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April 29, 2023, 04:51:06 PM |
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I don't know what other members will say but I think you should negatively tag him, he is basically plagiarizing you by submitting your youtube content as his. it doesn't matter that he submitted the video first since there is clear evidence on your youtube description that the video is yours and not his.
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April 29, 2023, 05:00:56 PM |
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You did the right thing by contacting the campaign manager and informing him about this. What I find interesting, though, is that the accused user Apt2022 posted his POA one day before you post yours and according to the timestamp field on the campaign spreadsheet he submitted his entry one day before you do! Where did he get the link to the YouTube video from?
Anyway, all you need to do is to prove to the cm that you are the real owner of the YouTube channel (which isn't hard to do) and, hopefully, he will reject the other user's submition.
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cheezcarls (OP)
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April 29, 2023, 05:34:04 PM Last edit: April 29, 2023, 05:48:59 PM by cheezcarls |
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You did the right thing by contacting the campaign manager and informing him about this. What I find interesting, though, is that the accused user Apt2022 posted his POA one day before you post yours and according to the timestamp field on the campaign spreadsheet he submitted his entry one day before you do! Where did he get the link to the YouTube video from?
Anyway, all you need to do is to prove to the cm that you are the real owner of the YouTube channel (which isn't hard to do) and, hopefully, he will reject the other user's submition.
At first I did not know there was a bounty program for JOT because I was too busy with a lot of important stuff. I did made and uploaded the video without any knowledge of the bounty because of a separate KOL deal (which ultimately turned out that the deal did not continue) until I have found this thread myself. So when I have checked the spreadsheet entry I am surprised that Apt2022 used my video without my permission or consent. Yes I have already sent my proof to him that I am the legitimate owner of this video because of my POA placed in my Youtube description. I am still waiting for him to take action, maybe he's asleep. I'll just wait and see then. But for now I'll give Apt2022 a negative tag to catch his attention. Plagiarism and copyright infringement is something that we cannot tolerate nowadays. There's no way I'll be removing the negative tag and it's gonna be permanent to teach him a lesson that he'll never forget. Even if he says sorry or apologize, the damage has been done and I'm not changing my mind.
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April 29, 2023, 06:34:44 PM |
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In my own opinion, it is not up to you to tag him with a negative trust, what I think you should do is what you have done, and that is reporting him the bounty manager, is it up to the bounty manager to tag him with a negative trust, and if necessary, ban him from participating in future bounties..
So what I will advice is that, you wait for response from the bounty manager, he is the one to handle the case in the best way, you can tag the user later, but wait for bounty manager to tag him first plus take other necessary action on him.
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April 29, 2023, 07:14:10 PM |
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In my own opinion, it is not up to you to tag him with a negative trust, what I think you should do is what you have done, and that is reporting him the bounty manager, is it up to the bounty manager to tag him with a negative trust, and if necessary, ban him from participating in future bounties..
So what I will advice is that, you wait for response from the bounty manager, he is the one to handle the case in the best way, you can tag the user later, but wait for bounty manager to tag him first plus take other necessary action on him.
So you want me to remove my tag and let the bounty manager handle the situation first? It's just your opinion right? Coz' I have already tagged the user as it is not acceptable for me whether bounty or no bounty that he is taking advantage of my content that is not his and claiming it as his own entry without permission or consent. The bounty manager doesn't have reputation either if he is willing to cooperate with me on this issue or not. I will also try reaching out the Jot Art team themselves who have connections with the bounty manager to attend to this important matter.
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April 29, 2023, 07:31:32 PM |
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In my own opinion, it is not up to you to tag him with a negative trust, what I think you should do is what you have done, and that is reporting him the bounty manager, is it up to the bounty manager to tag him with a negative trust, and if necessary, ban him from participating in future bounties..
So what I will advice is that, you wait for response from the bounty manager, he is the one to handle the case in the best way, you can tag the user later, but wait for bounty manager to tag him first plus take other necessary action on him.
So you want me to remove my tag and let the bounty manager handle the situation first? It's just your opinion right? Coz' I have already tagged the user as it is not acceptable for me whether bounty or no bounty that he is taking advantage of my content that is not his and claiming it as his own entry without permission or consent. The bounty manager doesn't have reputation either if he is willing to cooperate with me on this issue or not. I will also try reaching out the Jot Art team themselves who have connections with the bounty manager to attend to this important matter. Since you have tagged him, there is no need removing it, but I want you to know that the final decision still falls bounty manager, he is the one in charge of the campaign, and as such it is his responsibility to look into issues like this, he is the one that will check and confirm of a truth, that the user in question entered the video bounty with your content, he is the one to nullify that user's entry and deny him payment, he is the one to decide whether to ban him from participating in future bounties, it is also his responsibility to report him to DT members so that they can tag him, with the tag from DT members, no other bounty manager will accept the user in to his or her campaign in the future,.. So in conclusion, what I am saying in essence is that, your tag has little to no effect on the user, until bounty manager and DT members step in.
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People will say tag and others will say don't. I feel the tag is just as the user has shown he cannot be trusted to make a trade with as he is low enough to steal videos for a few tokens.
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This guy Apt2022 is using my video without permission or consent for the Jot Art bounty. 100% of this guy posts (exact number is 154) are junk posted in Altcoins Bounties, so I don't think it matters much if people tag him or not. I would rate his history as spamming and maybe he deserves to be temp banned for doing this, but some members maybe don't agree with me and this is not mentioned anywhere in forum rules. Try reporting that post with stolen content to moderators.
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People will say tag and others will say don't. I feel the tag is just as the user has shown he cannot be trusted to make a trade with as he is low enough to steal videos for a few tokens.
I tag him and hopefully cheezcarls' and my tag will help other bounty managers to not include him on their campaign and this make their job easier, bounty managers don't like cheaters in their campaign which is why bounty managers asked for POA and a link of your Bitcointalk profile and username to your work. This guy is hoping that he can get away, he must have been doing this for quite some time because of his number of posts and participation in the bounty campaigns.
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I would rate his history as spamming and maybe he deserves to be temp banned for doing this, but some members maybe don't agree with me and this is not mentioned anywhere in forum rules.
Not only just his post, the account in question here is also Evading a ban. Reporting Ban evasionYii Leu [ Banned ]Apt2022 Proof:~~~ Bsc wallet address: 0x8f583C1E8DDbf8042092Ac347dbA7a0E2B634DD1
~~~ BSC Wallet Address: 0x8f583c1e8ddbf8042092ac347dba7a0e2b634dd1
[ Archived ] Related Addresses:BSC Wallet Address: 0x8f583c1e8ddbf8042092ac347dba7a0e2b634dd1
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[...] Since you have tagged him, there is no need removing it, but I want you to know that the final decision still falls bounty manager, he is the one in charge of the campaign, and as such it is his responsibility to look into issues like this, he is the one that will check and confirm of a truth, that the user in question entered the video bounty with your content, he is the one to nullify that user's entry and deny him payment, he is the one to decide whether to ban him from participating in future bounties, it is also his responsibility to report him to DT members so that they can tag him, with the tag from DT members, no other bounty manager will accept the user in to his or her campaign in the future,..
So in conclusion, what I am saying in essence is that, your tag has little to no effect on the user, until bounty manager and DT members step in.
Yes, it is a bounty manager's duty to take action against abuse like banning the user from their future bounty or reporting to reputation thread so a more severe action can be taken against the abuser, but it's every members's right --or should I say "duty"-- to report the same abuses of forum rules if they found it and leave a negative tag if they deemed it necessary, disregarding their DT status. Since OP is directly involved on this case, as the victim, I think he has the full right to not trusting Apt2022 and express it in form of leaving the said feedback. I am failed to see the logic behind, "it is not up to you to tag him with a negative trust." Sorry if I sound rude and consider this an apology in advance if that that what you need to help you swallow the pill, but I simply dumbfounded by that statement. I am not sure how copyrights works on YouTube, whether the owner of the content has the full rights or they automatically relinguish the right and it is then reserved to youtube, but I am somewhat sure whichever rules applied for ownership of a content on that platform, taking someone's work and claimed it as yours still considered as stealing, and as such, not to be trusted. I am leaving negative tag as well.
OP, if you want to, you can change the thread title from "someone" to "Apt2022" so anyone taking a glance at topic list on this board would get a better understanding of the situation. Second, though I am not sure how he can get out of this situation, I also advised you to at least invite Apt2022 to this thread by PMing him, so he can defend himself or give his side of story. It's an ethical thing to do.
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OP, if you want to, you can change the thread title from "someone" to "Apt2022" so anyone taking a glance at topic list on this board would get a better understanding of the situation. Second, though I am not sure how he can get out of this situation, I also advised you to at least invite Apt2022 to this thread by PMing him, so he can defend himself or give his side of story. It's an ethical thing to do.
Yes, I think it's better to name that guy and send the manager this link to ban him from the campaign I don't think he can defend his action because he has a history of cheating and ban evasion, it's intentional. He followed Cheezcarl's channel and beat him to the registration he register ahead of Cheezcarl so there is an intention to cheat but if the manager always checks the details he'll find out that the submission does not belong to the cheater, I hope the manager is good when it comes to details.
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April 30, 2023, 03:24:22 AM |
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Do you think we should give him a negative tag for using my content without permission? Coz' this is unacceptable considering my time and effort in doing this content.
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I think it is. Its called stealing and can be categorize on plagiarize or copyright in your behalf and doing that can be recognized as untrustworthy. If you deemed confident with the evidences provided then you may put negative tagged and if other judgement is likely the same and do it. Some would probably tagged it as well. At least put the details clearly on the negative comment to make sure others will be warned of the person.
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April 30, 2023, 03:53:42 AM |
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Seems little late with your post proof than cheater make early when joining bounty JOT ART, for upcoming time better post proof first with your video content before cheater take your video. You can report with this cases to Bounty Campaign manager about the user Apt2022 have stole your video and used for joining Youtube campaign.
Its not fair when cheating get approving in that bounty campaign with your video because on spreadsheet campaign his name on the first and your second place, maybe for Bounty Campaign manager mindset the early joining campaign is use their real video and not update yet about spreadsheet for this cheater removed.
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April 30, 2023, 05:06:03 AM |
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I'm sure OP is fully aware of this kind of cheating in the past when there are no proof of verification cheaters can cheat and steal other people's work but even if we have this requirement, there are still cheaters they are hoping that with the huge number of participants, the bounty manager will not notice the submissions. So if you're participating in Youtube, articles tiktok where you need to submit entries you have to follow and check the spreadsheets if someone is stealing your work
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JeromeTash
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April 30, 2023, 08:08:22 AM |
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Do you think we should give him a negative tag for using my content without permission? Coz' this is unacceptable considering my time and effort in doing this content.
Yes, tagging is more than OK. In fact, I am adding my negative tag on his profile so that it also helps warn other campaign managers in case he tries to apply for their bounties Him stealing your content and presenting it as his in order to earn tokens is no different from someone who's a scammer
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Rikafip
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April 30, 2023, 08:17:41 AM |
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In my own opinion, it is not up to you to tag him with a negative trust, what I think you should do is what you have done, and that is reporting him the bounty manager, is it up to the bounty manager to tag him with a negative trust, and if necessary, ban him from participating in future bounties..
How come it is not up to him to tag that scammer for stealing his own work? To me, that is a textbook example of a good reason for a negative feedfback and I just left one to Apt2022 as well since I think that person in question can't be trusted at all. The only problem is that its a Newbie account in question so he will easily ditch this one and continue business as usual with another one.
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virasog
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April 30, 2023, 09:01:29 AM |
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I don't know what other members will say but I think you should negatively tag him, he is basically plagiarizing you by submitting your youtube content as his. it doesn't matter that he submitted the video first since there is clear evidence on your youtube description that the video is yours and not his.
Apt2022 has been negatively tagged and this serves him right. I hope the bounty managers won't accept him in bounty campaigns as he clearly wanted to cheat the bounty in order to get the stakes. Don't know why some bounties hunter thinks that there are so clever that they can do anything, and no one will notice them or report them. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fu4hd1wA.jpg&t=665&c=uv2R7FNvF79c1g)
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cheezcarls (OP)
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April 30, 2023, 09:07:00 AM |
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OP, if you want to, you can change the thread title from "someone" to "Apt2022" so anyone taking a glance at topic list on this board would get a better understanding of the situation. Second, though I am not sure how he can get out of this situation, I also advised you to at least invite Apt2022 to this thread by PMing him, so he can defend himself or give his side of story. It's an ethical thing to do.
Yes, I think it's better to name that guy and send the manager this link to ban him from the campaign I don't think he can defend his action because he has a history of cheating and ban evasion, it's intentional. He followed Cheezcarl's channel and beat him to the registration he register ahead of Cheezcarl so there is an intention to cheat but if the manager always checks the details he'll find out that the submission does not belong to the cheater, I hope the manager is good when it comes to details. Yup I already did now and still no word or action from the bounty manager. His entry is still there untouched or unedited by the bounty manager. I have yet to receive a reply from him either. Also informed the JOT Art team about this and will keep following them up. Still wondering if the bounty manager is willing to cooperate on this matter. More than 12 hours have passed and still not checking this issue. Hopefully he's not gonna ignore this. I would rate his history as spamming and maybe he deserves to be temp banned for doing this, but some members maybe don't agree with me and this is not mentioned anywhere in forum rules.
Not only just his post, the account in question here is also Evading a ban. Reporting Ban evasionYii Leu [ Banned ]Apt2022 Proof:~~~ Bsc wallet address: 0x8f583C1E8DDbf8042092Ac347dbA7a0E2B634DD1
~~~ BSC Wallet Address: 0x8f583c1e8ddbf8042092ac347dba7a0e2b634dd1
[ Archived ] Related Addresses:BSC Wallet Address: 0x8f583c1e8ddbf8042092ac347dba7a0e2b634dd1 So it's an Alt account of his for ban evasion because of using the same address as the one got banned.
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