Don't claim to be an investor if it's still like this

[milewilda]

The word Sultan used but he might preferred the word rich.

Anyway back to the topic those people who claim to be an investor while following this type of investment then we can be sure that they are not even close to investor they are just trying to be after watched a video on YouTube or something.

Creating wealth will take time, if you're too lucky you can make millions with 10 dollar lottery ticket but it won't happen in everyone's life, whereas the investment mainly depends on how consistent we are and how do we compound the profits made from the previous year because the power of compounding is far beyond than we think.

Basing up with my own understanding then he does particularly mean about becoming rich because if we do make out some research about on what it is

A sultan is a secular ruler, usually in an Islamic country. The name came into use as the nation of Islam far extended its territories and relied on secure governance in far away provinces and countries. The sultan, as ruler, was initially inferior to the ruling caliph, but generally governed with almost absolute authority in a particular area.Source

So i do presume that OP is a muslim and we know that having this high position does simply means that you do really have the power and the money. This is why he do make use of this word on someone
who do really make out some investment and make some huge profits or how many multipliers but same as you said that it wont really be that precise if you do make use of such word but
you do only invest a small amount. Of course you would really be able to hit up big if you do put up big specially on bitcoin but we know that not all would really be having the capacity on doing
so. This is why some people do really take out some option on putting money on meme coins or degens which they do hope that they would really be able to hit up the right spot
and multiply their investment on how many folds.

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[Aikidoka]

Losses are a natural part of trading and anyone in this field is bound to experience them sooner or later. No one is perfect and trading is a difficult field that requires wise decisions, timing, and especially patience. Without these things, you are more likely to suffer significant losses and could affect you morally and financially, so it's better to learn from them in an easy way rather than the hard way.

I agree with the OP that losses are a part of investing in Bitcoin and it's important to learn from them by asking yourself what went wrong? and devising new strategies to prevent similar losses in the future. Remember, it's not the end of the world and with the right approach, you can bounce back from losses!

[Plaguedeath]

Investor is looking for huge return in the future, if someone invest today and hope tomorrow he will earn huge return, he's either a shitcoin trader or gambler. There's a chance shitcoin will make someone rich over night, but there's a chance you will lose all of your money you have invested, same applies with gambling.

But what is the purpose to claim himself as an investor? I don't need any recognition from anyone and better to being silent.

[Natalim]

Investor is looking for huge return in the future, if someone invest today and hope tomorrow he will earn huge return, he's either a shitcoin trader or gambler. There's a chance shitcoin will make someone rich over night, but there's a chance you will lose all of your money you have invested, same applies with gambling.

But what is the purpose to claim himself as an investor? I don't need any recognition from anyone and better to being silent.

He's thinking about the miracle to come, ain't an attitude as an investor.
We don't need to proclaim ourselves as an investor nor tell everyone but at least we did it silently. Investing is not difficult to manage but some people make it hard because they never know what really is all about. Like brainwashing for many promoters and asking people to invest their money into crypto and then make money by tomorrow. In this case, if you are an investor, you can really think about how these people are fooling others.

[jeraldskie11]

If we have lost, we have to pivot, analyze again, find out why, where did it go wrong, what is the future.  Not if the loss is already screaming scam, blaming people who give "advice", following influence etc.

That's what happened when we went back to 2021. Crypto people are very enthusiastic, and many individuals invest in crypto even if they have no experience in order to get rich like others who have become billionaires as a result of this. But the contrary of what they predicted happened: they lost their invested money, while others lost more than half of their investment. So that's what happened to our crypto; there are so many people on social media who believe crypto and Bitcoin are scams. But they made a big mistake: they didn't conduct any research and invested in cryptocurrency without knowing it was a hoax.

My only piece of advice is to stop blaming crypto for your decisions and instead learn to recognize that it is your fault. True, there are fraudulent coins or tokens, but there are also legitimate ones, so do a research before buying.

[wxa7115]

If we have lost, we have to pivot, analyze again, find out why, where did it go wrong, what is the future.  Not if the loss is already screaming scam, blaming people who give "advice", following influence etc.

That's what happened when we went back to 2021. Crypto people are very enthusiastic, and many individuals invest in crypto even if they have no experience in order to get rich like others who have become billionaires as a result of this. But the contrary of what they predicted happened: they lost their invested money, while others lost more than half of their investment. So that's what happened to our crypto; there are so many people on social media who believe crypto and Bitcoin are scams. But they made a big mistake: they didn't conduct any research and invested in cryptocurrency without knowing it was a hoax.

My only piece of advice is to stop blaming crypto for your decisions and instead learn to recognize that it is your fault. True, there are fraudulent coins or tokens, but there are also legitimate ones, so do a research before buying.

Very few are able to be that honest with themselves, most of the time the most common reaction is to try to blame someone else for the losses they have suffered, and while sometimes those people do indeed hold some responsibility, at the end of the day they cannot be blamed about all the mistakes those newbies made.

However that attitude not only prevents them from acknowledging the truth, it also stops them from improving, because if they try to trade the markets again then it is likely they will still obtain the same disappointing results once again.

[Bitcoin_people]

Most investors expect them to succeed. Invest today and expect huge profits from that investment in the future and thus become rich overnight. But they will never get it after investing and if the market condition goes bad then there will be huge loss. So I think those who invest should analyze the investment well and have an idea about crypto and hope to gain later. There are many people who invest in altcoins because they think that investing in altcins will give them good profits in the future. But they never think that most of the altcoins are scams due to which people's demand for investment decreases due to loss. So it is wise to invest in Bitcoin if you are investing for the long term you must invest in Bitcoin. Analyzing the market, it is best to invest and hold for a long time when the price of Bitcoin is down.

[puloweh555]

In conclusion, it is very important to remember that losses are part of investing in bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and as investors, we must be prepared for them.  Don't get caught up in negative emotions such as anger or disappointment when you experience a loss, but use it as a lesson to improve our investment strategy going forward.

I also want to add, like you said, don't claim to be an investor if we can't understand that investing is part of the risk, so whatever we have to accept the risk. Apart from what you mentioned, I think we also have to be able to distinguish between investors, traders, speculators and gamblers because these four things are very different. Each of these activities has a different analysis and of course the action is also different.

An investor aims to generate long-term profits by purchasing assets that have increased in value over time. Investors usually have strong fundamental analysis and consider economic, financial, and industry factors before making investment decisions. Investors usually invest for a longer period of time and are willing to take on greater risks for greater returns.

A trader, on the other hand, tries to take advantage of market fluctuations in the short term by buying and selling assets in a relatively short period of time. Traders usually focus more on technical analysis and make decisions based on price movements and market trends. Traders usually seek to make profits in the short term and are willing to assume higher risks to achieve this goal.

Speculators are, by nature, more aggressive traders and tend to take bigger risks. Speculators usually look for opportunities to make big profits in a very short time and pay little attention to the fundamental or technical factors that support their trading decisions. Speculators tend to have a very high risk tolerance and are willing to accept big losses if they are unlucky.

Gamblers, on the other hand, tend to take risks without doing adequate analysis and only hope to win a fortune. Gamblers do not have a clear investment or trading strategy and often make impulsive decisions. Gamblers usually do not consider fundamental or technical factors and only rely on luck to make profits.

Therefore, it is also important that we don't pretend to be investors if we can't distinguish between investors, traders, speculators and gamblers. Because each of these activities has different risks and potential benefits, it is important to consider these factors before making our investment decisions.

[ningrum]

Investor is looking for huge return in the future, if someone invest today and hope tomorrow he will earn huge return, he's either a shitcoin trader or gambler. There's a chance shitcoin will make someone rich over night, but there's a chance you will lose all of your money you have invested, same applies with gambling.

But what is the purpose to claim himself as an investor? I don't need any recognition from anyone and better to being silent.

True and gambling like that I think is a bad choice considering there are other options that are much safer,
losing money in an instant of course it's a blow and it's not easy to accept it for sure,
acknowledgment doesn't make better so better focus on yourself.

[michellee]

Investor is looking for huge return in the future, if someone invest today and hope tomorrow he will earn huge return, he's either a shitcoin trader or gambler. There's a chance shitcoin will make someone rich over night, but there's a chance you will lose all of your money you have invested, same applies with gambling.

But what is the purpose to claim himself as an investor? I don't need any recognition from anyone and better to being silent.

Without doing the research before investing, he will not profit unless the investment project suddenly gets a very high pump and he manages to sell his tokens at the highest price. But that rarely happens because of the many new projects, it difficult to know which token will increase.

As investors, we must know how to choose the right project from our research so that we will not be mistaken in choosing the project. Most people who invest in crypto just follow what's trending or based on advice from others so they will just buy it and hold it.

If they don't want to lose money investing in crypto, they can invest their money into bitcoins and leave behind projects that are hard to predict which ones will improve. It would be better for them than looking for coins from the many existing coins.

[Stable090]

Almost 99% of investors want to deposit today, tomorrow they will become sultans.  Actually it can't be like that.  It could be possible that tomorrow it will be a loss and the next day it may still be a loss.

We all know every investment is risky so you shouldn’t be expecting profit immediately you make investment, you have to equal your mind, you might endup winning and also you might endup losing, so as a good investor, your target shouldn’t be about profit always, you should think about lose also sometimes, because anything can happen, no investment is certain.

Whenever you win as a investor, then go back to your journal to check why you win in the investment, and incase if their is lose in your investment, then go back to your journal to check why you lose and you have to find solution to your mistake. You can’t be an investor and you won’t lose money.

[2double0]

My first and foremost question to OP:
Who TF is Sultan? And why would anyone want to become a Sultan when they have their own identity, their own recognition in the world?
Next, no investor is perfect or can be perfect ever.
I saw a trader performing well on bybit for almost a year, other traders who were copying his trades were so confident (one of them was my friend and he said that this trader is like Illuminati, he knows every move of the market), they went all in on him with one trader putting over $100k on his trades and copying. That month, he did worst trades and this trader lost his $100k because of unlimited number of trades that the trader opened just to save his capital from being lost in futures, but he couldn't. All he lost was $250 only but that trader lost $100k, so this trader didn't lose money but faith that other traders had on him, the belief in him got ruined after he traded overconfidently. So there is no point in giving any tips to anyone, just stick to your strategy and it will work.

[benalexis12]

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In short there is no getting rich quick here in the cryptocurrency business. This is what you want to convey in your post. If there are people who think that it is quick to get rich in cryptocurrency, it is probably the majority of newbies who think that it is easy to make money here, which is not really true.
This is what most people entering the crypto space should also know that they need to study first and also do research before jumping in and entering this industry.

[Cling18]

Some investors usually disregard the risk of crypto investment and only see it as a shortcut to getting rich which is obviously a wrong mindset. They tend to lose patience when they see the shaky condition of the market. However, most of us still learn from that mistake. There were opportunities of making huge profits that we might miss if won't have patience. Considering and dealing with the risks is too important if we want to make a good profit in the future. That will be possible if we already know how the crypto market works.

[bbigtart]

Who TF is Sultan? And why would anyone want to become a Sultan when they have their own identity, their own recognition in the world?

Sorry, I chose the wrong word. I mean, in my area rich people are often called "Sultan". the word "sultan" is often used informally as a synonym for a rich or upper class person in my area.

So there is no point in giving any tips to anyone, just stick to your strategy and it will work.

Yes, I know, there's really no point in giving trader tips to anyone. But I think there is no problem at all, if we share experiences and remind each other of the good things in the trading community. As a trader, while it is very important to maintain self-confidence in self-researched trading strategies and methods, it is also important to be open to new ideas and learn from the experiences of others. Whatever it is, I'm sorry, I don't mean to patronize the seniors here.

[mindrust]

Almost 99% of investors want to deposit today, tomorrow they will become sultans.  Actually it can't be like that.  It could be possible that tomorrow it will be a loss and the next day it may still be a loss.

They are not investors. They are gamblers. Investing takes time. It takes multiple years, sometimes decades. Ask Buffett about it. He would say "Our favorite holding period is forever." That means a lot if you are capable of understanding it. It means if you know the asset that you are buying well, why worry about its current price? In the long term, it is guaranteed that it will be more expensive than today. In the short term, who cares? Prices can get manipulated in the short term but you can't fool anybody as the time passes.

[Ultegra134]

Almost 99% of investors want to deposit today, tomorrow they will become sultans.  Actually it can't be like that.  It could be possible that tomorrow it will be a loss and the next day it may still be a loss.

If we have lost, we have to pivot, analyze again, find out why, where did it go wrong, what is the future.  Not if the loss is already screaming scam, blaming people who give "advice", following influence etc.

What we have to understand first is that there is no investment today, tomorrow you will become a sultan. Even next year or in 10 years, you will not necessarily become a sultan.  Warren Buffet alone only returns 29% per year.  And that means if we invest $10k, it will only be $12.9k next year, not immediately becoming sultan.  Warren Buffet became a sultan because of consistent profits for decades. The key is patience, discipline and consistency in making investment decisions.  Warren Buffet never loses?  Of course, in 2015 Warren Buffet lost $444 million in Tesco shares.

In conclusion, it is very important to remember that losses are part of investing in bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and as investors, we must be prepared for them.  Don't get caught up in negative emotions such as anger or disappointment when you experience a loss, but use it as a lesson to improve our investment strategy going forward.

I'm sorry, do you actually believe that 29% APY is low? A few stablecoin contracts offered as much as 20%, and they were great deals, let alone almost 30%. I wish had an investment that could achieve such a high APY.

Moreover, I don't believe that the majority of users here expect to make money seemingly overnight; that's a common misconception a few newbies have when signing up. It's all part of the game. I've also lost money when investing, whether that was staking or trading, but I've also gained a lot more to cover such losses. It's inevitable; you need to accept it and move on.

[Kgdktac]

You are Correct!!

You have to have a realistic view of investing and not expect overnight riches. Investing always involves risks and it is important to be prepared for both losses as well as gains. It is also important to not get too caught up in emotions

and instead to analyze and learn from our mistakes in order to improve our investment strategy going forward.

Being patient, disciplined, and consistent are important traits for successful investing in any asset, including Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.

[lionheart78]

In conclusion, it is very important to remember that losses are part of investing in bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and as investors, we must be prepared for them.  Don't get caught up in negative emotions such as anger or disappointment when you experience a loss, but use it as a lesson to improve our investment strategy going forward.

In Bitcoin, you won't lose anything unless you sell and the same thing to attain profit you also need to sell.  That is a proven fact.  Bitcoin losses can be avoided by holding and waiting for the price to recover and selling at a profit. 

The bitcoin market is proven to be cyclical, it means it goes up and down until it records another all-time high.  Although I agree that losing is part of the investment (not only Bitcoin and cryptocurrency) but there are methods that we can use in order to minimize or avoid losses, especially in Bitcoin investment.  One of which is analyzing the market and knowing the right time to enter.  We can either use fundamental analysis or technical analysis or both in order to gain an advantage when entering the Bitcoin market.  The same goes when we wanted to sell at a profit.

In short when it comes to Bitcoin investment, if we wanted to avoid losses, we need knowledge about the history of Bitcoin, the trend of Bitcoin, and the patience to wait for the right time to get profit in our Bitcoin investment. 

[Bushdark]

We are in a generation where we have so many advisers and writers available I'm this forum to tutor us how to trade the market and make proper investment when it is obvious that they can even analyze a single chart. Everyone is gradually becoming a pro trader, ready to help us that had been in the market for so long.

 I am not biased with the frequent writeup from people who choose to have become a good trader and always eagered to teach us something to have as a breakfast.

 Op has point a very important facts we need to put into consideration or else we might to enjoy the act of being a trader.
We need to understand that words are easier said than done. Noted