I bought Apple stock because iPhones are garbage.

[Broly46]

I too agree apple is shady as fuck, and as always shady as fuck business always make tons of profit, just like HAMAS, I wonder how many people apple has killed to make itself top selling brand. I don't care what value you want to brag about it, how the environmental friendly it is, how the customer service is respecting the user...

[adaseb]

Aapl stock is very strong. Look at stocks like Facebook or Netflix they all had a bad year last year but Apple held up pretty well. In my opinion it’s trading way too high for its value. If it comes down then obviously it would be a buy however I don’t think it will go down by much.

Yes their products are sometimes lacking and behind other competitors but people are used to iPhones and they buy them anyways. Same with the other products they sell. Everyone wants an Apple product.

[mindrust]

Iphone is a great product and apple is a great company. I don’t understand why you said their phones are garbage. They outlive every android product in existence. People still use IPhone 6s’s today and they still work fine. How many years passed since Ip6s happened? 7? 8? I think their stock is always a good buy too. Every investor should own some aapl in his portfolio.

[gaston castano]

Apple has indeed been successful in marketing their products as premium and high-end, which has helped them maintain a strong brand image and a loyal customer base. While it's true that the quality of their products is not necessarily superior to other brands in all aspects, they have built a strong reputation for their design, user experience, and customer service.

[Poker Player]

Iphone is a great product and apple is a great company. I don’t understand why you said their phones are garbage. They outlive every android product in existence. People still use IPhone 6s’s today and they still work fine. How many years passed since Ip6s happened? 7? 8? I think their stock is always a good buy too. Every investor should own some aapl in his portfolio.

I agree about the company but not about the product. How many people still use the Iphone 7? It won't be even 1% of Iphone users. Apple has a great business precisely because of the opposite, because they have a lot of people (many of low incomes) that go running to change their Iphone for the new one, in many cases refinancing it.

In the consumerist world we live in, the business is to sell a lot of phones, every year if you can, and in that Apple has a big business.

[kingvirtus09]

Here in our country, the apple or iphone14 brand can be said to be a luxury and not user friendly. The others are just buying because they are just going along with the current trend. When it comes to performance, I still prefer to use the Samsung brand whose value is 300$ and up and Huawei. But I will never buy an iphone apart from being very expensive it is not practical for my opinion and opinion.
But for others, it is their collection because they can afford to buy it.

[coinerer]

Every big and popular company makes profits as well as loses many times.  So you can't guarantee that you will make a profit by buying Apple stock. However, this does not mean that you can't stop investing because if you don't take risks, you can never gain anything good.  Buying the stock of newer companies than a popular company has higher profit potential, but it is also higher risk.  Therefore, one should invest according to his ability and research without directly listening to any kind of financial advice from someone

[tabas]

Therefore, I think it will continue to be a very good business for many years to come.

It will and as it's proven by them that people will still chase and look for them of what they've established to develop from most minds and as you've said, it's about the status symbol that they've injected in to everyone's mind that if someone buys it whether it's for the tech or specs, it can't be removed that the idea of it portrays to someone who owns it will always be there. I have nothing against with people who likes it and we can't break people's happiness if they're happy with that based on the likes that they have. I like macbook because of its battery longevity which is another Apple product. If someone can afford to buy it and worked hard for it, they deserve it as what they think. But it's a no for me to get one of it and finance it for 24 months and then a new version will come out every year, what a wise business model for them.

[Outhue]

I did the same few years back, I was using an android 5.0 at the time and the new Iphone was trending at the time, people around me start telling me that I am missing a lot by not using an iPhone.

Stupid of me, I sold my current phone and went to buy an iPhone, it doesn't take me two weeks before I sold because it's so annoying to me, battery life sucks that you will have to carry an extra power bank around with you, web browser is pretty good, gives the vine of a laptop on a smaller screen but it's not comparable to android capabilities, it's not even close.

IPhone is a great phone for those who are less into tech, I can run some codes on Android easily and there are many useful tools available for android, this is a big difference for me, I have come onto the conclusion that iPhone is just for show, it's nothing but selling names.

[Chainsmokers]

Here in our country, the apple or iphone14 brand can be said to be a luxury and not user friendly. The others are just buying because they are just going along with the current trend. When it comes to performance, I still prefer to use the Samsung brand whose value is 300$ and up and Huawei. But I will never buy an iphone apart from being very expensive it is not practical for my opinion and opinion.
But for others, it is their collection because they can afford to buy it.

For Iphone I think the price is indeed more expensive than Android but the quality is not in doubt,
basically all of them have their advantages and disadvantages and that is normal,
So it all depends on each person's preferences.

[davis196]

Apple has managed with the Iphones to sell an idea of status or prestige that has no justification in the quality of the product, but in the faith that their followers have in them.

Therefore, I think it will continue to be a very good business for many years to come.

I agree that Apple is more like a fashion brand, rather than a high tech company. The people buy expensive iPhones, just because it's iPhone, not because they are better and more useful than any other smartphone out there. The marketing of Apple products is spot on.
However, I wouldn't buy Apple stocks, because they seem overvalued. Sooner or later Apple will be outperformed by another "fashionable" high tech company. I never really understood the mentality of all the diehard Apple fanatics. Is this stupidity or vanity? Or maybe both?

[SatoPrincess]

Apple users know that Apple products are not the best but they buy them anyway. I think they are more interested in the prestige of owning a iPhone, a MacBook or a series watch, we like luxurious things and love to show them off and Apple has projected itself as the product that’s used by the upper echelons of society. People have been cajoled to believe the iPhone represents a person’s social standings, in my country the iPhone is most sought after  device, a person earning less than $200/month would save up to buy a fairly used iPhone. They want to associate themselves with the brand and what they think it represents.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I will never trust Apple products, and the expensive price is not the first reason I dislike this company. If we talk about the espionage that Apple is conducting, then this exceeds all norms of human decency. It intervenes wherever possible, justifying surveillance on the grounds that the company is concerned about the user's safety. Saving all correspondence, all photos, and the work of the microphone everywhere without the permission of the owner are just a few "little things."
In my country, owning Apple technology is just a cry of vanity, nothing more. If we talk about convenience, then Chinese phones have already exceeded all the advantages of an Apple Core dozens of times.

[Fortify]

So, I had been an Android user for a long time, specifically a high-end Samsung, except once when I got a Huawei or Xiaomi as a present, I don't remember.

I recently decided to buy an Iphone to see for myself what was good about it and compare it with Android, because I had seen eternal debates on the internet and I preferred to decide for myself.

I bought the Iphone 14, paid in cash, without insurance or shit, and after a few weeks of use, the only thing I see better than Android is the camera. The operating system sucks, and has disadvantages like it sucks to copy and paste conversations on Whatsapp, or not being able to edit a word you are writing when you see that you made a mistake in a letter without deleting the whole word. The swype keyboard sucks. The same for phone numbers: if you make a mistake while typing or you copy and paste a phone number and you want to add the international prefix, you can't do it, you have to delete the whole number and write it again without the error or with the prefix at the beginning, depending on the case. 

In the end, I think it's at the very least equal to, if not worse than any $300 Android, which I came to the conclusion that if Apple has managed to sell shit at a gold price, I wanted to be part of the deal and have bought Apple stock.

I know people with low incomes that finance the Iphone for 24 months and when the new one comes out they go to get it by refinancing (although they also get a discount for returning the old one).

Apple has managed with the Iphones to sell an idea of status or prestige that has no justification in the quality of the product, but in the faith that their followers have in them.

Therefore, I think it will continue to be a very good business for many years to come.

While it's interesting to see the outcome of your experiment, it is curious that you'd waste whatever large sum it cost you for an iPhone in order to figure these things out. Maybe asking a friend and having a little play around could have come up with the same thoughts, but you might have a lot more free cash that makes this acceptable. I've been using an Android for probably ten years since switching away from Apple and it feels perfectly intuitive, the only advantage I could see from an iPhone is that the store is alot more regulated and you're less likely to get malicious applications in it because they invest more in the vetting process. Besides that for me personally, having a slightly better camera means little.

[Synchronice]

So, I had been an Android user for a long time, specifically a high-end Samsung, except once when I got a Huawei or Xiaomi as a present, I don't remember.

I recently decided to buy an Iphone to see for myself what was good about it and compare it with Android, because I had seen eternal debates on the internet and I preferred to decide for myself.

I bought the Iphone 14, paid in cash, without insurance or shit, and after a few weeks of use, the only thing I see better than Android is the camera. The operating system sucks, and has disadvantages like it sucks to copy and paste conversations on Whatsapp, or not being able to edit a word you are writing when you see that you made a mistake in a letter without deleting the whole word. The swype keyboard sucks. The same for phone numbers: if you make a mistake while typing or you copy and paste a phone number and you want to add the international prefix, you can't do it, you have to delete the whole number and write it again without the error or with the prefix at the beginning, depending on the case. 

In the end, I think it's at the very least equal to, if not worse than any $300 Android, which I came to the conclusion that if Apple has managed to sell shit at a gold price, I wanted to be part of the deal and have bought Apple stock.

I know people with low incomes that finance the Iphone for 24 months and when the new one comes out they go to get it by refinancing (although they also get a discount for returning the old one).

Apple has managed with the Iphones to sell an idea of status or prestige that has no justification in the quality of the product, but in the faith that their followers have in them.

Therefore, I think it will continue to be a very good business for many years to come.

If I were you, I would buy an iPhone 14 pro instea of just 14, just saying.
By the way, Apple has an amazing marketing strategy unlikely Samsung, Xiaomi and other companies. Apple just builds one model of smartphone per year, while Samsung builds tons of smartphones with different price range, for low-income to high-income people but apple only creates one for high-income people that is often bought by low-income people, do you understand how amazingly well they are doing? You create a product for rich people but because it's for rich and poor wants to look like a rich, poor are the main income sources.
Also, Apple products have a very lightweight, easy and simple user interface, you just need to adapt because yeah, it's hard to move from android to iPhone overnight. Personally, I enjoy operating system that offers me a lot of features and options, I don't like simple UI but you know, me and you aren't their target, the whole population is their target and in order to increase sales, you must meet demand of average person and the highest % of population.

99% of people who buy Apple smartphones, don't actually need it. I bet 99% of iPhone users don't really use its full potential and their mostly used apps are Camera, Instagram, Facebook and TikTok.

Just have a look at Balenciaga, Gucci clothes. Wait, are they more fashionable than Pull & Bear? Hell no, they look worse but you know, people can't judge. If there are 15 people and 10 thinks that shit is cool, then 3 more people will find shit cool.

In the world were Liver King has millions of subscribers and followers, it's clear to see how Fckd we are.

[dansus021]

I also an android user for couple decade now if I had money I would surely buy an high end android like Google Phone or Samsung or even Xiaomi Flagship.

In my country iPhone is like the god of phone many of them praise it no doubt the camera is good but the other things is good at android The only problem with android is they don't have the ecosystem or lack of it.

and in the other hand iPhone is crazy expensive and in my opinion iPhone is one of luxurious brand out there. But if you are an apple boy you will probably debating me but that is okay world is full of it hahaha

[teosanru]

I would say it's sort of a non conventional way of thinking, even investors don't think like this. Most of the investors, invest in products and solutions which they feel are groundbreaking or have even solved problems in their own lives. Here I feel you are feeling that the product or the solution is a complete shit but the story that the product tells is good, which is why Apple is running nicely. I somehow agree with the story part, but will tell you one thing for sure. If a product is not worthy and only sells due to story telling, the company surely doesn't has a good future ahead so beware while investing.

It can't be about the story telling only. I doubt that the Apple products are worth as much as they actually are, but I have been an Apple user for a long time and apart from the fact that any necessary repairs are extremely expensive, I got stuff replaced for free most of the time. Their service has been pretty strong for me personally and they are quick to help. The only thing that is really a pain in the ass is the material smartphone producers use for their displays. I am sure they could be using material that can't get broken as easily. That was probably the biggest issue I had with my iPhones. But in general I think the devices are highly reliable. Never had a phone dying out of a sudden or anything like that.

Now this is no safe bet per se, but Apple is also sitting on 200 billion USD in cash. Their ability to undertake major investments in R&D and to pay huge dividends for quite some time to come is probably a big pro from an investor's point of view.

The prime cost or the ex factory cost of Apple might not look that high and this makes it look very expensive. But if you see Apple is a heavy investor on it's new Technology as well. Also both it's opex and capex in terms of R&D is very high. I heard they even patented the technology of self healing screens which obviously could be a ground breaker. It would like increasing average phone lives by 1-2 years. But obviously apple Knows it's like hitting your on feet with an axe because eventually it's killing it's repeat customers so this would mean initial product would Cost much much higher as well. So obviously it might not be worth the price based on factory cost but overall cost of Apple per phone is still too high.

[vv181]

the only thing I see better than Android is the camera. The operating system sucks, and has disadvantages like it sucks to copy and paste conversations on Whatsapp, or not being able to edit a word you are writing when you see that you made a mistake in a letter without deleting the whole word. The swype keyboard sucks. ~

Quite subjective since those things you mentioned are rather on the UX side, maybe you will get used as soon as you use it regularly. As for editing a word, most document applications should be able to set the cursor to a specific part of the word so you didn't have to delete the whole one.

In the end, I think it's at the very least equal to, if not worse than any $300 Android, which I came to the conclusion that if Apple has managed to sell shit at a gold price, I wanted to be part of the deal and have bought Apple stock.

I know people with low incomes that finance the Iphone for 24 months and when the new one comes out they go to get it by refinancing (although they also get a discount for returning the old one).

Apple has managed with the Iphones to sell an idea of status or prestige that has no justification in the quality of the product, but in the faith that their followers have in them.

I could not agree more that they have prestigious branding. It is also worth mentioning the Apple tax. Apple is known to set strict boundaries within their ecosystem, fortunately, the recent EU regulation makes them allow sideload/install applications from outside of Apple sources. That kind of enforcement is a good thing to minimize the monopolies they have gotten.

[molsewid]

So, I had been an Android user for a long time, specifically a high-end Samsung, except once when I got a Huawei or Xiaomi as a present, I don't remember.

I recently decided to buy an Iphone to see for myself what was good about it and compare it with Android, because I had seen eternal debates on the internet and I preferred to decide for myself.

I bought the Iphone 14, paid in cash, without insurance or shit, and after a few weeks of use, the only thing I see better than Android is the camera. The operating system sucks, and has disadvantages like it sucks to copy and paste conversations on Whatsapp, or not being able to edit a word you are writing when you see that you made a mistake in a letter without deleting the whole word. The swype keyboard sucks. The same for phone numbers: if you make a mistake while typing or you copy and paste a phone number and you want to add the international prefix, you can't do it, you have to delete the whole number and write it again without the error or with the prefix at the beginning, depending on the case. 

In the end, I think it's at the very least equal to, if not worse than any $300 Android, which I came to the conclusion that if Apple has managed to sell shit at a gold price, I wanted to be part of the deal and have bought Apple stock.

I know people with low incomes that finance the Iphone for 24 months and when the new one comes out they go to get it by refinancing (although they also get a discount for returning the old one).

Apple has managed with the Iphones to sell an idea of status or prestige that has no justification in the quality of the product, but in the faith that their followers have in them.

Therefore, I think it will continue to be a very good business for many years to come.

Investing in Apple inc is somehow good, they have good branding, they are already dominating the market for so long they also have a decade of services and proven track record so you can assure that in any situation apple can have their own strategy once things go wrong and market falls. Apple is a good brand and many business trust Apple.

[naira]

You are really thorough in this matter, even some people like me don't know how skilled they are about electronic goods, so it's really worth investing in. What's more, maybe I don't really care about the trend of cellphones, which are getting more and more updated every day, so that it increases interest in investing. And so far my view of electronic goods, especially cellphones, is only limited to communication tools, nothing more than that. Even I hold an android phone that is outdated but decent to use and can still support my daily needs.

But if the context is like you who are this detailed in the purchase, it feels like it goes back to how much we need it and how important the cellphone is to reach for something more than just communication.