Projects Visibility (Sig Campaigns) in Bitcointalk.

[rby]

Projects Visibility (Sig Campaigns) in Bitcointalk.
Before Read:

• This thread shows the level of visibility of every active signature campaigns in Bitcointalk forum. The arrangement is such that the No.1 on the table is the most visible while the last is the least visible
• It also shows the maximum  weekly budget of each project owners to sustain the campaign, among other things such as the highest permissible payment to each participant, the percentage visibility in gambling boards, etc.
• I will be updating this thread as time goes
• No shit posting, spamming or off topic posts would be tolerated here. Besides, this is a self-moderated thread, such posts that do not fit the purpose of this thread would be deleted without the poster’s consent.  
• I will allow extensive discussions for the first week of this thread incase of observations . After the first week, every other discussions would only be about updating the thread or the information therein.

Bitcoin Signature Campaign Visibility

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S/N

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Active Campaign

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Manager

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Date of Launch

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Num.

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Total Post/wk

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Max budget/wk

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Max pay/member

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Remark

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1.

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Stake.com

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Carollzinha

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Nov. 21, 2020

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69

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3,300 - 3,900+

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$6,300

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$160

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Gambling

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2.

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Duelbits

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Hhampuz

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Oct. 05, 2020

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112

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2240

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$6,965

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$70

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Gambling

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|

3.

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Whirlwind

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Hhampuz

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Mar. 28, 2023

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48

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1,200

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$6,300

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$150

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Mixer

|

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4.

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SINBAD

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Royse777

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Nov. 02, 2022

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37

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925

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$3,510

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$150

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Mixer

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5.

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MIXTUM

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icopress

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Mar. 28, 2023

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37

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900+

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0.1932 BTC

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0.0048 BTC

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[Relaunched]

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6.

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Roobet

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Hhampuz

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Mar. 17, 2020

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60

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900

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$3,570

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$70

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Gambling

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7.

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Rollbit

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Hhampuz

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Mar. 26, 2021

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45

|

900

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$2,975

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$80

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Gambling

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8.

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Yo!Mix

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Royse777

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Jan. 11, 2023

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33

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825

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$2,245

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$130

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Mixer

|

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9.

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Unijoin

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icopress

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Apr 03, 2023

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30

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700+

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0.0936 BTC

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0.0036 BTC

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Mixer

|

|

10.

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Coinomize

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julerz12

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Jan 15, 2023

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26

|

650+

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$1,800+

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$130

|

Mixer

|

|

11.

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BestChange

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Best_Change

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Jan. 13, 2020

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25

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625

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$2,650

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$130

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Exchange

|

|

12.

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BC.Game

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icopress

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June 19, 2023

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19

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570

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0.0492 BTC

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0.003 BTC

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Gambling

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13.

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[banned mixer]

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icopress

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June 19, 2023

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-

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-

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-

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-

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Mixer

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14.

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Freebitco.in

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Hhampuz

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Mar. 06, 2020

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19

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475

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$1,395

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$80

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Gambling

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15.

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Betcoin

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Hhampuz

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July. 31, 2020

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30

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450

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$1,500

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$50

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Gambling

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16.

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OzoneChain

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Sujonali1819

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May 28, 2023

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20

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400

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$1,220

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$100

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[ReLaunched]

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|

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Mixero

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Royse777

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Nov. 27, 2022

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15

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375

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$1,500

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$125

|

[PAUSED]

|

|

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BetterCallRaul

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Royse777

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Mar. 27, 2023

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15

|

375

|

900

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$100

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[SCAM]

|

|

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Sherbet.com

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Royse777

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Feb 22, 2023

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15

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375

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$1030

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$130

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[PAUSED]

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|

17.

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TrustDice

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Hhampuz

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May. 23, 2022

|

18

|

360

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$990

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$70

|

Gambling

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|

18.

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VbetFTN

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Hhampuz

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May. 10, 2023

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15

|

300

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$945

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$70

|

Gambling

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19.

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Fortunejack

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Hhampuz

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Feb. 18, 2022

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13

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260

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$1060

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$100

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Gambling

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20.

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LiveCasino

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Cro2 Team

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Jun. 9, 2022

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10

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250

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$1,125

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$125

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Gambling

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21.

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Utopia

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joeperry

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Jan. 06, 2023

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10

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250

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$550

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$60

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[Relaunched]

|

|

22.

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COINSLOTTY

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Cro2 Team

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May 4, 2023

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10

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225

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$850

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$100

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Partly private and with varying bonuses

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|

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Flush.com

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Little Mouse

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Oct. 05, 2021

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10

|

200

|

900

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$90

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[PAUSED]

|

|

23.

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AgoraDesk

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icopress

|

April 12, 2023

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10

|

200

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$700

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$80

|

Exchange

|

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24.

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l0tt0.com

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BoXXoB

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Jun 20, 2023

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5

|

125

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-

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-

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Gambling

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25.

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Crypto.games

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DogecoinMachine

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Jun 06, 2015

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5

|

125

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$360

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$80

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Gambling

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NOTES:

• The weekly budget is calculated by the number of participants in the campaign and the amount of posts they are expected to make. Sometimes the participants do not make up to the expected posts and the weekly payment would definitely be less than the maximum weekly payment for that week
• Some budgets are calculated with approximate estimation, such as Stake where the number of posts made per week vary greatly

IMPORTANT INFO:

• There are 25 active bitcoin paying signature campaigns in Bitcointalk. Out of the 25, Gambling campaigns constitute 52% Mixer campaigns constitute 30% while others make 17%.
• Duelbitsis the highest employer of BTT members (112 participants).
• Duelbits spends the most in campaign payment ($6,965 peer/week)
• Whirlwindis the highest paying campaign per participant ($150/week), not bonus base.
• Crypto.games is the active longest lasting campaign launched on the 6th day of June, 2015

CONCLUSION:
This thread was not created to measure the financial strength of any company. Rather the purpose of creating this thread is to enable project owners who would want to launch a signature campaign to estimate their budget and know the kind of exposure they will get with their budget.
This thread will no doubt help campaign managers to see how to arrange their campaigns to give their client best result.
This will also help project owners who like prestige to re-adjust their funds in order to occupy a better spot in the forum.

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[rby]

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[decodx]

What an interesting topic, and I can see that you've put in a lot of effort to gather all this information. Well done!

It'd be cool to compare this data with past campaigns, don't you think? Maybe we could focus only on the ones that lasted longer than a month, for instance. Have you given that any thought?

[yahoo62278]

Nice job. This thread should be a little more useful to campaign managers looking to provide info to potential employers such as budget. My only suggestion would be place an asterisk or remove 1xbit completely. Needs to be a note at minimum that they are a scam company although i'd rather them just not get any sort of exposure.

[rby]

It'd be cool to compare this data with past campaigns, don't you think? Maybe we could focus only on the ones that lasted longer than a month, for instance. Have you given that any thought?

When you say past campaigns, how do we filter it? Past campaigns this year or since the forum started?
It would be interesting I think. But I do not think that it will have great importance.
Will it be a way to invite the ended campaigns to re-launch their campaign.
Comparing past campaigns to the present, without data I think the present campaigns are gaining more visibility maybe because of the recent inflow of Mixer campaigns with high budgets.

Nice job. This thread should be a little more useful to campaign managers looking to provide info to potential employers such as budget. My only suggestion would be place an asterisk or remove 1xbit completely. Needs to be a note at minimum that they are a scam company although i'd rather them just not get any sort of exposure.

I would also want them not to get some kind of exposure. But I reluctantly included them because the forum still allow them to advertise here.
I already gave a remark of "scam accusation" in the remark section of the table. I would have to turn the color to red. This could help.

[decodx]

It'd be cool to compare this data with past campaigns, don't you think? Maybe we could focus only on the ones that lasted longer than a month, for instance. Have you given that any thought?

When you say past campaigns, how do we filter it? Past campaigns this year or since the forum started?
It would be interesting I think. But I do not think that it will have great importance.

Maybe limit it to campaigns from the past year or something similar. Another filter that I already mentioned is to ignore all campaigns that had a short lifespan.

I would have to turn the color to red. This could help.

Indeed, that would be good. To my knowledge, none of our reputable members have participated in their campaigns, so it's hard to tell if they're even real or merely a hoax.

[coin-investor]

Duelbits has a huge number of participants and allocation and I'm surprised that they can still keep up with the campaign they have one of the longest campaigns they are going for their third year now, besides Stake, Duelbits rule it over the gambling section, but I don't rule out other gambling platforms to add more participants like what Betcoin did.

Will we have more Duelbits and Stakes-like strategies employing a big number of participants for maximum visibility, it will be much better if we can insert the date when the campaign started for reference.

[Stalker22]

Hey rby, thanks a lot for sharing this informative thread! It is great to have all this info in one place, and to be able to check out the budgets for different signature campaigns in the forum. I was wondering though, can you also include the duration of each campaign in the table? I feel like that could impact the visibility of the project as well. Just a suggestion.

[Eternad]

By means of visibility, Does the view on the thread which the post of signature campaign participants being considered? Because there’s a chance that this high volume of participants is just posting on mega threads which doesn’t viewed most of the time of other user because the replies is already TLDR.

Nice collection of data you got there. This some is data analysis that missing on the original Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns.

I was wondering though, can you also include the duration of each campaign in the table?

This is a good addition so that project will have a better overview on how signature campaign works in long term rather than paying high but with short term target.

[Darker45]

I kind of agree with Eternad. I guess visibility shouldn't immediately be equated with the number of posts per week or the number of participants. There are other factors for a post, and therefore the signature, to be more visible than another.

BestChange, for example, implements a rule that only 2-3 posts made on threads beyond 5 pages are to be counted. This is because mega threads are usually full of spam and posts beyond the 5^th page are more easily missed than those made in the first 2 pages. Also, posts that are already buried deep in mega threads are normally less interesting because they are most probably just repetition of earlier posts, and posters probably didn't even read everything before joining the discussion.

Another factor perhaps is the level of influence of the user wearing it. If theymos, for example, wears a signature, it becomes very visible to everybody even if he only makes a single post per week.

Perhaps a more reliable measurement of visibility is the number of visits made to their websites through signatures, or perhaps the number of users referred by signature links.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Duelbits has a huge number of participants and allocation and I'm surprised that they can still keep up with the campaign they have one of the longest campaigns they are going for their third year now, besides Stake, Duelbits rule it over the gambling section, but I don't rule out other gambling platforms to add more participants like what Betcoin did.

I am not. If these companies spend so much money on advertising, it is because they get more money in return from it. This compilation shows that a strong and long-term investment in advertising can be very profitable.

Will we have more Duelbits and Stakes-like strategies employing a big number of participants for maximum visibility, it will be much better if we can insert the date when the campaign started for reference.

Well, it depends. We would all like to see more companies investing heavily and for the long term, but not all of them do, and after a few weeks they stop. Of course, let's hope that this compilation will encourage more companies.

[libert19]

Wondering why is MegaPari not here?

Edit: stupid me. I was participating in campaign myself and didn't realize it was discontinued.

[Potato Chips]

Wondering why is MegaPari not here?

It is paused indefinitely

At week#22 we are in a pause now as said yesterday. You are free to remove your signature and avatar.

Once there is an update from the team I will let you know.

please tell me you already know this as I see you wearing their sig 👀

[Jawhead999]

@OP I don't quite understand about the "remark" because you're mixing many thing either to promote the manager, the project's promotion, the special condition of the campaign, the project niche, etc.

But it's a great list and we can check those campaigns because they're publicity the payout and how many members they accept.

I always curious when it's about private deal campaigns e.g. coinslotty, bitcasino, sportsbet.

please tell me you already know this as I see you wearing their sig 👀

Or he had a private deal with the project

[libert19]

Wondering why is MegaPari not here?

It is paused indefinitely

At week#22 we are in a pause now as said yesterday. You are free to remove your signature and avatar.

Once there is an update from the team I will let you know.

please tell me you already know this as I see you wearing their sig 👀

Oh I must have missed that, thought Royse would update on telegram too if there was an update.

[rby]

Will we have more Duelbits and Stakes-like strategies employing a big number of participants for maximum visibility, it will be much better if we can insert the date when the campaign started for reference.

I personally will advise the manager of stake campaign Carollzinho to redesign the stake campaign. Stake is a long term campaign and they spend reasonable amount of money to promote their brand here, yet they are not seen as prestigious campaign. Many people tag their participants spammers.
With over $6,000 weekly budget of stake, they can employ more than 60 participants and make a flat rate of $100 per participants. You can make the required posts per week to be 30 and then 15 of the 30 posts should come from the gambling boards. With this method their campaign will still have obe of the highest visibility in the gambling section while maintaining sanity and some more exceptional members of the forum could join their campaign.

I was wondering though, can you also include the duration of each campaign in the table?

This is a good addition so that project will have a better overview on how signature campaign works in long term rather than paying high but with short term target.

I have seen more than one suggestion to add the date the campaigns started. I will have to add it asap on the next edit.

[Rikafip]

I kind of agree with Eternad. I guess visibility shouldn't immediately be equated with the number of posts per week or the number of participants. There are other factors for a post, and therefore the signature, to be more visible than another.

True, but how exactly to measure quantify quality of members, amount of posts, places where those posts are written etc? Its an impossible task imho and what OP did is the 2nd best thing.

With over $6,000 weekly budget of stake, they can employ more than 60 participants and make a flat rate of $100 per participants. You can make the required posts per week to be 30 and then 15 of the 30 posts should come from the gambling boards. With this method their campaign will still have obe of the highest visibility in the gambling section while maintaining sanity and some more exceptional members of the forum could join their campaign.

Times where $100 per week could get you a top quality members are long gone as there's more spots in signature campaigns than there are quality members meaning even subpar posters can get into a pretty decent campaign. 

[examplens]

I have seen more than one suggestion to add the date the campaigns started. I will have to add it asap on the next edit.

The longevity of the campaign is a very important thing. Maybe just add the number of weeks of the campaign, but that will require a weekly update and some extra work for you only that parameter.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I have seen more than one suggestion to add the date the campaigns started. I will have to add it asap on the next edit.

The longevity of the campaign is a very important thing. Maybe just add the number of weeks of the campaign, but that will require a weekly update and some extra work for you only that parameter.

This coupled with the fact that some campaigns open, pause and then re-open again after some few weeks will really be a lot of work as it would be had to track and the comparisons/data may become inaccurate.

What OP had done so far is a superb job, I couldn't ask for anymore. Kudos.

[Trofo]

Nice job. This thread should be a little more useful to campaign managers looking to provide info to potential employers such as budget. My only suggestion would be place an asterisk or remove 1xbit completely. Needs to be a note at minimum that they are a scam company although i'd rather them just not get any sort of exposure.

Agree with this, scam company and I don't think there is any member of that campaign I don't have on ignore Don't like to see any exposure for them as well.

@rby superb job, and I don't know how this could be done better. I will just list some of the shortcomings of current format and maybe you or somebody else can find a way to mitigate some of them. Don't think of this as critique even though it will probably sound like it  

1. For instance just looking at LiveCasino campaign I am managing, if I was writing the info in the table only campaign name and participants number would stay as they are now. All other info is not 100% correct even though I feel it is clearly shown in our spreadsheet and rules. If there are mistakes in such small campaign then I have to take all the other info with a bit of reserve as well.

2. Number of posts per week as main metric of campaign visibility is not good enough criteria to measure. For instance Stake campaign is on the top of the list while I would personally argue they are generating so much spam that it even has negative exposure. But that is quite subjective and I don't know how somebody can incorporate it into something meaningful.

3. Place where posts are written should be valued in same way as well. I will again mention Stake since I am basically in gambling sections all the time. Most of their members are writing in spam mega threads that are mostly ignored by good members. Resulting with increasing post counts in threads that are only frequented by other spammers, where nobody is even reading the posts before adding their own. To be fair I am guilty of facilitating some of that as well since I am creator of English Premier league thread for instance and that one has been hit quite badly with spammers. So bad in fact that I am doing all my Premier League discussion in paid pool thread. But that is my dilemma and problem for some other thread.