I saw Kong Cash and Offline Cash notes pop up somewhere maybe a year ago or so, but didn't really look in to. I spoke with a fellow forum collector who notified a discord group about this company. He owns some of the Offline notes, and they refuse to respond to him for help (it's been several months). They seem to have abandoned this project (app is not working), and continued on with their other product (with a different website) Kong Cash.
Having multiple websites for the same thing essentially has been a common theme among makers who are looking to be netherious. This absolutely doesn't guarantee that, it's speculation here..but I've seen this many times, and it's been done so for a reason, and not a good one.
Both of these notes seem to have some sort of time lock smart contract ( of course they claiim they were first, which they weren't, Yogg was).
So these offline cash notes have this time-lock, and both parties must work together to redeem if you're doing so before the time lock is up. So what if they go mia?.. "If we stop supporting the Bitcoin Note or refuse to release the decryption key for the manufacturer key, you can use the source code of the mobile applications to build the app and claim funds after the “claim before” date printed on the note".
Great, but your app doesn't work so...So if you've got a funded Offline Cash note right now and want to redeem...YOU CANT. (This is like the Titan 2FA deal).
As for Kong Cash..I've never seen a more convoluted nonsensical word salad white paper like theirs. I've read many WPs, and there's takes the cake. Their WP is 16 pages of an almost guaranteed brain aneurysm. Here's where things lie with this..I NEED HELP! As many of you know, I'm not Mr Robot. This WP is convoluted with technical cryptographic, coding, programmer language type stuff that I just can't understand. It seems to me that with Kong there is some level of them being needed to be involved for redemption as well...but again..I can't understand it. What I do know, and I'm sure you Mr Robots would agree with me..there's so much unnecessary world salad nonsense going on here..and I believe it might be on purpose. Why ? When people get confused they will often simply give up, and its no different here in this space..that could potentially be a way for them to keep funds for down the road of those who gave up trying to redeem. Here's that WP -
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmbHnwBuM7Y41Q1DqnMDRx8yQ1aCMtqVka9biPY6cjWogqKong's site-
https://kong.cash/Offline Cash-
https://offline.cash/Again, I really need some help here. I'm going to finish reading the WP and digging in both websites further as well as try to find out who exactly owns both these companies and how they are established (is this an LLC company?) and where are they are registered (is it in Europe, the US..or perhaps Dubai or the British Virgin Islands..if the latter...massive red flag).
The forum member with some of these notes it going to try and fund and redeem one of his Offline Cash notes, doing so to help me out with looking in to all this. Of course I don't think it's possible,but we are going to test nonetheless..so stay tuned for that.
There's red flags galore around this company and it's notes. So that's why I wanted to make this thread before finishing my final "review"..people need to know ASAP. Of course I would never ever recommend funding these, and if you have either and somehow can redeem your notes..do it.
I will be working more on the Kong stuff..that note is 100x more convoluted and confusing..plus they seem to have some token attached to it.
Really appreciate anyone willing to help me here!
Here's their Apple apps and review. If you have an android and could share reviews there, would be appreciated!
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From Offline Cash
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From Kong ( why was there no developer response given here?!)
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