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April 27, 2023, 11:10:48 AM
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As humans, we are conditioned to look for patterns in life and we gamblers try to make predictions based on what we see, while we are gambling. The reality is that these patterns does not exist, but we like to pretend that they do because it helps us to bring order to the chaos that are gambling.  Roll Eyes

Some people seem to think that your bet size will increase your chances to win, but that is simply a myth. The reality is that it simply means your payouts will be bigger when you do win.

A lot of my friends believe that it is better to spin the Slots manually, because "Auto spin" are rigged by the casinos... but that is also a myth. A lot of things come into play when a bet is made and it has nothing to do with the "auto bet" feature. (Client Seed / Server Seed & RNG and RTP ...)

Have you pressed the "bet" button, before the reels have stopped.. thinking that it will give you a favorable outcome on your bet? Well, I have news for you... the outcome has been decided in milliseconds after you pressed the button for the bet, the GUI interface happens long after that to display the outcome of the bet to you.  Grin (Go into the developer mode of your browser to see this)

What patterns do you see and how much do you believe in it?

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April 27, 2023, 11:38:57 AM
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I only have betting strategies and using martingale strategy at times after I knew it is very risky.

Most of my strategies is about how to risk little and lose little or to gain little, not even martingale that can go wrong at times and lead to big loss.

Betting should be fun, when using just little amount of money, not going beyond the budget set for it and if I noticed that I am winning as I am gambling, not that I am losing all the time which can make me suspect something wrong going on. I do not think there are superstitious ways to win casino games.

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April 27, 2023, 11:41:24 AM
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I don't see a pattern in playing gambling and just press the "bet" or "Spin" button and then submit to the results that will come out.
If I just pay attention or make a pattern, I'm afraid I won't be able to enjoy gambling itself and will only waste my time gambling.
But I guess some gamblers do it because they have their own reasons and we can't blame them because it's their choice.
I also often hit the "Auto 50x, 100x, or other" button and just sit back, enjoy my coffee, and watch the results.
Whether the pattern exists or is just our imagination, our job is only to enjoy gambling as a temporary pleasure and when it's all over, we have to stop.

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April 27, 2023, 12:16:51 PM
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Have you pressed the "bet" button, before the reels have stopped.. thinking that it will give you a favorable outcome on your bet? Well, I have news for you... the outcome has been decided in milliseconds after you pressed the button for the bet, the GUI interface happens long after that to display the outcome of the bet to you.  Grin (Go into the developer mode of your browser to see this)
Yeah, it could be pattern, or what we call superstitious belief. Sometimes I will count the reel, how much spins before I will win and how many spins is my lost. And then the next time,  I will used that pattern to maybe increased my bet the next time so that if the pattern continues then I might win big. However, I found out that it's no pattern after all. It could be just coincidence, or just my luck playing with me and my emotions.

What patterns do you see and how much do you believe in it?
So in my years of playing slots, I will say that there is no patterns, it is just ourselves trying to find and making that excuses that we are going to win big the next spin because we found a pattern.

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April 27, 2023, 12:22:03 PM
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As humans, we are conditioned to look for patterns in life and we gamblers try to make predictions based on what we see, while we are gambling. The reality is that these patterns does not exist, but we like to pretend that they do because it helps us to bring order to the chaos that are gambling.  Roll Eyes

Some people seem to think that your bet size will increase your chances to win, but that is simply a myth. The reality is that it simply means your payouts will be bigger when you do win.

A lot of my friends believe that it is better to spin the Slots manually, because "Auto spin" are rigged by the casinos... but that is also a myth. A lot of things come into play when a bet is made and it has nothing to do with the "auto bet" feature. (Client Seed / Server Seed & RNG and RTP ...)

Have you pressed the "bet" button, before the reels have stopped.. thinking that it will give you a favorable outcome on your bet? Well, I have news for you... the outcome has been decided in milliseconds after you pressed the button for the bet, the GUI interface happens long after that to display the outcome of the bet to you.  Grin (Go into the developer mode of your browser to see this)

What patterns do you see and how much do you believe in it?
I mean, I'm pretty sure deep down that most people believe that the "patterns" they found in gambling are just absolutely random bs that they use to increase their confidence in actually winning. Plus, it also serves as an additional reason to blame when you lose, like oh it's because this tip I got to do x thing while doing y thing was just a fake kind of idea.

But anyway, on the topic of patterns, dumb as it is, it's usually a pattern of win streaks/lose streaks for me. It's like I always have that dumb ass mindset that after some random number of losses (which I get from who knows where at the time really) I'd make a comeback, so I keep playing the same game. This only happens on games I really enjoy though, so it's not that bad.

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April 27, 2023, 01:30:37 PM
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What patterns do you see and how much do you believe in it?
I saw patterns until they showed to be just illusions from my mind. In fact there aren't patterns in gambling. They are personal beliefs from gamblers who think they can defeat the casino, but don't last long, because sooner or later these gamblers hit a long loss streak.

A very common pattern I saw was from a youtuber who played a roulette alike game. He believed he could predict when the white house on the table was going to be hit, so he didn't play on the red and black houses, but only on the single white house for huge multiplier.

For a while his method worked and it really seemed he had discovered a pattern. However, I doubt that was going to work forever, because there aren't such patterns in gambling. I didn't follow him anymore to see the end of the story (he was already playing for months), though.

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April 27, 2023, 01:42:22 PM
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As humans, there are always wishes and desires and when people gamble, they always do so with hopes and believe of making profits and I don't see anything wrong with people having myths because I believe those are hopes that keeps them going and positive..
When I increase my bet, I do so with more hopes of making more profit and getting more in return and I actually don't believe in having any miraculous strategy to comb in profits and this is because I believe in doing the right thing and hoping for a positive result at the end.
In all we do, we should try as much as possible not to gamble with what they can't afford to lose because it always ends with regrets as nothing is gauranteed in the gambling industry.

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April 27, 2023, 01:48:09 PM
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in my case I only place sports bets, I only bet on a game after I have analyzed the two teams, this is strategy, I analyze the two teams that are going to play and when I analyze the game I think as if I were going to a battlefield what would I do to survive on the battlefield. for example there is an arsenal game against city ( game has already ended with an expected victory for city ) so the first thing to analyze is where they are going to play and the results that both teams had when playing at home and away from home in the last 5 games, then analysis and direct confrontation between these two teams, then I start by analyzing the formation of each team and its players individually, then I analyze the number of goals conceded and scored in the last 5 games, then I analyze the importance of the game for both teams

once this part is done, then I move on to the profitable part, I analyze the value of the odd if it will be worth it, in sports betting, making bets with an odd of @ 1.50 is not worth it, this in the long term is a big loss, that's why making a multibet bet it is the only solution to make a long-term profit, but the problem is that this strategy is very risky, it is enough to lose a single game for all bets to be lost, at the end of the day there is no winning strategy in games of chance, there is no lucrative way in gambling, everyone who is a customer loses and the only one who profits is the owner of the casino and his employees

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April 27, 2023, 01:50:22 PM
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As humans, we are conditioned to look for patterns in life and we gamblers try to make predictions based on what we see, while we are gambling. The reality is that these patterns does not exist, but we like to pretend that they do because it helps us to bring order to the chaos that are gambling.  Roll Eyes

Some people seem to think that your bet size will increase your chances to win, but that is simply a myth. The reality is that it simply means your payouts will be bigger when you do win.

A lot of my friends believe that it is better to spin the Slots manually, because "Auto spin" are rigged by the casinos... but that is also a myth. A lot of things come into play when a bet is made and it has nothing to do with the "auto bet" feature. (Client Seed / Server Seed & RNG and RTP ...)

I did that tried to do higher bet sizes and lower bet sizes , this is purely from what I learned from the game I did, in fact have different opportunities when using higher stakes, using higher stakes a total of 50 rounds found the multiplier is high on auto spin and when on the lowest size I struggle to get that even with 100 auto/manual spins.

I think it's not because the casino is rigged or anything in automatic or manual spins, but manual ones are more effective than what I've done to this day, why is it effective? because in my opinion the longer we play, the greater the chance of winning, manual rotation will take quite a long time to make slot rounds and that provides time delay which makes the chances of winning better to get a win.

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What patterns do you see and how much do you believe in it?
If I'm playing a slot in Starlight Princes or Gates of Olympus when I get a big multiplier like x100 - x500 outside of the free spins, that means I have to play another 20+ minutes at different bet sizes every five manual spins, for me doing that effective in 10 times on that pattern I get 7 wins which is not bad even though it's not the maximum win.

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April 27, 2023, 02:11:08 PM
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As humans, we are conditioned to look for patterns in life and we gamblers try to make predictions based on what we see, while we are gambling. The reality is that these patterns does not exist, but we like to pretend that they do because it helps us to bring order to the chaos that are gambling.  Roll Eyes

Some people seem to think that your bet size will increase your chances to win, but that is simply a myth. The reality is that it simply means your payouts will be bigger when you do win.

A lot of my friends believe that it is better to spin the Slots manually, because "Auto spin" are rigged by the casinos... but that is also a myth. A lot of things come into play when a bet is made and it has nothing to do with the "auto bet" feature. (Client Seed / Server Seed & RNG and RTP ...)

Have you pressed the "bet" button, before the reels have stopped.. thinking that it will give you a favorable outcome on your bet? Well, I have news for you... the outcome has been decided in milliseconds after you pressed the button for the bet, the GUI interface happens long after that to display the outcome of the bet to you.  Grin (Go into the developer mode of your browser to see this)
I am assuming that you are talking about house edge games and not sports betting because spotting patterns in sports is actually just doing research.

But actually about that autospin myth: there's a very weird and suspicious court case in Finland where man got 9 months parole sentence on suspected cheating in slot machines "somehow".
He got video of the machines and suddenly changed his gambling style from autospins to some specific tactic and got 33k profit. Which is pretty high in here as we don't have very low jackpots in physical machines.

You have to put this trough web translator, i don't think there's any english news on this:
https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/mies-keksi-keinon-huijata-veikkauksen-pelikoneita-pumppasi-kasinolta-33-000-euroa-konsti-on-yha-mysteeri-kaikille/8638254


What patterns do you see and how much do you believe in it?
I would be lying if i said that i didn't constantly were looking for them. Human brains are wired to do that to make best of any situation. This doesn't mean that those patterns exist or that we would be smart enough to understand them. I constantly see all sorts of false patterns for winning and losing, they don't make any sense and i let them come and go as they are part of the fun.




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April 27, 2023, 03:38:28 PM
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As humans, we are conditioned to look for patterns in life and we gamblers try to make predictions based on what we see, while we are gambling. The reality is that these patterns does not exist, but we like to pretend that they do because it helps us to bring order to the chaos that are gambling.  Roll Eyes

Some people seem to think that your bet size will increase your chances to win, but that is simply a myth. The reality is that it simply means your payouts will be bigger when you do win.
To be honest, I don't trust gambling, but I like to gamble in football, because this is a sport that I like and has its own challenges when placing bets on certain clubs. In the slot gambling case there is no pattern that I see to be used as a reference for gamblers, because the available format is only spin and increase the number of bets.

Poker is also one of the interesting gambling compared to the slot, but I can understand everyone has different tastes, as far as I know there is no specific formula in gambling because we often rely on instinct and hope for luck.

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April 27, 2023, 04:18:24 PM
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As humans, we are conditioned to look for patterns in life and we gamblers try to make predictions based on what we see, while we are gambling. The reality is that these patterns does not exist, but we like to pretend that they do because it helps us to bring order to the chaos that are gambling.  Roll Eyes

Some people seem to think that your bet size will increase your chances to win, but that is simply a myth. The reality is that it simply means your payouts will be bigger when you do win.
To be honest, I don't trust gambling, but I like to gamble in football, because this is a sport that I like and has its own challenges when placing bets on certain clubs. In the slot gambling case there is no pattern that I see to be used as a reference for gamblers, because the available format is only spin and increase the number of bets.

Poker is also one of the interesting gambling compared to the slot, but I can understand everyone has different tastes, as far as I know there is no specific formula in gambling because we often rely on instinct and hope for luck.
Depending on gambling in the first place is never a good thing. Betting some would be fine as long as you can bear losing. No matter what game you engage yourself with, whether cardgame, dice game, sportsbetting and such; winning won't be certain. So choose what would give you enjoyment atleast, 'coz that would make your bets more worthy. What makes gambling bad in the first place is gambler's assumption of getting rich in an instant. This is more likely because of stories wherein players have earned huge reward from playing, without considering how much that player have lost during the 'run'. Everything would be based from luck or one's fate.

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What patterns do you see and how much do you believe in it?
I don't know but not seeing any patterns tbh and don't believe such a thing but maybe on more technical perspective of others they see it. If it's happening in milliseconds then that maybe not for human mind to see, or maybe not for me. So, it's best if we bet on sports rather than computer base gambling?
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What patterns do you see and how much do you believe in it?
You win today and not tomorrow and maybe not again the next day.

That's the pattern that we all know that when we bet today, we're just lucky and it's totally our lucky day and so we take profits and enjoy with it before the casino takes it back.

There's the gambler's fallacy.

So, it's best if we bet on sports rather than computer base gambling?
IMO, yup.

You get more chance winning in sports betting than with those type of games and they're mostly known as the luck based games. But you do choose what you think you've got more chance of winning.



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April 27, 2023, 04:44:39 PM
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As humans, we are conditioned to look for patterns in life and we gamblers try to make predictions based on what we see, while we are gambling. The reality is that these patterns does not exist, but we like to pretend that they do because it helps us to bring order to the chaos that are gambling.  Roll Eyes

Some people seem to think that your bet size will increase your chances to win, but that is simply a myth. The reality is that it simply means your payouts will be bigger when you do win.

A lot of my friends believe that it is better to spin the Slots manually, because "Auto spin" are rigged by the casinos... but that is also a myth. A lot of things come into play when a bet is made and it has nothing to do with the "auto bet" feature. (Client Seed / Server Seed & RNG and RTP ...)

Have you pressed the "bet" button, before the reels have stopped.. thinking that it will give you a favorable outcome on your bet? Well, I have news for you... the outcome has been decided in milliseconds after you pressed the button for the bet, the GUI interface happens long after that to display the outcome of the bet to you.  Grin (Go into the developer mode of your browser to see this)

What patterns do you see and how much do you believe in it?

I agree in general. When you play a luck based game, any of the possibilities can happen. People do martingale thinking that it will save them but then they lose 10 times in a row and boom then they need to wager a lot more to save their initial bet. When they lose 11th time, all of their stack will be gone. That's the most famous trap the gamblers fall in. Gambling is all about passing the time in a fun way. It is never about making money When the players forget that simple fact and try to make a living out of gambling, everything falls apart.

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What patterns do you see and how much do you believe in it?
I don't know but not seeing any patterns tbh and don't believe such a thing but maybe on more technical perspective of others they see it. If it's happening in milliseconds then that maybe not for human mind to see, or maybe not for me. So, it's best if we bet on sports rather than computer-based gambling.

I tried applying different patterns and strategies based on the success stories and testimonies of other gamblers but what I have learned is that the same fate doesn't always happen for everyone. We might believe in myths, mantras, and techniques but the result is usually luck based. Sports betting might be less risky since we can have a basis on where to bet or rely on trusted predictions compared to computer-based games but we should not disregard the fact that any form of gambling has risks of losing. We can actually create our own strategy but no technique is consistently reliable.
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April 27, 2023, 04:59:17 PM
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What patterns do you see and how much do you believe in it?
These patterns may not be real, but somehow unexplainable it has helped some gamblers get good wins from casino's.

For example, on slot games played online in some crypto casino's, I asked some of my friends who win big or have won big how they do it, and their response are always different each stating a pattern that they have noticed.

One said, "Whenever I play outside my house, that is on their mobile phones, they always record winning more significant than when they play at home."

Another said that, "He mostly plays slot on his laptop and notices that he getting bigger winning than when he plays on his mobile phone."

Another said, he plays mostly by midnight.

Another said that he gives breaks between the spins.

These are all patterns that these people have noticed, I do not blame them, we all like to think that somehow there is a way to attract/influence luck to be on our side whenever we gamble, especially with luck based games.

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A lot of my friends believe that it is better to spin the Slots manually, because "Auto spin" are rigged by the casinos... but that is also a myth. A lot of things come into play when a bet is made and it has nothing to do with the "auto bet" feature. (Client Seed / Server Seed & RNG and RTP ...)
Is that true......! How does your friend know that slots are automatically rigged and manually bla.bla. is there any evidence.

To be honest, I often make bets in slot games, manuals are boring for me, even though I rarely press the automatic button, but I often place bets by buying bonuses, rounds are also automatic but in a different way, only buying.

Overall buying bonuses in slot games, more profitable for me, I've won almost every time I made a round in the bonus purchase feature, it was fun for me and it worked, i think if the bookie is cheating in the method of buying bonuses the easiest thing if they do, the fact i saw nothing suspicious i think its a myth.

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My only strategies these days which is helping me to cut losses is betting randomly. LOL.
Betting randomly has given me not great profits but no major losses as well.
In a way the losses have decreased a lot since earlier I was using martingale which was giving me huge losses.
At least the losses have been cut which itself is like a win for me.

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I only have betting strategies and using martingale strategy at times after I knew it is very risky.
On the contrary there those who don't seem to see the Martingale strategy as one with a very high risk, but actually it is. The strategy is suited for those with big pockets and not for those with quite a bit, as you may have to lose your bets like on 7 rolls with a corresponding increase on stakes in each bets with a  possibility of a win awaiting you on the 8th and if you're someone with a bit of little pocket you may not even survive to a fifth or sixth bet not to talk of reaching 8th to recover your losses.
And that's why based on this analogy, I take the Martingale strategy in gambling as a strategy favourable to those with large pocket.
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