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September 27, 2023, 08:10:48 AM
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It depends on you

Do trade when you know what you doing and want to gain a profit over time
do invest when you want to HOLD for a long period of time

both of them have their own risk so choose carefully, tho most people that I know is do both of them trade/scalping for usually altcoin and invest on bitcoin for long period of time

I just thought of it today, I think all trading are investments but not all investments are trading. Tho trading and investments are two distinct approaches on how manage your finances, to both you have to consider your risk tolerance, your expertise in trading/ investing, and your goal. In investing, usually it takes years where you have to hold your invested money and wait for the return. You can just leave it there or find an expert who can monitor your investments for you and you'll just have to wait for your profit.

Trading on the other hand requires skills and deep understanding of the market. I doubt experienced traders would prefer to let someone else do the trade for them? I mean, it requires active involvement to the market so you can be sure that you are not being left out. Trading, most of the time, is short term because you can receive returns relatively quick from price swings.

It would be wise to have knowledge in both. Smiley Like don't put all your eggs in one basket perspective.

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September 27, 2023, 08:21:11 PM
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Learning and trading actually are still different. We may learn how the basics go with trading but when it's come to the actuality, a lot of things changes.
We have to deal with the reality that it's really different from what we've learned through the theoretical way.
If you're too emotional and not prepared for it, your experiences could be the reason why you want to stop trading and choose the investing way. But even with that choice, it's not an easy path as well.
this much is actually the truth, sometime theory isn't gonna fit with practicality and what really occurred in real scenario, some time the technical analysis become useless when there's sudden rumour going around in regard of the coin that we are trading and investing, its just really obscure overall in determining how the market will actually moves.
therefore second plan or back up plan is always essential and needed because our trade and investment could definitely go wrong.
added with the fact that sometimes there is manipulation occurring if you are investing in relatively low market capitalization coin.
Right, if we're going to apply theories and stats, sometimes they don't just align and what we need to do is to go with the actual situation of the market.
And sometimes it's the vice versa, on this matter what you need to do is whatever works for you. It's your money and you need to know what's best for you in that case.
Having back up plans like if you're a trader and you think that you'll not end up with being good at it, there's always the other way through investing.


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September 27, 2023, 08:50:51 PM
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I am not good at anything but I have just learned through experience and stay on the market.

Trading is a difficult task, and only a well-experienced trader can do it, so people who do not have experience and knowledge should prefer investing over trading.
And those people that have done trading but they think that they can't do it and they're just making losses instead of profit should prefer investing. It's not a problem if you're not good in trading when you're making profits but it's not a temporary problem that will be made. You'll have that time that you will see yourself that you're going to loss and you'll have that tough time to recover when you're not good at it. So much better to put that money into investing and let it grow on its own over the period of time.
Indeed, by investing it will be easier to do so, but for those who want to do trading as their main job there is nothing wrong, but you need to know that you can learn until you have good knowledge about trading. Trading has a greater level of risk than investing, therefore we should not only judge it in terms of profits, but we must also consider the risks so that we don't regret it later.
According to the market you have to decide whether you will trade or invest. We need to have a good understanding of both trading and investing so that we can do the right thing at the right time according to the market. Whenever you feel that long term investing is better than trading then you should definitely invest instead of trading. Again trading is a better decision than investing when the market fluctuates naturally so you must be more focused on trading at that time. 

If you think you will do investment and trading together then that is totally up to you which needs good amount of financial support. If there is good financial support you can invest in any one coin for a long time and carry out your own trading activities in all other coins.

In my opinion investing is not difficult for a newbie, just a little knowledge about market and coins is required. If one only knows what is bear season and bull season. Even if a newbie doesn't know about a good and strong project, he can choose a few good coins from the top 100 coins in the market.

While this is not the case in trading.Trading cannot be done with one or two years of experience or by watching various YouTube videos or getting information from social media platforms. Trading requires a lot of experience. You need at least 7 to 10 years of experience in my opinion. Investment and trading, they are two different things with different requirements.As easy as you think investment and trading are the same, it is not so easy.

In my opinion, for long-term investment, instead of one coin, your capital should be divided into different coins, so that the loss rate can be minimized.
7-10 years is already that too exagerrated on which i would really be definitely be saying that 1-2 years should be an enough window for you to be able to have that right experience towards this market and it would really be depending or varying on how serious and how many hours you've been dealing with trading and its true that learning could really be acquired through real experience and not just on reading up some books or seeing some youtube video or simply it is something that you could really only gain with your own experience towards it. Somewhat having that a decade kind of engagement is really just that too much of a standard. If you do last up that long then this do indicates that you are really that doing well with trading because you wont really be lasting up for couple of years if you arent seeing something progressive towards your career path.
Trading or investment? It would really be your choice to make but if you could really be able to handle both then why not as long you do know on how to manage your finances and could be able to sustain
for long then it would really be an advantage for you to deal up both things which we know that it could potentially bring up profits and income if you do it well.

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September 27, 2023, 09:55:20 PM
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Do trade when you know what you doing and want to gain a profit over time
do invest when you want to HOLD for a long period of time
I personally will trade when I think it is a good time for trading and I can gain profits faster. For trading, I will take profits for few days, I rarely target for weekly. While I prefer to invest if I think the coin will have significant growth in the future. Most of the coins that I'm holding for a long time are reputable coins, those coins who are proven already for some years.

both of them have their own risk so choose carefully, tho most people that I know is do both of them trade/scalping for usually altcoin and invest on bitcoin for long period of time
Yes, I prefer to choose altcoins if it is for trading. Altcoins have higher volatility, so I can get good chance for higher profits. While Bitcoin will grow gradually, it is rarely moving significantly in short time. So, it is better for holding BTC as a long term asset.


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September 27, 2023, 11:14:00 PM
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I personally will trade when I think it is a good time for trading and I can gain profits faster. For trading, I will take profits for few days, I rarely target for weekly. While I prefer to invest if I think the coin will have significant growth in the future. Most of the coins that I'm holding for a long time are reputable coins, those coins who are proven already for some years.
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So distinguish which one you want to trade and want to invest in for the long term.
No need to research anymore, long-term investment is certainly the choice is Bitcoin and you can also choose ETH as a second investment option because you see how ETH's potential in the future is quite good, experiencing significant development and always following the price of Bitcoin.

For the trades you make, it may be very appropriate when the market is hyped and some of the coin volumes you want to trade are large enough so that price movements will be faster.

Taking profits in a few days or trade scalping mode may be more suitable.
It will be done quickly, but you also need good technical knowledge and already know how the market will go.
Don't guess without knowing the basics of trading, it's like gambling and has no clear direction.

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Yes, I prefer to choose altcoins if it is for trading. Altcoins have higher volatility, so I can get good chance for higher profits. While Bitcoin will grow gradually, it is rarely moving significantly in short time. So, it is better for holding BTC as a long term asset.
but quite fairly speaking the altcoin volatility isn't giving that great of a margin unless its some real high volatile coins like meme coin in general.
moreover altcoin in general are also following the trend of bitcoin, i've seen countless altcoin that was supposed to have volatility just stagnating because waiting for bitcoin trend to change.
therefore if its just mere volatility bitcoin actually already good enough for it but the advantage of trading altcoin is due to the fact that its value per unit is significantly cheaper so with small capital you can gain massive increase since doubling the value in altcoin is easier than in bitcoin I guess.

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September 28, 2023, 12:42:13 AM
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you are right, and the risk is greater when we don't know what we are doing. like a beginner who wants to try trading without any skills or experience. forcing myself to make a trade because I think it's very easy. Of course that makes the risk even greater. instead of making a profit, maybe a loss will come.
Trading on the other hand requires skills and deep understanding of the market. I doubt experienced traders would prefer to let someone else do the trade for them? I mean, it requires active involvement to the market so you can be sure that you are not being left out. Trading, most of the time, is short term because you can receive returns relatively quick from price swings.

Totally Trading has a greater risk but if you know about it you can easily make a profit in a matter of hours. Tho some new users dont know about trade just go all in on the futures market that going easily to beat in an hour too hahaha.

Yes, I prefer to choose altcoins if it is for trading. Altcoins have higher volatility, so I can get good chance for higher profits. While Bitcoin will grow gradually, it is rarely moving significantly in short time. So, it is better for holding BTC as a long term asset.

Yessss Altcoin is pretty much high volatile my friend also trade on altcoin, sometimes trade on shitcoin like pepecoin and shiba to test the heartbeart.

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I am not good at anything but I have just learned through experience and stay on the market.

Trading is a difficult task, and only a well-experienced trader can do it, so people who do not have experience and knowledge should prefer investing over trading.
And those people that have done trading but they think that they can't do it and they're just making losses instead of profit should prefer investing. It's not a problem if you're not good in trading when you're making profits but it's not a temporary problem that will be made. You'll have that time that you will see yourself that you're going to loss and you'll have that tough time to recover when you're not good at it. So much better to put that money into investing and let it grow on its own over the period of time.
Indeed, by investing it will be easier to do so, but for those who want to do trading as their main job there is nothing wrong, but you need to know that you can learn until you have good knowledge about trading. Trading has a greater level of risk than investing, therefore we should not only judge it in terms of profits, but we must also consider the risks so that we don't regret it later.
According to the market you have to decide whether you will trade or invest. We need to have a good understanding of both trading and investing so that we can do the right thing at the right time according to the market. Whenever you feel that long term investing is better than trading then you should definitely invest instead of trading. Again trading is a better decision than investing when the market fluctuates naturally so you must be more focused on trading at that time. 

If you think you will do investment and trading together then that is totally up to you which needs good amount of financial support. If there is good financial support you can invest in any one coin for a long time and carry out your own trading activities in all other coins.

In my opinion investing is not difficult for a newbie, just a little knowledge about market and coins is required. If one only knows what is bear season and bull season. Even if a newbie doesn't know about a good and strong project, he can choose a few good coins from the top 100 coins in the market.

While this is not the case in trading.Trading cannot be done with one or two years of experience or by watching various YouTube videos or getting information from social media platforms. Trading requires a lot of experience. You need at least 7 to 10 years of experience in my opinion. Investment and trading, they are two different things with different requirements.As easy as you think investment and trading are the same, it is not so easy.

In my opinion, for long-term investment, instead of one coin, your capital should be divided into different coins, so that the loss rate can be minimized.
7-10 years is already that too exagerrated on which i would really be definitely be saying that 1-2 years should be an enough window for you to be able to have that right experience towards this market and it would really be depending or varying on how serious and how many hours you've been dealing with trading and its true that learning could really be acquired through real experience and not just on reading up some books or seeing some youtube video or simply it is something that you could really only gain with your own experience towards it. Somewhat having that a decade kind of engagement is really just that too much of a standard. If you do last up that long then this do indicates that you are really that doing well with trading because you wont really be lasting up for couple of years if you arent seeing something progressive towards your career path.
Trading or investment? It would really be your choice to make but if you could really be able to handle both then why not as long you do know on how to manage your finances and could be able to sustain
for long then it would really be an advantage for you to deal up both things which we know that it could potentially bring up profits and income if you do it well.
If I share my experience, I have been in the crypto market for almost two years.I am also investing and trading but often I face loss in trading.It doesn't mean that I am not giving time to trading but I am giving good amount of time to trading and also trying hard to learn but I find trading much more difficult than investing.We always invest in good and strong coins rather than volatile ones, we don't worry if the price drops after we buy,but this is not the case in trading, we always choose a coin to trade which has high volatility and if ever its price falls below our buy price,So the risk of loss increases for us, because nothing can be said about the future of this coin.

So, we cannot keep trading coins for long. In a year or two, you can understand the crypto currency market, you can understand investing, but understanding and doing trading is a different thing. Our goal in trading is not just to trade. But our aim is to make good profit and to make good profit requires more experience which I think you will hardly get in two years. It is different that different people can have different mental capacity. Some people can learn to trade in two years, but some people may take longer to learn, but in my opinion, the longer the experience, the more mature and better the experience.


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For me i think both are good and its okay if you can do both just to diversify and maybe increase your earnings. it all depends on your schedules for example if you are the busy types but want to earn then i think investment will be good for you because you dont have to check your porfolio or the chart everytime. if you are the type that has free time, like to stare at chart, can sit and analysis pairs then i think trading will be good for you. both have their risks which i believe anyone venturing into any would have known the risks involved. also to invest you might not need to know alot of things but to be professional in trading it takes some time and a lot of practise.

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My answer to the question will depend on what area I have found myself doing, that is favorable to me. I can't find myself losing in either one of them(trading or investing) and I still decide to keep up with the one I am losing from more than the one I am gaining from. I will move on fully with the one I know how to do best.

I believe that out of all of my experiences with bitcoin, investing in it has been better than trading on it. This is due to the fact that I am more knowledgeable about bitcoin investment than I am on bitcoin trading. Investment has been best for me since I know about crypto.

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Everyone's brain experience is the same or different. But i can say that bitcoin is best for investment or long term holding but above all profit depends on how much dip opportunity you can buy bitcoin. Moreover bitcoin will give you a lot of security and your money will be safe because there will be no issue of scam here. So if the crypto market is in your favor it is possible to get dip price from bitcoin so you should be alert. However with crypto you can't go out of risk so you have to experience and deal with risk.

On the other hand i think trading is not good for newbies and especially diving into trading from bitcoin is more risky. So you can practice trading from other coins if you want and start trading later when it is available to you. But certain pairs need to be supported and equipped with fundamental analysis of such exchanges. Remember you need to extra time and risk is required to trade. Anyway you have to spend a lot of time looking for signals.
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For me i think both are good and its okay if you can do both just to diversify and maybe increase your earnings. it all depends on your schedules for example if you are the busy types but want to earn then i think investment will be good for you because you dont have to check your porfolio or the chart everytime. if you are the type that has free time, like to stare at chart, can sit and analysis pairs then i think trading will be good for you. both have their risks which i believe anyone venturing into any would have known the risks involved. also to invest you might not need to know alot of things but to be professional in trading it takes some time and a lot of practise.

Definitely the schedule of a person really tells what he should do that is either trading or investing. Now for trading you need to give specific time to the market. Do daily readings and need to do analysis of the coin. Now if we talk about investing, then here you only need to buy the assets and hold it. Now trading have higher returns but with higher returns, high risks also come. So according to the risk capabilities also, one can choose either trading or investing.

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I made my first trade in 1993 in financial markets, so I have some trading experience. Forget about intraday or short term trading in BTC because it's more difficult than stocks, futures or forex, and you will need a solid trading strategy and years of experience to make profits intraday trading cryptos.
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I will usually say to go for investment because through investment yes you will make money but it will be late but your chances of losing money will be very less if you invest at right time.  It will make you profit but it will take my time and you will be less likely to lose money.  Above I see traders who trade very fast in a very short period of time as well as they lose a lot of money.  To say that those who are trading from the beginning, from the beginning, in my opinion, are at a loss, and after gaining experience, they gain.  Many of them come out of the trading world due to financial problems.  But investments are not like that, in investment you will earn only waiting for time.  For this I would always go for investments.  Because in my opinion it is better to get rich by slowly saving wealth properly than not to become a poor by trying to get rich very quickly.
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If I share my experience, I have been in the crypto market for almost two years.I am also investing and trading but often I face loss in trading.It doesn't mean that I am not giving time to trading but I am giving good amount of time to trading and also trying hard to learn but I find trading much more difficult than investing.We always invest in good and strong coins rather than volatile ones, we don't worry if the price drops after we buy,but this is not the case in trading, we always choose a coin to trade which has high volatility and if ever its price falls below our buy price,So the risk of loss increases for us, because nothing can be said about the future of this coin.

So, we cannot keep trading coins for long. In a year or two, you can understand the crypto currency market, you can understand investing, but understanding and doing trading is a different thing. Our goal in trading is not just to trade. But our aim is to make good profit and to make good profit requires more experience which I think you will hardly get in two years. It is different that different people can have different mental capacity. Some people can learn to trade in two years, but some people may take longer to learn, but in my opinion, the longer the experience, the more mature and better the experience.
It would always falls down on someones preference because even majority of people would be telling that they should be doing trading but since its something that cant really be that done by anyone or doing well on this one then its just wise that you shouldn't really be pursuing on things which is really that out of your interest or passion because it would really be just resulting into things which you dont really like to see.
Frustration and disappointment would comes next if you arent really that good on handling yourself when it comes to emotional aspect. This is why on the time that you do make out some choice then it would really be just that be depending on what are your plans or you would really be sticking on where you are somewhat comfortable and not to tend to touch up things which is really that outside of your capability.

Whats your take? It would be depending on your preference or simply basing up with your own capability because if you do see that trading isnt your genre then better take that investment path
but if you do see that you do have that potential on doing trading or could really be able to sustain yourself then having more income sources or profit sources the better.
It is really just a matter of time management and of course with your  funding too which it would really be that crucial for this part.

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I prefer to go for investment 10 times before I’ll think of trading. I’m not good at trading and I’m not the type of person that’ll be keeping an eye on the market because I easily lose focus when everything gets bored or don’t work in my favour. The risk involved in trading is not worth something I can take so I’d rather go for investment and watch my savings grow whether in my favour or not, at least the loss is going to be minimal as compared to trading.
For sure investment is a better plan as compared to trading. But there is one thing you should notice that trading may be give someone more money at a time and it sometimes give huge loss at a time. So, there is more risk as compared to investment. But if we look at investment, if someone has invested then it will take some time to gain some hype and to gain the profit it will take also time. But there is very less chance of getting in loss. While in trading it is more risky to play with the money. I would also suggest that investment is better choice.

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For sure investment is a better plan as compared to trading. But there is one thing you should notice that trading may be give someone more money at a time and it sometimes give huge loss at a time. So, there is more risk as compared to investment. But if we look at investment, if someone has invested then it will take some time to gain some hype and to gain the profit it will take also time. But there is very less chance of getting in loss. While in trading it is more risky to play with the money. I would also suggest that investment is better choice.
Actually, both trading and investment are good plans. Both can give much money if we know how to do them properly. But if we trade or invest in the wrong way, surely we may end up with big losses. The risks are the same, it is about losing money. Regarding which to have higher risk, I think it depends on the knowledge and experience of the individual. Although you think trading is riskier, it may be quite safe if we have enough knowledge and experience about trading. Trading only has a big risk if we trade in a random way.

The best way is to do both trading and investing in crypto. We don't need to avoid trading, we must learn it. If we never try to learn it, we will never be an expert/experienced trader. But do it in a proper way, use the capital wisely. If we think we already know well trading, we can use big capital. But if we are still in the beginning phase, it is better to use small capital. A beginner must prioritize learning than earning much money.


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October 19, 2023, 10:30:33 PM
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Now over to you reader, which aspect of bitcoin is best or worst experience? Where are you good at! Trading or investment? Bursts our brain with your expertise

Well, this depends on the individual either trader or investor, their skills level, the market they engage themselves in and a lot of other factors. If you are someone who is more concern about the future and planning for long time, investing will work well for you because trading is for short time and instant profit with high risk involved compare to investment. It's necessary to have idea and knowledge on whichever you choose but investing require a little knowledge and you can begin your investment because it has less risk. Trading require a lot of experience and skills before you can be able to start and your success is still not guaranteed due to high risk involved.

If you are thinking of investment, never consider altcoins as you may likely lose your money. Forget the hype some of them are getting from media. Invest in bitcoin for a long time and you'll not regret you did. Altcoins are only suitable for trading. Regardless, you should just embark on your personal research.

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For me i think both are good and its okay if you can do both just to diversify and maybe increase your earnings. it all depends on your schedules for example if you are the busy types but want to earn then i think investment will be good for you because you dont have to check your porfolio or the chart everytime. if you are the type that has free time, like to stare at chart, can sit and analysis pairs then i think trading will be good for you. both have their risks which i believe anyone venturing into any would have known the risks involved. also to invest you might not need to know alot of things but to be professional in trading it takes some time and a lot of practise.
it all comes down to personal liking, whether its trading and investing, if someone is vigorous enough to see the chart whole day 24/7 then they are fine with going with trading otherwise they could invest as a side earning.
with trading you can make big profit, but with big risk also requires you to mentally exhausts yourself.
meanwhile with investing, its as simple as just to wait until season changes. i personally would prefer to invest instead of trading since i'm not really good at it.
moreover i don't really want to make my head aching thinking of chart 24/7.

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In my opinion, investing or trading bitcoin both have their own advantages and disadvantages. Because of these two things (investing and trading) many people have proven and felt the benefits. So it can be concluded whether it is investing in Bitcoin or trading Bitcoin, it is still a good option to earn profits from Bitcoin. So basically it all depends on your wishes and abilities regarding these two things.

But for me personally, I prefer to just invest. Because investing in bitcoin doesn't take much time. Because currently I also have other activities. So choosing the investment path for me was the right thing. Additionally, as far as I know, the majority of bitcoin investors on this forum say that investing over a long period of time is the best way to get maximum profits. So I personally also agree with this. Because as we know, bitcoin has a clear cycle, such as halving which usually occurs within four years. In addition, after the halving cycle is always followed by a bullish market. Therefore, long-term investment in bitcoin, in my opinion, is the best thing for bitcoin investors to do. Because bitcoin does have a regular cycle every four years.

And for trading I like to do it on altcoins. I also do it over a certain period of time, not in a short time, for example not in a week, but for months. Because if I do daily trading, in my opinion I need very large capital to be able to get significant profits. So for trading I also have a time period of months.

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