Heads up on this user

[lucifur]

Hi everyone, a few days ago he made a post here asking for someone to do a data entry job and he also had one before about designing images.

He agreed on making a deal but after asking for atleast an escrow or a downpayment he no longer respond to my message.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3544144

There is no money involved yet but I just want to put this as a warning incase he makes another post here asking for help. Atleast a decent guy will reply that he no longer need someone for the job instead of ghosting.

[_act_]

Anyone can come on this forum that needs someone's service in return for money. What I am saying is that you supposed to add the person's username so that we can all know the person's username.

[FatFork]

Atleast a decent guy will reply that he no longer need someone for the job instead of ghosting.

It doesn't necessarily mean that he is ghosting you. It's possible that he is dealing with some personal issues or just busy with other things.

It's also possible that he may have been suspicious when you asked for a down payment. Given that your reputation on the forum is relatively unknown, it's understandable that some might not feel comfortable trusting you with money upfront without using escrow.

Also, as _act_ has already mentioned, it would be helpful if you could provide the username so that we don't have to guess. 

[hugeblack]

He agreed on making a deal but after asking for atleast an escrow or a downpayment he no longer respond to my message.
There is no money involved yet but I just want to put this as a warning incase he makes another post here asking for help. Atleast a decent guy will reply that he no longer need someone for the job instead of ghosting.

Is this the user @yiskadesign
He's a newbie acc with only 7 posts and no trust history, so don't do any transaction with him unless he uses escrow (if you're both a newbie member) or sends a deposit if you're a trusted member.

If he refuses to do, put a trust warning and you can ask others to do it.

[Solosanz]

Is this the user @yiskadesign

I don't think @OP meant this user, but it's high likely loabiti33 because he opened two threads about data entry and design which has been mentioned by @OP above Online data entry jobs and text copy and paste. and Help required in art and designer work.

Since he only making a deal and you're not yet creating a job for him, he's not scam you, but he just unprofessional or unethical. If he was scam someone who previously work with him, that's user should have create a thread to accuse him, but as far as I can see, no one create a scam accusation thread.

[coin-investor]

Is this the user @yiskadesign

I don't think @OP meant this user, but it's high likely loabiti33 because he opened two threads about data entry and design which has been mentioned by @OP above Online data entry jobs and text copy and paste. and Help required in art and designer work.

Since he only making a deal and you're not yet creating a job for him, he's not scam you, but he just unprofessional or unethical. If he was scam someone who previously work with him, that's user should have create a thread to accuse him, but as far as I can see, no one create a scam accusation thread.

Let's hear it from the horse's mouth about who he is talking about, he should put a name on his post because it cast doubts on all who offer similar services, no scam has been committed but we should not wait for that to happen and just warn members to never transact without an escrow, and the seller should be obligated to offer an escrow to protect the buyers.
If he chooses not and his service thread is moderated then a neutral will warn his potential clients.

[lucifur]

Anyone can come on this forum that needs someone's service in return for money. What I am saying is that you supposed to add the person's username so that we can all know the person's username.

Sorry , I forgot to add the profile link. I added it.

Also as I mentioned. No money was involved but his actions was unethical and something that should be avoided.

[LoyceV]

I just want to put this as a warning incase he makes another post here asking for help.

Everyone in their right mind should know by now that dealing with a Newbie with no forum history is a risk.

It doesn't necessarily mean that he is ghosting you. It's possible that he is dealing with some personal issues or just busy with other things.

Or he's limited by the 2 PMs a Newbie can send per day.

[lucifur]

I just want to put this as a warning incase he makes another post here asking for help.

Everyone in their right mind should know by now that dealing with a Newbie with no forum history is a risk.

It doesn't necessarily mean that he is ghosting you. It's possible that he is dealing with some personal issues or just busy with other things.

Or he's limited by the 2 PMs a Newbie can send per day.

Yes. I understand this. I just thought maybe I can get a gig to get some funds so I messaged him anyway.

The conversation we had was on telegram so there is no reason he can't reply.

[CryptSafe]

I just want to put this as a warning incase he makes another post here asking for help.

Everyone in their right mind should know by now that dealing with a Newbie with no forum history is a risk.

It doesn't necessarily mean that he is ghosting you. It's possible that he is dealing with some personal issues or just busy with other things.

Or he's limited by the 2 PMs a Newbie can send per day.

Yes. I understand this. I just thought maybe I can get a gig to get some funds so I messaged him anyway.

The conversation we had was on telegram so there is no reason he can't reply.

I will advise you to seek for an escrow if next time you want to have a deal with someone here. Do well to seek the expertise of a reputable member here so that you will be protected. As I see you are a new bie and the other too is a new bie. Here, there is actually every tendencies that most of these newbies account are scammers looking for unsuspecting participants to get away with. So in your on best interest, do well to do the needful and protect yourself.
Lastly, get evidence of your conversations and transactions to back you up.

[Stalker22]

I will advise you to seek for an escrow if next time you want to have a deal with someone here. Do well to seek the expertise of a reputable member here so that you will be protected. As I see you are a new bie and the other too is a new bie. Here, there is actually every tendencies that most of these newbies account are scammers looking for unsuspecting participants to get away with. So in your on best interest, do well to do the needful and protect yourself.

I get it that dealing with a newbie with no forum history is a risk, but it is not fair to generalize. There are some trustworthy newbies out there who are just trying to get started. However, I agree that it is a good idea to seek an reputable escrow if you want to have a safe deal with someone here.

Lastly, get evidence of your conversations and transactions to back you up.

The OP mentioned that there is no money involved, so there are no transactions.

[virasog]

I get it that dealing with a newbie with no forum history is a risk, but it is not fair to generalize. There are some trustworthy newbies out there who are just trying to get started. However, I agree that it is a good idea to seek an reputable escrow if you want to have a safe deal with someone here.

How can a Newbie be trustworthy unless he has done previous transactions and have good feedback? It's better to hire a escrow to safeguard the interest of both the parties involved.

The OP mentioned that there is no money involved, so there are no transactions.

How can you say that there was no money involved. He was looking for help in design and artwork and in return for sure he would pay the money. Now if anyone help him in his work and he goes away without making payment, the person who worked for him won't get his money and hence his time and effort will be wasted.

[Solosanz]

How can a Newbie be trustworthy unless he has done previous transactions and have good feedback? It's better to hire a escrow to safeguard the interest of both the parties involved.

I think he meant about a honest person who has a newbie account rank in this forum, of course escrow is a must when the user has no reputation, but as you said it could be trusted when he already had done multiple successful transactions. However each user has their own preference to judge the trustworthiness, just like a person think $50 is big, while the others think it's small.

How can you say that there was no money involved. He was looking for help in design and artwork and in return for sure he would pay the money. Now if anyone help him in his work and he goes away without making payment, the person who worked for him won't get his money and hence his time and effort will be wasted.

As I said previously, if he has scammed anyone, there's should be a scam accusation created against him.

loabiti33 haven't ask @OP to create anything and he not promise anything to pay, @OP is put a big hope for loabiti33 to reply his message. If I were loabiti33, he might already find someone and don't want to reply the others because it's wasting time for him.

Also as I mentioned. No money was involved but his actions was unethical and something that should be avoided.

All you can do is leaving him a neutral feedback, nothing more.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

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When i also checked on your profile trust, it seems you have also been suspected to have participated in promoting a design for a scam campaign before, but am not using that as against you, but we all should be careful of what we give and take because it tells more about us in many ways even in our absent, because some may choose not to believe you on this base on your own feedback left on you as well.

[elevates]

He might not be aware of the escrow culture or he might not be interested in going ahead with escrow. Unless he has scammed someone I think it is pointless to raise a topic and suspect him. If you are not comfortable working with him then leave the discussion rather than pointing fingers.

There have been recruitment for community management jobs on the Service board. I never seen anyone asking them to have an escrow account. This thread doesn't make any sense to me as you can't force someone who is giving you a job to necessarily have an escrow account before the recruiter hires someone.

[mindrust]

Hi everyone, a few days ago he made a post here asking for someone to do a data entry job and he also had one before about designing images.

He agreed on making a deal but after asking for atleast an escrow or a downpayment he no longer respond to my message.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3544144

There is no money involved yet but I just want to put this as a warning incase he makes another post here asking for help. Atleast a decent guy will reply that he no longer need someone for the job instead of ghosting.

I don't see a problem here. What do you want from us? Distrust him, tag him or flag him just because he stopped responding? Ghosting is not a crime. It is not ethical but being not ethical isn't a crime too. If you need a service you can create a topic and give out the details. You can state there that you won't do any business unless each party agrees to use an escrow. That way you will guarantee that you will only be getting applications from those who accept your terms.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

To be honest with you all, I won't judge this guy, simply because this is something I've done before when I was still pretty new on this forum, and trust me, I had no evil intentions of any kind, it just happens that, sometimes, I wil feel like i need this to be done, and need some one to do it for me, I will come on the forum to post about needing such a service, and immediately I find someone who's interested in doing the job, I will start feeling like I don't need that service yet, mostly due to other expenditures, and my type of person don't know how to tell clients to forget about providing the service I requested for, that I am no longer interested, I just go quiet..

So probably, this user is my type of person, what I would advice is, never you take any potential job or service serious, until the person or user interest in the job or service pays for it, this will save you alot of heart breaks and disappointments.

[Stalker22]

I get it that dealing with a newbie with no forum history is a risk, but it is not fair to generalize. There are some trustworthy newbies out there who are just trying to get started. However, I agree that it is a good idea to seek an reputable escrow if you want to have a safe deal with someone here.

How can a Newbie be trustworthy unless he has done previous transactions and have good feedback? It's better to hire a escrow to safeguard the interest of both the parties involved.

A newbie is any person who has registered on this forum, but it does not necessarily mean that she or he has no reputation at all. They may have expertise in other areas or forums, but are just starting to learn about the particular topic in this forum. This should be approached on a case-by-case basis, that is why I said not to generalize.

The OP mentioned that there is no money involved, so there are no transactions.

How can you say that there was no money involved.
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I was responding to the member who suggested that the OP should publish evidence of the transactions.

[Awaklara]

OP, right now the best option for you is to ignore the account. So you won't get them anymore. besides with history posts, there won't be many members who trust and want to do business with him. so you don't need to worry. but thanks for sharing your experience. it would be a concern for anyone to be careful if they wish to work with or do business with anyone on the forum.

[CryptSafe]

OP, right now the best option for you is to ignore the account. So you won't get them anymore. besides with history posts, there won't be many members who trust and want to do business with him. so you don't need to worry. but thanks for sharing your experience. it would be a concern for anyone to be careful if they wish to work with or do business with anyone on the forum.

It is better ignoring the account as you have suggested to OP but I do not think it would be easy to forget about the experience though but I am ok with the way OP had to bring it to the notice of members of this platform to letting them know what is obtainable when dealing with that account so as to be extra cautious and careful if they choose to deal with the account.

What if the account holder decides to abandon  that account and creates another to continue with his or her trickish activities with this account that has already been exposed by OP do you think it would be easy to identify him?