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This is not a complaint but just a heads up to anyone thinking of playing here on the basis of their original posts saying they wont KYC (i notice their newer posts do mention they may do it).

I was playing here yesterday and attempted a small ($200) withdrawal from a deposit with no bonus, which i had wagered several times. They rejected it and requested KYC.

Again, not a complaint and i knew they may do according to their terms but personally i like a try to avoid sending my ID in case of identity fraud etc.

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This is not a complaint but just a heads up to anyone thinking of playing here on the basis of their original posts saying they wont KYC (i notice their newer posts do mention they may do it).

I was playing here yesterday and attempted a small ($200) withdrawal from a deposit with no bonus, which i had wagered several times. They rejected it and requested KYC.

Again, not a complaint and i knew they may do according to their terms but personally i like a try to avoid sending my ID in case of identity fraud etc.

It is indeed misleading for a casino to publicly claim that they don't require KYC procedures for small withdrawal amounts when, in reality, they do. Such tactics can be seen as a deliberate ploy to entice new players, only to surprise them later with the demand for identity verification even for insignificant withdrawals. Can you provide some evidence and screenshots of their messages? I'm curious to see what they said and if they gave any reasons for why they're asking for KYC.


After going through all the messages from their representative on the forum, let me drop some quotes here for the reference:

Hello, KYC is not needed for depositing and withdrawing money.
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KYC will affect the withdrawal amount.

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2. We do not have to pass the KYC, money entry and withdrawal occurs without KYC for large sums will need to pass the KYC.

So, yeah, it seems like they were pretty clear in their statements about not needing KYC for small withdrawals. It's as if they deliberately tried to mislead players and lure them in with false promises.

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Again, not a complaint and i knew they may do according to their terms but personally i like a try to avoid sending my ID in case of identity fraud etc.

If you don't want to share your ID with this mushrooming casinos where identity threat might be likely high, then it's best to completely avoid gambling in them. Most of them came around here and claim they don't require KYC but just after a few weeks or months, they quietly update their terms of service and trap a lot of users who have made winnings with the KYC verification requirement

OP must edit every post he made about not requiring KYC. I don't trust a casino that uses such misleading information to attract users only to later their terms and conditions which is contrary

17.2. Know your Customer (“KYC”) Binobi reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation if it is necessary. Binobi reserves the right to restrict the Service, deposit, or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in Binobi Risk Department discretion. Binobi defined 7 days’ first response as eligible during the KYC procedure. The full procedure should be done in no more than 30 days after the first response from the Risk department via email at risk@binobi.io. In case of fraud suspicion and if the user declines the requested information from the Risk department or the eligible timeline will pass, Binobi reserves the right to close the access for the user's account permanently.

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Again, not a complaint and i knew they may do according to their terms but personally i like a try to avoid sending my ID in case of identity fraud etc.

If you don't want to share your ID with this mushrooming casinos where identity threat might be likely high, then it's best to completely avoid gambling in them. Most of them came around here and claim they don't require KYC but just after a few weeks or months, they quietly update their terms of service and trap a lot of users who have made winnings with the KYC verification requirement

OP must edit every post he made about not requiring KYC. I don't trust a casino that uses such misleading information to attract users only to later their terms and conditions which is contrary

17.2. Know your Customer (“KYC”) Binobi reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation if it is necessary. Binobi reserves the right to restrict the Service, deposit, or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in Binobi Risk Department discretion. Binobi defined 7 days’ first response as eligible during the KYC procedure. The full procedure should be done in no more than 30 days after the first response from the Risk department via email at risk@binobi.io. In case of fraud suspicion and if the user declines the requested information from the Risk department or the eligible timeline will pass, Binobi reserves the right to close the access for the user's account permanently.

We do not request KYC from all, only suspicious ones.

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We do not request KYC from all, only suspicious ones.

How does that make the situation any better? And why did you initially state that KYC is not necessary for smaller withdrawal amounts? Unless, of course, you consider $200 to be a "large sum," or perhaps you view depositing, playing, and trying to withdraw winnings from a casino as suspicious behavior?

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We do not request KYC from all, only suspicious ones.

How does that make the situation any better? And why did you initially state that KYC is not necessary for smaller withdrawal amounts? Unless, of course, you consider $200 to be a "large sum," or perhaps you view depositing, playing, and trying to withdraw winnings from a casino as suspicious behavior?

If the system issues an alert that a suspicious action has been noticed, then we ask for a withdrawal, the player of which has nothing detected, the withdrawal occurs without KYC confirmation.

For example: the game is prohibited on the site, and the person enters through the link and continues to play, or the system notices and sends us data about the suspicion.

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Hello, KYC is not needed for depositing and withdrawing money. Players can play from anywhere in the world where the gaming business is allowed. At the moment we have a restriction on the United States of America.

Your Terms and Conditions provide a much wider list of restricted territories:

For various legal or commercial reasons, we do not permit accounts to be opened or used by customers resident in certain jurisdictions, including but not limited to: Afghanistan, Algeria, Antigua & Barbuda, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bahrain, Belgium, Bhutan, Brunei, Bulgaria, Canada, Central African Republic, Chad, Côte d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North Korea), Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, Eritrea, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Guinea-Bissau, Hungary, Iran, Iraq, Iceland, Israel, Ireland, Italy, Jordan, Kuwait, Latvia, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Montenegro, Myanmar, Netherlands, Netherlands Antilles (Curacao, Sint Maarten, Bonaire, Sint Eustatius, and Saba, Aruba), Norway, Oman, Palestine, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Republic of the Congo, Reunion, Romania, Russia, Saint Martin, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Slovak Republic, Slovenia, Somalia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Syrian Arab Republic, Sudan, Suriname, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United Arab Emirates, United States (and its dependencies, military bases and territories i.e. U.S. Minor Outlying Islands, U.S. Virgin Islands), Vanuatu, Yemen. or other restricted jurisdictions ("Restricted Jurisdiction") that are reported by us from time to time.

Hello, that's right, this is a ban from the provider.

I wonder what countries are left to join to your site.

Also if you don't do KYC, how can you confirm that person is not from the restricted country? That doesn't seem to make sense unless you are just lying to regulators that you are complying with their blacklists.
I don't know, nothing really strikes as "reputable" to me. Eveb the gambling stats are not updating or no one is playing. Timestamp doesn't really make sense to me. Top players in your high roller list are playing with $0.20