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May 12, 2023, 01:47:16 PM
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Any newcomer entering the cryptocurrency market at this time ought to be aware that it is a speculative one. They might have been informed when someone explained cryptocurrency to them, or they might have made this assumption based on their preconceived notions since the pricing at the time was different from what it is now. Since then, prices have fluctuated both upward and downward as a result of volatility, which cannot be forecast and can only be conjectured. This is one of the key issues that beginners encounter after making a full investment in cryptocurrencies without having enough awareness about its volatility. For newcomers, it has led to more disappointments than optimism.
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May 12, 2023, 02:09:38 PM
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What do you think?
Indeed the crypto market and all types of crypto that are traded including Bitcoin, based on speculative where all we know the risk of loss and so on can happen at any time, unexpectedly and in our minds, including an increase in the price of crypto on the market.

Not a few investors, crypto users who know the crypto market, who lose and also make big profits, it's all caused by speculative events that occur in the crypto market, for that we often see and read in all operating exchanges always have a warning, at the risk of loss we bear it.

I remember a saying that was said by an investor who stated.
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Trading on the crypto market is an act that is not based on reality, or just guessing so it has a high level of risk of failure.

Here we are aware, the actions we take in the crypto market cannot be separated from accuracy and so it is up to us to achieve something and vice versa.

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May 12, 2023, 02:14:56 PM
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What I think is that even if the market is volatile, I think that it's probably safe to assume that you can use that volatility to your advantage, I know that it's random but I'm sure there's nothing in this world that's absolutely random, studying how the market is moving can probably help you a lot since there's a pattern, for example the halving is always a guarantee in the growth of the bitcoin market.
Patterns do occur on all the markets that exist, so the movements themselves can be said to not be completely random, however the timing is a completely different history, the timing is really random as the markets are nothing more but the average of the movements of all the economic actors, and it is impossible to be able to predict beforehand how each one of those actors are going to respond to the conditions of the market and the conditions of the economy at the time, and this is what makes trading so difficult, as we know the price will go up at some point on the future, but when and how high is something no one can answer with certainty.
the market is probability, there's nothing wrong with everyone predicting the market according to a pattern that has happened before, but we'll see the facts when it's past the predicted time, but for me risk management will be more important, considering we will be balanced in the face of a market full of uncertainty, on the other hand we expect profit on a certain target, but on the other hand we must be able to accept predetermined risks because the market does not match predictions, that is if we trade, but to make long-term investments, I think it will be easier as long as investing in the right coin, it's just a matter of time and psychological adjustment

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May 15, 2023, 06:09:46 AM
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What do you think?
What I have learn in all trading and market that I entered? all is speculative mate unless those are manipulated place in which
only the whales are winning , but in crypto market and even in all trading platform < it is speculating is what it makes the world go round.


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For newbies in trading, you need to understand that the crypto market is a speculative and not stagnant. It moves up and down known as bull and bear respectively. Incase you don't know, now, how trade happens is when one buyer is speculating up another can speculate down and the exchange happens on the trading platform. For example when the price of btc is $28,000, someone is speculating it further to buy to $29,500 and another can speculate it to sell to $26,000. So depending on your chart and analysis, that determines your winning strength if you speculate rightly. Trading is speculative based on your technical analysis, indicators and fundamentals (news).
I think if you are newbie , there is no need to rush here , as forum of Bitcointalk is a complete package for us to learn and understand what and how it works.
just stay for a month reading , asking and understanding ? you will never lose huge (since losses is part of any profiteering as there is no assurance at all)

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May 17, 2023, 04:00:47 AM
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the market is probability, there's nothing wrong with everyone predicting the market according to a pattern that has happened before, but we'll see the facts when it's past the predicted time, but for me risk management will be more important, considering we will be balanced in the face of a market full of uncertainty, on the other hand we expect profit on a certain target, but on the other hand we must be able to accept predetermined risks because the market does not match predictions, that is if we trade, but to make long-term investments, I think it will be easier as long as investing in the right coin, it's just a matter of time and psychological adjustment
Most traders' strategies have been thwarted by FOMO and FUD; they disregard their plans and disciplinary measures in order to reap massive returns from the market, they forget the misery facts about the market, volatility liquidate trading accounts. Despite of the market's continual pump and dump projects, the market is volatile. Every trader has the ability to trade depending on the decisions they've made, but they must employ a solid trading strategy. In other words, trading is more effective for traders when they see their capital make large profits in the market. 

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May 17, 2023, 09:32:27 AM
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Whatever we do, everything here in crypto remains speculative. In fact, nobody here is ever sure that a project will turn scam but because our minds are proactive and very speculative, we can assess whether that particular project is a scam or not based on its performance and project designs. A reason why crypto investment never guarantees 100% secure, it is risky, and this kind of nature can't ever be changed even in the future. That is why we have to choose the project/s that gives us some assurance at least we also have a bigger chance to earn a profit, not losses.
There are altcoins that are more volatile compared to other tokens, they can be used for trading, but you need to understand that the risks of losing funds will be much greater. Volatility provides certain opportunities, whoever knows how to use it will make a profit, whoever fails, will say that cryptocurrencies are too dangerous and risky.

There are also many discussions that investing will always win relative to trading, you can take a period of active trading and see what result you have achieved during this time, is there any profit and if there is, then how significant is it, and look what result you can get from investment if you just invested that money for the same period in bitcoin. Trading can generate income, but you need to remember that only a few percent of traders are able to earn money, everyone else loses money.
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May 17, 2023, 04:32:46 PM
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Well, the recent condition of market is dramatically unstable and unprofitable for traders , as you see the prices go up and down although with a low value. Unfortunately, most of newbies are impatient and greedy, they would like to make a large profit without effort added and in short time, that’s impossible to happen especially during this rough period. From my perspective, it is preferable to purchase and HODL only the best cryptocurrencies ( like, Bitcoin and Ethereum ) for long term instead of taking the risk through daily trading for unguaranteed returns. For me, I highly doubt if Bitcoin will rise remarkably during this month. Probably, the highet price will be $40K in this year.
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May 17, 2023, 09:56:48 PM
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Of course, speculative is a sure thing in crypto trading because it is fast how investors get income because of 1 fast price. but not a few also fall there and then they feel they have failed in investing in crypto and then say this is a money game. here we have to be really observant in seeing the potential of a project to be able to generate or develop assets in the future.
Speculative people try to make a profit because they estimate where the price will move and speculate about the situation. But speculative will be successful if they can analyze market movements in the previous few days so that he can speculate. But if the speculation is to choose a potential project, we should not get our hopes up because one project can become a scam in the future. In addition, a project will look good at the start of its release, so we must be careful in choosing the project.
Whatever we do, everything here in crypto remains speculative. In fact, nobody here is ever sure that a project will turn scam but because our minds are proactive and very speculative, we can assess whether that particular project is a scam or not based on its performance and project designs. A reason why crypto investment never guarantees 100% secure, it is risky, and this kind of nature can't ever be changed even in the future. That is why we have to choose the project/s that gives us some assurance at least we also have a bigger chance to earn a profit, not losses.
We think that way because we want to benefit from every project we choose and buy tokens for, and it's only natural that we think that way. But again, we should look for more information to help us make decisions so we don't choose the wrong project. And as long as we can accept the risk of investing and only use the money we can afford, we won't be disappointed because we already know the risks. Investing in crypto does not guarantee that you will get a profit, especially if it is an altcoin or token. If we are wrong in analyzing the coin or token, we will not get a profit and must hold it until the price increases.
When we do make out some DYOR then we do usually having this kind of approach or things to be done;

1.  Doxxed Dev team
2. Whitepaper
3. Roadmap
4. Utility
5. Tokenomics
6. Community support/interest

Although even all of these things have been checked but still a project couldnt really give out an assurance that it would succeed
because everything would really be depending of projects success on how the Developer or the team would be pushing up on following on whats the written thing on their roadmap
or simply talking about the development.

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May 17, 2023, 10:56:54 PM
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There are also many discussions that investing will always win relative to trading, you can take a period of active trading and see what result you have achieved during this time, is there any profit and if there is, then how significant is it, and look what result you can get from investment if you just invested that money for the same period in bitcoin. Trading can generate income, but you need to remember that only a few percent of traders are able to earn money, everyone else loses money.
Those who earn a lot from trading must have a lot of experience and good trading analysis skills.
Only some of the traders will consistently earn profits and some of them lose money.

When compared to investing it is a different choice. Investing is for the long term, buying at the bottom and waiting for the price to rise to the target price.
In a few years it will pay off well, but as long as the Bitcoin market stays in good shape, investing is also paired with DCA, a strategy to buy at a lower price.

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From my perspective, it is preferable to purchase and HODL only the best cryptocurrencies ( like, Bitcoin and Ethereum ) for long term instead of taking the risk through daily trading for unguaranteed returns. For me, I highly doubt if Bitcoin will rise remarkably during this month. Probably, the highet price will be $40K in this year.
Buying and HOLD is good enough to do, as long as you are mentally strong and strong for the spare money you have.
Rather than taking risks for day trading, it requires good trading skills.
Don't try day trading if you don't have trading knowledge, it will only waste your money.

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Indeed, there is no guarantee whatsoever even though you have done fairly deep research.
Sometimes the project is good and the development team works quite optimally, but the project fails to get a hard cap.
There are many factors that can cause the project to fail even though the research is good.
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May 18, 2023, 09:42:53 AM
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What do you think?
What I have learn in all trading and market that I entered? all is speculative mate unless those are manipulated place in which
only the whales are winning , but in crypto market and even in all trading platform < it is speculating is what it makes the world go round.
There is manipulations in each market and the whales are mostly benefiting with it but if you have some good experiences, you will know the patterns and you can ride those manipulations to gain a benefit as well. If it's about the financial market, speculating, other than manipulation is what makes it go round but outside of it, some says love while in science, it says the gravity.

Newbie or not, rushing is not good but it can only cause a mess on the things that you are doing but newbies mostly needed it to be able to minimize the risk. The forum is free so no one will lose money here but we do all lose once we engage in trading or investing. It's normal though.

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May 18, 2023, 08:11:51 PM
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Whatever we do, everything here in crypto remains speculative. In fact, nobody here is ever sure that a project will turn scam but because our minds are proactive and very speculative, we can assess whether that particular project is a scam or not based on its performance and project designs. A reason why crypto investment never guarantees 100% secure, it is risky, and this kind of nature can't ever be changed even in the future. That is why we have to choose the project/s that gives us some assurance at least we also have a bigger chance to earn a profit, not losses.
There are altcoins that are more volatile compared to other tokens, they can be used for trading, but you need to understand that the risks of losing funds will be much greater. Volatility provides certain opportunities, whoever knows how to use it will make a profit, whoever fails, will say that cryptocurrencies are too dangerous and risky.

There are also many discussions that investing will always win relative to trading, you can take a period of active trading and see what result you have achieved during this time, is there any profit and if there is, then how significant is it, and look what result you can get from investment if you just invested that money for the same period in bitcoin. Trading can generate income, but you need to remember that only a few percent of traders are able to earn money, everyone else loses money.
This is true, while in theory traders can beat the performance of the investors, this is rarely the case, so buying bitcoin and holding it for the long term is not only an easier strategy to implement, it is also the one that on average is the most profitable out of the two, with that being said if you are an incredible trader and you have evidence that your trading strategy can definitely beat the performance given by the market then you can try to trade, still you need to be careful as great deal of traders believe themselves to be capable of this and almost no one fulfills their ambitions.

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May 18, 2023, 08:21:29 PM
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For newbies in trading, you need to understand that the crypto market is a speculative and not stagnant. It moves up and down known as bull and bear respectively. Incase you don't know, now, how trade happens is when one buyer is speculating up another can speculate down and the exchange happens on the trading platform. For example when the price of btc is $28,000, someone is speculating it further to buy to $29,500 and another can speculate it to sell to $26,000. So depending on your chart and analysis, that determines your winning strength if you speculate rightly. Trading is speculative based on your technical analysis, indicators and fundamentals (news).

What do you think?
Pretty much true I have to agree, but i think the speculation when it can be combined slightly with probabilities can become trading. You can add element of probability along with risk to reward ratio to ensure that outcomes which you are speculating gives you big profit but when the outcome is not in your favour you'll end up in small losses only.
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May 22, 2023, 02:38:50 PM
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For me, it's probably better to say that the market is predictive. It is also necessary to analyze the market to increase the probability that the market will go in the direction you want. However, we do not control the market so we are not the ones to decide instead we are the ones to adjust and conform to where the price can go. If you trade or invest in a speculative way, you will surely find it difficult to succeed in your crypto journey.
It is so, when we trade we surrender to our predictions and to believe in our vision of the market, but here it is advisable to try to go in the right direction so that things go well all the time and we can earn the benefits that we have always dear, it is normal that when we lose, because the amount is greater than when we win, that is something that we have to take into consideration, otherwise there would be no speculative markets, because a speculative market is everywhere, and we must adjust to it To win, if the price of a stock or currency goes up, we must win and if the price goes down, we must win with that price going down.

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May 22, 2023, 09:03:12 PM
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For newbies in trading, you need to understand that the crypto market is a speculative and not stagnant. It moves up and down known as bull and bear respectively. Incase you don't know, now, how trade happens is when one buyer is speculating up another can speculate down and the exchange happens on the trading platform. For example when the price of btc is $28,000, someone is speculating it further to buy to $29,500 and another can speculate it to sell to $26,000. So depending on your chart and analysis, that determines your winning strength if you speculate rightly. Trading is speculative based on your technical analysis, indicators and fundamentals (news).

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Pretty much true I have to agree, but i think the speculation when it can be combined slightly with probabilities can become trading. You can add element of probability along with risk to reward ratio to ensure that outcomes which you are speculating gives you big profit but when the outcome is not in your favour you'll end up in small losses only.

your speculation will be near to what may possibly happen if you have substantial reasons why you are predicting such trend to happen. meaning, you are also doing your due diligence and not blindly predicting what's next. doing your research and assessment according to actual developments of the project would be of great help. because such trend won't magically appear without reason. you can also enrich yourself with what may happen next to the coin or token if you will subscribe to their social media channels. because most of them are not sharing their plans on the site itself but within their socmed subscribers.

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May 22, 2023, 11:37:02 PM
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Whatever we do, everything here in crypto remains speculative. In fact, nobody here is ever sure that a project will turn scam but because our minds are proactive and very speculative, we can assess whether that particular project is a scam or not based on its performance and project designs. A reason why crypto investment never guarantees 100% secure, it is risky, and this kind of nature can't ever be changed even in the future. That is why we have to choose the project/s that gives us some assurance at least we also have a bigger chance to earn a profit, not losses.
Indeed. Each project can be dead or turn to be scammed at any time, no coin is 100% secure (especially altcoins). Even Bitcoin is possible to be dead due to some reasons. So, surely every investment in crypto coins is speculative. That's why crypto investment is categorized as a high-risk investment. However, we can learn how to deal with these conditions in crypto. At least, we learn the current issues about each coin we want to invest in and update the information about crypto as a whole. We also need to learn the price history of the coins we want to hold, so we can make a plan about the target. We mustn't hold the coins forever, there should be a short-term holding and a long-term holding. Choose the appropriate coins according to the target of holding them.


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May 23, 2023, 09:31:56 AM
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Well, the recent condition of market is dramatically unstable and unprofitable for traders , as you see the prices go up and down although with a low value. Unfortunately, most of newbies are impatient and greedy, they would like to make a large profit without effort added and in short time, that’s impossible to happen especially during this rough period. From my perspective, it is preferable to purchase and HODL only the best cryptocurrencies ( like, Bitcoin and Ethereum ) for long term instead of taking the risk through daily trading for unguaranteed returns. For me, I highly doubt if Bitcoin will rise remarkably during this month. Probably, the highet price will be $40K in this year.

We have traders making profits as the market is falling, trading Bitcoin through spot trading is the most popular ways of trading but not the only way you can trade. You can trade Bitcoin through future trading and make profit if the price rise or falls. It's a very risky way of trading and not recommended for everybody, only those that should trade like this are experience traders and not new traders just joining the market.

I also believe $40k can be the highest the market can go in the year, so we shouldn't be expecting the market to start pumping. And if Bitcoin doesn't go higher, I believe other coins will not pump as well. Every cryptocurency depends on the success of Bitcoin price to rise.

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This market, as well as many, is speculative, the beautiful thing about the bitcoin market is that the market is not controlled, this market can be controlled according to the money you have, otherwise there is no way to do it, in every speculative market it is full of institutions whales, and obviously the effects of the fundamentals that affect every market and if it is speculative, but the interesting thing about the crypto market is the volatility, whoever understands and manages volatility can make a lot of money and apart from that, it is a great plus, because volatility in the crypto market is unique and the main ingredient of this market.

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This market, as well as many, is speculative, the beautiful thing about the bitcoin market is that the market is not controlled, this market can be controlled according to the money you have, otherwise there is no way to do it, in every speculative market it is full of institutions whales, and obviously the effects of the fundamentals that affect every market and if it is speculative, but the interesting thing about the crypto market is the volatility, whoever understands and manages volatility can make a lot of money and apart from that, it is a great plus, because volatility in the crypto market is unique and the main ingredient of this market.

indeed volatility is a strong attraction for this market for some beginners who have the intention to invest. this is an opportunity to make a very attractive profit. Unfortunately, many beginners mistakenly think that they will get rich quickly by investing in crypto without knowing the risks of market volatility itself.
here the lack of understanding of the market and crypto assets becomes the main problem for beginners who just put their money in a hurry.
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This market, as well as many, is speculative, the beautiful thing about the bitcoin market is that the market is not controlled, this market can be controlled according to the money you have, otherwise there is no way to do it, in every speculative market it is full of institutions whales, and obviously the effects of the fundamentals that affect every market and if it is speculative, but the interesting thing about the crypto market is the volatility, whoever understands and manages volatility can make a lot of money and apart from that, it is a great plus, because volatility in the crypto market is unique and the main ingredient of this market.

indeed volatility is a strong attraction for this market for some beginners who have the intention to invest. this is an opportunity to make a very attractive profit. Unfortunately, many beginners mistakenly think that they will get rich quickly by investing in crypto without knowing the risks of market volatility itself.
here the lack of understanding of the market and crypto assets becomes the main problem for beginners who just put their money in a hurry.
things that happen a lot for beginners who think investing in cryptocurrencies is an easy way to earn money. of course with knowledge we will get satisfying profits, but to gain experience we have to learn and go through a long process, after that we can understand the direction of fluctuations to place speculations so that they can be turned into profits. therefore don't just look at the results of someone who is successful in the market, but we have to find out how they can be successful, survive in the market
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If the price does not move there is no way people will make money investing or trading a token if the price do not move. Volatility is good if it moves in your direction (long or short). I think the most important thing is to be able to spot the bottom and buy when the price is close to the bottom because the price will always go up from that position, it is easy to stop the bottom than the top this is very important for newbies to learn this will help then in the long term rather than FOMOing into already pumped tokens and they end up being a bagholder


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