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May 29, 2023, 09:04:50 AM
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Thankfully, I know how to trade and invest, so it has always been the two approaches instead of thinking that a less risky investment. Even holding my Bitcoin when it rises and sending it to my USD account when it falls and repeating the processes again gives me more return yearly than staking.

Not sure what you mean by sending it to your USD account, care to share your precise USD platform and wallet? Cause that sounds like a really long and complicated process, losing a lot of fees.
I will add USDT to my former post, as I guess I was the one who didn't elaborate on it or added USDT to make it clear some misunderstanding. The thing is that in my Bitcoin investments, I use FX broker (there is one I use that has a BTC wallet within the member area and already has 13 years of service), Skrill (it has Bitcoin wallets too and has lasted over 2 decades) and Exchanges, in which I use USDT.

My former post might be confusing to you because the first two use USD accounts, so I easily move my Bitcoin from the account to their internal Bitcoin wallet for investment during a bullish trend and move it back to the USD account during the bearish season of the coin. This is the same thing I do with the exchanges I use too, only that theirs is in USDT.

Ah I see, so you actually do mean that you trade, but you claim to earn more yearly income than staking. Currently BTC staking I see at centralized exchanges are around 5%. You actually make more than 5% just by trading? Considering min 1% exchange fee and I think it is more especially broker rates are not the same, you have to make more than 7% a year trading.

7% a year means around 40% after compounding for 5 years.

You must be a really really good trader Smiley

Good luck keeping your Bitcoin on brokers and exchanges... you probably know that's the worst thing you can ever do.
First, it almost shocked me when I read your post, but on second thought, I wasn't anymore since there will always be some people like you that doubt so much. It's not because that thing is not real or impossible but simply because it's impossible to/for you. Mind you, because something is impossible for you doesn't mean it's actually IMPOSSIBLE, that might only be your own limit, so don't judge or conclude for others in that regard, this is what I do.

You even baffled me more with your analogy of finding reasons to stake, perhaps you are new to the investment world, I am not, I live there. I can only trade and hold Bitcoin, I can't stake it. How would I do that when banks and some companies are still offering me between 9-12% annually? Common!!! Think before you correct someone, better still, you just avoid correcting if you don't have important things to contribute. No one doesn't like money or goes for the best offers. What you even replied to are my conclusions about Bitcoin-related investments, I possibly don't know why you criticise them when you can just say yours.

Conclusively, there have been investment opportunities around the centralised system before Bitcoin, they will not disappear of a sudden because of Bitcoin, so don't let us loud this as if it's only the crypto-related ideology of self-custody is the only way out for investors. Maybe you tell the Movers and Shakers of the financial world not to do dealing with any centralised system anymore but only self-custody crypto and see how their portfolio ironically grows. I trade and invest before crypto existence, and those companies I mentioned are well-regulated and insured and have spent over a decade with them without swindling me of my money. I also diversify in 5 of their kind in case of issues, that's wisdom.

You can't compare me with you because it's obvious that it's only crypto you know, but I deal with Bitcoin and other investments.

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May 29, 2023, 10:40:59 AM
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The only reason that many crypto investors prefer to use these applications is because of the high profit that no bank can offer. But if the percentage is higher, then the risks of losing your money increase many times. But nevertheless, this does not stop those who want to get a big profit.

Is it really higher than the bank? I've never staked, I don't know the exact profit, but as far as I know, for example, when we bet in USDT, the APY is only 9% per annum which is not much higher than the bank rate. ..

No bank in the world can offer such a high API, provided that there is no hyperinflation in the country. The usual interest rate on banks is 1-2% per annum, which is much lower than what you get in staking. As for American banks, Citi Bank offers 0.9%, and Goldman Sachs offers 0.8%.


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May 30, 2023, 08:32:34 AM
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7% a year means around 40% after compounding for 5 years.

You must be a really really good trader Smiley

Good luck keeping your Bitcoin on brokers and exchanges... you probably know that's the worst thing you can ever do.
First, it almost shocked me when I read your post, but on second thought, I wasn't anymore since there will always be some people like you that doubt so much. It's not because that thing is not real or impossible but simply because it's impossible to/for you. Mind you, because something is impossible for you doesn't mean it's actually IMPOSSIBLE, that might only be your own limit, so don't judge or conclude for others in that regard, this is what I do.

You even baffled me more with your analogy of finding reasons to stake, perhaps you are new to the investment world, I am not, I live there. I can only trade and hold Bitcoin, I can't stake it. How would I do that when banks and some companies are still offering me between 9-12% annually? Common!!! Think before you correct someone, better still, you just avoid correcting if you don't have important things to contribute. No one doesn't like money or goes for the best offers. What you even replied to are my conclusions about Bitcoin-related investments, I possibly don't know why you criticise them when you can just say yours.

Conclusively, there have been investment opportunities around the centralised system before Bitcoin, they will not disappear of a sudden because of Bitcoin, so don't let us loud this as if it's only the crypto-related ideology of self-custody is the only way out for investors. Maybe you tell the Movers and Shakers of the financial world not to do dealing with any centralised system anymore but only self-custody crypto and see how their portfolio ironically grows. I trade and invest before crypto existence, and those companies I mentioned are well-regulated and insured and have spent over a decade with them without swindling me of my money. I also diversify in 5 of their kind in case of issues, that's wisdom.

You can't compare me with you because it's obvious that it's only crypto you know, but I deal with Bitcoin and other investments.

You're shocked to read things on this forum? I should be the one shocked by your claims but I'm not. I've seen too much things been claimed here on this forum to be shocked anymore Wink

Man if I believe in everything people say without evidence, I would believe the earth is flat, and that people make money trading crypto all the time cause they so smart.

Also I guess you didn't really read what I'm talking about. I was talking about staking Bitcoin (duh, this is the whole topic of the conversation, if you forgot), not banks and companies offering fiat interest (20% is possible like that too).

All I'm saying in summary is you're talking bullshit and misleading people. If you really hold and trade Bitcoin and make as much as you claim, then you have proof. Nobody stays for years and continuously makes money trading Bitcoin. I criticize because people like you mislead others, thinking they can do the same.

Also misleading others into thinking they're safe keeping their funds in centralized companies. Well regulated, insured, yeah, name those companies. And show us proof of your claims.

But you can't and you don't. Don't bother replying unless it comes with names and proof Smiley Or what's the point of "contributing"?

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May 30, 2023, 08:54:20 PM
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If it's not a locked staking, then I am down for it. But when it comes to locked staking, I have a terrible experience with that. I saw my token's value decreasing and increasing time to time, and I knew that I could have made a good profit if I had been trading instead of staking. And the profit you get from staking is very low. And based on your chosen token, you could also make loses as I did. The price of that token is still less than -75% now. And even the bull run won't help it to grow again. It's done.
So I guess it is better to put your money in the bank and take interest instead of choosing volatile crypto market. But the best option will be trading in my opinion if you are looking for a good profits in return. But it's risky, so do it at your own risk. Or just do staking, if you like it that much. It's your assets and your choice.
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May 30, 2023, 09:56:26 PM
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If it's not a locked staking, then I am down for it. But when it comes to locked staking, I have a terrible experience with that. I saw my token's value decreasing and increasing time to time, and I knew that I could have made a good profit if I had been trading instead of staking. And the profit you get from staking is very low. And based on your chosen token, you could also make loses as I did. The price of that token is still less than -75% now. And even the bull run won't help it to grow again. It's done.
So I guess it is better to put your money in the bank and take interest instead of choosing volatile crypto market. But the best option will be trading in my opinion if you are looking for a good profits in return. But it's risky, so do it at your own risk. Or just do staking, if you like it that much. It's your assets and your choice.
When leaving out your coins on any platform and would really be having that staking thing then we are already putting up on such risks considering that it isnt really that been stored in our own personal wallet but into theirs on which i cant really just be that too confident or having those trust on the time you would be transferring your assets. Yes its true that those good APY's is something that could really be the one reason on why you would really be hooked up but if you are that person who are really thinking up sensibly and minding off with the risks then you would definitely be trying out to avoid as much as possible
on doing staking.

It would really be just that fine on the time that you would unstake and pulling out those coins then you could do it everytime but most of them and just like on what others been saying that there's a
an unbonding period on which means that you cant really pull it off completely and would be waiting up for a certain duration.

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May 31, 2023, 07:11:26 AM
Last edit: June 04, 2023, 04:14:32 PM by EarnOnVictor
 #106

7% a year means around 40% after compounding for 5 years.

You must be a really really good trader Smiley

Good luck keeping your Bitcoin on brokers and exchanges... you probably know that's the worst thing you can ever do.
First, it almost shocked me when I read your post, but on second thought, I wasn't anymore since there will always be some people like you that doubt so much. It's not because that thing is not real or impossible but simply because it's impossible to/for you. Mind you, because something is impossible for you doesn't mean it's actually IMPOSSIBLE, that might only be your own limit, so don't judge or conclude for others in that regard, this is what I do.

You even baffled me more with your analogy of finding reasons to stake, perhaps you are new to the investment world, I am not, I live there. I can only trade and hold Bitcoin, I can't stake it. How would I do that when banks and some companies are still offering me between 9-12% annually? Common!!! Think before you correct someone, better still, you just avoid correcting if you don't have important things to contribute. No one doesn't like money or goes for the best offers. What you even replied to are my conclusions about Bitcoin-related investments, I possibly don't know why you criticise them when you can just say yours.

Conclusively, there have been investment opportunities around the centralised system before Bitcoin, they will not disappear of a sudden because of Bitcoin, so don't let us loud this as if it's only the crypto-related ideology of self-custody is the only way out for investors. Maybe you tell the Movers and Shakers of the financial world not to do dealing with any centralised system anymore but only self-custody crypto and see how their portfolio ironically grows. I trade and invest before crypto existence, and those companies I mentioned are well-regulated and insured and have spent over a decade with them without swindling me of my money. I also diversify in 5 of their kind in case of issues, that's wisdom.

You can't compare me with you because it's obvious that it's only crypto you know, but I deal with Bitcoin and other investments.

You're shocked to read things on this forum? I should be the one shocked by your claims but I'm not. I've seen too much things been claimed here on this forum to be shocked anymore Wink

Man if I believe in everything people say without evidence, I would believe the earth is flat, and that people make money trading crypto all the time cause they so smart.

Also I guess you didn't really read what I'm talking about. I was talking about staking Bitcoin (duh, this is the whole topic of the conversation, if you forgot), not banks and companies offering fiat interest (20% is possible like that too).

All I'm saying in summary is you're talking bullshit and misleading people. If you really hold and trade Bitcoin and make as much as you claim, then you have proof. Nobody stays for years and continuously makes money trading Bitcoin. I criticize because people like you mislead others, thinking they can do the same.

Also misleading others into thinking they're safe keeping their funds in centralized companies. Well regulated, insured, yeah, name those companies. And show us proof of your claims.

But you can't and you don't. Don't bother replying unless it comes with names and proof Smiley Or what's the point of "contributing"?
Can you imagine yourself? You still do not have anything reasonable to contribute other than deviating from the subject. If you have, explain why your style is better than mine and stop being idiotic. It's clear that I am dealing with a very low-IQ individual because I don't know what proof a reasonable person needs when I said I can only trade and hold Bitcoin other than staking because they are more productive, while the other additions are secondary, anyone could do things their way, it mustn't be your way, okay? And for the record, this is a discussion, not a piece of investment advice, so wake up and stop disgracing yourself through your nonsense overbearing nature when it's clear you know nothing but just messing around. And by the way, who are you to be commanding me to show you proof? Why not take it under your pilot?

And frankly, why is it that you are the only one complaining even though your complaints are so foolish? You can't even reasonably explain simply why staking is better constructively but just criticising. Investors could do things their way, do it your way, it must not be the same thing, Mr perfect. This is the reason why people like you will never grow, you doubt and will never see beyond what your tiny brain could take you.

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May 31, 2023, 09:20:25 AM
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It would really be just that fine on the time that you would unstake and pulling out those coins then you could do it everytime but most of them and just like on what others been saying that there's a
an unbonding period on which means that you cant really pull it off completely and would be waiting up for a certain duration.
If it's like that, then I don't want to be a part of it. Because with alt coins, you put them on staking hoping to get the APY profits and when it's locked you see your tokens decrease in value. And there's nothing to do except to stand by and watch. If it was with bitcoin, I won't have any problems with that. Because with Bitcoin, we can know that it will grow back after some period of time. With alts? I don't have any faith that it will grow back. So no staking with it. I am better off with trading.
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May 31, 2023, 09:34:56 AM
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The only reason that many crypto investors prefer to use these applications is because of the high profit that no bank can offer. But if the percentage is higher, then the risks of losing your money increase many times. But nevertheless, this does not stop those who want to get a big profit.

Is it really higher than the bank? I've never staked, I don't know the exact profit, but as far as I know, for example, when we bet in USDT, the APY is only 9% per annum which is not much higher than the bank rate. ..

No bank in the world can offer such a high API, provided that there is no hyperinflation in the country. The usual interest rate on banks is 1-2% per annum, which is much lower than what you get in staking. As for American banks, Citi Bank offers 0.9%, and Goldman Sachs offers 0.8%.



If the interest rate, as you say is very low and far behind my country's interest rate. Bank interest rates in my country will be from 8% to 9 %/year, which has been maintained for over 20 years. And it hit a high this year of 13%, but it looks like it is falling as inflation is also slowly cooling down. That's why I say that the APY of the stake is not higher than the bank rate. But according to the interest rate you give, it is true that many people like to plunge into stake is completely reasonable.

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