[Opinion] Why translated topics are still on a single thread?

[Charles-Tim]

We do not have Nigeria local board before, but now we have it. Why translated topics are still on a single thread? I mean this thread: Info-thread: Translation of Useful English topics to Naija languages, pidgin etc

I think it should be translated for people that prefer pigin to be able to read it and also there can still be some discussion with some useful replies.

But what I just think about it is that any translated topics should be strictly about pidgin, English should not be allowed. This can be included to our local board rules if accepted.

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[Agbe]

We do not have Nigeria local board before, but now we have it. Why translated topics are still on a single thread? I mean this thread: Info-thread: Translation of Useful English topics to Naija languages, pidgin etc

The translation threads are in a single thread because it to avoid rampant (scatter) posting among users or a single user to avoid spamming. Any who want to make comment that tally with the concept and a topic there can do that.

I think it should be translated for people that prefer pigin to be able to read it and also there can still be some discussion with some useful replies.

The thread is only meant for pidgin language and any other language there is canceled. There thread is open for everyone who has a relevant discussion apart from the translated topics.

But what I just think about it is that any translated topics should be strictly about pidgin, English should not be allowed. This can be included to our local board rules if accepted.

Exactly. Pidgin language should be precise in the board rules so that when the rules are pin, everyone will see it.

[Coyster]

The translation threads are in a single thread because it to avoid rampant (scatter) posting among users or a single user to avoid spamming. Any who want to make comment that tally with the concept and a topic there can do that.  

That reason na because we been no get local board that time na, wetin we get that time na local thread, so e no get as the translation topics go dey for that thread, e for dey disrupt the discussion for that thread. Now wey we don get local board i think say anybody wey wan translate topic suppose open new thread run am for this local board so the topic go dey open for discussion and other users fit talk put for the matter. If you no know, for this single traslation thread discussions no dey allowed. See am:

Ps: This thread is off discussion; all discussion to done on the official Nigeria (Naija) with reference to this thread. DM for thread to be opened for posting your translation.

[Cryptomiles1]

But from wetin me dey see e go also better say all translated topics should in one place so that every body go know say na there all translation they go on than just creating separate topic, but any how if una say creating separate topic go better then no issues me dey for all and any one them choose we still do because all we want na for this local board mature heavily so that we fit achieve other sub-forum inside here, maybe at anytime we fit readjust wetin see say e no balance for here.

[Coyster]

But from wetin me dey see e go also better say all translated topics should in one place so that every body go know say na there all translation they go on than just creating separate topic, but any how if una say creating separate topic go better then no issues me dey for all and any one them choose we still do because all we want na for this local board mature heavily so that we fit achieve other sub-forum inside here, maybe at anytime we fit readjust wetin see say e no balance for here.

The matter no dey subjective, e no dey based on wetin one person want, wetin Charles-Tim suggest dey very good, the single thread for translated topics been make sense wella when we no get local board, but only local thread, but now wey we get local board if we want make users they follow put mouth for translated topics using pidging language to pass message to others, then we gats dey create new topic for them, the extant single translation thread no they open for discussion because na just one thread, and discussions there no go too make sense.

[Charles-Tim]

But from wetin me dey see e go also better say all translated topics should in one place so that every body go know say na there all translation they go on than just creating separate topic

I did not just come up with this idea, check other boards and see what I am implying. We do not have a single thread anymore, we now have a board. Translated topics supposed to have their own separate thread on Nigerian board. I hope CryptopreneurBrainboss, igebotz and other reputed members will leave their opinion about this.

It is translated and I also suggest only Pidgin on such thread.

[Cryptomiles1]

But from wetin me dey see e go also better say all translated topics should in one place so that every body go know say na there all translation they go on than just creating separate topic

I did not just come up with this idea, check other boards and see what I am implying. We do not have a single thread anymore, we now have a board. Translated topics supposed to have their own separate thread on Nigerian board. I hope CryptopreneurBrainboss, igebotz and other reputed members will leave their opinion about this.

It is translated and I also suggest only Pidgin on such thread.

No issues big man
All ideas are welcomed, me just dey for wetin go push us forward and positioned us in a better place.

[Hyphen(-)]

But from wetin me dey see e go also better say all translated topics should in one place so that every body go know say na there all translation they go on than just creating separate topic, but any how if una say creating separate topic go better then no issues me dey for all and any one them choose we still do because all we want na for this local board mature heavily so that we fit achieve other sub-forum inside here, maybe at anytime we fit readjust wetin see say e no balance for here.

I doubt if people de even look that translation thread self, and if dem no de read am, that means e no get any use for our local board.

I also support d suggestion for making the thread direct instead of posting the translated thread in one single thread in form of reply so that our people for here go de read am.

Na my opinion be that too.

[Igebotz]

But from wetin me dey see e go also better say all translated topics should in one place so that every body go know say na there all translation they go on than just creating separate topic

I did not just come up with this idea, check other boards and see what I am implying. We do not have a single thread anymore, we now have a board. Translated topics supposed to have their own separate thread on Nigerian board. I hope CryptopreneurBrainboss, igebotz and other reputed members will leave their opinion about this.

It is translated and I also suggest only Pidgin on such thread.

This is not a bad idea, but we must consider the negative consequences. Personally, I don't see any value in those translated posts because they are too long to read and the translation is done word for word, which is incorrect; if you must translate, you must read the entire post and then summarize it in pidgin for native speakers to understand.

Now, if individual threads are created for translated posts believe me, everyone on this board will want to translate every post they see on the English board back to the local board. I'm not saying it's a wrong, but I'm more concerned about the abuse and amount of spam this may bring.

I've already spoken about it with Brainboss and if the community want it that way why not but we should all be ready for what this might cause .

And for those of you translating Pidgin to the thread author on that thread should stop if the author want to write he should use English una dey mumu too much. Snitching for merits Tufiakwa

[Adbitco]

And for those of you translating Pidgin to the thread author on that thread should stop if the author want to write he should use English una dey mumu too much. Snitching for merits Tufiakwa

I don't even reason it that way because I believe that theh are trying their best to be creative and useful despite their aim is to gain merit but let it be is worth their efforts and spending to do some brain cracking translations. So don't blame any for their actions. My people say "anywhere belle face na there food dey" and also "where man dey work na there him dey chop from" so abeg no too put pressure for them only thing be say make we try set some restrictions or rules wey go govern them if not e go dey worst.

[Amphenomenon]

This is not a bad idea, but we must consider the negative consequences. Personally, I don't see any value in those translated posts because they are too long to read and the translation is done word for word, which is incorrect; if you must translate, you must read the entire post and then summarize it in pidgin for native speakers to understand.
Now, if individual threads are created for translated posts believe me, everyone on this board will want to translate every post they see on the English board back to the local board. I'm not saying it's a wrong, but I'm more concerned about the abuse and amount of spam this may bring.

If this is done then it won't be called Translation board but Summary board . But there are some posts outside this forum that are more helpful to us here but we can't just copy the post here (this would bring more spamming). So translating it brings lesser spamming, I know not all of the translated posts (in the board) are needed but some are. So if we can find a way to regulate the type of post translated then it will be better. Though I see that translating to pidgin the technical aspects of Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency is more useful.
But with all this I can say that we need moderators in as much as we need a child board in order to avoid spamming and other issues.

[Charles-Tim]

This is not a bad idea, but we must consider the negative consequences. Personally, I don't see any value in those translated posts because they are too long to read and the translation is done word for word, which is incorrect; if you must translate, you must read the entire post and then summarize it in pidgin for native speakers to understand.

If the post is long, the translation too will be long. The person that translate should have to know what the contents is all about, then translate it, not to summarize it in a translated language.

I've already spoken about it with Brainboss and if the community want it that way why not but we should all be ready for what this might cause .

I do not think it can cause anything unless what that are translated are not useful.

I think we should follow the proper way, each translated post should have its own separate thread, but if people on this local board find it now useful, they can agree to cancel pidgin translation, but I do not think that is what they want to go for.

[Hyphen(-)]

This is not a bad idea, but we must consider the negative consequences. Personally, I don't see any value in those translated posts because they are too long to read and the translation is done word for word, which is incorrect; if you must translate, you must read the entire post and then summarize it in pidgin for native speakers to understand.

To some extent, I do think that anybody wey de here with us de understand English so why translate the threads we can read to Pidgin again?; Although I translate some threads back then and I am not condemning the translation now, but that time we no get our Local Board which is why a separate thread was created for the translation but now that we have our own board, I they also suggest say make them allow people to de create a separate thread for the translated posts so that we fit account for people wey de visit the thread.

[Charles-Tim]

To some extent, I do think that anybody wey de here with us de understand English so why translate the threads we can read to Pidgin again?; Although I translate some threads back then and I am not condemning the translation now, but that time we no get our Local Board which is why a separate thread was created for the translation but now that we have our own board, I they also suggest say make them allow people to de create a separate thread for the translated posts so that we fit account for people wey de visit the thread.

Exactly. For me, a translated thread is not useful for me, no merit that I will send. But I can not because of that not which others to find it useful and send merit or comment. If most Nigerians do not prefer pidgin translation, not meriting it and not posting there would be enough to discourage it than having all translated posts on a single thread, while it supposed not to be like that anymore when we have our own board now.

[SatoPrincess]

This is not a bad idea, but we must consider the negative consequences. Personally, I don't see any value in those translated posts because they are too long to read and the translation is done word for word, which is incorrect; if you must translate, you must read the entire post and then summarize it in pidgin for native speakers to understand.

Now, if individual threads are created for translated posts believe me, everyone on this board will want to translate every post they see on the English board back to the local board. I'm not saying it's a wrong, but I'm more concerned about the abuse and amount of spam this may bring.

I've already spoken about it with Brainboss and if the community want it that way why not but we should all be ready for what this might cause .

And for those of you translating Pidgin to the thread author on that thread should stop if the author want to write he should use English una dey mumu too much. Snitching for merits Tufiakwa

I don get the same thought as OP before when I find out say all the translated topics still dey one thread even after we don get local board. E dey hard to scroll down the thread to find the topic you won read because the posts dey very long plus the images them way dey inside too.

When I reason the other side of allowing translated topics to get their individual thread, e go worry because like this we dey struggle to see quality posts, we go start to see newbies dey translate topics from 2014 just to make activity and merits. In my opinion o, I go like make we leave am the way e dey.

I suppose merit this your post Igebotz because you said my mind. saved!

[Charles-Tim]

I don get the same thought as OP before when I find out say all the translated topics still dey one thread even after we don get local board. E dey hard to scroll down the thread to find the topic you won read because the posts dey very long plus the images them way dey inside too.

When I reason the other side of allowing translated topics to get their individual thread, e go worry because like this we dey struggle to see quality posts, we go start to see newbies dey translate topics from 2014 just to make activity and merits. In my opinion o, I go like make we leave am the way e dey.

I suppose merit this your post Igebotz because you said my mind. saved!

Then why translating topics then? If a post that is translated is having quality, then the translated post too will have quality. This is how it is done on all other local boards, why this board so different?

I have no merit to give any translated post and I have no comment to make about it, but not worth it being on a single thread. I know that this will cause no harm and either translating evolves better or extinct would result. I am very certain about this. Not a threat towards quality posts.

[SatoPrincess]

Then why translating topics then? If a post that is translated is having quality, then the translated post too will have quality. This is how it is done on all other local boards, why this board so different?

I have no merit to give any translated post and I have no comment to make about it, but not worth it being on a single thread. I know that this will cause no harm and either translating evolves better or extinct would result. I am very certain about this. Not a threat towards quality posts.

Those who are into translating topics can answer those questions better. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I’m only saying what I think, others might find these topics interesting and beneficial but I don’t fancy them. I have read a few and the pigin version does not do justice to the message the original author is trying to convey, there are certain words that are hard to translate to pigin and in an attempt to do so, one can use a lingua that is misinterpreted by readers.

[Igebotz]

And for those of you translating Pidgin to the thread author on that thread should stop if the author want to write he should use English una dey mumu too much. Snitching for merits Tufiakwa

I don't even reason it that way because I believe that theh are trying their best to be creative and useful despite their aim is to gain merit but let it be is worth their efforts and spending to do some brain cracking translations. So don't blame any for their actions. My people say "anywhere belle face na there food dey" and also "where man dey work na there him dey chop from" so abeg no too put pressure for them only thing be say make we try set some restrictions or rules wey go govern them if not e go dey worst.

I don't have anything against people translating topics; I'm just against this kind of behavior, and I'll leave it below. If this user wants to communicate, he should use pure English like most of us since we don't really know how to write good pidgin English. I have my suspicions, but I'm not too sure.

Thank you nheer as you don translate this my topic go Pidgin English!  Great job!

This topic wey de about reputation for online systems na general code of conduct and we fit also apply am for our daily life. For online systems, however, e de very important.
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I have no merit to give any translated post and I have no comment to make about it, but not worth it being on a single thread. I know that this will cause no harm and either translating evolves better or extinct would result. I am very certain about this. Not a threat towards quality posts.

I'm not talking about merit, and as I mentioned yesterday, anyone who wants to translate should go ahead. However, they should use excellent pidgin rather than slang, and they shouldn't translate the text word for word. I like the notion of summarizing before translating in order to make it readable

[Mr.right85]

One tin way I go say Charles-Tim talk well b say, as e dey one thread so, 3 no allow pple 2 fit discuss am or ask question bt den, e get anybodi way bin wan evn talk pim abt am? I nevr see anybodi put interest nd i no evn shw say pple dey read am too. D few way don try, una well done. I read my own kwa as na me translate am bt, I no fit say I don put eye 4 orda pple own except say, I dey try study dere translation pattern. E too big 2 read

Anyhow e b, I no see any better way 2 discuss am Dan 2 go d original thread way fillippone bin create. Na em fit evn answer u well as na em b d originator nd e suppose sabi wella.
No nid 2 crack our head over dis one, e no b matter.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

We do not have Nigeria local board before, but now we have it. Why translated topics are still on a single thread? I mean this thread: Info-thread: Translation of Useful English topics to Naija languages, pidgin etc

Good suggestion, nothing bad to try am even though I no support the idea fully, this translation thread was made for the hangout thread when merit rush be come for translation posts and so far it served its purpose effectively and now since we dun get board, e make sense to stop am although I had some doubt on how spammy this place will look due to how poorly we dey translate (word for word, which can be very confusing) still e no stop the board from trying new things all for the sake of improving the board both in quantity and quality.

The new posts translation go definitely add more topics for discussion but I doubt the threads go get much engagement. Personally I dey against having empty threads as they sometimes represent less activities but for the sake of having more threads on the board I welcome the suggestion. Like this now as I dey write this post finish I go lock that thread and we can see how it goes. I pray it turns out to be very fruitful as all successful things here dey add glory to the board.