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March 29, 2014, 06:04:43 PM
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Cost of the operation. electric, loan repayments (unless its all paid for) rent etc. 4 months ago BTC was worth 2x what it is now, its a big chunk to lose.

I think it's all paid for... Here's a quote from page 2:

"I figure I spent about $1 million building the existing facility and racking and deployment of the mining hardware, and then we probably spent in the range of $2 million to $3 million on the hardware itself," he said. Rent is another $8,000 a month, power $40,000 a month. "I think we spent probably $3 to $5 million dollars total on the operation. It's paid itself off [in bitcoins] many times over already."

Clearly a good investment as it's already throwing off free cash flow.  But his fixed expenses are high and will only increase as difficulty rises (assuming he wants to mine the same proportionate amount).  He'll need Bitcoin to keep increasing in price in order to continue to stay mining, otherwise they'll be a lot of rigs for sale.

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March 29, 2014, 06:57:24 PM
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Well if I had the money I would probably do the same thing
Not necessarily, not what people have the vision and courage to do such a thing. Grin Grin
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March 29, 2014, 07:49:04 PM
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Cost of the operation. electric, loan repayments (unless its all paid for) rent etc. 4 months ago BTC was worth 2x what it is now, its a big chunk to lose.

I think it's all paid for... Here's a quote from page 2:

"I figure I spent about $1 million building the existing facility and racking and deployment of the mining hardware, and then we probably spent in the range of $2 million to $3 million on the hardware itself," he said. Rent is another $8,000 a month, power $40,000 a month. "I think we spent probably $3 to $5 million dollars total on the operation. It's paid itself off [in bitcoins] many times over already."

If he motivates 20 people to do the same thing, then will any of those make money?

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March 30, 2014, 07:47:05 AM
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The problem is these operations put a lot of downward pressure on the price because they NEED to sell to keep themselves afloat.  Hobbyists who spend a couple thousand bucks of free floating capital for fun don't need to recoup anything.  Therefore, they never HAVE to sell for less than what they think a bitcoin is worth.  It'll be interesting to see if there is a lull in incentivation for big farm miners because of this.  This price drop could be short term, but trends like these need some real big news to break free.  I am ok with micro-transactions at this price, but I'd feel a little cheated if I were selling large amounts of bitcoin at this price.  Who knows what they do, though, maybe they saw this coming and sold at the top and are hoping to ride out long term for a while.

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March 30, 2014, 01:44:04 PM
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So he gets 360 bitcoins a day that don't seem right?
Why not? The maths seems right. Morally, he risked $5m of his money, so deserves some reward.

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March 30, 2014, 03:09:01 PM
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As just were said: what is it now? it's a big chunk to lose.
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March 31, 2014, 05:25:04 AM
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So he gets 360 bitcoins a day that don't seem right?
Why not? The maths seems right. Morally, he risked $5m of his money, so deserves some reward.

Alt coins will die soon (many of them)

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March 31, 2014, 06:30:20 AM
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He will be hurtin once btc hits 2$ again.... soon enough.

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March 31, 2014, 06:47:34 AM
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He will be hurtin once btc hits 2$ again.... soon enough.

Bring it on.
How soon....?

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March 31, 2014, 10:55:23 AM
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I guess everyone would love to make such wager.

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March 31, 2014, 11:03:05 AM
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that man is insane.  Roll Eyes he could also soon be a billionaire
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March 31, 2014, 11:09:30 AM
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I love it , a goal of mine too , haven't broken past 1% yet at any given time Smiley Keep up the good work neighbor.

you probably dont have a seven digit loan of liquidity either
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March 31, 2014, 12:02:42 PM
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Impressive, go big or go home is clearly his way of thinking. I dont think he will be able to keep up with his goal of having 10% of all mined coins but either way he's going to be even richer than he already is.
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April 15, 2014, 10:45:19 PM
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I love it , a goal of mine too , haven't broken past 1% yet at any given time Smiley Keep up the good work neighbor.

you probably dont have a seven digit loan of liquidity either

no , lol , I don't need loans to have that kind of skin in the game. join us Smiley

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April 15, 2014, 11:44:00 PM
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He will be hurtin once btc hits 2$ again.... soon enough.

He already said it paid for itself many times over again, so he made his initial 5 million back plus many times more for profit.
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April 16, 2014, 12:30:27 AM
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Cost of the operation. electric, loan repayments (unless its all paid for) rent etc. 4 months ago BTC was worth 2x what it is now, its a big chunk to lose.


6 months ago Bitcoin was worth 1/5th what it is worth now, it's a big chunk to gain.

Then he would have done better by straight buying BTC.

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April 16, 2014, 02:05:11 AM
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Impressive, go big or go home is clearly his way of thinking. I dont think he will be able to keep up with his goal of having 10% of all mined coins but either way he's going to be even richer than he already is.

go big or go home
I love that attitude.
Getting the start up money (for anything) can be a big issue for some people.

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April 16, 2014, 02:39:03 AM
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This guy is my hero.
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