Is it time for Old Signature campaigns to redesign?

[rby]

It could be the right time for some old signature campaigns to redesign their signatures. Before now, the most appealing signature to me used to be the chipmixer signature.

But from late 2022, there seems to be a new approach to signature design, and the guys behind the designs are excellent.
What really changed?
Are new design tools discovered or the designers upgraded. Although some of  these new signature designs seem to have issues of responsiveness, but in the end the issues are fixed and they look great.

Below is some samples of nice signature designs as opposed to what we used to have before now.

This is coming from the newly launched signature campaign and it is a product of a design contest.
Coinslotty:
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSEBNJTS.png&t=649&c=L8dqxjjtEriKLQ

Whirlwind recently launched by Hhampuz came with some cool design here:


The trend seems to start from the period Livecasino.io arrived.


Then Royse777 and his team are always coming with these unique signature designs.

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Do you think it's time for some old signature campaigns to wear a new better look. These could give the participants some feelings of renewed energy, you never can tell. I wouldn't want to mention names because this is associated with brands.
What do you think?

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But from late 2022, there seems to be a new approach to signature design, and the guys behind the designs are excellent.
What really changed?
Are new design tools discovered or the designers upgraded.

As someone who did art and design before. One thing for sure is, you always get better with time and practice. So it's most likely that the signature designers are getting better at it.

Do you think it's time for some old signature campaigns to wear a new better look. These could give the participants some feelings of renewed energy, you never can tell. I wouldn't want to mention names because this is associated with brands.
What do you think?

Personally, I don't think it's necessary.

[PX-Z]

It could be the right time for some old signature campaigns to redesign their signatures. Before now, the most appealing signature to me used to be the chipmixer signature.
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Do you think it's time for some old signature campaigns to wear a new better look. These could give the participants some feelings of renewed energy, you never can tell. I wouldn't want to mention names because this is associated with brands.
What do you think?

Can you mentioned what signature campaigns are using "old signature" based on your taste or the "old" you are referring? Crypto.games might be the oldest active campaigns but their signature doesn't look bad, besides that updating signatures means another budget should be allocated.

[LeGaulois]

Before making fresh signature designs, they should try to make the existing ones working correctly.
There are so many banners not working properly depending on the browser/OS. ^^ (like your...) Maybe a third or half of them.

What a waste of money for advertisers who spend money to promote their website. Congratz to signature participants who don't bother to check, or the ones who see it but say nothing...

In marketing, it's often a not so good solution to change your promotionnal material because, to summarize, it's like starting from zero again for the customers brain

[Stedsm]

If you'd take it my way, though it may sound like I'm being partial but I'm not, I believe that it's jayce and 2-3 other signature designers have lifted the bars to a whole new level of designs where they don't just design the signature, but first understand the priorities of the customer and the project and then create almost a complete design that tells everything in it that a customer wants in his advertisement. Things have changed quite a lot since we saw Web3 came our way, because everything is now being upgraded to a higher level and to keep up with that, these designs were also needed to be upgraded. 

[rby]

But from late 2022, there seems to be a new approach to signature design, and the guys behind the designs are excellent.
What really changed?
Are new design tools discovered or the designers upgraded.

As someone who did art and design before. One thing for sure is, you always get better with time and practice. So it's most likely that the signature designers are getting better at it.

Absolutely, they are getting better. For instance, a design that was perfectly done by jayce in 2018, 5yrs down the lane, there is no way Jay won't have anything to modify in the design. Time is a transformer.

I wouldn't want to mention names because this is associated with brands.

Can you mentioned what signature campaigns are using "old signature" based on your taste or the "old" you are referring?

You rightly quoted my text where I said that I wouldn't want to mention names because it's a matter of brand and you still asking me to mention names.

What a waste of money for advertisers who spend money to promote their website. Congratz to signature participants who don't bother to check, or the ones who see it but say nothing...

+1, it skipped my mem to mention this, I had it in mind. Some of the signatures doesn't align even on mobile. I understood this during my lil research for the purpose of this thread.

In marketing, it's often a not so good solution to change your promotionnal material because, to summarize, it's like starting from zero again for the customers brain

This is correct!
Brains have great affinity to brands, and changing them often isn't good. But not sure that once a year will be bad.
Besides the Roobet company changes signature often and it doesn't zero customers brain.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

What do you think?

Does not matter.
I am wearing Stake signature and I think it's one of the best too. It's all about the personal feeling you have for a brand. On the other hand, when a signature or brand image becomes older it is able to create better spot in your mind. The Chipmixer is a good example.

[hugeblack]

Another Signature campaign topic  we should stop taking this forum seriously or in terms of signature campaigns.

For me, the signature is more like a trademark. The repetition of its appearance in front of your eyes will make the campaign logo take root in your mind, and therefore, even if you do not click on the link, once you visit any site that contains the logo, you will try to use it because your memory is accustomed to it.

This reminds me of one of the gambling campaigns, and since I know nothing about gambling, as soon as I found their advertisement in a sports match, I was able to distinguish them.

[mk4]

Probably just let them be. If they see less clicks because of their signature designs being not-modern, I'm pretty sure they'll attempt to redesign their signature. Maybe the design simply doesn't matter that much. (or they just don't care lol.)

[Darker45]

I think much of this is subjective. What's a good or a bad signature design, anyway? Chipmixer was appealing, yeah, but it was pretty much simple and straightforward. So in terms of design, there's actually not much creativity or art in it. What probably makes it great is that it has been a respected campaign, already running for a long time, pays big, worn by the cream of the crop of this forum including staff and moderators, and so on. It's not about the signature design per se.

However, I think it's great that promoters are provided with design options. It's also good that designs are also changing and updated. A signature that remains the same for years won't catch your attention anymore. On the other hand, what's new is attractive.

[Plaguedeath]

You forgot with Roobet where they have changed their signature for 5+ times if I'm not mistaken, not to mention Coinomize [1] have different 5 signatures and 8 avatars sets that their participants are free to choose.

I'm not really sure if changing signature can be have a strong impact, but it's not wrong if they want to have a new design based on their recent update or promotions.

I'd say a campaign which allow their participants to wear their own avatar or without avatar is much better e.g. Bestchange and Chipmixer, because it's to show you have your own identity.

I still remember mk4's avatar Bitcoin wizard, mikeywith's avatar Light Yagami, pooya87's avatar a penguin peeing and many more. But now they're already wear a same avatar like other participants, sometime when I read their post, I was like "Man, this is not you"

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434813.0

[noorman0]

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Although some of  these new signature designs seem to have issues of responsiveness, but in the end the issues are fixed and they look great.

These designers come from all over the world, so it is certain that the main obstacle for their responsiveness is the time zone, or having several clients at the same time for those who are already professionals.

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+1, it skipped my mem to mention this, I had it in mind. Some of the signatures doesn't align even on mobile. I understood this during my lil research for the purpose of this thread.

I've also noticed some outcry lately about the designs misaligning across screens, particularly on the Royse's sigcamp where it was necessary to replace the contest-winning design with a new one (though I thing the older design was preferable), and this is slowly becoming a general demand. I think designers have to start thinking to make sure what the customer wants can be applied to what screen the design results will be.

[mk4]

You forgot with Roobet where they have changed their signature for 5+ times if I'm not mistaken, not to mention Coinomize [1] have different 5 signatures and 8 avatars sets that their participants are free to choose.

I'm not really sure if changing signature can be have a strong impact, but it's not wrong if they want to have a new design based on their recent update or promotions.

Changing signature designs at least once every few months should have a positive effect. But if I were to guess — signature campaigns is just a minority of most sites' traffic sources so they probably don't bother.

I still remember mk4's avatar Bitcoin wizard

Crap I'm not sure if I saved a copy.

[Rikafip]

Before making fresh signature designs, they should try to make the existing ones working correctly.
There are so many banners not working properly depending on the browser/OS. ^^ (like your...) Maybe a third or half of them.

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I think the main problem is that either designers or clients are trying to put as much info & complicated graphics as possible into signature space which then makes it very hard to make it look good across various browsers and OS instead making it clean and simple.

Changing signature designs at least once every few months should have a positive effect.

I am not so sure that would have a positive effect on brand recognition.

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Changing signature designs at least once every few months should have a positive effect.

Quite the opposite, signatures serve more for the purpose of brand recognition than to attract new users through clicks. Any significant change in appearance only undoes what has been built for a long time.
If we look at the big world brands, they very rarely changed anything in their visual appearance. Even when there were some changes, the basic form was mostly kept.

[rby]

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Although some of  these new signature designs seem to have issues of responsiveness, but in the end the issues are fixed and they look great.

These designers come from all over the world, so it is certain that the main obstacle for their responsiveness is the time zone, or having several clients at the same time for those who are already professionals.

I don't know the context you understood the responsiveness. However, I'll throw more light about responsiveness in this context. Responsiveness means the ability of the signatures to display appropriately on both mobiles, tablets and desktop views. So, I do not think that responsiveness has anything to do with timezone.

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I think the main problem is that either designers or clients are trying to put as much info & complicated graphics as possible into signature space which then makes it very hard to make it look good across various browsers and OS instead making it clean and simple.

You nailed it mate!
They try push so many icons and logos to fit into a particular design. Simplicity is the key. Only the name and a few write up that is well soothed will make a great design.

I think much of this is subjective. What's a good or a bad signature design, anyway? Chipmixer was appealing, yeah, but it was pretty much simple and straightforward. So in terms of design, there's actually not much creativity or art in it. What probably makes it great is that it has been a respected campaign, already running for a long time, pays big, worn by the cream of the crop of this forum including staff and moderators, and so on. It's not about the signature design per se.

Hup, hup, hup...
Apart from the prestige of the brand here in the forum and the calibre of people that wore the signature. The design naturally was the best as at then. Even if the campaign paid lesser, it would still drag attention.
Even before I familiarise myself with the forum members and became interested in signature campaigns, I had always admired the chipmixer signature design.

[FatFork]

I'm not sure I see any particular difference between the "old" and "new" designs. Good design is always subjective and in the eye of the beholder. But generally speaking, really good graphic design is timeless, not trendy.

You forgot with Roobet where they have changed their signature for 5+ times if I'm not mistaken, not to mention Coinomize [1] have different 5 signatures and 8 avatars sets that their participants are free to choose.

I'm not really sure if changing signature can be have a strong impact, but it's not wrong if they want to have a new design based on their recent update or promotions.

Changing signature designs at least once every few months should have a positive effect. But if I were to guess — signature campaigns is just a minority of most sites' traffic sources so they probably don't bother.

I'm loving what Roobet is doing with their signature designs! They're keeping their brand recognition intact, while also adding some refreshing elements every now and then. I think this approach helps them stay visible and relevant within the community.

[robelneo]

Why fix it if it's not broken, it's all about leads if they are getting leads with their current design, I don't think they will redesign unless they will introduce something in their platform, and the signature is designed to be simple, and clear, and give all details about the casino features.

The design is not created for campaign participants it was created for brand awareness, the design should have nothing to do with the participants' motivation, they should always be motivated because of their passion to engage in conversations here.

[joniboini]

Personally, I never click any signature because the design is cool. As long as the service being advertised is interesting or useful, I'd click it regardless of how ugly its design is. Maybe it will improve the brand image for a bit, but if the service itself is poor I don't see the point of spending their budget on making a new signature.

I believe the broken sig on different browsers mentioned above is more important to solve for a signature designer. AFAIK this is related to BBcode problem so I'm not really sure how they can solve it. This is where they should be more creative and make sure that even if the signature is broken the relevant links and brand info is still visible. When I use my phone some signatures don't even show the service name and the links are being pushed by the background(?), hence it is impossible to click it.

[jayce]

For some companies, it's not necessary to redesign their signatures to keep the brand, while the others need to update their signature with newly added features and/or upcoming events. Honestly, the most important thing they want for the signature design is, how many people click the sig, no matter how beautiful it is and how complicated the logo. It would be useless if you have beautiful and outsanding signature design but no one bothered to click it or at least visit the website after see the sig. That's why I always try to figure out the way to make people curious on every design I create, rather than just make it beautiful. For these companies that still keep their current sig, they feel it's important to keep the brand and probably it gives them a stable traffic from anyone who clicks it. Redesigning the sig might make people hard to recognize them anymore and could change the traffic too. In the other side, some companies keep redesigning the sig so people can see these companies growing and improving time by time with the new features and events they add. There is always a strong reason behind of their decision to keep or change their sig.


I agree that Livecasino sig is so eye-catching, and thanks to Trofo and cryptofrka, the Cro2 team really gave me a clear guidelines at that time, then I just followed and created the sig with some improvisations. icopress also has so many great ideas to create a fresh look of signature & avatar design. So it's not just only because of the designer, but also the manager can contribute to produce an outstanding design. However, my sig design skill got improved rapidly when Hhampuz and I created sigs in multiple versions for FortuneJack and Roobet. It challenged me to do some researches and experiments by using multiple methods, to find the efficient way on make an attractive sig under the 4,000 characters limit. For the ascii art itself, the main challenges are to create a football club icons, and I did it for the first time when designing a sig for Sportsbet, which I had to create logo of Watford, Southampton, Arsenal, and Sao Paulo in BBCode. You can see my other works of football club logo on BK8 #1, BK8 #2, and Duelbits.


Regarding the browser compatibility, it's been always the main issue since the first time sig design launched. We signature designers are still figuring out the best way until now to make it compatible, but there are some dilemmas on it. If you want to make the sig design more attractive, then you have to remove some parts so the space could be used on its styling. In otherwise, if the project owners want to put the contents as many as possible, then it forces us to ignore the style aspect and focus more on putting the contents. Then when you want it mobile-friendly, you have to reduce both of the contents and the stylings, so everything could be fit on the mobile screen. The problem is, how to make the sig design looks good on both of mobile and desktop, but with many contents and info on it, yet still looks beautiful.