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April 30, 2023, 06:19:59 PM
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I am excited to present a proposal for integrating artificial intelligence (AI) with the BitcoinTalk forum. As you all know, the BitcoinTalk forum has been around for over a decade and has a massive amount of data stored on it. This data includes discussions, opinions, and insights from the Bitcoin community on various topics related to cryptocurrencies.

However, the vast amount of information on the BitcoinTalk forum can be overwhelming and difficult to navigate, especially for new users. This is where AI comes in. By integrating AI technology, we can create a more user-friendly experience for both new and existing users.

The proposed project aims to use AI algorithms to analyze and categorize the forum's data, allowing users to easily search and find information on specific topics. The AI would also be able to identify patterns in the data, which could provide valuable insights into the Bitcoin community's sentiment and trends.

Some potential applications of the AI could include:
  • Predicting market trends and identifying potential price movements based on sentiment analysis of the forum's discussions
  • Detecting and filtering out spam and fraudulent activity on the forum
  • Providing personalized recommendations and content to users based on their activity and interests
  • Generating insights and reports for traders, investors, and other cryptocurrency enthusiasts

The AI could be accessed through an API or a web interface, and could be integrated with other tools and platforms in the cryptocurrency ecosystem.

Overall, the integration of AI technology with the BitcoinTalk forum has the potential to greatly improve the user experience and enhance the community's ability to share knowledge and insights. I would love to hear your thoughts on this proposal and any ideas you may have for its implementation.

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April 30, 2023, 06:30:30 PM
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I would love to hear your thoughts on this proposal and any ideas you may have for its implementation.
My teachers, I think I will really love things to be done the same old way. The search option is here for us to use and navigate around the forum, and things are being done manually just as they are being done. I think this forum is respected the way it is today because of the way things are being done manually by individuals opinions; everyone shares ideas; problems are being solved from different users experiences and ideas on every particular matter; no machine or AI is involved in gathering information to conclude what is what.

In my opinion, I think the forum is just better off the way it is. There are lots of members here to help show newbies around and correct them if errors are being made. Spam is not moderated, but it is also manually detected with solid proof by members who are here.

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April 30, 2023, 06:33:03 PM
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  • Predicting market trends and identifying potential price movements based on sentiment analysis of the forum's discussions
  • Detecting and filtering out spam and fraudulent activity on the forum
  • Providing personalized recommendations and content to users based on their activity and interests
  • Generating insights and reports for traders, investors, and other cryptocurrency enthusiasts
1. When theymos and/or a lot of community member doesn't support implementing an option to visualize Bitcoin price on any corner of the forum, do you think theymos will ever consider implementing this? I really doubt it. theymos would never take the risk of predicting price movements and then get blamed lol. I don't see a reason why the forum would implement that.
However, as a user, you or anyone else can offer such a service through the help of AI and I'm sure that would be appreciated by a lot of community members including me.
2. How would AI detect fraudulent activity? I don't think there will be such an option anyhow. You can never know who is a scammer and who isn't. Maybe based on certain criteria, AI will be able to detect some scammers but it can never guarantee who is a fraud or who isn't. At the end of the day, theymos has to take the responsibility which won't happen, doesn't make sense either.
3. That would be something cool but you can still be personalized by ignoring a board, enabling notification of thread creation, etc.
4. Same as 1.

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April 30, 2023, 07:00:52 PM
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I am not entirely convinced about using AI for this purpose. Sure, it could make the forum easier to navigate and help users find what they are looking for, but I am worried it might take away from the personal touch of the community. There is just something about a forum where people are posting and replying to each other that makes it feel more personal, that cannot be replaced by automated algorithms. Besides, there have already been cases where AI-powered content recommendation systems have gone wrong, such as when Twitter's algorithm started recommending conspiracy theories and fake news to users. The same thing could happen with forums. I think it would be more beneficial for us to focus on improving the quality of our existing posts instead. Maybe we could find a middle ground, where AI is used to assist human moderation instead of completely taking over.

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April 30, 2023, 07:12:08 PM
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  • Predicting market trends and identifying potential price movements based on sentiment analysis of the forum's discussions
  • Detecting and filtering out spam and fraudulent activity on the forum
  • Providing personalized recommendations and content to users based on their activity and interests
  • Generating insights and reports for traders, investors, and other cryptocurrency enthusiasts
1. When theymos and/or a lot of community member doesn't support implementing an option to visualize Bitcoin price on any corner of the forum, do you think theymos will ever consider implementing this? I really doubt it. theymos would never take the risk of predicting price movements and then get blamed lol. I don't see a reason why the forum would implement that.
However, as a user, you or anyone else can offer such a service through the help of AI and I'm sure that would be appreciated by a lot of community members including me.
[...]

I'd like to add something on point number 1, which already very well said.

Wouldn't employing an AI to analyze and predict market movement based on forum's discussion mean it'll be more easy to create a hype or PnD? All a trash project need is creating a fake buzz by having a bounty asking the participants to create an enthusiastic post on the forum? Yes, it is against forum's rule to incentivize post, but as they're already here to scam and rugpulling people, I am very much sure they won't mind breaking that forum's rule as well.

The AI won't be able to determine if the discussion is organic or artificial, and voila, the clueless members of this forum get scammed and the scammers get an easier way to run with people's money.

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April 30, 2023, 07:43:13 PM
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Generating insights and reports for traders, investors, and other cryptocurrency enthusiasts
Bitcointalk is a forum for discussing about Bitcoin and other whatnots, it is neither a trading or a speculating platform, but if a users need such information they should visit the trading discussion and speculation section.
Providing personalized recommendations and content to users based on their activity and interests
Users know what their interests are already, they should visit the sections that interests them, they don't need any AI for that reason.
Detecting and filtering out spam and fraudulent activity on the forum
Whilst i don't know how the AI is going to do this, it is still a no. Come to think of it, all of the AI generated posts users have been posting on the forum are all spam, thus i think the forum would go downhill if AI helps us in detecting spam. Grin

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April 30, 2023, 08:04:22 PM
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I am excited to present a proposal for integrating artificial intelligence (AI) with the BitcoinTalk forum. As you all know, the BitcoinTalk forum has been around for over a decade and has a massive amount of data stored on it. This data includes discussions, opinions, and insights from the Bitcoin community on various topics related to cryptocurrencies.

Some potential applications of the AI could include:
  • Predicting market trends and identifying potential price movements based on sentiment analysis of the forum's discussions
  • Generating insights and reports for traders, investors, and other cryptocurrency enthusiasts
Especially in these 2 proposed application. Although advanced AI algorithms can assist in predicting the cryptocurrency market, it is essential to recognize that this prediction is not an exact science and involves a certain level of uncertainty. Consequently, it is advisable to regard AI predictions as a supplementary tool in investment strategy and factor in other considerations, including your risk tolerance, investment goals, and market circumstances

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April 30, 2023, 08:54:17 PM
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This is actually good but there are some cases we don't need AI as it stance now they are really looking for a way to deal away with AI because most users are too lazy to source information on their own rather using this AI of a thing to generate messages and post on this forum which is not encouraging in any way at all ( which really encouraging the rate of spam in the forum), so for me I will suggest it is better we explore the forum manually the way it's and is pretty cool with us more better than exploring with AI.
I believe here is a very large community and if making it a remote place i don't think it will be interesting for people to sources data here, less you forget about this, people may use this forum as a reference site in giving some examples. in Summary the previous way would be more ideal for we users than implementing AI.
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April 30, 2023, 09:09:51 PM
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Funny enough the firms behind the ChatGPT and other so called AI call their product pretrained.
I'm not in favor letting a software control funktions in any manmade application. 

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April 30, 2023, 09:49:47 PM
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I would love to hear your thoughts on this proposal and any ideas you may have for its implementation.
My teachers, I think I will really love things to be done the same old way. The search option is here for us to use and navigate around the forum, and things are being done manually just as they are being done. I think this forum is respected the way it is today because of the way things are being done manually by individuals opinions; everyone shares ideas; problems are being solved from different users experiences and ideas on every particular matter; no machine or AI is involved in gathering information to conclude what is what.

In my opinion, I think the forum is just better off the way it is. There are lots of members here to help show newbies around and correct them if errors are being made. Spam is not moderated, but it is also manually detected with solid proof by members who are here.

I'm with you on this. I dont think we need AI on the forum. Why do some people wany AI
attached to everything. If it keeps going the way they want?

Leave the forum as it is, is it really that difficult to spend a little time searching the forum,
interacting with it?

I think there will be a lot of people in the future who wont be able to do as much for
themselves as can be done now.

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May 01, 2023, 01:45:07 AM
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I'd like to add something on point number 1, which already very well said.

Wouldn't employing an AI to analyze and predict market movement based on forum's discussion mean it'll be more easy to create a hype or PnD? All a trash project need is creating a fake buzz by having a bounty asking the participants to create an enthusiastic post on the forum? Yes, it is against forum's rule to incentivize post, but as they're already here to scam and rugpulling people, I am very much sure they won't mind breaking that forum's rule as well.

The AI won't be able to determine if the discussion is organic or artificial, and voila, the clueless members of this forum get scammed and the scammers get an easier way to run with people's money.

Fake hype can partially be countered by stats of users such as merits, user with good amount of 'earned' merits, his opinion of high value. However, this kind of gets deep, one implemention asks for many measures, so much that it might no longer be feasible to implement in first place.

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Overall, the integration of AI technology with the BitcoinTalk forum has the potential to greatly improve the user experience and enhance the community's ability to share knowledge and insights. I would love to hear your thoughts on this proposal and any ideas you may have for its implementation.
I guess it's not really necessary, everything is fine so far. I'm not talking about technology or anything like that, I'm talking about user experience and what this forum has and is bringing. It's perfectly fine, everyone here is fine with these wonderful things.
All previous suggestions, and yours, are being worked on very well by the hard working users of this forum. Everyone is always ready to share knowledge with each other, there are dozens of topics to help people, weekly statistics, cheat,... AI can't do things like them, adding AI is not an optimal solution, but it takes a lot of resources and resources to implement, so why need it?

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          -  For my view and opinion, this forum doesn't need the AI system anymore. The bitcointalk platform has lasted almost 1 decades without AI, why is that still necessary?

Also, assuming that AI will be integrated into this platform, even if it is known that it will not happen. It will come out that the communities here will be lazy to think mostly because they will just rely on AI that the individual should be the one to do. The other community members will no longer research in a natural way because they will think that there is AI, so the growth of the maturity of each community will instead of increasing what will happen will decrease even more, this is the insight that I visualize in the future.

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Cmon man is this a joke? With regards to your post:





Was this a plea for merits or else why would you bother? Its so sterile its hard to read from start to finish, just knowing its computer-generated gibberish.

With regards to the idea itself:



To be fair to you, this is probably your worst post ever  Cheesy

meaning you haven't made a habit out of AI posting, unlike one previous poster in this thread (I'll leave it up to you guys to figure out which one).

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With regards to the idea itself:



To be fair to you, this is probably your worst post ever  Cheesy

Something more than worst...
I don't know where the idea came from. At the point the forum is battling how to curtail the excesses of AI usage in the forum, someone is proposing a community where bots and humans will compete

How about a bigger NO!

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Overall, the integration of AI technology with the BitcoinTalk forum has the potential to greatly improve the user experience and enhance the community's ability to share knowledge and insights. I would love to hear your thoughts on this proposal and any ideas you may have for its implementation.

Based on Nutilda's assessment this post by OP is an AI-generated post I could have voted for AI to be included here in Bitcointalk if a human recommended it based on his opinion and assessment of course AI will create very compelling reasons that's what AI does, we will stop thinking how good human in terms of analyzing prices and predictions if we allow AI to rule this forum.
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Based on Nutilda's assessment this post by OP is an AI-generated post I could have voted for AI to be included here in Bitcointalk if a human recommended it based on his opinion and assessment of course AI will create very compelling reasons that's what AI does, we will stop thinking how good human in terms of analyzing prices and predictions if we allow AI to rule this forum.

We don't need this AI as we are not interested in drawing textual descriptions of Pikachus dining on top of an Eiffel Tower or any other miscellaneous not-so-useful chatting services that Big Tech thinks we need more of. I'm already building a Robocop, anyway.

Most GPT chatbots are research previews anyway, and it's best to treat the technology as such and not use it for anything highly important at this stage.


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  • Providing personalized recommendations and content to users based on their activity and interests

What I don't understand is this, it makes me believe the thread was made by AI. Members know their interest boards and wouldn't need any recommendations, sounds like we're on twitter where it's hard to navigate every content on the app. The forum is arranged in boards for members to easily ignore or utilize any content based on their activity. I don't think AI would achieve that for members unless through PM, a bigger red flag. What's the essence of visiting a board if AI, eliminating other topics, chooses the thread it feels would be nice for me? Basically it'll winnow out threads with little or no conversations.


  • Detecting and filtering out spam and fraudulent activity on the forum

AI will see human written contents as spam and read AI generated contents as quality. Leaving the forum moderation in the hands of bots, is not a good idea. Members devote themselves to keep the forum clean and it's been perfect without any alteration; nothing changed, same process. The AI wouldn't work like humans and they'll be lots of complains from people who their contents were filtered out by the bot, and the bot won't be on the meta board to defend why it removed the content. But, users here give reasons why they reported a content as spam, can the AI give us unique reasons?

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Overall, the integration of AI technology with the BitcoinTalk forum has the potential to greatly improve the user experience and enhance the community's ability to share knowledge and insights. I would love to hear your thoughts on this proposal and any ideas you may have for its implementation.

There's a possibility that AI moderation can be integrated for moderation purposes but I doubt if the SMF team will develop a package that will integrate AI for daily forum activities, forums are created for direct human interaction anything less than that is considered spam.
in fact, they have a lot of software packages to fight bots or AI to interfere or take part in discussions, forum developers will maintain that they want human participants on their platform.

I used to have a forum and the last thing I want is AI or bots using my platforms even if they promised to enhance that content, let's leave forums to humans, we don't want a perfect platform run by AI I still want to see people argue, questioning one another something AI cannot bring in a discussion platform.


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May 02, 2023, 01:19:52 PM
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Pikachus dining on top of an Eiffel Tower

Well you can't exactly dine on the top of the Eiffel Tower as its pointy


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