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May 06, 2023, 11:13:22 PM
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Due to its decentralized nature, this forum provides a fair environment for all individuals. I anticipate that everyone will receive a second chance, including myself. Despite making several appeals, my account has remained banned for over 4 years.

You are appealing to get your account banned as 4 years have passed since you did plagiarism, but i would not be surprise if you remain banned for another 100 years with your account remains to be banned. With plagiarism, don't expect that you will be unbanned after certain number of years. You ban was permanent so it will remain permanent.

If theymos started to unban people based upon the time period, then you know every other banned account would appeal to give them the second chance and it would not serve any good purpose to the forum.

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May 07, 2023, 06:13:53 AM
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OP, you had plagiarism case. Many accounts were banned and many were receiving signature ban. But 4 years should be enough for salvation however honestly, I do not see you have a chance. You should accept it.
I don't remember the drama surrounding this member (not surprising since it was so long ago), but from what I've read here it looks like plagiarism might be only one rule that he broke, with the other major one being ban evasion.  Can "salvation" be earned in four years?  Certainly.  Do I think OP has done anything to suggest that he's going to be any more honest than he was when he got permabanned?  Nope.

I also question why he wants to return to bitcointalk now, with that specific account (I'm pretty sure he has others, likely still active).  He's probably got plans to put it to use in some way, and my guess is that whatever he's got in mind will either lead to shitposts or some variety of shady activity.  Not that the ban appeal process is a democratic one, but my vote is to let it stand as is.

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May 07, 2023, 08:27:30 AM
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I also question why he wants to return to bitcointalk now, with that specific account (I'm pretty sure he has others, likely still active).  He's probably got plans to put it to use in some way, and my guess is that whatever he's got in mind will either lead to shitposts or some variety of shady activity.  Not that the ban appeal process is a democratic one, but my vote is to let it stand as is.
There are no need to think all these negative things. The account must have a value for them. May be they want to feel proud that they have a legendary account, may be they want to join a good signature campaign to receive better payment, they may want to start a business, anything that could lead the account to a better one than it used to be.

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May 07, 2023, 11:58:33 AM
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A similar topic with a request to unban an account after a few years has already come into my field of vision is not the first one, and I became curious. Have there ever been precedents with account recovery after violating forum rules? What gives hope to such users? Maybe some example with a specific forum member?

4 years of waiting is a long time. It would be more efficient to spend this time to start over and go through all the steps to becoming a legendary again, having a positive impact on the forum and restoring trust, as you say. Is not it so?

What matters is not what account and rank you have, but who you are in essence. If you try hard and have the necessary abilities, you will be able to go through all the stages of the ranked system in a new way. Although I can't even imagine how the community will react to this, knowing that your previous account was banned for violating the rules.

Have there been cases when, after the ban of a high-ranking account, a user has already risen to high ranks on a new account and restored his reputation?

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May 07, 2023, 12:14:05 PM
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Have there been cases when, after the ban of a high-ranking account, a user has already risen to high ranks on a new account and restored his reputation?

If it will ever be known what are expectations for a new acc to not to be banned the same? It is called a ban evasion in the rules. So if you want to have a second account you should unban your banned one for first.

As we can see it is not about this case as there are probably many alternative accounts in here, but if to talk in general it is not allowed to start a new account (except to appeal for unbanning the banned one) after any of your accounts is banned.

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25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]
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June 05, 2023, 09:20:09 AM
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4 years is a longtime for anyone to get a clean sleeve ,  but with the kind of case which is almost irredeemable it doesn't look like you will be getting a second chance.

Besides having to let this account in means anybody who has waited a long time can get a second opinion as this will set precedent for everyone banned to get second opinion and get unbanned.


Off-topic: When making these appeals , shouldn't users be focused on what they have done for the forum besides getting sig paid and the alike to showcase the service rendered to the forum and their valuable standing here?

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June 05, 2023, 03:09:09 PM
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Besides having to let this account in means anybody who has waited a long time can get a second opinion as this will set precedent for everyone banned to get second opinion and get unbanned.

I think that here we should focus on what is the real problem, and that is the very justified suspicion that the BTT account in question is just one of a series of alt accounts that the OP owns or has owned, some of which have been permanently banned. Therefore, this is not about plagiarism exclusively, but the "problem" is much more layered, and if for 4 years no one felt that there was even the slightest doubt that the OP should get a second chance, then it will not happen in the next 4 years either.

Each case is a story in itself, and 99% of those who received a perma ban have long since forgotten about it and will not look for another chance.

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June 05, 2023, 06:15:22 PM
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Due to its decentralized nature, this forum provides a fair environment for all individuals. I anticipate that everyone will receive a second chance, including myself. Despite making several appeals, my account has remained banned for over 4 years.

Four years is an extensive period, and I request the moderators to consider my situation with empathy.


If you are really sincere to not do the same thing and lift the ban of your Old Account maybe the best way is to Pay the Exact Amount that you have Received from the Campaigns you have Joined (with your 4 accounts which was mentioned on This Thread)  or Maybe atleast send it to a Charity, I think this way the Higher ups can reconsider the Ban.


this is just only my Opinion.
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If you are really sincere to not do the same thing and lift the ban of your Old Account maybe the best way is to Pay the Exact Amount that you have Received from the Campaigns you have Joined (with your 4 accounts which was mentioned on This Thread)  or Maybe atleast send it to a Charity, I think this way the Higher ups can reconsider the Ban.


this is just only my Opinion.
That shouldn't change moderator's judgment of an account permanently banned for plagiarism, and I don't think it can make amends for it. The OP may be able to get consideration for being able to use his account again if he actually agrees to no longer have his signature space, and this is just one of the options I'm thinking of regarding banned accounts.

I read somewhere that mods offer that.

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