore he has nothing to contribute to the forum despite being around since 2020.

[PaperWallet]

Can I make this thread self moderated as of now? People (or bots) shitposting are trying to dilute my posts between their nonsense posts to make it difficult for the honest people who are interested in this thread follow up on important information.

I read once that there was going to be the Captcha anti-bot authenticator before posting but I see none.

[AussieMat]

I have never played on FortuneJack, but from what I see on the link provided by OP this is definitely a scam.
To be honest, I just don’t understand why so many here don’t want to believe him he is suing them. Why not sue them if he got scammed for such an amount of money.

I’ve had an issue with Duelbits that has been solved, never provided any evidence yet did not face people coming to my thread and saying this is not true. Posting pictures here also needs some time learning and some technical skills.

@OP this is also such a unique case you have it would be interesting if you post some pictures of the lawsuit papers.

[Slow death]

Update: after court deposition they had about 6-7 weeks to reply, and then they decided to postpone. With summer vacations, now they have until September to reply. They’re doing their best to delay as much as possible.

They’ve had the same strategy since the very beginning when the demand letter was sent to them.

It seems to me that you still don't know what you want to achieve, you will probably say that you want justice, but nowadays there are two ways to get justice, different from the past when people had only one way, which was the courts. today people have the courts and the media and social networks and forums in which the person exposes his problem in search of support from the majority of people so that he can praise the company or person who committed the injustice, society today exercises a great pressure, that's why a good strategy that has been used is to simply post every problem with tests in every corner of social networks and forums and media.

now I ask you:

what are you doing here in the forum and what do you intend to achieve in this forum?

As I look at this thread and looking at your post history, I see that it's not working for you, and the reason is very simple: you don't post evidence, all you're doing is just writing and using arguments that people on the forum they are not reliable. but have you read what you have written? how the hell would it be possible for someone on the forum to change your court case? how would someone harm you if you are in what court and country and case number are you? how would anyone harm you if you showed pictures of every thing you are talking about? instead of showing evidence your focus has been on threatening people, insulting people because according to you they are from the third world and are on this forum to make money doing shitpost

Have you ever stopped to think and put yourself in people's shoes? who will believe a court case story without seeing evidence? how will people stay on your side without seeing proof? good luck doing everything that way

I have never played on FortuneJack, but from what I see on the link provided by OP this is definitely a scam.
To be honest, I just don’t understand why so many here don’t want to believe him he is suing them. Why not sue them if he got scammed for such an amount of money.

read the answer here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.msg58318691#msg58318691

[PaperWallet]

now I ask you:

what are you doing here in the forum and what do you intend to achieve in this forum?

Have you looked at my profile to see how many (short) messages I posted here in the last months? Doesn’t look like I intend to achieve that much in this forum.

instead of showing evidence your focus has been on threatening people, insulting people because according to you they are from the third world and are on this forum to make money doing shitpost

What threats? Can you be more specific? Yes I threatened to bring a lawsuit and I did. As for the real justice, I’ll leave that up to God. Their fortune is only temporary and the delay of justice in that matter is only in God’s hand.
And yes I see it all the time here people making money shitposting.

[Beparanf]

instead of showing evidence your focus has been on threatening people, insulting people because according to you they are from the third world and are on this forum to make money doing shitpost

What threats? Can you be more specific? Yes I threatened to bring a lawsuit and I did. As for the real justice, I’ll leave that up to God. Their fortune is only temporary and the delay of justice in that matter is only in God’s hand.
And yes I see it all the time here people making money shitposting.

All of this nonsense questioning your goal here will be avoided if you only provide proof for your actual lawsuit case against FJ. There’s no law that makes sharing a lawsuit confidential since this being tackle on a public trial.

You have no proof for your claim here that’s why your thread becomes full of post that ask you same question that you didn’t answer precisely. If you are still waiting then just lock this thread and wait for the result to release because your thread is more like fake threat instead of a reminder because there’s no supporting evidence over your case.

[Slow death]

now I ask you:

what are you doing here in the forum and what do you intend to achieve in this forum?

Have you looked at my profile to see how many (short) messages I posted here in the last months? Doesn’t look like I intend to achieve that much in this forum.

instead of showing evidence your focus has been on threatening people, insulting people because according to you they are from the third world and are on this forum to make money doing shitpost

What threats? Can you be more specific? Yes I threatened to bring a lawsuit and I did. As for the real justice, I’ll leave that up to God. Their fortune is only temporary and the delay of justice in that matter is only in God’s hand.
And yes I see it all the time here people making money shitposting.

I and everyone in this thread asked you why you don't say in which court the case is being heard, in which city, in which neighborhood is the court located, what is the case number, if hearings have already been scheduled and you were present and what what the judge said. you did not provide any data, would providing this data affect the outcome of the case? obviously that would not affect it, and the reason is simple: no one in this thread has the intention of going to the country, city, neighborhood where the court is located and to bribe the judge and be arrested later. who and why would make such an absurdity? and obviously no one would do that.

And you're forgetting that the instant you put the case in court FortuneJack will be getting updates on the case through their attorney, the court will always notify both parties of any information regarding the case. so I ask you: why don't you post some proof here or more data? besides all that and that you are not reading well what the casino representative posted on the forum and from what I see you must not have gone to see their TOS after their representative answered you in your thread that will already be 2 years old in a few months

when you read what their casino representative here on the forum posted and their TOS then it's easy to see that even if it's not a good thing that they let you place bets like that, even so, in their TOS they had already foreseen such a scenario and already there was a measure that the casino would take, so it's not a scam and the judge will give the reason to the casino and you will have to pay the court costs and your lawyer costs, the members of this thread are trying to say that, I don't know if do you really have a lawyer or not, but a real good lawyer would have told you right away that this is a hopeless case, so you don't spend money and time on it.

do other things in life and you would forget about it all, you would be using the money to do business and play in casinos other than spending years fighting for a lost cause that will only waste your money, time and give you disappointments and cause you depression.

[AussieMat]

I have never played on FortuneJack, but from what I see on the link provided by OP this is definitely a scam.
To be honest, I just don’t understand why so many here don’t want to believe him he is suing them. Why not sue them if he got scammed for such an amount of money.

read the answer here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.msg58318691#msg58318691

I was referring to that link in my message, and I already gave my opinion. I’ve been online gambling since 2011, and I’ve seen it all. 99% of the scams are perpetrated with some dishonet “terms and conditions”, generally by malicious interpretation of the terms and conditions.

Here’s the Cambridge definition of a scam : https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/scam

This case is a textbook definition of a scam.

[PaperWallet]

Update:
The honorable FortuneJack has finally replied on the last legal day they should, as they’re trying to delay the case as much as possible.

Their defense is that they simply did not pay attention that these bets were “identical” until they won, and they’re of course asking the judge to trust them on it. Suggesting otherwise would be “inappropriate” as they say. Of course, waiting hours for the game to start and finish, and then cancelling it within 30 minutes after result, not to mention that they were offering “identical” bets, is just a coincidence. Also, not to mention the fact that in other cases they don’t pay attention at all when bets are identical yet lose (despite max win more than 100k euros).

They also ask the judge to trust them that, despite the current format of their terms and conditions which in unlawful, it was lawful at the time of my bets.

[PaperWallet]

Update: The court ordered my lawyer to respond back to them by writing by November 6. These are some sort of hearings (as they write on their documents, “hearing”) but in writing.

[PaperWallet]

My lawyer has postponed the answer until today since he was too busy, and he submitted his answer today. There has been some deceitful statements from Fortunejack that we were luckily able to disprove.

[PaperWallet]

Update: they’ll have to respond by January 8th. But as we expect, they’ll of course postpone since their strategy is to delay as much as possible (the rate in Curaçao for late payment is very low). I’ll also make sure that I don’t miss suing them for fraud if I can. Delaying this they can but delaying their descent to hell, it’s in God’s hand only.

[PaperWallet]

Update: As usual and as expected,  in an effort to delay this case the most possible, they postponed their reply to February 19.

[IndependentGambler]

I'm following and care about your case. I read your original scam accusation 2 years ago and did wonder how everything ended up. I've never had to sue a casino or sportsbook(yet). being a larger bettor than average it's the most annoying thing when they make delays in payment.

it should be simple, they offer the game or bet, they should pay it out. Acting like a fake victim only shows anyone with half a brain the complete disregard for being a decent business.

I'm looking forward to the payment party...   

[PaperWallet]

I'm following and care about your case. I read your original scam accusation 2 years ago and did wonder how everything ended up. I've never had to sue a casino or sportsbook(yet). being a larger bettor than average it's the most annoying thing when they make delays in payment.

it should be simple, they offer the game or bet, they should pay it out. Acting like a fake victim only shows anyone with half a brain the complete disregard for being a decent business.

I'm looking forward to the payment party...   

They are thieves. In our day, this crime is no longer as severely punished as it was before, but nonetheless it doesn’t mean they won’t be by God, especially in the eternal life, when their lies, deceits, and their money will be of no help anymore, and all will be lost for them forever.

Update: They are trying to settle the lawsuits against them (my lawyer told me, actually I’m not the only one he’s suing them for). For me, as I said many times, I don’t settle with thieves…. That’s more important than the final result of the lawsuit or any money I could have.

[PaperWallet]

Update: no news.

As their usual strategy continues, and despite the fact they had to answer yesterday, they found a way to have some exceptional excuses to ask my lawyer to still delay until 18th of march. My lawyer granted them that without consulting with me. So they had 3 months to reply and now one more month.

[PaperWallet]

New information (not really an update):
On the 18th of March going to be (normally) the last replie of FortuneJack before it is scheduled for judgment. Why normally? Because if they submit new documentation, we’ll have to reply and no judgment will be scheduled. Given their innovative ways in delaying the case that they have come up with so far, I wouldn’t be surprised if, after a year and a half of a lawsuit, they find some new documentation to submit.

So as of now I still expect the case to be delayed even further.

[PaperWallet]

Ok so they replied, with all sorts of lies that I won’t even bother mentioning. To my surprise though, they haven’t included new documents so the case is scheduled for judgment on the 6th of May.

Maybe they want to save some lawyers fees. I am not overly optimistic, because even if I win, they might find another excuse for not paying in due time or not at all…

[iv4n]

Ok so they replied, with all sorts of lies that I won’t even bother mentioning. To my surprise though, they haven’t included new documents so the case is scheduled for judgment on the 6th of May.

Maybe they want to save some lawyers fees. I am not overly optimistic, because even if I win, they might find another excuse for not paying in due time or not at all…

I have been following your case and I hope that you will win in the end. I also hope that everything you write is correct and true because this is a unique case, so far there have been no such (or similar) cases where someone decided to sue a crypto casino through official channels (at least not that I am aware of). So I am very interested in your case and what will happen in the end.

I understand why you are not too optimistic, those courts can be crooked and corrupt... anyway, I am rooting for you and hope you can get them!

[PaperWallet]

Ok so they replied, with all sorts of lies that I won’t even bother mentioning. To my surprise though, they haven’t included new documents so the case is scheduled for judgment on the 6th of May.

Maybe they want to save some lawyers fees. I am not overly optimistic, because even if I win, they might find another excuse for not paying in due time or not at all…

I have been following your case and I hope that you will win in the end. I also hope that everything you write is correct and true because this is a unique case, so far there have been no such (or similar) cases where someone decided to sue a crypto casino through official channels (at least not that I am aware of). So I am very interested in your case and what will happen in the end.

I understand why you are not too optimistic, those courts can be crooked and corrupt... anyway, I am rooting for you and hope you can get them!

As I said, I am not overly optimistic because I might win and still not get paid. But hell, that would create all sorts of problems for them, but who knows.

I am though optimistic I’ll win the case, if not now with the courts of appeal. My lawyer is very convinced about my case and will take it to the courts of appeal if necessary.

[eyos]

just got scammed by them aswell lol. not a lot of money, but simply had to pretend to be a beginner and that was enough.
i sub'd to this thread. if I can be of any help for your lawsuit, please do let me know.

[PaperWallet]

just got scammed by them aswell lol. not a lot of money, but simply had to pretend to be a beginner and that was enough.
i sub'd to this thread. if I can be of any help for your lawsuit, please do let me know.

How did that happen?

Thank you very much but the case is now closed and is scheduled for judgment on 6th of May.

[PaperWallet]

Just curious about how many people are interested in the outcome of this lawsuit and what happens next. I guess if nobody’s following I might as well stop posting. Anyway, if you’re interested, manifest yourself here in this thread. I will continue posting if enough people are interested. If not enjoy being scammed on this forum, I’m out.

[Beparanf]

Just curious about how many people are interested in the outcome of this lawsuit and what happens next. I guess if nobody’s following I might as well stop posting. Anyway, if you’re interested, manifest yourself here in this thread. I will continue posting if enough people are interested. If not enjoy being scammed on this forum, I’m out.

Many user here are curious about the outcome of the lawsuit, assuming that there is one. The issue with this thread is that there is a lack of transparency surrounding the existing lawsuit. There is no proof of the lawsuit in the form of pictures or documents; only plain words from you.

 It is important to provide proof to make others believe that there is a lawsuit, rather than relying on trust alone. You are going up against a well-known brand, so it will be interesting to see the outcome of the battle against a giant casino like FJ.

Btw your issue is almost 3 years now.

[PaperWallet]

Just curious about how many people are interested in the outcome of this lawsuit and what happens next. I guess if nobody’s following I might as well stop posting. Anyway, if you’re interested, manifest yourself here in this thread. I will continue posting if enough people are interested. If not enjoy being scammed on this forum, I’m out.

Many user here are curious about the outcome of the lawsuit, assuming that there is one. The issue with this thread is that there is a lack of transparency surrounding the existing lawsuit. There is no proof of the lawsuit in the form of pictures or documents; only plain words from you.

 It is important to provide proof to make others believe that there is a lawsuit, rather than relying on trust alone. You are going up against a well-known brand, so it will be interesting to see the outcome of the battle against a giant casino like FJ.

Btw your issue is almost 3 years now.

Ok here’s one. But we need others.

Yes so 3 years ago I was asked to give proof of the scam and I spent hours doing so and when I finally provided it, the dishonest members of this forum refused to acknowledge the scam or tag fortunejack as a scammer. Now I don’t owe this forum anything, except what I like posting. If you are interested about whether the lawsuit is true, why don’t you send an email to fortunejack directly? I’m sure someone on this forum called Hhampuz can help you out.

[Beparanf]

If you are interested about whether the lawsuit is true, why don’t you send an email to fortunejack directly? I’m sure an evil creature on this forum called Hhampuz can help you out, if God hasn’t sent him to hell already

Why do I need to ask them if you are the one who files it? I’m sure you have the cc of that email if ever it was addressed to Fortunejack because you are the counter party involves. Asking them about the existence of my email is not their responsibility to answer since we are not relevant to your issue.

Lastly, Hhampuz is just doing his job to protect the brand. The community needs the hard proof. Besides you don’t need to convince as badly if the lawsuit is already running since that’s your only way now to deal with FJ.

[PaperWallet]

If you are interested about whether the lawsuit is true, why don’t you send an email to fortunejack directly? I’m sure an evil creature on this forum called Hhampuz can help you out, if God hasn’t sent him to hell already

Why do I need to ask them if you are the one who files it? I’m sure you have the cc of that email if ever it was addressed to Fortunejack because you are the counter party involves. Asking them about the existence of my email is not their responsibility to answer since we are not relevant to your issue.

Lastly, Hhampuz is just doing his job to protect the brand. The community needs the hard proof. Besides you don’t need to convince as badly if the lawsuit is already running since that’s your only way now to deal with FJ.

It only involves lawyers and court deposition. Nobody said you have to ask. Only if you’re interested to know the truth.

As for Hhampuz, well, I edited my post because it’s not for me to judge, God will judge him for sure, but it’s still my opinion though. But as a matter of fact, he’s not the only one working to protecting brands in the gambling world. It just depends on how you do it. You can do your job properly or protect brands by being a thief and a liar at your job. He’s not the only one though being a thief at his job neither.

[PaperWallet]

Just curious about how many people are interested in the outcome of this lawsuit and what happens next. I guess if nobody’s following I might as well stop posting. Anyway, if you’re interested, manifest yourself here in this thread. I will continue posting if enough people are interested. If not enjoy being scammed on this forum, I’m out.

Many user here are curious about the outcome of the lawsuit, assuming that there is one. The issue with this thread is that there is a lack of transparency surrounding the existing lawsuit. There is no proof of the lawsuit in the form of pictures or documents; only plain words from you.

 It is important to provide proof to make others believe that there is a lawsuit, rather than relying on trust alone. You are going up against a well-known brand, so it will be interesting to see the outcome of the battle against a giant casino like FJ.

Btw your issue is almost 3 years now.

Ok the conversation got deviated, let’s just count how many are interested in outcome of lawsuit. Normally it should be today.

If you are interested, comment here. Otherwise this would be my last message and I won’t say anything about the outcome.

[PaperWallet]

Update: judgment postponed until 3rd of June. So if you read this and are interested in the outcome of this lawsuit, you can post here, I need many people to post here to give the outcome. If not, I’ll keep my word that this is my last post. Fare well my followers.

[hopenotlate]

Update: judgment postponed until 3rd of June. So if you read this and are interested in the outcome of this lawsuit, you can post here, I need many people to post here to give the outcome. If not, I’ll keep my word that this is my last post. Fare well my followers.

I don't see any reason not to post the outcome of the lawsuit here, given all the efforts you put to keep posting here the whole situation since the beginning. Sharing your experience here can be helpful also for people who might still not be fortunejack user and not even forum users yet.
Don't get me wrong but sounds like you are looking for a reason not to update this thread anymore.
Just keep on updating this thread with every further development and leave it here for posterity beside people already following it ( for the record this thread has been read 1636 times while am writing this).

[PaperWallet]

Update: judgment postponed until 3rd of June. So if you read this and are interested in the outcome of this lawsuit, you can post here, I need many people to post here to give the outcome. If not, I’ll keep my word that this is my last post. Fare well my followers.

I don't see any reason not to post the outcome of the lawsuit here, given all the efforts you put to keep posting here the whole situation since the beginning. Sharing your experience here can be helpful also for people who might still not be fortunejack user and not even forum users yet.
Don't get me wrong but sounds like you are looking for a reason not to update this thread anymore.
Just keep on updating this thread with every further development and leave it here for posterity beside people already following it ( for the record this thread has been read 1636 times while am writing this).

No problem my friend, your voice counts too. I just need one more to manifest his interest in the outcome here and I will come back on the 3rd of June to post the outcome of the lawsuit.