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April 28, 2023, 06:25:18 AM
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Is it better to have  a place to discuss only about NFTs?

I think that would be a good for NFT lovers
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April 28, 2023, 10:03:22 AM
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Is it better to have  a place to discuss only about NFTs?

I think that would be a good for NFT lovers
You mean that there should be a section in this forum for them? I am not against it but i can't see why those threads wouldn't fit on altcoin section. They are technically tokens as well, and build on top of cryptocurrencies.

And if you want more, then every nft project has their own discord server and there are generic nft discord servers and subreddits out there as well. Twitter is pretty much a mecca for nft hype talk. You can't avoid those threads in here either so there's no shortage on the places that people talk about them.

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April 28, 2023, 10:36:06 AM
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In 2021 Logan Paul bought a NFT for $623,000 that is now only worth $10
But it’s not just digital influencers, celebrities like Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan and Bella Hadid have also jumped on the bandwagon, all of whom have made millions of dollars through digital assets like NFTs, and Logan Paul’s 2021 purchase should have boosted his net worth but didn’t.
His Azuki collection, purchased for $623,000, is only valued at $10 today.
https://www.geekmetaverse.com/in-2021-logan-paul-bought-a-nft-for-623000-that-is-now-only-worth-10/
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April 28, 2023, 11:35:33 AM
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What for? isn't NFT the same as altcoins so this place is enough for anyone to create a thread and discuss about NFT. If this is done then when a new trend emerges in crypto there will also be a request to have a special place that discusses this trend, so it's not an important thing to do at any time.
I'm quite curious whether NFT is still so interesting to own, and whether it still opens opportunities for owners to get big profits by continuing to hold it, because I don't follow its development and NFT is one of the trends in crypto that I've never been interested in getting involved in because of the new trend in altcoins only temporarily and only provides benefits for those who enter and leave early without thinking about keeping it for a long time.

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April 28, 2023, 11:43:31 AM
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NFT's are also altcoins so we won't really need to add more space that would just eat the performance of the forum. If you really want to talk more about NFT's there is Discord for every NFT game or applications which are all energetic. I stay there most of the time just to keep myself updated about my bought NFTs and of course to see if the value is going high.
But here in the forum, you won't see that kind of enthusiasm about them, it's normal, this is Bitcointalk and not NFTtalk. I recommend to just look for their groups in the said application.
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April 28, 2023, 12:31:16 PM
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One or two years ago when NFT is still hype there are few users demand to create section for NFT, but until now it's not created yet and seems never will be created. You can check the previous threads:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367417.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357077.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367417.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5408273.0

I don't think it's good to have NFT board when not many people really discuss about NFT, most of them only shill their NFT and spamming.

In 2021 Logan Paul bought a NFT for $623,000 that is now only worth $10
What you're talking about? did the @OP discuss about NFT price went to worthless or celebrities jump to invest in NFT?


Move this thread to Meta.

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April 28, 2023, 02:18:38 PM
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That's irrelevant for now. First I thought NFT is not a cryptocurrency. They are art-based projects and are priced according to bid figures at auction. At the moment I think technically NFT doesn't need a special section and we can discuss about NFT in the thread and I'm welcome to talk about NFT.

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April 28, 2023, 03:01:35 PM
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Is it better to have  a place to discuss only about NFTs?

I think that would be a good for NFT lovers
we can divide alt coins into two parts 1) fungible and 2) non fungible. fungible tokens are this which we buy and trade on many exchange like Eth, matic etc while Non fungible are in the shape of image, gif or video. now its cleared non fungible is also an Altcoins.

We can discuss NFT related discussion in altcoins thread. some thread has been already created in this section for this purpose by Appocollapse and i think there is no need of separate section for nft now.

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April 28, 2023, 04:32:51 PM
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Can't we classified them as altcoin? Despite is not altcoin but I think that is the right place to discuss about NFTs are on the altcoin sections. I think few people already shared about it, but if I may ask why do you wanna venture into NFTs I don't think it's worth investing or to give attention to it, if you ask me I would advised you to focused on real project that just looking towards NFTs.
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April 28, 2023, 04:42:24 PM
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There should be a forum for Bitcoin Ordinals as this is a part of Bitcoin that was recently integrated. The main board being for discussion, and a sub-board for people to promote (or even trade/advertise) their owned Ordinals. NFTs on the other hand are on other blockchains. NFTs do not truly exist on the Bitcoin blockchain, ordinals have just been dubbed as "Bitcoin NFTs" or "NFTs on Bitcoin".

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April 28, 2023, 10:14:58 PM
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There should be a forum for Bitcoin Ordinals as this is a part of Bitcoin that was recently integrated. The main board being for discussion, and a sub-board for people to promote (or even trade/advertise) their owned Ordinals. NFTs on the other hand are on other blockchains. NFTs do not truly exist on the Bitcoin blockchain, ordinals have just been dubbed as "Bitcoin NFTs" or "NFTs on Bitcoin".

I agree. Currently the only place to discuss NFTs is in the altcoin tokens section. Now that NFTs are a reality on the Bitcoin blockchain it makes sense to have a place to discuss and learn more about them. I for one think that Ordinals are a great step towards being able to bridge some of the missing functionality of smart chains to Bitcoin.

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April 28, 2023, 11:10:35 PM
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One or two years ago when NFT is still hype there are few users demand to create section for NFT, but until now it's not created yet and seems never will be created. You can check the previous threads:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367417.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357077.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367417.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5408273.0

I don't think it's good to have NFT board when not many people really discuss about NFT, most of them only shill their NFT and spamming.

I don't even see much discussion about NFT in the forum, unless probably in the altcoins board, which I don't really find much interest in going through. I think it was around 2021 and last year that NFT was hyped, but not so much today as in the past.

From the second and last link you provided, a staff member gave out merit to those suggestions, which means he may also have had interest in them, but I think theymos will probably not approve it.

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April 29, 2023, 01:37:51 PM
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Is it better to have  a place to discuss only about NFTs?

This is bitcointalk majorly created for bitcoin discussions but Non Fungible Tokens can also be discussed here but that is on altcoins discussion board, this is the major section assigned for such discussions on this forum, you can scroll abit downward from the home page where you have the list of boards available on the forum with respect to their child boards, there you will discover the alternative currencies discuss board and you can make your post as needed.

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April 29, 2023, 02:20:50 PM
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If you care to search for the topic you have created then you would find lot of similar threads on forum where this discussion was carried on about different board for NFT discussion but the answer remains the same that it's altcoin related discussion and we have dedicated board for it.

It was time when it was in hype but at this time most of the NFT's are dead while the existing one's are there with little progress to what projects they have set in roadmap on most of the chains but the overall NFT market is not in much hype so demanding a separate place for these discussions is not important according to me especially when there are lot of important updates pending for the forum and @theymos will implement them first of all.

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In 2021 Logan Paul bought a NFT for $623,000 that is now only worth $10
But it’s not just digital influencers, celebrities like Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan and Bella Hadid have also jumped on the bandwagon, all of whom have made millions of dollars through digital assets like NFTs, and Logan Paul’s 2021 purchase should have boosted his net worth but didn’t.
His Azuki collection, purchased for $623,000, is only valued at $10 today.
https://www.geekmetaverse.com/in-2021-logan-paul-bought-a-nft-for-623000-that-is-now-only-worth-10/

Context? No? I didn't get what is the point of sharing this here. This is not an NFT Discussion thread, for sure. OP asked if there is a place in this forum for discussing NFT. He created This topic and moved to Meta, asking if there is a separate section. But, You are sharing who bought the NFT, when and how much it's worth. Answering any post without reading the content is called shit post / Signature spam. I hope you know that because you are an experienced member wearing a good campaign signature.

Is it better to have  a place to discuss only about NFTs?

You can discuss NFT on the Altcoin discussion board. NFTs are tokens AKA alt coins. (non-fungible tokens). So, it fits in Altcoin Discussion

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April 29, 2023, 05:25:37 PM
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Is it better to have  a place to discuss only about NFTs?
I think that would be a good for NFT lovers

Wait, so we still have people falling for this scams called NFT that mostly their creators or influencer are those profiting from this trend while the rest of us buy worthless piece of arts that can be easily screenshots or shared. NFT are worthless and doesn't fit to have a board on its own. If we give NFT a baord then we have to be ready to give every trend that get introduced to the market their own board. After NFT are we also going to give Metaverse, AI , Defi etc their own boards? All this trends can still be classified as an altcoins or fits in the alternative discussion boards.

Best the forum avoids giving NFT much attention as any positive decision they take now would be interpreted by the members as some form of endorsement, if NFT gets its own board then the forum members would pick more interest in the trend and it would definitely end badly for them, many people have been rekted by investing in NFT and at this point, it's best to stay away from them. Just because people are been lucky and making money from it doesn't mean it's a credible form of investing, NFT aren't any different from memecoins to me, they all need the same type of hype (celebrity hype) for them to get value, they're worthless without that hype.

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I understand the angle you ask from as a rather new member of this forum. The sections/threads are for exploring and you could get only useful news about NFTs or other special services on the Alt discussion thread. More than just pointing you in the direction is also the need to know and distinguish it.

NFTs is a major service offered by Ethereum. It is the kind of technology on which it runs that Ethereum was designed for. This is clearly Bitcoin talk and forum. Bitcoin is more or less a digital currency, just like we have CBDC. But it and both are functional on a decentralized system.

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April 29, 2023, 10:35:10 PM
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Is it better to have  a place to discuss only about NFTs?

I think that would be a good for NFT lovers

NFTs are dead now and the hype of NFT is now over at least for the time being. So do you want to have a separate board for something which is not of much interest to the community???

However, You can still discuss them in Altcoin sections and that is the most appropriate place for them. No more boards can be created for things that can be fitted in already established boards.

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Is it better to have  a place to discuss only about NFTs?

I think that would be a good for NFT lovers

There are a lot of NFT supporters in the altcoin section I consider NFT part of the altcoin community so there's no need to create a dedicated board for NFT and besides NFT is not a long-term and dedicated industry if you set up a poll you'll see that many are not in favor of setting up a dedicated board for NFT, especially those who lose a lot of money investing in NFT, and I don't there's a huge number of NFT lovers this is just a hype that will soon fade away.

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Have seen several threads requesting for same, in all of them there was answer that nft threads can be posted in altcoin discussion and thus ends the discussion.

There should be a forum for Bitcoin Ordinals as this is a part of Bitcoin that was recently integrated. The main board being for discussion, and a sub-board for people to promote (or even trade/advertise) their owned Ordinals. NFTs on the other hand are on other blockchains. NFTs do not truly exist on the Bitcoin blockchain, ordinals have just been dubbed as "Bitcoin NFTs" or "NFTs on Bitcoin".

Neither needs a new sub, post about ordinals in Bitcoin discussion section and about rest nfts in altcoin discussion.

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A majority of members suggests it should be on the altcoin board, they seem right, but NFTs are arts and this forum love arts, I've seen lots of art contest in the forum. An NFT board will not only be about talking about NFTs but it'll promote the arts contests in the forum. By opening  more opportunities for users who made quality arts in a contest, yet didn't win. That section will educate artists on ways to turn their arts into NFT and also stand a chance of selling them. The board, in my view, would look like a marketplace for every art including art contest. And also open an avenue for NFT investors to feel welcomed in the forum. If everything dwells on the altcoin section, it'll be a hassle for investors to understand or winnow out quality nft threads from other altcoins.

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I think an NFT child board is a good idea although I wouldn't know where to put it.

The vast, vast majority of NFTs are based on altcoin chains (ETH, SOL, MATIC, etc.) but there are a few NFTs on Bitcoin as well:

- Ordinals
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Yes, these are all NFTs, which stands for Non Fungible Token (although Counterparty tokens with greater than 1 supply are technically "fungible" by standard crypto definitions).

Maybe it can get added at the same time the Lightning Network gets a sub-board.

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Have seen several threads requesting for same, in all of them there was answer that nft threads can be posted in altcoin discussion and thus ends the discussion.

There should be a forum for Bitcoin Ordinals as this is a part of Bitcoin that was recently integrated. The main board being for discussion, and a sub-board for people to promote (or even trade/advertise) their owned Ordinals. NFTs on the other hand are on other blockchains. NFTs do not truly exist on the Bitcoin blockchain, ordinals have just been dubbed as "Bitcoin NFTs" or "NFTs on Bitcoin".

Neither needs a new sub, post about ordinals in Bitcoin discussion section and about rest nfts in altcoin discussion.

Then they are valid requests.

NFT threads that are not Ordinals on the Bitcoin blockchain being posted in Altcoin discussion is not actually discussion. People who have created art, music, etc. should have a place where they can post their NFTs, away from discussion.

Discussion about ordinals should be within its own board because this is a feature that is integrated into Bitcoin. Just like Lightning network should have its own board, and so should Taproot.

Bitcoin ordinals are not the same as NFTs nor are they altcoins. So Bitcoin ordinals should not (in my opinion) be posted in the altcoin discussion section, just as NFTs shouldn't either.

...though if people disagree and think that NFTs and Ordinals are not only the same as each other but are the same as altcoins (wrong) then so be it.

I think an NFT child board is a good idea although I wouldn't know where to put it.

The vast, vast majority of NFTs are based on altcoin chains (ETH, SOL, MATIC, etc.) but there are a few NFTs on Bitcoin as well:

- Ordinals
- Counterparty
- Stacks

Yes, these are all NFTs, which stands for Non Fungible Token (although Counterparty tokens with greater than 1 supply are technically "fungible" by standard crypto definitions).

Maybe it can get added at the same time the Lightning Network gets a sub-board.

Since ERC-20/same standard tokens on other evm chains and other token-related projects go in the Altcoin Announcements forum, it would be fitting for Non-ordinal NFTs should go as a child-board in the to have their own section as well for personal collections, nft projects, etc. 

To follow the theme of separating Bitcoin blockchain from altcoins/other blockchains, Ordinals would have their own section. Since they are technically a product, an Ordinals board in the Marketplace might be appropriate, where the main board allows people to post their Ordinals while a sub-board called Ordinal Discussion allows people to talk about the technology itself (just as Service Announcements and Service Discussion are boards themselves).

Or, merge the two ideas together and make the board under Altcoin Announcements "Ordinals and NFTs". However, this would limit that board to people posting their project/nft/ordinal and might get cluttered if discussion is allowed too. To solve this, an idea is to put Ordinals, Lightning Network and Taproot as child boards under Development and Technical discussion.

This way you have discussion about the technology themselves in one place, and people promoting their projects/personal nfts in another place.

These are just ideas and there's probably a better way to go about it. One thing is for sure, these are features of Bitcoin and they should have their own place of discussion + place of promotion for those who are creating Ordinals.
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Discussion about ordinals should be within its own board because this is a feature that is integrated into Bitcoin. Just like Lightning network should have its own board, and so should Taproot.

I don't think so tbh. All these can be posted in Bitcoin discussion, they aren't having that much posting that they should be having separate board for them.

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Discussion about ordinals should be within its own board because this is a feature that is integrated into Bitcoin. Just like Lightning network should have its own board, and so should Taproot.

I don't think so tbh. All these can be posted in Bitcoin discussion, they aren't having that much posting that they should be having separate board for them.

So if hundreds of artists began to post their Ordinals in the Bitcoin Discussion, that would be okay? I don't believe that it would be. In fact, I think moderators would have a field day deleting the topics. The reason why there has not been much posting is because there is no section for them. If there was, I am sure the section would be embraced. Ordinals are not just important for art/graphics, but also more valuable creations such as music.

On the note of there not being enough posting, there is not much posting in boards like Armory, Mycelium or BitcoinJ either. However, these wallets were all some of the first Bitcoin wallet solutions and therefore have their own board.

I believe that boards need restructuring as a whole. The more that I see suggestions and the more I browse the forum, the more I believe that the forum could be sparked with brand new kinds of discussion if boards were to be reorganized.
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Personally, I am not against it but there are several platforms already that are discussing NFTs such as telegram and discord or even twitter. In most cases, it is not important to have discussion in NFTs since they have their alternate coins in which they already have a specific section on this thread, but most of the time they it is a lot popular on social media platforms like facebook so I don't think that is something we need to think hard about. One more thing is that you can also have local discussion on your own local threads regarding popular NFTs on your countries in which you will be probably interested.

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In 2021 Logan Paul bought a NFT for $623,000 that is now only worth $10<snip>
Uh huh, yep, got it.  What does any of that have to do with what OP is talking about?

If FP91G weren't a Hero Member, I'd swear his post was AI-generated or something--and his rank doesn't even convince me 100%.

Anyway.  NFTs and the interest in them are dying off from what I hear, though I still keep seeing them mentioned everywhere.  But even if they remained hot, I seriously doubt Theymos would create a new section for them.  Maybe he would, but this has been proposed before (at least a few months ago) and so far he's shown no inclination to do so.  If it's interfering with general discussion in the altcoin section, maybe that's a valid argument, but every section and sub-section dealing with shitcoins is full of shitposts anyway.  There would be very little benefit IMO.

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Anyway.  NFTs and the interest in them are dying off from what I hear, though I still keep seeing them mentioned everywhere.  But even if they remained hot, I seriously doubt Theymos would create a new section for them.  Maybe he would, but this has been proposed before (at least a few months ago) and so far he's shown no inclination to do so.  If it's interfering with general discussion in the altcoin section, maybe that's a valid argument, but every section and sub-section dealing with shitcoins is full of shitposts anyway.  There would be very little benefit IMO.

Small correction here - the hype is what's dying off. Meaning less junk is going for ludicrous amounts. Soon, all of that should come to an end (thankfully). The use-case isn't dying off though, it's finding itself. I recently made a post explaining how music is a use-case that is and will likely continue to flourish for NFTs in the future. While right now it seems like an NFT section would be full of seeming garbage, in the future it might very well be a place full of true art, where creative people are sharing truly beautiful creations - whether that be art, music or anything that can be expressed via an Ordinals inscription of an NFT on another blockchain.
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So if hundreds of artists began to post their Ordinals in the Bitcoin Discussion, that would be okay? I don't believe that it would be. In fact, I think moderators would have a field day deleting the topics. The reason why there has not been much posting is because there is no section for them. If there was, I am sure the section would be embraced. Ordinals are not just important for art/graphics, but also more valuable creations such as music.

I disagree. If there is no section, one can always post his topic in most relevant section, which is Bitcoin discussion for ordinals. If there is lot of interest found for particular subject, then one may think about having separate section.


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Is it because NFT has been a trend, then Bitcointalk needs a place that specifically discusses NFT issues? I don't think so. Because another trend will replace the old trend, and that will make the NFT section will definitely lose interest and eventually go to waste.
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Discussion about ordinals should be within its own board because this is a feature that is integrated into Bitcoin. Just like Lightning network should have its own board, and so should Taproot.

I don't think so tbh. All these can be posted in Bitcoin discussion, they aren't having that much posting that they should be having separate board for them.

There are topics that have a multi facets applicable boards where they can best fit in, take a look at the bitcoin ordinals itself, ordinals talks about NFT attached in form of clip arts on bitcoin transactions, then you can choose to bring in this discussion matter on both the altcoins discussion board and the bitcoin discussion board, but we can also decided on the aspect we want to lay much emphasis on while treating this topic which will bow determines the board to post such.

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