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May 04, 2023, 04:31:31 PM Last edit: May 14, 2023, 03:08:39 PM by libert19 Merited by vapourminer (2), BRINIRHA (1) |
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So I use Lemur browser on my android which recently added feature called, 'lemur ai' which uses chatgpt. I go on to test my comment there and this happens:
Felt like pasting ai's improved version instead of mine but felt it would be frowned upon, hence this thread. Edit: ... And this ai's answer
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Nwada001
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May 04, 2023, 04:38:02 PM |
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I have asked a similar question like this regarding grammar correctness under "Report Plagiarism by LoyceV. Based on my understanding from the explanation, provided that the origin content is being written by you, there is nothing wrong with using Grammarly to correct your punctuation and sentence.
But to some point, there is also no point in doing that since the English is not that bad and every average person will be able to read and understand what the entire content means.
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May 04, 2023, 04:59:14 PM |
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OP… I think you have a typo in the title. It should be “AI” instead of “UI”.
Let me get this right. So after looking at a certain post, and you want to reply, you post your reply to Lemar AI chat, and then it corrects your sentence with the right grammar?
I have been using Language tools add-on (same as Grammarly) to correct my spelling and grammatical mistakes though it's not 100% perfect, I believe the idea is similar?
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May 04, 2023, 05:19:19 PM |
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It seems a little impractical to me, if I'm honest. There are simpler ways to correct grammatical errors through a variety of extensions, such as Grammarly or LanguageTool; I use the latter one. Although I'm quite proficient in English, these tools are extremely helpful to correct some of the small errors you might miss, massively improving your writing. Personally, I occasionally also use Quilbot for large amounts of text; it's basically an AI grammar checker that specializes in correcting grammar while also offering some other services that I haven't used (paraphraser, summarizer, and a few others). It's a lot more efficient and quicker than what you're doing.
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May 04, 2023, 09:26:06 PM |
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Everyone wants a shorter way of achieving anything henceforth in their endeavors in life, sometimes i give it a look that why should we assume our oen responsibility to be taken by other, not even the technological advancement with the use of artificial intelligence in carrying out our daily task, this same problem is what we encounter that some of us may also find it difficult to proofread our post and we want the AI to do that for us, the question is that can they still reason the same way we could in reacting to matters or post we made that needed a second thought from us.
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May 04, 2023, 09:46:15 PM |
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At least for me, using translators or services to correct your english has no problem, since the content is yours, created and written by you, and the correction helps other people to understand your post.
What you cannot, of course, is to copy other people's content and post it as if it were you The use of AI is also not recommended to use in the forum as it does not add anything, and it's not your content, it's only generic stuff I don't know this tool you posted, but the google translator itself is excellent, simple and will probably help you, maybe some very specific content can have some errors, but I'm sure that's not a problem here
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May 04, 2023, 11:40:32 PM |
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OP… I think you have a typo in the title. It should be “AI” instead of “UI”.
Let me get this right. So after looking at a certain post, and you want to reply, you post your reply to Lemar AI chat, and then it corrects your sentence with the right grammar?
I have been using Language tools add-on (same as Grammarly) to correct my spelling and grammatical mistakes though it's not 100% perfect, I believe the idea is similar?
I haven't used this lemur artificial intelligence tool but from the OP example, i feel it is a bit different that the other tools like Grammarly available in the market. While Grammarly corrects your grammar word by word, i think this AI tool can suggest you a whole different sentence making it a better choice than our own constructed sentence. Since AI posts are not been encouraged on this forum, I would not use this tool, rather Grammarly may be a better option to correct the grammatical mistakes in our text.
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it is AI not UI , I was wonder what you are trying to say.. Look, because there is no rule, so as long as the text is from your ideas, there is no objection to using any tool to make it better. If you ask me then, it is better to write and try to learn and develop your English skills rather than relying on third-party applications. A little mistake is always acceptable. If Those AI applications and in cooperation with each other they will be able to analyze your life and relying on it will not be a problem.
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May 05, 2023, 12:50:05 AM |
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Using such tools which is capable of producing the content you wrote into a complete sentence with no grammatical errors and it's just nothing but what grammarly does. But isn't really necessary we need to be accurate in terms of grammar while writing a post, it's okay as long as others can understand so using this tools will not really help you in any way.
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May 05, 2023, 01:20:04 AM |
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it is AI not UI , I was wonder what you are trying to say.. Me too when I read the topic title.
Not only AI but we also can use Grammarly to check grammar and fix bugs. Personally I think the Free version of Grammarly is goo enough to use for grammatical checking. It is useful for people who want to improve their writing skills including grammar issues.
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May 05, 2023, 04:25:10 AM |
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Not only AI but we also can use Grammarly to check grammar and fix bugs. Personally I think the Free version of Grammarly is goo enough to use for grammatical checking. The use of these tools is becoming more widespread and will continue to do so. The translator DeepL.com has released a Beta feature, DeepL Write, which helps you improve your writing. Welcome to DeepL Write!
This tool allows you to correct mistakes, rephrase sentences and improve your writing. The green highlight on the right indicates a change.
Click on a word to see suggestions or rewrite the whole sentence. In the end it will be like using the internet. Nowadays rote learning is less important than ever because you have access to a lot of information in a matter of seconds. The same thing will happen with this.
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May 05, 2023, 04:32:00 AM |
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The question that should be asked is whether or not the output would be detected by tools that are created to check whether or not AI has been used to create the content. I would suggest checking your outputs against zerogpt and similar services before making posts to prevent your content from being flagged as AI-created. I feel as though that this is a fine use-case for AI and posting, however it might conflict with those who are trying to detect AI-created posts. Do report back if you try this with your results.
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May 05, 2023, 05:06:54 AM |
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The question that should be asked is whether or not the output would be detected by tools that are created to check whether or not AI has been used to create the content. I would suggest checking your outputs against zerogpt and similar services before making posts to prevent your content from being flagged as AI-created. I feel as though that this is a fine use-case for AI and posting, however it might conflict with those who are trying to detect AI-created posts. Do report back if you try this with your results.
It should be detected because AI or any spell checker websites will produce a well written in English. My personal opinion, I don't think it's harmful to use AI or spell checker to correct your grammatical error or typos because the content or text is using your own ideas. What make many members against of AI usage is, the user didn't created anything and just let the AI to create the content or text for him which is no effort from him. The problem raise if the tools is bad if they're correcting someone text by took someone article, which can be detected as plagiarism.
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May 05, 2023, 05:18:24 AM |
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The question that should be asked is whether or not the output would be detected by tools that are created to check whether or not AI has been used to create the content. I would suggest checking your outputs against zerogpt and similar services before making posts to prevent your content from being flagged as AI-created. I feel as though that this is a fine use-case for AI and posting, however it might conflict with those who are trying to detect AI-created posts. Do report back if you try this with your results.
It should be detected because AI or any spell checker websites will produce a well written in English. My personal opinion, I don't think it's harmful to use AI or spell checker to correct your grammatical error or typos because the content or text is using your own ideas. What make many members against of AI usage is, the user didn't created anything and just let the AI to create the content or text for him which is no effort from him. The problem raise if the tools is bad if they're correcting someone text by took someone article, which can be detected as plagiarism. In this case, it is probably wiser to use a tool like Grammarly instead of using AI to correct English. Someone with very poor English or grammar might have their posts consistently flagged as having been generated by AI. Of course this might not necessarily be plagarism, content created by AI isn't usually plagarism either as it does its best to create unique responses (and increasingly does so with more training). The problem is a user having innocent intentions to improve their grammar, though potentially being seen as someone using AI to increase their posts. Maybe "this post has been improved with AI" quote is a good idea to mitigate the above for those who are choosing to use AI to improve the grammar of their posts. For example: this is the origginal text of my postt This is the original text of my post. This way people can see the original content and that the post was indeed improved by AI, and gives appropriate credits for using it to improve their post.
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I don't think a post will be defined as being written by AI if it's self-composed. The use of grammar-checking tools will also not affect further accusations of the user using AI. What's more, today's grammar checker tools sometimes offer better sentence wording options that also won't scream that the text was written by a robot. Another thing is when we see the dry speech of AI, speaking in definitions and in no way connected with the communication of a person on the forum. Just a wording of something, or some kind of conclusion. All posts written by AI signal themselves, and if you check the user's history earlier, for example, before the creation of the GPT chatbot, you will see a real difference in writing posts. Fans of AI-like tools need to think about this so that they don't get accused of cheating signature companies in the future.
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May 05, 2023, 10:35:13 AM |
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It feels like AI might completely revise the whole constructive post and alter many words in the process. I mean yes you can say that to correct grammatical errors, to AI but say far as AI is used in creating content, I guess it says to use something like Grammarly since it just corrects some punctuation, spelling, etc.
This is for sure going to be a long discussion in the forum, Grammarly is accepted to some extent I mean using Grammarly could make your post detect as an AI. In my opinion, as long as you are the one writing the content if it is still acceptable to have the thought on your post, AI detectors seem right to me so if it wasn't detected as an AI as would say that it's fine. It's difficult to prove but it's a good basis I believed.
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WatChe
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May 06, 2023, 08:13:57 AM |
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It feels like AI might completely revise the whole constructive post and alter many words in the process. I mean yes you can say that to correct grammatical errors, to AI but say far as AI is used in creating content, I guess it says to use something like Grammarly since it just corrects some punctuation, spelling, etc.
This is for sure going to be a long discussion in the forum, Grammarly is accepted to some extent I mean using Grammarly could make your post detect as an AI. In my opinion, as long as you are the one writing the content if it is still acceptable to have the thought on your post, AI detectors seem right to me so if it wasn't detected as an AI as would say that it's fine. It's difficult to prove but it's a good basis I believed.
English is not a native language in many countries and that's the reason many people don't have good English despite having too much information about cryptocurrencies. These people are the one who rarely come to forums like Bitcointalk rather refrain from joining such forums. Grammerly free version is very much limited and just suggest some basic punctuation errors. I am sure the paid version of Grammerly is more helpful in identifying mistakes. I would suggest rather using AI to correct errors, use to to improve your english. Since that will fix english related errors once and for all.
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rby
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May 06, 2023, 08:37:44 AM |
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It seems a little impractical to me, if I'm honest. There are simpler ways to correct grammatical errors through a variety of extensions, such as Grammarly or LanguageTool;
Why recommend the use of the later tools (grammarly) and frown or rather be skeptical about using AI to correct grammatical syntax. What actually do you think that does the correct in grammarly tool, is it not same AI. Just that the recent version of Ai's chatGPT are more elaborate and vast. I do no think anything is wrong by letting AI correct your English grammar, provided that you are the original writter. But to some point, there is also no point in doing that since the English is not that bad and every average person will be able to read and understand what the entire content means.
For the fact that their English is not very bad doesn't mean they should settle for it. Using this grammar correcting tools will in no doubt improve the English of the user. So, needless of limiting learning.
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BRINIRHA
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May 06, 2023, 08:57:31 AM |
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Maybe I should give it a try once in a while because my grammar is so bad. But I'm afraid that my writing will become stiffer to read. But seeing what the OP did I got a little inspired about something else related to using AI. But for writing in this forum I want to keep my original writing even though the grammar might be messy. but as long as people understand what I write then that's enough. I'm even afraid that using AI to correct my writing will make my writing look like copy paste. too stiff and too perfect sometimes I don't like too much. but now I'm on my way to try it out of curiosity about the result
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SamReomo
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May 06, 2023, 01:11:51 PM |
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Not only AI but we also can use Grammarly to check grammar and fix bugs. Personally I think the Free version of Grammarly is goo enough to use for grammatical checking. It is useful for people who want to improve their writing skills including grammar issues. I would recommend you and the OP to not use those automatic grammar fixers or any AI to fix the grammar. The AI content detectors will flag your hard work as AI written article. I have done it in past and I regret that decision because even using Grammarly for fixing the errors can make your content flagged. Now, I don't rely on those software, and I try my best to make my sentences grammatically correct . It's little hard in start but with time your grammar will be improved. I have tried Grammarly and another software to fix my sentences and grammar but the result made me unhappy because I somehow unconsciously fed those AI content detectors. I must say that if you want to be on the safe side and at the same time you don't want to be tagged by others than learn to improve your own grammar rather than relying on such automatic grammar and sentence fixers. I know those apps will make your content appear more professional, but that might be harmful as your hard-work won't be appreciated.
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