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May 13, 2023, 12:01:11 AM
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I thought VAR is used in a live game so is there any way sportbooks can offer VAR? Online casinos have not offer that in their sites so I don't know for that. And I don't think they will even implement VAR in their sportbooks because bettors might not like it because of it complicated nature. Op your accusation of betnomi there no water tight evidence on the accusation so we should keep that side aside and let focus on the VAR. VAR can not be added to online casinos sportbooks for now.
Betnomi already offered it, so I don't see why the other sportsbooks can't, and they only have to do is get the same odds provider.

Most gamblers wouldn't bet on VAR, but others like to make bet builders and would probably take them based on the stats. If anything, it's a plus for both the sportsbook and the gamblers as it's similar to betting on offsides.

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May 14, 2023, 02:54:48 AM
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VAR technology has started to be implemented since the 2021/2022 season, where it can improve the overall performance of match monitoring technology.
And as long as the people watching him through the VAR technology can be completely honest, I think the match will also be honest and no cheating can happen.
Having cameras on all sides of the field will be able to monitor the match properly and the slightest cheating can be detected to minimise violations.
But I don't know what the gamblers' reaction will be if, for example, one goal is cancelled because of cheating that has occurred but that can make the match fair.
You can read this article again to see how VAR is:
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https://www.thepunterspage.com/var-betting/
VAR existed to make a game free and fair, to eliminate and diminish completely the act of cheating, and to penalize any breach of the game's regulations. For example, a handball in your territory box, which the referee may not have seen the entire situation, but VAR has everything on camera and immediately informed the referee for a possible handball check, which is either deliberate or not, the entire decision is up to the referee. Gamblers will not be dismayed; after all, they know the truth about cheated procedures, and there is always a consequence for it.

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May 14, 2023, 10:20:13 AM
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VAR technology has started to be implemented since the 2021/2022 season, where it can improve the overall performance of match monitoring technology.
And as long as the people watching him through the VAR technology can be completely honest, I think the match will also be honest and no cheating can happen.
Having cameras on all sides of the field will be able to monitor the match properly and the slightest cheating can be detected to minimise violations.
But I don't know what the gamblers' reaction will be if, for example, one goal is cancelled because of cheating that has occurred but that can make the match fair.
You can read this article again to see how VAR is:
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https://www.thepunterspage.com/var-betting/
VAR existed to make a game free and fair, to eliminate and diminish completely the act of cheating, and to penalize any breach of the game's regulations. For example, a handball in your territory box, which the referee may not have seen the entire situation, but VAR has everything on camera and immediately informed the referee for a possible handball check, which is either deliberate or not, the entire decision is up to the referee. Gamblers will not be dismayed; after all, they know the truth about cheated procedures, and there is always a consequence for it.
And maybe that's why the bookmakers wanted to apply it to their sites so people don't think they're cheating gamblers.
But somehow, the reaction of the gamblers is if, for example, they have won the match but it turns out that the referee disallowed the goal that came in because it was proven that there was cheating in the match.
They will surely be disappointed to see that, as they were not aware of any foul play in that match and only saw it as a goal conceded.
It looks like the bookmakers need to collect data from gamblers and maybe they can vote on their members before they apply it to their site.
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May 14, 2023, 11:07:27 AM
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VAR existed to make a game free and fair, to eliminate and diminish completely the act of cheating, and to penalize any breach of the game's regulations.
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VAR is just a technology that again depends on the people who use it, and if the people (referees) are corrupt or don't understand the rules, that technology is completely useless, and in some cases it even destroys the game. When I say "destroys", I especially mean goals scored that are then canceled due to offside by just a few millimeters, and at the same time some very dubious decisions are not reviewed at all with the help of VAR because that is what the judges in the VAR room decide.

Personally, I am not surprised that VAR has also appeared in sports betting, because bookmakers are just looking for a way to make even more money, no matter how meaningless some offers seem.

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May 14, 2023, 12:53:06 PM
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Nowadays everything is improving with technology. But no one is sure whether VAR will launch a sportsbook or not. In particular, football is a fast-paced game, there are plenty of rules being broken and referees naturally make mistakes. And VAR will try to solve these problems. But that doesn't mean VAR technology is completely accurate. First, camera angles are not always perfect. Many things cannot be accurately judged without being in the field, at least not with a handful of cameras. When it comes to games, nothing can ever be perfect.

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May 14, 2023, 06:35:32 PM
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VAR existed to make a game free and fair, to eliminate and diminish completely the act of cheating, and to penalize any breach of the game's regulations.
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VAR is just a technology that again depends on the people who use it, and if the people (referees) are corrupt or don't understand the rules, that technology is completely useless, and in some cases it even destroys the game. When I say "destroys", I especially mean goals scored that are then canceled due to offside by just a few millimeters, and at the same time some very dubious decisions are not reviewed at all with the help of VAR because that is what the judges in the VAR room decide.

Personally, I am not surprised that VAR has also appeared in sports betting, because bookmakers are just looking for a way to make even more money, no matter how meaningless some offers seem.
This is something I do not really like about the VAR, they get incredibly strict when it comes to the offside rule even when it is impossible for a human to discern if there is really any offside at all, however when it comes to some clear fouls which can then cause the referee to take an important decision, like calling a penalty kick or showing a red card, and suddenly the VAR goes silent and does not even call the referee to review their previous decision, making the VAR nowhere near as effective as I thought it could be.

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May 15, 2023, 09:22:26 AM
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As I already wrote, people are the weakest link, no matter how good a technology is, it can be misused and used selectively. If I were in the place of the decision makers, I would seriously consider changing the VAR rules so that each team has x number of requests during the match when they can ask for a check. Something similar to what existed (or still exists in tennis), and I think it would be much fairer than the way it is arranged today.

After all, if FIFA wanted to play a fair game, it wouldn't have set things up this way, but we all know that they and fairness don't go in the same sentence.

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May 15, 2023, 05:19:35 PM
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VAR existed to make a game free and fair, to eliminate and diminish completely the act of cheating, and to penalize any breach of the game's regulations.
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VAR is just a technology that again depends on the people who use it, and if the people (referees) are corrupt or don't understand the rules, that technology is completely useless, and in some cases it even destroys the game. When I say "destroys", I especially mean goals scored that are then canceled due to offside by just a few millimeters, and at the same time some very dubious decisions are not reviewed at all with the help of VAR because that is what the judges in the VAR room decide.

Personally, I am not surprised that VAR has also appeared in sports betting, because bookmakers are just looking for a way to make even more money, no matter how meaningless some offers seem.

The VAR exists to assist the referee in order to have fair and just decision. It is like a backup for them in case they missed their judgments.
As there are indeed some mistakes when it comes to decision because referees are only humans so they are indeed subject to bias even if they know the rules.
Now, it depends on the person or the team how they will assess the VAR itself to attain the fairness of the game.
The reason why we have such is to make sure everything is fair and not additional reason why people will doubt the results of the game.
Hence, the VAR team should use this as a tool as much as possible to avoid wrong decisions committed inside the field.
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May 15, 2023, 05:54:58 PM
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VAR existed to make a game free and fair, to eliminate and diminish completely the act of cheating, and to penalize any breach of the game's regulations.
~snip~

VAR is just a technology that again depends on the people who use it, and if the people (referees) are corrupt or don't understand the rules, that technology is completely useless, and in some cases it even destroys the game. When I say "destroys", I especially mean goals scored that are then canceled due to offside by just a few millimeters, and at the same time some very dubious decisions are not reviewed at all with the help of VAR because that is what the judges in the VAR room decide.

Personally, I am not surprised that VAR has also appeared in sports betting, because bookmakers are just looking for a way to make even more money, no matter how meaningless some offers seem.

The VAR exists to assist the referee in order to have fair and just decision. It is like a backup for them in case they missed their judgments.
As there are indeed some mistakes when it comes to decision because referees are only humans so they are indeed subject to bias even if they know the rules.
Now, it depends on the person or the team how they will assess the VAR itself to attain the fairness of the game.
The reason why we have such is to make sure everything is fair and not additional reason why people will doubt the results of the game.
Hence, the VAR team should use this as a tool as much as possible to avoid wrong decisions inside the field.

when I watch games from the main leagues like the Bundesliga, La Liga, Premier League, Ligue1, Portuguese League, Serie A (Italian League) and when there is a conflict situation in which a player touches the ball with his hand and in the zone of the goalkeeper and the referee has doubts because he was not following the play very closely so he activates the VAR and when the referee is analyzing the video the TV channels are filming the analysis that the referee is doing in the video, all that we are watching we can see the analysis and whether or not it was a penalty and when the referee makes the decision the tv channels that are broadcasting the game replay the situation that led the player to pick up the ball and the VAR and with that the commentators too give your opinion on the situation

by that I mean that VAR technology is improving a lot the quality of play and fairness in a game, it may have some small flaws, but it is not as worse as before VAR existed, and with VAR technology it prevents cheating like some referee being bought by the opponent, this type of corruption in soccer has been greatly reduced. but I am surprised that there is any casino that has a VAR betting market, I wonder what they bet on, because there are already cards markets, I very much doubt that many people are interested in wanting to bet on this VAR market

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May 15, 2023, 07:07:55 PM
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I am surprised that there is any casino that has a VAR betting market, I wonder what they bet on, because there are already cards markets, I very much doubt that many people are interested in wanting to bet on this VAR market
No need to be surprised on sportsbook or casinos that offer both sportsbook games not having to offer a VAR market. No doubt that VAR has greatly improved the quality of play and fairness in sports but, its relatively a new system and it doesn't necessarily mean that, there have to be a market for it or every event in sports.

No the less, its almost certain that, there would always be some occurnace in sports that would require a VAR review in almost every game. Sportsbook won't want to lose money on those due to its certainty but, defining what event would be checked and reducing the odds would be a nice way to place it.

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May 15, 2023, 09:38:15 PM
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you can find sometimes these bets in betfair.com since they have "free markets" in exchange where there is not a stop during VAR consultation.
by the way if you have some issues with betnomi or any complaint it's much better open a scam accusation and discuss the issue and not just post a random post against them.

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May 18, 2023, 02:24:34 PM
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And maybe that's why the bookmakers wanted to apply it to their sites so people don't think they're cheating gamblers.
But somehow, the reaction of the gamblers is if, for example, they have won the match but it turns out that the referee disallowed the goal that came in because it was proven that there was cheating in the match.
They will surely be disappointed to see that, as they were not aware of any foul play in that match and only saw it as a goal conceded.
It looks like the bookmakers need to collect data from gamblers and maybe they can vote on their members before they apply it to their site.
In what way a sportsbook can cheat the gambler? I think they have no association with the game. This is not like the typical casino sites where manipulation can happen. Bookmakers wants this VAR because they believe on its decision more than the referees but it would be better to have another market for non-VAR games because there are some people who dislike it.

There might be some difference in the outcome of the games between bar and non VAR. Cheating or match-fixing in a live match done by the players is another story. Only the real/human referee can noticed this and stopped them. Sportsbook will need to arrange bets accordingly when this happens.

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May 19, 2023, 11:56:12 AM
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And maybe that's why the bookmakers wanted to apply it to their sites so people don't think they're cheating gamblers.
But somehow, the reaction of the gamblers is if, for example, they have won the match but it turns out that the referee disallowed the goal that came in because it was proven that there was cheating in the match.
They will surely be disappointed to see that, as they were not aware of any foul play in that match and only saw it as a goal conceded.
It looks like the bookmakers need to collect data from gamblers and maybe they can vote on their members before they apply it to their site.
In what way a sportsbook can cheat the gambler? I think they have no association with the game. This is not like the typical casino sites where manipulation can happen. Bookmakers wants this VAR because they believe on its decision more than the referees but it would be better to have another market for non-VAR games because there are some people who dislike it.

There might be some difference in the outcome of the games between bar and non VAR. Cheating or match-fixing in a live match done by the players is another story. Only the real/human referee can noticed this and stopped them. Sportsbook will need to arrange bets accordingly when this happens.

It seems like there might be some confusion among members regarding the VAR market in sportsbooks, and some may not even understand what it actually means. In simple terms, VAR is just another event or factor that can influence the outcome of a sports match. So, when bookies introduce the VAR market, they're basically giving you a chance to bet on how VAR decisions might affect the outcome of a game. For example, one can bet on whether a goal will be disallowed or a penalty will be awarded due to a VAR intervention. It adds an extra layer of unpredictability to the betting experience.

But for some, VAR is still kinda fresh and not everyone is used to it or knows how to deal with it when placing their bets.

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May 24, 2023, 08:37:13 PM
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As I already wrote, people are the weakest link, no matter how good a technology is, it can be misused and used selectively. If I were in the place of the decision makers, I would seriously consider changing the VAR rules so that each team has x number of requests during the match when they can ask for a check. Something similar to what existed (or still exists in tennis), and I think it would be much fairer than the way it is arranged today.

After all, if FIFA wanted to play a fair game, it wouldn't have set things up this way, but we all know that they and fairness don't go in the same sentence.
This is the way the NFL works, and while not everything is reviewable the great majority of the plays can in fact be reviewed, so giving a number of chances to each coach to issue a challenge with an additional one in the case each one of their previous challenges was correct seems like the correct way to go, now since soccer is incredibly dynamic I suppose there must be a time limit between the moment the doubtful play happens and the moment a challenge is requested, but even then such a thing will really help the sport to make the most out of the VAR.

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As I already wrote, people are the weakest link, no matter how good a technology is, it can be misused and used selectively. If I were in the place of the decision makers, I would seriously consider changing the VAR rules so that each team has x number of requests during the match when they can ask for a check. Something similar to what existed (or still exists in tennis), and I think it would be much fairer than the way it is arranged today.

After all, if FIFA wanted to play a fair game, it wouldn't have set things up this way, but we all know that they and fairness don't go in the same sentence.
This is the way the NFL works, and while not everything is reviewable the great majority of the plays can in fact be reviewed, so giving a number of chances to each coach to issue a challenge with an additional one in the case each one of their previous challenges was correct seems like the correct way to go, now since soccer is incredibly dynamic I suppose there must be a time limit between the moment the doubtful play happens and the moment a challenge is requested, but even then such a thing will really help the sport to make the most out of the VAR.
That's how it is done in cricket. Both teams get 2 reviews per inning (or half, you could say), and they get a 15-second timer to call for a review if the captain or a player thinks that the decision of the on-field umpire is not correct and they want to challenge it. If they call for a review, the third umpire then reviews the situation and asks the on-field umpire to change their decision or stay with their decision based on the results of the review.

The same should be applied to football or any other sport I think and that will be fair to both teams, a limited number of chances for asking for a review and also a timer the review can be called within.

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What do you mean by Betnomi cheaters"?
Do you have any proof of them cheating you in any way before? All I can see is that Betnomi has a good reputation in this forum. So before calling them cheaters, you should have solid proof to back that up; you don't just wake up and start calling people by their project names without any reason.
I thought as much and I hate it when some random persons just wake and start speaking  ill of the businesses of others without any visible proves and @ op you should jbow that this kind of accusations could earn you red tags for accusing g someone wrongly without any valid proves.
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June 05, 2023, 07:16:30 PM
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This is the way the NFL works, and while not everything is reviewable the great majority of the plays can in fact be reviewed, so giving a number of chances to each coach to issue a challenge with an additional one in the case each one of their previous challenges was correct seems like the correct way to go, now since soccer is incredibly dynamic I suppose there must be a time limit between the moment the doubtful play happens and the moment a challenge is requested, but even then such a thing will really help the sport to make the most out of the VAR.
That's how it is done in cricket. Both teams get 2 reviews per inning (or half, you could say), and they get a 15-second timer to call for a review if the captain or a player thinks that the decision of the on-field umpire is not correct and they want to challenge it. If they call for a review, the third umpire then reviews the situation and asks the on-field umpire to change their decision or stay with their decision based on the results of the review.

The same should be applied to football or any other sport I think and that will be fair to both teams, a limited number of chances for asking for a review and also a timer the review can be called within.
I did not knew that, it is great to know, personally I really think those changes should be made, now even then the VAR will not solve every single suspicious and controversial decision made by the referees, but as things stand right now the VAR has done nothing but to increase the suspicions of the public about the integrity of the game, so I really hope FIFA is willing to recognize the failings on the current system and adjust their rules accordingly.

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