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April 28, 2023, 12:08:39 PM
Last edit: February 12, 2024, 12:02:06 AM by TGW
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Giving out Vouches to Highly Reputable Members

Why BetSteps365?
Experience the thrill of winning over 70% of your bets with BetSteps365, a Discord-based sports betting prediction provider. Boost your profits with our transparent and performance-tracked service, currently achieving a +15.53% ROI with 7938€ clear profit. New to betting? No problem, we're committed to helping you grow. Reap the benefits of in-depth sports betting signals. We also guarantee your subscription doesn't expire until your balance grows. Inspired by transparency, we hand out vouches to senior forum members to validate our service. Join our winning team today!

What is this, and how does it work?
Answer: It's a sports betting service with several positive Reviews since the beginning. Our main focus is VIP Signals x10 in which we are posting pictures of our betslips and then you have to copy our pick into your betslip. This is very easy to execute. Our goal is to win 10 bets in a row. If we lose somewhere in between, we are trying from the beginning. We offer help to complete newbies too.

What amount should i invest and how much should i bet per betslip?
Answer: There are a few plans that you can follow with our service. You can find some of them below.

Plan 1: Recommended deposit: 2500€ and you bet 3% per Step 1 (75€)
Plan 2: Medium deposit: 1000€ and you bet 3% per Step 1 (30€)
Plan 3: Low deposit: 400€ and you bet 5% per Step 1 (20€)

Profit ranges:
Plan 1: Possible profit range, between 2170€ to 4325€ minus Step 1 retries * 75€
Plan 2: Possible profit range, between 868€ to 1730€ minus Step 1 retries * 30€
Plan 3: Possible profit range, between 579€ to 1153€ minus Step 1 retries * 20€

How many VIP Signals x10 are you posting per week?
Answer: The average number of VIP Signals per week depends on the football competitions schedule. It's not a fixed number of bets per week. You can check the VIP Signals x10 spreadsheet to find the frequency of our bets.

How can I contact you for more details?
Answer: The best place to contact us is Discord. You can find TGW with the following nickname (TGW#4328) on Discord.

Are your predictions 100% sure or fixed?
Answer: Our predictions, as per the definition of the word "prediction", are just hypotheses about future events and come from humans. Results are, therefore, not 100% guaranteed to be correct every day. We are not magicians, and we do not have any "black information" about the events we are posting. By spectating, studying, analyzing, and using our instincts, we are trying to lead you to the correct betting decision. You are forced to use our bankroll management. In any other case, you are responsible for any outcomes, good or bad. In most cases, not following good bankroll management will result in a bad outcome. From 2018 until now, we have done very well, as our funds have remained positive since day 1, so we hope to continue.

VIP Signals x10 Bets
122 WON
46 LOST
Winratio: 72.62%
Current clear profit: +7938€ (+15.53% ROI)
 
The 1€ Challenge Bets
173 WON
169 LOST
Winratio: 50.58%
Current clear profit: +455€ (+26.02% ROI)

All stats updated on: 12/02/2024

VIP Signals x10 Spreadsheet
https://app.bet-analytix.com/bankroll/494446

The 1€ Challenge Spreadsheet
https://app.bet-analytix.com/bankroll/416541

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April 28, 2023, 12:14:47 PM
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I went through the "All Time Vouches" and the screenshots are from August of 2018. It's April of 2023, it's 5 years.
Do they even count as vouches anymore? I don't think so.

There is a vouch from rdbase in these images, not even sure if he really vouched for your service or you just stole it from any other service.
Also, buy a domain it only costs $10. weebly makes your website look cheap and a rug.
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I went through the "All Time Vouches" and the screenshots are from August of 2018. It's April of 2023, it's 5 years.
Do they even count as vouches anymore? I don't think so.

There is a vouch from rdbase in these images, not even sure if he really vouched for your service or you just stole it from any other service.
Also, buy a domain it only costs $10. weebly makes your website look cheap and a rug.

We went through a big pause with no bets due to COVID.
That's why we have no new vouches, the service is revamped, and I am looking for highly reputable members to give out vouches.

Rdbase Vouch is actually real. BetSteps was named SharkTips before the name change.

True, we are thinking about a domain name, and we will change that as soon as possible.
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April 28, 2023, 05:43:31 PM
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VIP Signals x10 Spreadsheet
https://app.bet-analytix.com/bankroll/494446

BetSteps FAQ
https://betsteps365.weebly.com/must-read.html

Join our Discord
https://discord.gg/wNBEVN8

Website
https://betsteps365.weebly.com/

All time Vouches
https://imgur.com/a/krmsTDU

How do you guarantee us of all these posts you have made here?

Do you not have portfolio so we could see for ourselves?


Is there any one who can vouch for you?

No proper introduction of your products and services.

Lastly, your account is a newbie account more reasons one needs to be extremely cautious about your engagements and activities.

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April 29, 2023, 02:14:46 PM
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VIP Signals x10 Spreadsheet
https://app.bet-analytix.com/bankroll/494446

BetSteps FAQ
https://betsteps365.weebly.com/must-read.html

Join our Discord
https://discord.gg/wNBEVN8

Website
https://betsteps365.weebly.com/

All time Vouches
https://imgur.com/a/krmsTDU

How do you guarantee us of all these posts you have made here?

Do you not have portfolio so we could see for ourselves?


Is there any one who can vouch for you?

No proper introduction of your products and services.

Lastly, your account is a newbie account more reasons one needs to be extremely cautious about your engagements and activities.

Is there any one who can vouch for you?
I am looking for a highly reputable member to give a vouch since our last bitcointalk vouch is very old.

No proper introduction of your products and services.
I used a paragraph from our site in the post for anyone who wonders what this is to read.

How do you guarantee us of all these posts you have made here? Do you not have portfolio so we could see for ourselves?
A Bet-Analytix spreadsheet is posted in the thread. In our Discord, you can find previous bet slips that are publicly available. Portfolio tracking is done by Bet-Analytix. The service has been running since 2018 on Discord. Never banned. My Discord never got banned either, all these years. My main profile on another big forum, from which BetSteps (old SharkTips) started, is 7+ years old. You can find that on Discord too. The fact that my profile on Bitcointalk is newbie doesn't automatically mean that I am trying to scam anyone here. I already asked for a highly reputable member to come test our service's legitimacy. Big players with years of service can scam too. A newbie's profile doesn't automatically mean something in this case. Things are very transparent and well explained on our site.
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April 29, 2023, 06:08:08 PM
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hi TGW , I am available to evaluate and leave a review of your service.
I have made this work for several similar services...tell me what I have to do to participate/make this review.

About my experience...
I have been managing a topic on the forum for many years where I provide advice and only free predictions (8+ years!)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1234109.0
I reached the 2nd place in the DirectBet competitions hall of fame (I won at least one prize in all editions...)

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April 29, 2023, 10:56:45 PM
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hi TGW , I am available to evaluate and leave a review of your service.
I have made this work for several similar services...tell me what I have to do to participate/make this review.

About my experience...
I have been managing a topic on the forum for many years where I provide advice and only free predictions (8+ years!)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1234109.0
I reached the 2nd place in the DirectBet competitions hall of fame (I won at least one prize in all editions...)


Enter our Discord and send me a message. TGW#4328 is my profile on Discord. Discord member since 08 October 2017.
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April 29, 2023, 11:38:26 PM
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hi TGW , I am available to evaluate and leave a review of your service.
I have made this work for several similar services...tell me what I have to do to participate/make this review.

About my experience...
I have been managing a topic on the forum for many years where I provide advice and only free predictions (8+ years!)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1234109.0
I reached the 2nd place in the DirectBet competitions hall of fame (I won at least one prize in all editions...)


Enter our Discord and send me a message. TGW#4328 is my profile on Discord. Discord member since 08 October 2017.

I know you are fairly new around here, but usually people feel more comfortable when parties deal here on the forum instead taking the conversations to Telegram or Discord, because the stunning amount of scams that occur in those platforms.
You could even message people with the forum system of direct messages, just for the sake of transparency.

That is one of the reasons people only negotiate loans in-forum and not on outside chats. Since the parties theoretically do not have anything to hide.  Roll Eyes

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hi TGW , I am available to evaluate and leave a review of your service.
I have made this work for several similar services...tell me what I have to do to participate/make this review.

About my experience...
I have been managing a topic on the forum for many years where I provide advice and only free predictions (8+ years!)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1234109.0
I reached the 2nd place in the DirectBet competitions hall of fame (I won at least one prize in all editions...)


Enter our Discord and send me a message. TGW#4328 is my profile on Discord. Discord member since 08 October 2017.

I know you are fairly new around here, but usually people feel more comfortable when parties deal here on the forum instead taking the conversations to Telegram or Discord, because the stunning amount of scams that occur in those platforms.
You could even message people with the forum system of direct messages, just for the sake of transparency.

That is one of the reasons people only negotiate loans in-forum and not on outside chats. Since the parties theoretically do not have anything to hide.  Roll Eyes

I just need to know his Discord username, and then I will upgrade his Discord profile to VIP. This way, he will be able to see every new bet slip we post on our Discord. He can message me wherever he wants. That's not a problem. His Discord nickname is what I need to provide the vouch. I'm still looking for highly reputable members. Whoever wants a vouch, I can provide one.
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BetSteps365 current stats with the compound interest method on our bets. We started our VIP Signals x10 on January 2021.
Our fixed starting stake to achieve x10 consecutive wins was always 75€ (3% of our starting capital).

Starting capital: 2500€
Current capital: 7748.73€

Number of bets: 130

Profit: +5248.73€
ROI: +13.23%
Progression: +209.95%

Winning bets: 93
Losing bets: 37

Success Rate: 71.54%
Average Odds: 1.49

Played stakes: 39671.24€
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High reputable user will not gonna waste time vouching service that they can guarantee the safety for long term. You might be giving an accurate prediction and good service for now but you can always be on hiatus like during Covid-19 any moment that will put their reputation in danger.

Why not giving free tips on the community for a week or month and let the community decides if you are offering an accurate prediction. Many can vouch for you with this method because many user become witness on your prediction.

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April 30, 2023, 05:29:31 PM
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hi TGW , I am available to evaluate and leave a review of your service.
I have made this work for several similar services...tell me what I have to do to participate/make this review.

About my experience...
I have been managing a topic on the forum for many years where I provide advice and only free predictions (8+ years!)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1234109.0
I reached the 2nd place in the DirectBet competitions hall of fame (I won at least one prize in all editions...)


Enter our Discord and send me a message. TGW#4328 is my profile on Discord. Discord member since 08 October 2017.

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High reputable user will not gonna waste time vouching service that they can guarantee the safety for long term. You might be giving an accurate prediction and good service for now but you can always be on hiatus like during Covid-19 any moment that will put their reputation in danger.

Why not giving free tips on the community for a week or month and let the community decides if you are offering an accurate prediction. Many can vouch for you with this method because many user become witness on your prediction.

from mine previous "experience" I can guarantee that legitimate services or scams are recognized literally after few bets.
you don't need anything more to understand that.

"Mathematical" explanation, you can guess a bet at a certain odd, but it is much more complicated to guess them in series, and it is even more difficult to be able to give legitimate explanations of the won/wrong bets...

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April 30, 2023, 09:19:14 PM
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Why not giving free tips on the community for a week or month and let the community decides if you are offering an accurate prediction. Many can vouch for you with this method because many user become witness on your prediction.

The most common explanation you may get from services alike this one is that they do not want to reveal themselves to a wide audience or something like that. It could hurt their "business" eventually, assuming this is a "legitimate" one.

Free accurate tips would be the same that free money and that is not a profitable model. I would still advice anyone to be careful when dealing with tip providers and similar to those, for obvious reasons. There are way too many people who pretend to be gurus on internet.



hi TGW , I am available to evaluate and leave a review of your service.
I have made this work for several similar services...tell me what I have to do to participate/make this review.

About my experience...
I have been managing a topic on the forum for many years where I provide advice and only free predictions (8+ years!)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1234109.0
I reached the 2nd place in the DirectBet competitions hall of fame (I won at least one prize in all editions...)


Enter our Discord and send me a message. TGW#4328 is my profile on Discord. Discord member since 08 October 2017.

I have sent just now a request of connection/DM. Let me know ...

High reputable user will not gonna waste time vouching service that they can guarantee the safety for long term. You might be giving an accurate prediction and good service for now but you can always be on hiatus like during Covid-19 any moment that will put their reputation in danger.

Why not giving free tips on the community for a week or month and let the community decides if you are offering an accurate prediction. Many can vouch for you with this method because many user become witness on your prediction.
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"Mathematical" explanation, you can guess a bet at a certain odd, but it is much more complicated to guess them in series, and it is even more difficult to be able to give legitimate explanations of the won/wrong bets...

A scammer would not need to if they have enough groups so they can provide different/opposite tips to different groups until convincing those in the most accurate "group" to give them money for further tips, which soon would start fail.

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A scammer would not need to if they have enough groups so they can provide different/opposite tips to different groups until convincing those in the most accurate "group" to give them money for further tips, which soon would start fail.

No it's something impossible (literally) to do. because we are talking about something made several times and not only 1 time....
Likewise, if you are making a guess and you have two option (like with Tennis)... let's make some practical examples:
50 groups have option A // 50 groups have option B
After first match only 1 option is a win... so we have just 50 groups able to play... and so on ... it means that after 4 matches... you have just a couple of groups with ALL wins... after 6 matches Smiley it ends with all groups have posted a loss ...
it is not easy to explain on a forum (also not in first language Smiley ).
but in general those who do not have a certain constancy can be seen immediately and not even a scammer can simulate this kind of results (of course if results are tracked and not created/simulated)

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April 30, 2023, 11:52:54 PM
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for better transparency I advise you to put the criteria for the members that you will vouch for, for example you can put it like this:

I need 10 trusted forum members who are active in the gambling section and I will give them 5 tips with odds of @1.55 for example, then you tip those 10 members and when the games you tipped are over then those members will post in this thread how many games you got right and how many games you missed, how many high and low odds games you got right and we'll all do math on how much profit each person you vouched had, with that we'll be able to see how far your skills and it will be easier to determine if your service is profitable or not

I think if you're honest then everything has to be discussed in this thread, what's the point of creating this thread if you don't want to discuss all the details here? this weekend there were a lot of games, why don't you keep posting some free predictions, even if it's just one prediction per day, this will make it easier for us to see your skills better and we will judge whether or not it is profitable to use your service, I think it costs you nothing doing this, the best way to make people believe in you is to show them proof of what you are capable of doing, everyone has theory, but showing practical proof not everyone can do it

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Last edit: March 25, 2024, 01:26:25 PM by bitbollo
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hi TGW , I am available to evaluate and leave a review of your service.
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Hi everyone,
I have made a quick check of this service. I get access to their discord VIP.
And I have verified bet posted here https://app.bet-analytix.com/bankroll/494446 (Downloaded and edited from CSV)
Following OP rules posted in FAQ I have counted bets win/loss with a fix amount played 75 USD (it's like a median value of 3% of stake to be played).
With this rule in 23 months he has realized ---> 798 USD as net profit = 34 USD per month.
He informed me that 3 subscriptions of 49 euros (about 165 USD) were required during these 23 months.
Subtracted from the total we reach a profit of 633 USD which becomes = 27 USD of net profits in a month.

As you can see from his stats he plays very often odds at 1.40 (71.4% probability of winning)
From the total played he achieves about 14% (real odds 1.14) so no "magic", he gets "decent" results for a bettor, in line with the chances of winning.

Now, we don't know if this percentage will be maintained in the future or if he will cheat with his service.
Or he is able to make bigger winnings. These are the numbers he provided and this is my analysis of previous bets.

Feel free to ask me for other details, I'm not expressing an opinion on the service itself but I'm reporting the data that I was able to analyze.

edit: Total number of subscriptions needed in 3 years was 5 so 5 * 50$ = 250$

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Last edit: June 22, 2023, 11:47:33 AM by TGW
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Vouches are still available for members that want to verify the legitimacy of our service. We just updated our VIP Signals x10 with a new bet.

Current win streak is 21 victories while we just won our 1€ Challenge again with 408 odd won (170 WON BETS - 167 LOST BETS - 457 UNITS PROFIT - 26.29% ROI)

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Vouches are still available for members that want to verify the legitimacy of our service. We just updated our VIP Signals x10 with a new bet.

Current win streak is 21 victories while we just won our 1€ Challenge again with 408 odd won (170 WON BETS - 167 LOST BETS - 457 UNITS PROFIT - 26.29% ROI)

The 1€ Challenge Spreadsheet check https://app.bet-analytix.com/bankroll/416541 + https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/425ecBwVIXJI.png?o=1

We just won again. 22 consecutive wins for VIP Signals x10. You can check our latest signals below by copying the whole link into your browser

https://www.nulled.to/topic/1405847-betsteps365-thousands-€-profit-current-roi-1472-sports-betting-signals-start-making-money-with-us/?p=43023549
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Join our VIP program today to enjoy profits like these

VIP Signals x10 Current Profit: +6128€ (+14.72% ROI)
The 1€ VIP Challenge Current Profit: +457€ (+26.29% ROI)
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The leagues for the 2022-23 season have stopped and so we are now looking at the start dates of the new leagues for the upcoming 2023-24 season.

Most of you will wonder, when will we have more VIP Signals per week? I will post below the leagues that we aim for for our VIP x10 Signals so that you get an idea of when we will have more VIP Signals per week. We currently have Argentina Liga Profesional and Brazil Serie A for VIP Signals x10 but we are waiting for these leagues to start too.

🇨🇿 Czech Republic Fortuna Liga ⚽ 22/7
🇨🇭 Switzerland Super League ⚽ 22/7
🇩🇰 Denmark Superliga ⚽ 22/7
🇦🇹 Austria Bundesliga ⚽ 28/7
🇧🇪 Belgium Pro League ⚽ 29/7
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England Championship ⚽ 5/8
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Scottish Premier ⚽ 5/8
🇳🇱 Netherlands Eredivisie ⚽ 11/8
🇵🇹 Portugal Primeira Liga ⚽ 11/8
🇹🇷 Turkey Super Lig ⚽ 11/8
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England Premier League ⚽ 11/8
🇪🇸 Spain LaLiga ⚽ 12/8
🇫🇷 France Ligue 1 ⚽ 12/8
🇬🇷 Greece Super League ⚽ 18/8
🇩🇪 Germany Bundesliga ⚽ 18/8
🇮🇹 Italy Serie A ⚽ 20/8
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With 96 won and 37 lost bets we managed to have +14.72% ROI and +6128€ profit on our
VIP Signals while on our 1€ Challenge we managed to have +26.29% ROI and +457 euros or units profit with 170 won and 167 lost bets

All that for the great price of 49.99€ per investment rise

We are more than ready for the new season
 
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A very simple question though, how are you making these profits, who is the expertise behind this. If you are anyways making so much profit in a day and everyday then why is the necessity of providing such service to others? Just to make more money out of it? I never understood the assignment where peeps has money making strategy, they show how they are making it but later they would go and sell the strategy for more pricy Tag.

I don’t know, I might be wrong with ideology but honestly you have to got to answer this. It’s impressive how profits are being made everyday and yet this isn’t much popular. I hope you get what you desire from this service if it’s true.
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Does people still use these type of services? I mean these aren’t fixed matches. These are just predictions, and people are risking their money on other people’s predictions. It’s better to do research on your own and bet according to your own will. At least if you face loss, then you will only curse yourself. These type of services, that OP is providing, is often considered as scam, once his customer loses a bet, they will just ignore you or block you. I won’t like to risk my money on other people’s call.

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A very simple question though, how are you making these profits, who is the expertise behind this. If you are anyways making so much profit in a day and everyday then why is the necessity of providing such service to others? Just to make more money out of it? I never understood the assignment where peeps has money making strategy, they show how they are making it but later they would go and sell the strategy for more pricy Tag.

I don’t know, I might be wrong with ideology but honestly you have to got to answer this. It’s impressive how profits are being made everyday and yet this isn’t much popular. I hope you get what you desire from this service if it’s true.

You can check out our BetSteps365 VIP Signals x10 Spreadsheet to see how we managed to hit this ROI. Every bet is there, and the whole system is transparent. That's why I requested a big name from the forum to test our service's legitimacy and provide a review, and we're still looking for more. This service is not for everyone. It's for people who do not see betting as a funny everyday hobby but as an investment, and for those who do not want to bother a lot with researching but find everything ready from another trusted researcher. What do I mean by investment? You all know that if you bet as a player, you want to bet every day and have fun. This is not what we do here. We prefer quality over quantity since we are not "players". We do not act like sick bettors who bet every day on everything. Since January, we have placed only 23 bets on VIP Betting Signals (you can see everything in the VIP Signals Spreadsheet) and 22 of them won. The method that we use is compound interest on our victories. After 10 consecutive winning signals with the compound interest method, the VIP Subscription expires. This is what makes our subscription better, in our opinion, since the subscriber doesn't have to pay a fee per month but pays a fee per service goal completion. If I don't provide what you paid for, there is no need to subscribe again until I do. We do not force anyone to trust their investment in our system, but we trust our numbers, and those who like our numbers in our spreadsheet are more than welcome to copy bet our picks. You can view all my previous statements on our VIP Signals x10 and The 1€ Challenge spreadsheets.

Does people still use these type of services? I mean these aren’t fixed matches. These are just predictions, and people are risking their money on other people’s predictions. It’s better to do research on your own and bet according to your own will. At least if you face loss, then you will only curse yourself. These type of services, that OP is providing, is often considered as scam, once his customer loses a bet, they will just ignore you or block you. I won’t like to risk my money on other people’s call.

True, these are predictions made after research and not fixed matches like we explain in our MUST READ page. If you haven't read already we have this in our Q&A question 7.

Question 7: Are your predictions 100% sure or fixed?
Answer: Our predictions, as per the definition of the word "prediction", are just hypotheses about future events and come from humans. Results are, therefore, not 100% guaranteed to be correct every day. We are not magicians, and we do not have any "black information" about the events we are posting. By spectating, studying, analyzing, and using our instincts, we are trying to lead you to the correct betting decision. You are forced to use our bankroll management. In any other case, you are responsible for any outcomes, good or bad. In most cases, not following good bankroll management will result in a bad outcome. From 2018 until now, we have done very well, as our funds have remained positive since day 1, so we hope to continue.


Some people do not have the patience or the time to do the research and follow a system. That's where we come to provide our services. If they like our numbers, they will start following our method. We have been present since 2018 and have never left our customers after a loss. The service started in another forum in 2018, and our account there is 7 years old, with 0 scam reports.
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If you are anyways making so much profit in a day and everyday then why is the necessity of providing such service to others? Just to make more money out of it? I

I like to see how OP would answer this question.  Smiley

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If you are anyways making so much profit in a day and everyday then why is the necessity of providing such service to others? Just to make more money out of it? I

I like to see how OP would answer this question.  Smiley

There's nothing special here about this question. Have we ever said that we make profits every day? From everything stated on our site (in the must-read page), do you understand that we said that we are making profit every day? No, we are not posting signals every day. This one means that whoever says that has invested no time reading about our project and what we offer and is trying to draw a conclusion without proper research about something that he has never tried out himself or read properly about what it has to offer. In simple words, a malicious low-quality commenter who hasn't done his research before commenting with negativity on a transparent project that keeps spreadsheets and gives exact betting directions to its clients without posting a salad of predictions with no directions and proper tracking and calling it a worthy VIP betting service. Whoever still doesn't understand how our project and method work after every piece of information we provided here, and still spreads negative comments is probably a suspicious betting charlatan. We know what we are doing, we know our job well, that's why we are not scared of calling an admin to try out our service.

so98nn answers his own question there. To make more money out of something that is working for us. Where is the incomprehensible in that? It's that simple. We found something that is working for us, we are making our extras out of it, and since we are investing our time in it, if someone wants to follow our research and copy us, he has to pay a small fee until we hit our goal, not per month like most services. Since we respect our customers cash, we are not letting them re-subscribe before we provide what we promised. We are not gifting the time that we spend on research, that's why we have the fee. When we first started we had a symbolic fee of 5€ per month and some months were completely FREE but now we cannot give such ROIs for 5€.
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if someone wants to follow our research and copy us, he has to pay a small fee until we hit our goal, not per month like most services. Since we respect our customers cash, we are not letting them re-subscribe before we provide what we promised. We are not gifting the time that we spend on research, that's why we have the fee. When we first started we had a symbolic fee of 5€ per month and some months were completely FREE but now we cannot give such ROIs for 5€.

I like the idea. I'm not sure if it's new, but most of the services I believe charge a fixed monthly fee as long as you are subscribed. Well, thanks for explaining it well. I might consider your services once the NBA returns. Good luck

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if someone wants to follow our research and copy us, he has to pay a small fee until we hit our goal, not per month like most services. Since we respect our customers cash, we are not letting them re-subscribe before we provide what we promised. We are not gifting the time that we spend on research, that's why we have the fee. When we first started we had a symbolic fee of 5€ per month and some months were completely FREE but now we cannot give such ROIs for 5€.

I like the idea. I'm not sure if it's new, but most of the services I believe charge a fixed monthly fee as long as you are subscribed. Well, thanks for explaining it well. I might consider your services once the NBA returns. Good luck
I always wonder myself what is the investment for this type of signaling services. In trading if I am good at predicting the market price them why don't I invest whatever money I have and make profit alone. The same in sportsbook or casino games. If I know for sure that In a Liverpool vs City match, City is going to win, then I will put all the money I have instead of teaching or requesting others to place bets and let them make the money.

This signal or tipsters do not make money from the bets they place, in fact I have doubt if they really place bets for themselves, their main business is to make their channel popular and earn from the subscription fees. When the ICO industry was at their top time, then haven't we seen so many signal channels. Eventually every member of their channels lost their money, but the channel owners made all.

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I always wonder myself what is the investment for this type of signaling services. In trading if I am good at predicting the market price them why don't I invest whatever money I have and make profit alone. The same in sportsbook or casino games.

Predicting the stock market is not the same as predicting the outcome of a future sporting event. We are not a casino here either.

If I know for sure that In a Liverpool vs City match, City is going to win, then I will put all the money I have instead of teaching or requesting others to place bets and let them make the money.

We never stated that we knew for sure what would happen to our signals. These are predictions. You probably have not read our Q&A. Meanwhile, you are commenting here. We have a system that we follow and a bank roll policy. We would never invest all our money in anything. You are probably another commenter who reads nothing about the project but expresses his negative general opinion on our project board. Please take the time to read about our project before making a comment on it. This makes you look totally unread and out of place. This is a project board and not a general discussion board. You are scaring people on the wrong thread.


This signal or tipsters do not make money from the bets they place, in fact I have doubt if they really place bets for themselves, their main business is to make their channel popular and earn from the subscription fees. When the ICO industry was at their top time, then haven't we seen so many signal channels. Eventually every member of their channels lost their money, but the channel owners made all.

We are sharing our bet slips with photos, and below the bet we are writing a reason why we picked the exact match and why we are betting on it. We give exact directions to our clients. Our system has worked so far, and that's the reason we are not afraid to give a vouch to an admin so he can track our legitimacy by himself. The groups that you are talking about are obvious scam groups.
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I always wonder myself what is the investment for this type of signaling services. In trading if I am good at predicting the market price them why don't I invest whatever money I have and make profit alone. The same in sportsbook or casino games.

Predicting the stock market is not the same as predicting the outcome of a future sporting event. We are not a casino here either.

If I know for sure that In a Liverpool vs City match, City is going to win, then I will put all the money I have instead of teaching or requesting others to place bets and let them make the money.

We never stated that we knew for sure what would happen to our signals. These are predictions. You probably have not read our Q&A. Meanwhile, you are commenting here. We have a system that we follow and a bank roll policy. We would never invest all our money in anything. You are probably another commenter who reads nothing about the project but expresses his negative general opinion on our project board. Please take the time to read about our project before making a comment on it. This makes you look totally unread and out of place. This is a project board and not a general discussion board. You are scaring people on the wrong thread.


This signal or tipsters do not make money from the bets they place, in fact I have doubt if they really place bets for themselves, their main business is to make their channel popular and earn from the subscription fees. When the ICO industry was at their top time, then haven't we seen so many signal channels. Eventually every member of their channels lost their money, but the channel owners made all.

We are sharing our bet slips with photos, and below the bet we are writing a reason why we picked the exact match and why we are betting on it. We give exact directions to our clients. Our system has worked so far, and that's the reason we are not afraid to give a vouch to an admin so he can track our legitimacy by himself. The groups that you are talking about are obvious scam groups.
I think you failed to get my point.
If you know the outcome of an event, then why not you place your bets yourself and make all the money instead of sharing it with a community and reducing the value of the odd. You must know that when many bets are placed in a leg than it starts to lose the value so that the bookie can balance both side of the market.

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I always wonder myself what is the investment for this type of signaling services. In trading if I am good at predicting the market price them why don't I invest whatever money I have and make profit alone. The same in sportsbook or casino games.

Predicting the stock market is not the same as predicting the outcome of a future sporting event. We are not a casino here either.

If I know for sure that In a Liverpool vs City match, City is going to win, then I will put all the money I have instead of teaching or requesting others to place bets and let them make the money.

We never stated that we knew for sure what would happen to our signals. These are predictions. You probably have not read our Q&A. Meanwhile, you are commenting here. We have a system that we follow and a bank roll policy. We would never invest all our money in anything. You are probably another commenter who reads nothing about the project but expresses his negative general opinion on our project board. Please take the time to read about our project before making a comment on it. This makes you look totally unread and out of place. This is a project board and not a general discussion board. You are scaring people on the wrong thread.


This signal or tipsters do not make money from the bets they place, in fact I have doubt if they really place bets for themselves, their main business is to make their channel popular and earn from the subscription fees. When the ICO industry was at their top time, then haven't we seen so many signal channels. Eventually every member of their channels lost their money, but the channel owners made all.

We are sharing our bet slips with photos, and below the bet we are writing a reason why we picked the exact match and why we are betting on it. We give exact directions to our clients. Our system has worked so far, and that's the reason we are not afraid to give a vouch to an admin so he can track our legitimacy by himself. The groups that you are talking about are obvious scam groups.
I think you failed to get my point.
If you know the outcome of an event, then why not you place your bets yourself and make all the money instead of sharing it with a community and reducing the value of the odd. You must know that when many bets are placed in a leg than it starts to lose the value so that the bookie can balance both side of the market.

Simple logic that easy to answer and I guess he just twist your point so that he can answer it on different form. But I guess he know the answer and its easy to understand what is the point of asking for investment while if he's sure or know who's gonna win on that match he could just simply put all of his money and get rich with it. There's no point for this to ask some investment in the community since this make all of this statement so shady.

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Simple logic that easy to answer and I guess he just twist your point so that he can answer it on different form.
He even started to accuse me north and south, right and left.

Probably not read the Q&A
Another commentor who read nothing.
Unread and out of place.
Scaring people in a wrong thread.


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I think you failed to get my point.
If you know the outcome of an event, then why not you place your bets yourself and make all the money instead of sharing it with a community and reducing the value of the odd. You must know that when many bets are placed in a leg than it starts to lose the value so that the bookie can balance both side of the market.

Both of your comments are out of place. How can we already know the outcome of an event? We already said that we were making predictions. Do you know how to read, sir? We even stated that we would never invest all our money in anything. There is no point in your comments other than scaring people out of the project. Maybe you want them to bet and lose their money alone. That's why you are promoting casinos and betting sites in your banners? We are explaining how our project works, and you are telling us that the odd loses value if many people bet on it. There's totally no logic behind your comments here. You even think that we do not know how the odds work. You need revision if you want to be taken seriously.

Simple logic that easy to answer and I guess he just twist your point so that he can answer it on different form. But I guess he know the answer and its easy to understand what is the point of asking for investment while if he's sure or know who's gonna win on that match he could just simply put all of his money and get rich with it. There's no point for this to ask some investment in the community since this make all of this statement so shady.

Another out of place comment here. Are you sure that you are sober? It's obvious from what you said that you spent zero time reading about our project too. Is there a single line where we ever asked people to give us their investments? You are a Vbet promoter and free spins promoter. Another guy who wants people to lose cash at the casino. Meanwhile, commenting with negativity on a transparent project. Sad.
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A great victory for our 1€ Challenge. We just started from the beginning again.
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You are going about this all wrong op. You should first offer your services for free over a certain period of time to a particular set of users and ask them to vouch for you after that time period.

Once you establish your reputation within this forum, you should start offering VIP services to everyone which would attract many interested punters like me.

Abandoning your old site and suddenly restarting it makes you look shady too. Do your research!

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You are going about this all wrong op. You should first offer your services for free over a certain period of time to a particular set of users and ask them to vouch for you after that time period.

Once you establish your reputation within this forum, you should start offering VIP services to everyone which would attract many interested punters like me.

Alright. I will continue with your suggestion and prepare something based on it since this was the way we first started. This will probably make those who are trying to damage our project without researching it revise their opinion. Not that we want people like them in our project, but you know what I mean. I will prepare something based on your suggestion to enrich our followers database.
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Alright. I will continue with your suggestion and prepare something based on it since this was the way we first started. This will probably make those who are trying to damage our project without researching it revise their opinion. Not that we want people like them in our project, but you know what I mean. I will prepare something based on your suggestion to enrich our followers database.
Good stuff op! I advise posting freebets regularly in this thread or some other thread in order to attract punters since this is what is usually done within this forum based on what I observed.

You will get vouches in no time as long as your site is legit and your win-rate should be on the higher side.

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if someone wants to follow our research and copy us, he has to pay a small fee until we hit our goal, not per month like most services. Since we respect our customers cash, we are not letting them re-subscribe before we provide what we promised. We are not gifting the time that we spend on research, that's why we have the fee. When we first started we had a symbolic fee of 5€ per month and some months were completely FREE but now we cannot give such ROIs for 5€.

I like the idea. I'm not sure if it's new, but most of the services I believe charge a fixed monthly fee as long as you are subscribed. Well, thanks for explaining it well. I might consider your services once the NBA returns. Good luck
I always wonder myself what is the investment for this type of signaling services. In trading if I am good at predicting the market price them why don't I invest whatever money I have and make profit alone. The same in sportsbook or casino games. If I know for sure that In a Liverpool vs City match, City is going to win, then I will put all the money I have instead of teaching or requesting others to place bets and let them make the money.

This signal or tipsters do not make money from the bets they place, in fact I have doubt if they really place bets for themselves, their main business is to make their channel popular and earn from the subscription fees. When the ICO industry was at their top time, then haven't we seen so many signal channels. Eventually every member of their channels lost their money, but the channel owners made all.
It's not necessary for them to place bets. As long as they are consistent, gamblers are likely to avail themselves of the service. Tipsters may be good, but there's no guarantee of winning. What they are doing is eliminating the risk on their side by providing a service to help gamblers win. However, as I mentioned before, there's no guarantee of profitability, and it may result in deficits in the long run.

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July 04, 2023, 02:01:16 PM
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You are going about this all wrong op. You should first offer your services for free over a certain period of time to a particular set of users and ask them to vouch for you after that time period.

Once you establish your reputation within this forum, you should start offering VIP services to everyone which would attract many interested punters like me.

Alright. I will continue with your suggestion and prepare something based on it since this was the way we first started. This will probably make those who are trying to damage our project without researching it revise their opinion. Not that we want people like them in our project, but you know what I mean. I will prepare something based on your suggestion to enrich our followers database.

Allow me to intervene because I verified their service by also writing a short review.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5450496.msg62182048#msg62182048

Past years' track record is NOT a guarantee of what they will be able to do in the future, but a mere indication of their style of play (and a basic evidence this is not a scam service).

From the total amount wagered (at the date of my review) they have obtained a 14% profit, practically in 2 years (annualized return of 7% - counting expense for subscription details on my review).

Are you able to do better? Well play for you!
Are you able to do worse and are you looking for "support" for your activities? ok check out their service.

I think offering service for free will not help anyone to understand how it works... (please note I haven't used their service but just checked their proof of activity).

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Does people still use these type of services? I mean these aren’t fixed matches. These are just predictions, and people are risking their money on other people’s predictions. It’s better to do research on your own and bet according to your own will. At least if you face loss, then you will only curse yourself. These type of services, that OP is providing, is often considered as scam, once his customer loses a bet, they will just ignore you or block you. I won’t like to risk my money on other people’s call.
Maybe there is still a demand for it because if not then we will not seeing one anymore. Fixed match groups might be hard to find and many of them are just scams so people are only sticking with this one. Yes, they are only predictions but maybe the predictor is much skilled than those who avail the service so their chance to win is still higher and I think they already know that losing is still possible once they get unlucky.

Researching is free but you know, many of us are lazy of doing it. Researching for the group that they will be using if it's a scam or not seems easier to do. It's crazy if they will block you after a lose not unless if you are complaining.

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What they are doing is eliminating the risk on their side by providing a service to help gamblers win. However, as I mentioned before, there's no guarantee of profitability, and it may result in deficits in the long run.
I think you're right, they're just providing this service to reduce some risks in order to help the gamblers who want to win but they have said in their own OP that the signals aren't 100% accurate in fact nothing can be 100% accurate when it's related to future. I also believe that in long-term a gambler might face losses instead of profits and that's why I would say that one should do his/her own research instead of doing something like that.

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What is the reason for reactivating this thread after such a long break? In fact, this thread of yours is not active for a long time, and I checked the post history on your profile and saw that you were not active in this forum for a long time. I am interested to know if people actually use these services.

I am interested to know if any member from this forum has used your service and what is their success rate. Because this business is not an easy business, nothing can be guaranteed here.

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January 28, 2024, 07:37:45 PM
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We weren't active on all forums. Just came back here and giving vouches to reputable members or admins for service inspection.

We just won another x10 today.

From 75€ to 2422€. This takes us to +7708€ clear profit, +308% progression, +15.24% ROI from our starting capital which was 2500€. Our current capital is 10208€ now.
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January 29, 2024, 01:48:10 PM
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We weren't active on all forums. Just came back here and giving vouches to reputable members or admins for service inspection.

We just won another x10 today.

From 75€ to 2422€. This takes us to +7708€ clear profit, +308% progression, +15.24% ROI from our starting capital which was 2500€. Our current capital is 10208€ now.

as asked by ScamVirus, do you have number for the success rate that you've been getting at for the past few months? because one big winnings or one series of winnings won't tell you how good you are at giving betting signals.
much better if you will give proofs about your history to validate that your service is worth to consider.
but since you are not charging anything for now, bettors will just take a look at what you are giving here and maybe consider what you are providing to the community.
but if you start charging your services, then maybe, a long history is a very good reference to verify your capabilities in the sports betting area.

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January 29, 2024, 01:52:25 PM
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We weren't active on all forums. Just came back here and giving vouches to reputable members or admins for service inspection.

We just won another x10 today.

From 75€ to 2422€. This takes us to +7708€ clear profit, +308% progression, +15.24% ROI from our starting capital which was 2500€. Our current capital is 10208€ now.

as asked by ScamVirus, do you have number for the success rate that you've been getting at for the past few months? because one big winnings or one series of winnings won't tell you how good you are at giving betting signals.
much better if you will give proofs about your history to validate that your service is worth to consider.
These are basic things he himself knows he should show, I mean why would anyone want to take interest in some service you want to offer when obviously you haven't shown them proof and reliability so that your supposed customers can have faith to try out your supposed sure signals. I for don't believe that someone be that good to offer something that is good enough to attract more gamblers, it's gambling for God sake @LUCK.

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January 29, 2024, 11:06:26 PM
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We weren't active on all forums. Just came back here and giving vouches to reputable members or admins for service inspection.

We just won another x10 today.

From 75€ to 2422€. This takes us to +7708€ clear profit, +308% progression, +15.24% ROI from our starting capital which was 2500€. Our current capital is 10208€ now.

as asked by ScamVirus, do you have number for the success rate that you've been getting at for the past few months? because one big winnings or one series of winnings won't tell you how good you are at giving betting signals.
much better if you will give proofs about your history to validate that your service is worth to consider.
but since you are not charging anything for now, bettors will just take a look at what you are giving here and maybe consider what you are providing to the community.
but if you start charging your services, then maybe, a long history is a very good reference to verify your capabilities in the sports betting area.

Hello. The VIP Signals x10 spreadsheet is from 2021 until now. There are some bad results during COVID, which is normal since it was very difficult to stake your cash on any team at that time.

We just got another winning signal today on VIP Signals x10. Spreadsheet updated.
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February 02, 2024, 11:42:03 PM
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Just posted a new VIP signal. Looking forward to work with more people. Vouches are available for Senior Bitcoin Forum members.  Smiley
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February 11, 2024, 11:58:45 PM
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Another VIP Signal won. We are currently at 14 wins in a row!  Smiley

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