IS IT SAFE TO INVEST PENSION FUNDS IN BITCOIN?

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.

OP, like you said, someone asked if they could invest their pension in Bitcoin. I don't have a certain answer to give here because there are some things you have not mentioned. First, this person that is asking you for this advice: is he or she educated about Bitcoin or just has partial knowledge? Secondly, how old is this person?

In my country, the government retires workers at the age of 65 or if they have worked for 40 years. Just as you have said that the person said it's their pension savings, that means he has been saving his pension money since his retirement and is definitely still receiving his pension since he's still alive.

If this person is still very healthy and active, if he or she is very knowledgeable about Bitcoin, and if they are ready to take the risk after you might have explained it to them, then it's good. explained the risk of investing in Bitcoin to them, tell them how Bitcoin works, and allowed them to decide if they wanted to invest or not. This is not a decision you will take for them, but after you have explained everything to them, let them say, Yes, I understand the risk and I want to go ahead with it.

But if the money is so huge that they want to invest it all, that's where you know how to tell them no! and tell them that instead of investing all of it at once, let it be divided and invested gradually on a DCA strategy. Also, if the person is just receiving his monthly pension and wants to invest, let them only invest 20 or 30% of the monthly pension or the % should be as it suits them.

explained the risk, tell them what it entails to invest in Bitcoin, and allowed them to make the decision, saying, "Yes, I have considered all the risk factors, but I want to go on with the investment."

Note: This is not an investment advice.

For someone recieving pension payment means that the age of the individual is above retirement and that means he doesnt have much time to invest in bitcoin and waiting for tge next five to ten years for the investment to mature, so someone in that class will need to invest on some physical investment or business that will bring a daily return not long term.

@wiwo,  A person receiving a pension is already an old person who is retired from a government job and is entitled to a pension until they die. Even if the person is old but it still depends on their age and how healthy the person is. my grandpa  is a pensioner, he is 80 years old now and yet his is still strong very much healthy, he retired at the age of 60 and if he had been investing 20 or 30% of his pension, he would have accumulated up to 1+ Bitcoin because is about 20 years now since he retired. Bitcoin even got developed while he was still working, lol. But I wish he had knowledge of it. But even if he had invested at the time he was 70 year old, he would have still waited till today.

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[Stalker22]

Retirement funds are meant to be the sweet reward for all your hard work, not a gamble on risky investments. Sure, Bitcoin might seem like a hot investment, but when it comes to your pension funds, it is better to play it safe. If you are really keen on investing in Bitcoin, just make sure it is with money you can afford to lose.

[gunhell16]

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

It's not bad if you believe Bitcoin is what it can give you in the future. If you have a pension fund maybe I can advise you even if you live at least 50% of your pension for yourself.

Then another 50% of your pension fund you will allocate to Bitcoin it is if you do not have another source of income resources other than your pension. But if you have any other business to do then maybe at this point I can say that even if it is just my opinion it is okay to put all your pension funds in Bitcoin and wait for the right time if You want it to sell although there is a risk anyhow.

[AnonBitCoiner]

Putting money of retirement is not good idea because of its risky feature but from retirement fund a little portion can be used for investment.  We know that how successful bitcoin is but we also know that it is unstable so its important for us that try to know the fact that something is better than nothing.

 if a person puts overall retirement fund in bitcoin and unfortunately the market goes in dip then he will think that retirement fund was better than desire for making more money. I don't say that bitcoin is not good investment, yes it's really good but we cannot hide the fact of its uncertainty.

[Ndabagi01]

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.

You have a good point based on the large profit return you would receive from long-term bitcoin investing. However, spending pension funds is extremely dangerous because this is money that will be needed for sustainability for the rest of one's life after retirement. He can invest some of the money but not all of it. Waiting and relying on big interest in the coming years when the market is volatile is fraught with risk. He should only invest what he can afford to lose, and a pension fund is not something that anyone should risk losing.

However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

Every company that handles people's money does this, and while some lose money, others make a lot of money. Companies like these have a separate fund to compensate for large losses in such investments. However, doing it as an individual is dangerous.

[tvplus006]

Pension capital cannot be invested in risky instruments, which certainly include cryptocurrency and in particular bitcoin. In this case, the preservation of capital is a more significant goal than the possibility of obtaining super profits in which there is a high probability of losing money.

[Hamza2424]

pENSION  FUNDS should not be invested still if yu want to invest for the Kids then...
Pension funds are of two types one of them you get all at once and the other you get slowly in different partitions of specific amounts so you need to figure out your needs first then you can calculate the funds amount you want to invest. In my view for more returns, you should invest your funds even if it's risky but it's rewarding. For the first case, you can invest your fund's major portion in the market and enjoy good returns in less time but at the same time if it 2nd the case then you can invest funds gradually It will be a slow and risk-free process and higher the risk higher the reward theory works in the investment markets.

In both cases, you can go for the DCA and it will work for you with good efficiency as its pension funds if you have kids then for their future you should take the investment steps to secure their bright future.

[Falconer]

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving. I am skeptical of investing people's funds in this coin because it can't be predicted also we cannot overlook the fact that Bitcoin may enhance investment returns at retirement.
However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

The risk to be aware of is that returns from bitcoin investments are never guaranteed due to various factors. If your friend invests in bitcoin for the long term, he can also practice good security on the wallet he holds, so he's likely to be able to get return when bitcoin is more expensive. But it is not recommended to invest 100% of the budget in bitcoins without having extra reserves for your urgent needs.

If your friend wants to do it, then suggest him to invest 10% to 50% of his total retirement budget. I think the returns will be worth it when bitcoin hit new ATH in the years to come. But remember, secure the storage wallet and choose the recommended wallet to store it

[Wiwo]

@wiwo,  A person receiving a pension is already an old person who is retired from a government job and is entitled to a pension until they die. Even if the person is old but it still depends on their age and how healthy the person is. my grandpa is a pensioner, he is 80 years old now and yet he is still strong and very much healthy, he retired at the age of 60 and if he had been investing 20 or 30% of his pension, he would have accumulated up to 1+ Bitcoin because is about 20 years now since he retired. Bitcoin even got developed while he was still working, lol. But I wish he knew of it. But even if he had invested at the time he was 70 years old, he would have still waited till today.

Yeah, I understand the point of accumulation and the role of thindividual'sls health to ascertain how Long their keep receiving that pensions payment event though the amount is far less than their annual salary when in service, and pensions are paid from the percentage deduction from individual monthly salary while in service so that in itself is also an investment just that it doesn't yield interest.

Haven't said that, let me move to the main point of this comment which is on the issues of age and how viable Bitcoin is for such investment, taking that your ground has accumulated 1+BTC and at the age of 80+, how long will he be willing to wait for the 1 bit to gain massive returned that could meet up to the old traditional economic demands and high inflation rate.

Can your ground pa wait for 10 years without any panic or health challenge that could force him to sell at a loss since he depends on the pension for his sustainability, I am not trying to dispute the fact that it can be taken as an inheritance means of investment that can be passed on to his benefactor instead of taking it as an immediate investment.

[disconnectme]

I will say it is safe to invest Pension Funds into Bitcoin, I won't say it is safe to do so like 3 or 4 years ago, but with all that Bitcoin has weathered in the past years and still comes out stronger every time, I will say it worth the risk, just look at the number of banks that went under this year, some people would have considered them safe. With the level of investment in Bitcoin infrastructure and the number keeps increasing plus the potential for ETF approval in the future BTC will continue to be one of the best-performing assets in the world

[BitDane]

We all know Bitcoin will break its ATH but we are unsure when it will happen.  We have the hint but still, it can't be considered a fact since it does not happen yet.  I would say Bitcoin is a good investment for pension fund but it is always best to invest what the client is afford to lose.  We can set a percentage of the pension funds as allocation to invest in Bitcoin.  It is much better if the percentage allocation is the amount that the client can afford to lose.  This way, the client won't missed out on the profit on Bitcoin if it surge and at the same time won't be greatly affected if the Bitcoin market uptrend is derailed or delayed.

There is a saying that we shouldn't put our eggs in one basket and it should also be applied in every investment regardless where the fund is coming from.

[Cryptomultiplier]

Unless the pensioner has other sources of income at the time of investing in Bitcoin, it is a risky idea to go all in with such funds.
It is also risky without an upgrade of ones knowledge of the Bitcoin space and market cap before entrusting such huge pension funds to a broker.
 To learn how to monitor and safe guard such an account both from scammers, hackers and even market volatility, is key.
It is just common sense to avoid being a liability incase the Bitcoin or the wallet gets lost. Thus the importance of other sources of income.
Remembering to always invest with money one can afford to loose is key too.
If you are doing the investing yourself, what strategy would you use? Is that the safest for you?
How would you keep passwords and key phrases safe and out of reach of friends, other families or visitors?

This is just to provide an insight of what to expect before considering investment of pension funds in Bitcoin.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Haven't said that, let me move to the main point of this comment which is on the issues of age and how viable Bitcoin is for such investment, taking that your ground has accumulated 1+BTC and at the age of 80+, how long will he be willing to wait for the 1 bit to gain massive returned that could meet up to the old traditional economic demands and high inflation rate.

Can your ground pa wait for 10 years without any panic or health challenge that could force him to sell at a loss since he depends on the pension for his sustainability, I am not trying to dispute the fact that it can be taken as an inheritance means of investment that can be passed on to his benefactor instead of taking it as an immediate investment.

Good. I like that you made mention of the inheritance part, because that is exactly what I wanted to say. Perhaps if they have such an investment, they have children or grandchildren that can inherit it.

Also, with the pension he is receiving, since the pension is paid every month, he can still pay for his bills with part of his monthly pension while still having his Bitcoin investment. His children can even assist with some bill payments. But the fact here is that all these old people don't usually have much in the way of needs or bills to pay because they have children that are sustainable for them too. What can I say? It's just good to invest if they want to; according to the OP, he should not just be the one making the investment decision for them.

[GreatArkansas]

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However, my findings from people that work in these organizations say contributor's funds in some categories can be invested in risky investments because of the high return on investment and contributors have the option to opt for this option but with the exception of the soon-to-retiree.

If that pension fund is the only one you are relying on example, you don't have any more extra money. Then I can say, it's not safe to use that for investment in Bitcoin (even non-Bitcoin). In investing, you should be aware and always put in your mind that investment is a risk, you can't guarantee profits once you invest because no one will know what will be the future of every market.
There are a lot of people crying or disappointed because they lost money that they can't afford to lose.

[adaseb]

You can buy the etf instead. Which is safer and you don’t need to worry about custody. The larger issue is that there are fees and the BTC etf is driven by the futures and they roll the contracts from time to time. So the longer you hold those etf you might different from the NAV price. Hence it’s not wise to buy certain ETFs for a retirement account because the fees will add up. If you want to just long it for a short while like 6 months or a year then it shouldn’t be much of an issue.

[MFahad]

Government provides pension when a person get retired or completed his work for 60 years and I think there is no need of saving because Government offers you money after 60 years without any job and this is enough to fulfill one's need. But if a person want to make Investment then from  monthly pension he can  save little amount in Bitcoin it will be beneficial for him. I think everyone should save some money for their children no matter in which form may be its in bitcoin form or some another business but its the better way, also use little amount so you will have no worries at all whenever business drops or reduces in price.

[Distinctin]

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving.<...>

If he has to ask, I'd say no. Not because I don't think bitcoin is a safe investment, but because I don't think he's ready to take that kind of risk.

While I am relatively new to this field, I've met many people who have asked a similar question. From my experience, I've learned that it is best to exercise caution while giving investment advice. I'm sure you've heard the saying: "Do your research". It holds true in this context as well.

I would actually do the same. Most especially for retirees, this is not the time to take high risk investments, instead enjoy your pension funds and do whatever you want with your money so that you can say to yourself that you’re actually living a good and meaningful life before you rest in peace. Though bitcoin can be seen as a profitable investment, but it’s not suited to those who have fainted hearts.

[ningrum]

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving.<...>

If he has to ask, I'd say no. Not because I don't think bitcoin is a safe investment, but because I don't think he's ready to take that kind of risk.

While I am relatively new to this field, I've met many people who have asked a similar question. From my experience, I've learned that it is best to exercise caution while giving investment advice. I'm sure you've heard the saying: "Do your research". It holds true in this context as well.

I would actually do the same. Most especially for retirees, this is not the time to take high risk investments, instead enjoy your pension funds and do whatever you want with your money so that you can say to yourself that you’re actually living a good and meaningful life before you rest in peace. Though bitcoin can be seen as a profitable investment, but it’s not suited to those who have fainted hearts.

Investing in Bitcoin is certainly for the long term which requires patience,
especially for retirees, I think if you really want to invest, of course you need to consider many things and choose an investment with a small risk.

[jeraldskie11]

Even while you will profit in Bitcoin when the time comes, I believe it is not prudent to invest your pension funds. There is no definite period when you will be lucrative with your Bitcoin investment. Don't invest in Bitcoin if you need money. Simply investing a small amount in Bitcoin ensures that it will not be used for your daily necessities. I don't see Bitcoin as a risk because you won't lose money if you don't sell it, just store it in a secure wallet. The only problem I see in Bitcoin is you cannot predict when it will arrive at your selling price and that's really what "investment" mean.

[Bananington]

I spoke to a friend about Bitcoin and he asked if it is safe to invest Pension funds in Bitcoin considering the fact that this is a retirement saving.

Pension funds can be your last hope as a source of income when you retire from working in a government sector or some private businesses. Any decision whether it regards investment or not has to be carefully thought out and not made in a hurry. Your friend can choose to invest some percentage of his pension funds since the money paid periodically,  but he should not make the mistake of investing all his pension funds in bitcoin. That risk may too much for him to even carry considering his state of health after retirement, a time when he is old already.