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Question: Who do you think will win?
Jason Moloney - 2 (12.5%)
Vincent Astrolabio - 14 (87.5%)
Draw - 0 (0%)
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May 13, 2023, 07:08:34 AM
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Back to the Astrolabio vs Moloney, I did not really expect this match to happen. Bob Arum perfectly made the right move canceling the previous Donaire fight since the guy is being handled by a promoter with issues from US authorities. We don't even know when old Donaire is fighting. But earlier, Astrolabio was thought to face another PBC fighter, ex-champ Emmanuel Rodriguez for the vacant IBF. It's surprising that he is now facing a Top Rank fighter, it would've been Raymart Gaballo facing Moloney tomorrow.

Perhaps it's a blessing in disguise for Vincent, but in any case, another Filipino that Moloney will have to win and get over to be able to claim that vacant belt so not going to be easy.

Anyways, I hope Astrolabio can pull a big win. This is not an easy fight but he needs to win rounds convincingly as he is fighting against the event promoter's fighter. I think it was unnecessary to bring a kangaroo stuff toy and trash-talk Moloney because the Aussie is not intimidated and is unaffected. But it showed Astrolabio's confidence in this fight. But he should stay focused and stay away from unnecessary stunts once inside the ring because Moloney is not old Rigo and he carries a KO punch in both hands.

He is not a huge underdog base on the odds, so chances are high for him to pull a big win and upset Moloney and see another Filipino belt holder. But it won't be easy as Moloney has also set his eyes for the belt ever since Inoue move up. One thing can can be positive is that Astrolabio is not afraid to go toe to toe and if Moloney fight that way, then he will be chin tested by Vincent and who knows, maybe he can go down here.

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May 14, 2023, 03:19:30 AM
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I was not able to watch the fight but we have a winner.



source : https://www.facebook.com/ESPNKnockOut/

I need to watch the replay to see how Moloney won this fight. I believe he had a good chance of winning since he was the slight favorite, and it seems like he made the right decision by avoiding Donaire. I'm curious to see how he managed to secure the victory.

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May 14, 2023, 03:52:11 AM
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I was not able to watch the fight but we have a winner.

source : https://www.facebook.com/ESPNKnockOut/

I need to watch the replay to see how Moloney won this fight. I believe he had a good chance of winning since he was the slight favorite, and it seems like he made the right decision by avoiding Donaire. I'm curious to see how he managed to secure the victory.

I also wasn't able to watch the fight, but I bet on Vincent Astrolabio to win by ML.

So perhaps if Vincent should have done more in the second half of the fight, he could have won here. But we can't do anything about it now, just another lessons for him and maybe he will get another chance in the future to crack for the belt again.

From what I read Astrolabio started very slow and allowing Moloney to dictate the game and it was like at the start of round 7 that he started to very aggressive but it was late as Moloney has piled points already from the judges scorecard.

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May 14, 2023, 04:22:33 AM
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I was not able to watch the fight but we have a winner.

source : https://www.facebook.com/ESPNKnockOut/

I need to watch the replay to see how Moloney won this fight. I believe he had a good chance of winning since he was the slight favorite, and it seems like he made the right decision by avoiding Donaire. I'm curious to see how he managed to secure the victory.

I also wasn't able to watch the fight, but I bet on Vincent Astrolabio to win by ML.

So perhaps if Vincent should have done more in the second half of the fight, he could have won here. But we can't do anything about it now, just another lessons for him and maybe he will get another chance in the future to crack for the belt again.

From what I read Astrolabio started very slow and allowing Moloney to dictate the game and it was like at the start of round 7 that he started to very aggressive but it was late as Moloney has piled points already from the judges scorecard.

That's an opportunity he wasted; he could have been the champion by now. Well, as of this moment, Moloney has already become a champion, while Donaire is still waiting for his fight to be scheduled. If Donaire wins, is there any possibility that Moloney and Donaire will have an immediate unification fight?

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May 14, 2023, 04:23:27 AM
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From what I read Astrolabio started very slow and allowing Moloney to dictate the game and it was like at the start of round 7 that he started to very aggressive but it was late as Moloney has piled points already from the judges scorecard.

That's what exactly happens, Astrolabio try to rally in the later rounds and actually went for a knockout in the last two rounds but Moloney's defense won't let him, it's a majority decision win for Moloney, so we have a new champion in the WBO version hopefully Donaire will have a fight for the other versions because he can possibly beat all the top boxers in the 118 lbs.
I still believe that Astrolabio will have a chance to win a title in the future this is a learning experience for him.

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May 14, 2023, 05:23:57 AM
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I was not able to watch the fight but we have a winner.



source : https://www.facebook.com/ESPNKnockOut/

I need to watch the replay to see how Moloney won this fight. I believe he had a good chance of winning since he was the slight favorite, and it seems like he made the right decision by avoiding Donaire. I'm curious to see how he managed to secure the victory.

Just to help you, here's the fight highlights of Moloney vs Astrolabio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX2PWMTX4d4

Seeing the replay did not really convinced me that Moloney won that fight, I know that I'm leaning towards the Filipino boxer but I'm not that biased, it's just that the scoring wasn't that on-point. Majority Decision was correct but the winner is not, and you can see why people who watched the fight live are not satisfied by the result as they boo-ed Moloney and the judges after the winner was announced.

I also looked on the comments below and I'm not that surprised to see that many fans are not that swayed by the result either. There was no significant performance made by Moloney and he was just practically cycling around the ring when he tasted Astrolabio's punch.

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May 14, 2023, 05:27:40 AM
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From what I read Astrolabio started very slow and allowing Moloney to dictate the game and it was like at the start of round 7 that he started to very aggressive but it was late as Moloney has piled points already from the judges scorecard.

That's what exactly happens, Astrolabio try to rally in the later rounds and actually went for a knockout in the last two rounds but Moloney's defense won't let him, it's a majority decision win for Moloney, so we have a new champion in the WBO version hopefully Donaire will have a fight for the other versions because he can possibly beat all the top boxers in the 118 lbs.
I still believe that Astrolabio will have a chance to win a title in the future this is a learning experience for him.

But I'm not convinced by the performance of Moloney though, and for sure some of us here might agree with me.

And I'm not surprised at all why at any cost Moloney wanted no part of Donaire even they said that Nonito is old already. From this fight, Moloney is not impressive and it Astrolabio has just the final kick in this fight he could have won by a knockout.

But I guess Moloney is satisfied circling around and trying to avoid the power of Vincent and score a victory but very close in the judges card.
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May 14, 2023, 05:55:44 AM
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But I guess Moloney is satisfied circling around and trying to avoid the power of Vincent and score a victory but very close in the judges card.

Moloney won't be able to do that against Donaire because Donaire has the reach advantage. He will be the aggressor once he faces Donaire, and based on his performance in this fight, I wouldn't be surprised if Donaire scores a knockdown or even a knockout. It was a great fight for Astrolabio; I thought he would win, but since Moloney is the more popular name, the outcome of the fight was already expected.

Let's follow Moloney's journey. It would be nice if he shows bravery and gives Donaire a chance to fight him, in case Donaire's fight with Santiago doesn't push through.

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May 14, 2023, 06:22:55 AM
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But I guess Moloney is satisfied circling around and trying to avoid the power of Vincent and score a victory but very close in the judges card.

Moloney won't be able to do that against Donaire because Donaire has the reach advantage. He will be the aggressor once he faces Donaire, and based on his performance in this fight, I wouldn't be surprised if Donaire scores a knockdown or even a knockout. It was a great fight for Astrolabio; I thought he would win, but since Moloney is the more popular name, the outcome of the fight was already expected.

Let's follow Moloney's journey. It would be nice if he shows bravery and gives Donaire a chance to fight him, in case Donaire's fight with Santiago doesn't push through.

But the thing is that Moloney has been drop by the WBC in their rankings. So not sure even if Moloney is the champion now, that they will allow their rank boxers to cross over the WBO and fight Moloney. You know, boxing politics, but I guess when their is money for both WBO and WBC they might have to sit down and settle and allow it to happen.

We shall wait first for the Donaire vs Santiago, at least we have filled one of the belts that Inoue has left. So it's time for other governing body to step up and also put a champion in their organization.
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May 14, 2023, 08:35:22 AM
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Moloney won't be able to do that against Donaire because Donaire has the reach advantage. He will be the aggressor once he faces Donaire, and based on his performance in this fight, I wouldn't be surprised if Donaire scores a knockdown or even a knockout. It was a great fight for Astrolabio; I thought he would win, but since Moloney is the more popular name, the outcome of the fight was already expected.

In this game of boxing, Astrolabio should be the one who needs to be more aggressive and preferably score a knockdown at least 2 in that fight for him to clearly win it but he seems to have a hard time finding his rhythm and scoring a power punch that is enough to knock down Moloney. If this was Donaire, I think he could easily beat Moloney against that performance because of Donaire's speed and power, he could quickly catch him and throw a lethal powerful punch that will gonna seriously hurt him.

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May 14, 2023, 08:36:19 AM
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From what I read Astrolabio started very slow and allowing Moloney to dictate the game and it was like at the start of round 7 that he started to very aggressive but it was late as Moloney has piled points already from the judges scorecard.
I watch the replay and I think Astrolabio wasn't starting slow, actually he was aggressive and always catch Moloney. Moloney is a counter puncher here and he punch less than Astrolabio. Although Moloney's punch is more accurate, but he only punch Astrolabio few times, not really deserved he's become a winner.

At least it should be a draw, or Astrolabio win with a close scorecard 115-113.

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May 14, 2023, 01:08:47 PM
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From what I read Astrolabio started very slow and allowing Moloney to dictate the game and it was like at the start of round 7 that he started to very aggressive but it was late as Moloney has piled points already from the judges scorecard.
I watch the replay and I think Astrolabio wasn't starting slow, actually he was aggressive and always catch Moloney. Moloney is a counter puncher here and he punch less than Astrolabio. Although Moloney's punch is more accurate, but he only punch Astrolabio few times, not really deserved he's become a winner.

At least it should be a draw, or Astrolabio win with a close scorecard 115-113.

I did not get a chance to watch the match because I'm on the road and my phone was off, I only get to watch the highlight I agree it should be a draw but this is a championship fight there should be a winner, Astrolabio chance is a knock out since this is in a foreign soil so the title goes to Moloney.
Moloney is not a tough champion he can be beaten by Donaire if ever they meet in the ring he is beatable and there are a lot of flaws to his style, he is not even a hard puncher.

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I was not able to watch the fight but we have a winner.



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I need to watch the replay to see how Moloney won this fight. I believe he had a good chance of winning since he was the slight favorite, and it seems like he made the right decision by avoiding Donaire. I'm curious to see how he managed to secure the victory.

I didn't watch the fight live, but I was able to watch a replay of the fight, in the first round it looked like Moloney was at a slight disadvantage, Astrolabio remained in the center to corner Moloney, but then Astrolabio started to gain ground and also remained in the center and managed to land a few punches on Astrolabio's face, with Moloney remaining in the center Astrolabio was forced to retreat further, but then Astrolabio started his much more aggressive counterattack and landed some punches on his opponent, but strangely that I saw the Astrolabe being better than Moloney

Astrolabio seemed to put more pressure on his opponent who I honestly don't understand why he lost, at least in the replay video I watched it seemed to me that Astrolabio deserved to come out of this fight with a victory, even in the many comments I read nobody agreed with the victory of Moloney, it's a very strange decision by the judges, in my opinion the judges should have declared Astrolabio the winner, but in the end their decision is final and only they know what led them to decide in favor of Moloney, the fact is that this decision by the judges generated negative comments, most of the comments I read do not agree with this decision

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Definitely. It doesn't look like Maloney is a winner inside the ring. He just keeps ducking and throwing fewer punches. While Astro keeps the center and pushes Maloney to the corner every time. Yet the majority decided he is the winner. Heck is wrong with these judges.

I didn't bet nor watch it live. Though this is a belt fight, Astro is not a popular fighter, which I guess only a few may have bet.  I watched it on youtube though. Seem a boring fight but sure to me Astro is the winner.


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Definitely. It doesn't look like Maloney is a winner inside the ring. He just keeps ducking and throwing fewer punches. While Astro keeps the center and pushes Maloney to the corner every time. Yet the majority decided he is the winner. Heck is wrong with these judges.

I didn't bet nor watch it live. Though this is a belt fight, Astro is not a popular fighter, which I guess only a few may have bet.  I watched it on youtube though. Seem a boring fight but sure to me Astro is the winner.

Right? Even the people who watched the fight live didn't buy the judge's decision to make it in-favor to Moloney. Another cooking show happened in broad daylight!

At least boxing commission should take a look on this or at least the Filipino boxer deserves to have a rematch but unfortunately, I will not be surprised if Moloney will not give it a chance because he knows himself that he just got lucky because he was being favored but there will be no next time if he chooses to push his luck for a rematch.

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I was late to watch this fight. I tuned in just in time before the ring walk of the main event. Janibek is really a force to be reckoned with. Probably the next Kazakh star but more technical than GGG. Hoping to see him unify against the other belt holders soon.

About this fight, I watched the highlights of Top Rank and I thought Astrolabio was winning or maybe it was a close fight. That made me curious so I started asking my friends. Someone explained to me that Astrolabio was clearly losing this one as Moloney was using his skills rather than trading heavy blows. So that was it. Better luck next time. Highlights are not enough to determine fights anyways.

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I truly support Vincent Astrolabio in this fight but sorry to say that Jason Moloney wins the fight based on my own view. Maybe what others are trying to call out is, should not be a majority decision win for Moloney but somehow Astrolabio won even 1 of the judges. But for me, it's really clear that Moloney deserves the win. I doubt a rematch should be followed up. Just move on, and try to settle a deal again for the title match.

Now that there's another Bantamweight Champion, there are now 2 current champions in the Bantamweight Division:

Takuma Inoue - WBA
Jason Moloney - WBO

On the other hand, Nonito Donaire Jr. and Alejandro Santiago's WBC Bantamweight Title match is still hanging in the air with no updates.
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From what I read Astrolabio started very slow and allowing Moloney to dictate the game and it was like at the start of round 7 that he started to very aggressive but it was late as Moloney has piled points already from the judges scorecard.
I watch the replay and I think Astrolabio wasn't starting slow, actually he was aggressive and always catch Moloney. Moloney is a counter puncher here and he punch less than Astrolabio. Although Moloney's punch is more accurate, but he only punch Astrolabio few times, not really deserved he's become a winner.

At least it should be a draw, or Astrolabio win with a close scorecard 115-113.
I’m expecting Maloney to win though upon watching the Match, I thought he’s gonna lose on this one but it turns out positive to him. Astrolabio did a great job as well throwing more punches but most of them are not that good, I think Maloney strategy works to stay away and do a counter punch, he got a win and this is a closest fight for Maloney.

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Definitely. It doesn't look like Maloney is a winner inside the ring. He just keeps ducking and throwing fewer punches. While Astro keeps the center and pushes Maloney to the corner every time. Yet the majority decided he is the winner. Heck is wrong with these judges.

I didn't bet nor watch it live. Though this is a belt fight, Astro is not a popular fighter, which I guess only a few may have bet.  I watched it on youtube though. Seem a boring fight but sure to me Astro is the winner.

Every judge has their preference which often times conflict with the audience.  The highlights shared on the earlier reply is somehow biased because it only highlighted the part where Astrolabio is performing good and see how it jumps rounds.  The missed round is probably where Moloney is performing better.

I believe Astrolabio is waiting to counter for the big shot reason why on the earlier round he isn't as agrressive as when it was on the late round.  And that is Astrolabio's short coming because the chance to have that opportunity never came.  Aside from that, Astrolabio's camp is boasting about Moloney is uncapable of a knock out but boxing isn't won by knocking out the opponent only.  It is obvious that Moloney outsmarted Astrolabio in this fight.
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Now that there's another Bantamweight Champion, there are now 2 current champions in the Bantamweight Division:

Takuma Inoue - WBA
Jason Moloney - WBO

On the other hand, Nonito Donaire Jr. and Alejandro Santiago's WBC Bantamweight Title match is still hanging in the air with no updates.

I expect Donaire to win one of the remaining titles because of all the boxers here in this division after Inoue left Donaire is a serious contender to be a champion, this is Donaire's last hurrah or hope to become a champion and possibly retire, all boxers want a good exit they don't want a big loss when they are going out of the boxing world and with old age approaching fast, Donaire need one good fight and it should be a title fight.
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