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May 07, 2023, 03:05:22 PM
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The links you shared us looks unsafe, the security sucks so I will never try such websites out, I've never heard about these gambling apps and website before but they look like play to earn games in gambling form to me, you need the games token before you can start playing, this is different from gambling on casino platforms but at the end of the day, it's still a gambling because you losing something in return, time, items, points and etc.

It's the same thing here; when Op started the thread, I went to the site and tried it out with the free guest version (I'm not sure anyone would be stupid enough to throw their money away by putting it into that type of site), and I did notice some strange things about the site aside from the fact that it wasn't looking enticing enough.

IMO, I would advise that we all stick to the ones we know rather than jumping from one gambling site to another and later falling for a scam, I'm not sure because I didn't check if they are giving out any kind of offer because most of the time those offers tend to draw people's attention to their site.

Btw, has anyone heard or seen anybody that successfully withdrew from the site or if it's just a virtual money.

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May 07, 2023, 03:11:17 PM
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These websites are too strange to me and I will feel unsafe to send any deposit to such weird-looking websites, where are you guys getting your confidence? I will like to know, because OP you should not talk about these websites in the first place, how can you trust such websites? The links are not even protected, this is a big read flag because something malicious can be injected into your browser through is websites. If you are on a PC do not open those links.

Some gaming websites works in the same way as playing a roulette on a gambling website, but the difference is some games are skills-based, the better you are at playing the games the higher chance you have to make some money fast.

I voted for we'll reputable gambling platforms and projects, if you use one of the websites that OP dropped on here you are at your own risk, even if something goes wrong there is no way you can tackle the devs, they are unknown, the reason why this forum is reliable is because those projects can be embarked on here, if they care about their accomplishments they will solve your problems.
I had the same impression. Both websites were flagged as unprotected by Brave browser, so I didn't feel I should go ahead in anyways. We never know what can get into our devices if we use unprotected websites deliberately. There are so many hacking, viruses and phishing attempts nowadays that we must be careful regards each and every link we open online.

I think OP should have added at least a warning on his post about this aspect of the links he shared, so everyone would be aware they aren't clicking a protected link beforehand.
I  agree with you mate, deliberately entering an unprotected website is very risky, and I personally advice against it, it is even more dangerous for pc users, but this is not to say that mobile users are safe in any, I've a first hand experience, where someone posted a link with an interesting caption on Facebook, the caption captivated me. And I was interested to find out more about the content, so I clicked on the website to open it, chrome warned me that the website I was about visiting is unprotected, even hid the ignore and proceed button, I worked my way around and found the ignore warning and proceed button, opened the site, went through the content for like 2 minutes, I found out the content wasn't as interesting as I thought, I closed the website, visiting my app drawer, I discovered 5 different apps have downloaded and installed itself on my mobile phone, and looked like some more were still downloading in the background cus my phone was getting really hot.

Long story short, it later lead to me resetting my phone back to its factory settings, this was the only way to regain my phone back, because it happened that each time I turn on my data connection, I begin to see different apps being downloaded and installed on my phone and no way to stop it.

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May 07, 2023, 03:20:42 PM
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I enjoy how innovative gaming and earning websites are nowadays, but you should still exercise caution because some of them still have the potential to defraud you. Without first conducting study, you shouldn't question or even pay attention to your friends' advice because you won't know for sure whether or not to believe them. I enjoy how innovative gaming and earning websites are nowadays, but you should still exercise caution because some of them still have the potential to defraud you. Without first conducting study, you shouldn't question or even pay attention to your friends' advice because you won't know for sure whether or not to believe them.
Yes especially new ones, but I am not saying that those new websites can only bring harm to us but the thing is as our technology is fast paced those scammers are well improve as well, we need to be vigilant and we need to make everything secured as well not because they offer good referral bonuses other kind of bonuses we will set aside the security features of that site.
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May 07, 2023, 03:45:25 PM
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I  agree with you mate, deliberately entering an unprotected website is very risky, and I personally advice against it, it is even more dangerous for pc users, but this is not to say that mobile users are safe in any, I've a first hand experience, where someone posted a link with an interesting caption on Facebook, the caption captivated me. And I was interested to find out more about the content, so I clicked on the website to open it, chrome warned me that the website I was about visiting is unprotected, even hid the ignore and proceed button, I worked my way around and found the ignore warning and proceed button, opened the site, went through the content for like 2 minutes, I found out the content wasn't as interesting as I thought, I closed the website, visiting my app drawer, I discovered 5 different apps have downloaded and installed itself on my mobile phone, and looked like some more were still downloading in the background cus my phone was getting really hot.

Long story short, it later lead to me resetting my phone back to its factory settings, this was the only way to regain my phone back, because it happened that each time I turn on my data connection, I begin to see different apps being downloaded and installed on my phone and no way to stop it.
Thankfully you didn't lose your mobile device or suffered any other negative impact due to this invader virus. Things get really concerning when money is stolen from digital wallets or personal documents are accessed and used by criminals at a global level for their schemes.

With so many legit, protected and trustful virtual casinos nowadays, I don't understand why people still look for shady, sketchy and dangerous platforms to play which can potentially harm the players in different ways, which don't include only the threats we mentioned above, but also the possibility of having a withdrawal denied or the provably fair feature being inexistent on those websites.

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May 07, 2023, 06:17:47 PM
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For me it is the first time I hear about them,also when I watch sports like soccer games or F1 races online in certain streaming websites they come out with all sort of ads that redirect to well known and not at all well known casinos.For me I use a golden rule which if anyone follows he will have never problems and that rule is,once you have found a stable and reputable casino offering a lot of games selection,almost instant withdrawals and deposits,ongoing bonuses daily,weekly and monthly I find absolutely no reason why some person should try other casinos at all,may be I am a bit of a fanatic but by following this rule I have never had any problems gambling and I do so from many years.

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May 07, 2023, 06:28:16 PM
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Has anyone known and played at these sites? Do let me how was their experience and what sort of games are there ?
Are they pure gambling sites or a mixture of gambling and gaming sites ? Although you need coins to play at these sites and you can redeem the winning coins into fiat money.
Never heard of them.
I wish someone could enlighten us because I checked the recent replies of the members above me and all of them don't have any idea about it or have not tried it yet. I have this also in advertisements of blogs and articles but I never click them, I don't recommend that too because it might bring you somewhere that is dangerous.
If you really like to start playing gambling games then I would stick with the reputable ones, if it's slots or other known card games, they are available even on sports betting sites.
The links are already there. We can just visit it ourselves and have a better understanding or conclusion if what is it all about. So I check one of the links, I thought its a single slot game but im surprised there are other games inside it when I click on the "guest" button. It seems all games there are slot games due to their names and design. I even tried one and my suspicion is true.

This is my first time to hear about these sites. Maybe that is because I rarely visit social media sites nowadays? But before, I am aware that gambling ads are being posted on them. The advantage of them is their gameplay is new but I better research for the reviews about these sites just to be safe.

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May 07, 2023, 06:36:55 PM
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Has anyone known and played at these sites? Do let me how was their experience and what sort of games are there ?
Are they pure gambling sites or a mixture of gambling and gaming sites ? Although you need coins to play at these sites and you can redeem the winning coins into fiat money.
Yeah, I've heard about them and even tried a few but they are mainly available for some specific countries like the US and UK and I'm not sure about all other countries supported. They are casinos and have gambling games and no free-to-play games. You need to deposit money to play, and you can do that through agents, mostly.

What you basically do is find an agent, send the money to them and they will add credits to your game through your game ID. They mostly accept CashApp but some might accept other payment methods such as Venmo or even PayPal.

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May 07, 2023, 06:39:53 PM
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I enjoy how innovative gaming and earning websites are nowadays, but you should still exercise caution because some of them still have the potential to defraud you. Without first conducting study, you shouldn't question or even pay attention to your friends' advice because you won't know for sure whether or not to believe them. I enjoy how innovative gaming and earning websites are nowadays, but you should still exercise caution because some of them still have the potential to defraud you. Without first conducting study, you shouldn't question or even pay attention to your friends' advice because you won't know for sure whether or not to believe them.

What earning sites are you talking about? Gambling is not about making money, it's about having fun that can bring a nice win as a bonus. If you can not win on a regular basis (the probability of winning is highly dependent on reasons beyond your control), then it is quite wrong to call it earning. Earning is when you do some work and get a reward for it. In general, play only at gambling sites that have a good reputation and for free money and then you will have no problems.

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May 07, 2023, 06:59:27 PM
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Has anyone known and played at these sites? Do let me how was their experience and what sort of games are there ?
Are they pure gambling sites or a mixture of gambling and gaming sites ? Although you need coins to play at these sites and you can redeem the winning coins into fiat money.
Never heard of them.
I wish someone could enlighten us because I checked the recent replies of the members above me and all of them don't have any idea about it or have not tried it yet. I have this also in advertisements of blogs and articles but I never click them, I don't recommend that too because it might bring you somewhere that is dangerous.
If you really like to start playing gambling games then I would stick with the reputable ones, if it's slots or other known card games, they are available even on sports betting sites.
The links are already there. We can just visit it ourselves and have a better understanding or conclusion if what is it all about. So I check one of the links, I thought its a single slot game but im surprised there are other games inside it when I click on the "guest" button. It seems all games there are slot games due to their names and design. I even tried one and my suspicion is true.

This is my first time to hear about these sites. Maybe that is because I rarely visit social media sites nowadays? But before, I am aware that gambling ads are being posted on them. The advantage of them is their gameplay is new but I better research for the reviews about these sites just to be safe.
If we do tend to zoom out on how big this gambling industry is including crypto and fiat ones then it wont really be that shocking that lots of things we would definitely missed out. According into our awareness since we are focused here on crypto forum or on this place alone then we might really just be aware 10-20 names of casinos listed which you've been heard off but we know that there are companies which they havent been able to touched up this forum and on the time it would be introduced then it would be hearing out that it is really just new which its not really that our fault.

On the time that there would be some mentions on this forum and we are solely focused into this place then these names would really be that alien to us. Testing out wont really be that a bad idea and good thing that you do have the time on trying to look on whats inside which it is at least that good to see that there are people who are really that interested to find out if its a legit one.
In overall, im not really that interested when it comes to play on companies or platforms which arent known into this forum.It might really be that too much
isolated or one sided but at least im sure on my choices.

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Has anyone known and played at these sites? Do let me how was their experience and what sort of games are there ?
Are they pure gambling sites or a mixture of gambling and gaming sites ? Although you need coins to play at these sites and you can redeem the winning coins into fiat money.

This forum is a great place, but still, many crypto lovers never heard about this place. With that said, there are a bunch of casinos/services out there... I mean outside this forum. By looking at some search lists I often see many casinos I never saw before, not one or two, but a lot of them. And I tried a few of them, I still remember "Orient Express"... I didn't read ToS before depositing, and the funny thing is that I won some money and when I wanted to withdraw that win I found out that withdrawals in crypto are not available, just Skrill, PayPal, and banks.

For the past two years, I play under BTCGosu, in all casinos, and I don't have any worries or troubles. A few issues I had got solved quickly with the help of Gosu, it's different when someone is in touch with owners and admins. And in the past months, I got a bit more strict, I register only on Gosu links. When Efi tests the casino and gives it a go I will follow.

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Has anyone known and played at these sites? Do let me how was their experience and what sort of games are there ?
Are they pure gambling sites or a mixture of gambling and gaming sites ? Although you need coins to play at these sites and you can redeem the winning coins into fiat money.
I recently known these sites through some articles but I think they are a paid ones just to promote them. I haven't been able to play or check it, maybe you could try it for us in here and check if they're paying and if the games are way too cool. I think these are gaming sites and not gambling sites.
Most likely. Saw the way they write their articles too. Too gratifying, maybe even putting these gambling sites into some sort of gambling pedestal as if to say they are the future big boys in the industry. That to me is a big red flag. If that still doesn't convince anyone that these sites could be 1xbit 2: electric boogaloo, then maybe a couple dollars locked on a scammy gambling site shouldn't be too bad. Redeeming some sort of in-house token, while not really a cause for concern, is also something these untrustworthy sites do to prevent people from getting into their prize money. I know it's a little too early to point fingers on anyone but the signs to me are there, and if you guys aren't willing to lose money in the process then I say take my advise and stick to sites with reputable backgrounds, or at least gambling sites that have some sort of working customer service.

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Has anyone known and played at these sites? Do let me how was their experience and what sort of games are there ?
Are they pure gambling sites or a mixture of gambling and gaming sites ? Although you need coins to play at these sites and you can redeem the winning coins into fiat money.

This forum is a great place, but still, many crypto lovers never heard about this place. With that said, there are a bunch of casinos/services out there... I mean outside this forum. By looking at some search lists I often see many casinos I never saw before, not one or two, but a lot of them. And I tried a few of them, I still remember "Orient Express"... I didn't read ToS before depositing, and the funny thing is that I won some money and when I wanted to withdraw that win I found out that withdrawals in crypto are not available, just Skrill, PayPal, and banks.

For the past two years, I play under BTCGosu, in all casinos, and I don't have any worries or troubles. A few issues I had got solved quickly with the help of Gosu, it's different when someone is in touch with owners and admins. And in the past months, I got a bit more strict, I register only on Gosu links. When Efi tests the casino and gives it a go I will follow.

This forum I can say is the hidden gem if a crypto user discovered it.
If you want a comprehensive detail about crypto casinos, you can head to their respective threads here.
Never played in a casino outside this forum. My confidence is on casinos here as you can get in touch with their rep and not only chatbot.
BTCGosu is also one reliable site for me. However, if you want more real discussions about the casino, just go to their thread and start from the very first page.
Some discussions will give you a hint how the rep is responding to any issue or potential issue, that will give you idea how they are resolving cases of their players.
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A few of the sites / App links are http://web.pandamaster.vip/game/pandamaster/ , http://web.orionstars.vip/play/orionstars/

Has anyone known and played at these sites? Do let me how was their experience and what sort of games are there ?
Are they pure gambling sites or a mixture of gambling and gaming sites ? Although you need coins to play at these sites and you can redeem the winning coins into fiat money.

I'm not sure, because I just found out about this application site. but this made me curious so i tried to open one link you shared. I looked at it carefully, then try to join. and yes, my guess was right. This app site is nothing more than an ordinary game, "Pandamaster". because the game is not much different from other application games, one example that is popular in my country is high domino.

Refers to the popular application games in my country, in which there are various kinds of games. yes, like a casino. it's just that, we have to buy chips to play it. well, referring to what you said in this thread. To be honest, I didn't dig deeper into this game. because it seems the concept is not as you say. but conversely, you can exchange coins for fiat but not from the application. that means, you trade chips from players to players or collectors of these game chips. by the way, this is just my assumption. because, what I said refers to the high domino game.

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May 07, 2023, 08:49:30 PM
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I wouldn't describe these sites as "gaming" because it's all gambling. What's the difference between gambling and gaming? You game for points or in game currency, or items, scores, but you gamble for money. In games you don't bet, you either win something or not, but you don't lose any money. All you can lose is scores, points, items in game.
What OP is describing as a mixture of gaming and gambling is just good old gambling.

Gambling is under gaming as I stated so wether the site is gaming site that does not receive bet or gambling site that let player wager, it is still under the gaming industry. See the reference and explanation of wikidepdia

Gaming industry, game industry, or games industry may refer to:

Gambling industry
Especially in reference to casinos
Online gambling industry
GamesIndustry, subsidiary of Eurogamer
Industry related to games.
Tabletop game industry
Video game industry

I enjoy how innovative gaming and earning websites are nowadays, but you should still exercise caution because some of them still have the potential to defraud you. Without first conducting study, you shouldn't question or even pay attention to your friends' advice because you won't know for sure whether or not to believe them. I enjoy how innovative gaming and earning websites are nowadays, but you should still exercise caution because some of them still have the potential to defraud you. Without first conducting study, you shouldn't question or even pay attention to your friends' advice because you won't know for sure whether or not to believe them.

What earning sites are you talking about? Gambling is not about making money, it's about having fun that can bring a nice win as a bonus. If you can not win on a regular basis (the probability of winning is highly dependent on reasons beyond your control), then it is quite wrong to call it earning. Earning is when you do some work and get a reward for it. In general, play only at gambling sites that have a good reputation and for free money and then you will have no problems.

If it happen that the gambling site has the affiliate system then it could be an earning site for people who will take advantage of the affiliate system and get paid when they refer players to the platform.  Although I agree that gambling shouldn't be labeled as earning platform but rather it should be handle with care and just play for fun and not to make money because we canget disappointed with the result.
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I'm still a stranger and have never heard of or seen the site you mentioned, friend.
What is clear is that I will never be interested and willing to try a gambling site that is not on a forum with a good reputation because it can put me at great risk.
During this time, I first encountered crypto casino sites in forums because previously I only played at street casinos and local casinos with fiat currency.
If you are curious and want to try a site that your friend told you, it's better to do some research first and get all the information, then use as little money as possible to do a trial there.

I have to agree with you on this one. Gambling sites that are not at least advertised nor mentioned in the forum is considered as a red flag for me due to its nature being risky in itself.

Imagine, gambling is already risky and if you are going to put money on an unknown gambling website, you are putting more risk on your returns and profits as a whole. That is why if you are looking for a gambling website to play, then look no further beyond this forum and the casinos that most have consistently advertised.

To answer your question OP, no- I do not have any personal experiences with the gambling sites you have mentioned. Maybe they are being promoted by third-parties around the globe for traction and advertisement but I would not trust them completely.
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I tried searching for videos related to the sites that the OP mentioned as I got more curious since you can't test the games through the demo mode. After watching a few videos, their games are similar to the ones I always see in arcades, they're nothing like any of the casino games we see on crypto casinos. It's a good thing that most of the users that posted have no experience with these games because I saw the comments on some of the videos saying they're scammed and I agree with what ryzaadit said about these games having unknown RTP.

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Although you need coins to play at these sites and you can redeem the winning coins into fiat money.
This is still called gambling. Because the game uses real money. Maybe the developer make this to hide and camouflage from restricting the government. I often found games like this on the play store, I even had to withdraw it once and then uninstalled it because when I look at it carefully, a game like this is full of traps, that possible if beginners try and deposit a lot of money, the application will crash and under maintenance with limitless time.

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I have not tried playing in these sites so I can't share any experience about them, but I probably have heard or stumbled upon one or two of them, in an ad most probably. The impression is that they are basically a gaming site. But the gray area here is that you will be buying whatever coins their games use and do some staking or betting and win or loss them. But they are also convertible to real money. That's the gambling side of it. They're like offering chips or tokens. I wonder if these sites are licensed as gambling operators, but they are indeed offering gambling.
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May 08, 2023, 02:17:32 AM
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This is just a way to attract the beginners. Initially it serve as a gaming platform where users enjoy gaming and accumulating coins. Further the win out of the games will trigger them to get into real deposit and try winning. We used to see more such platforms where things happen in the similar way. Tokens will be allocated and can be withdrawn to fiat only after reaching a big volume of tokens. To achieve the specific number the gambler needs to spend lots of time same as accumulation of Satoshi in the past. Some even request deposit of fund to withdraw the winnings. For some time period they work legit and beyond certain level it gets to be scam.

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May 08, 2023, 09:18:04 AM
Last edit: July 14, 2023, 05:25:33 AM by slapper
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These websites are too strange to me and I will feel unsafe to send any deposit to such weird-looking websites, where are you guys getting your confidence? I will like to know, because OP you should not talk about these websites in the first place, how can you trust such websites? The links are not even protected, this is a big read flag because something malicious can be injected into your browser through is websites. If you are on a PC do not open those links.

Some gaming websites works in the same way as playing a roulette on a gambling website, but the difference is some games are skills-based, the better you are at playing the games the higher chance you have to make some money fast.

I voted for we'll reputable gambling platforms and projects, if you use one of the websites that OP dropped on here you are at your own risk, even if something goes wrong there is no way you can tackle the devs, they are unknown, the reason why this forum is reliable is because those projects can be embarked on here, if they care about their accomplishments they will solve your problems.
I had the same impression. Both websites were flagged as unprotected by Brave browser, so I didn't feel I should go ahead in anyways. We never know what can get into our devices if we use unprotected websites deliberately. There are so many hacking, viruses and phishing attempts nowadays that we must be careful regards each and every link we open online.

I think OP should have added at least a warning on his post about this aspect of the links he shared, so everyone would be aware they aren't clicking a protected link beforehand.
I  agree with you mate, deliberately entering an unprotected website is very risky, and I personally advice against it, it is even more dangerous for pc users, but this is not to say that mobile users are safe in any, I've a first hand experience, where someone posted a link with an interesting caption on Facebook, the caption captivated me. And I was interested to find out more about the content, so I clicked on the website to open it, chrome warned me that the website I was about visiting is unprotected, even hid the ignore and proceed button, I worked my way around and found the ignore warning and proceed button, opened the site, went through the content for like 2 minutes, I found out the content wasn't as interesting as I thought, I closed the website, visiting my app drawer, I discovered 5 different apps have downloaded and installed itself on my mobile phone, and looked like some more were still downloading in the background cus my phone was getting really hot.

Long story short, it later lead to me resetting my phone back to its factory settings, this was the only way to regain my phone back, because it happened that each time I turn on my data connection, I begin to see different apps being downloaded and installed on my phone and no way to stop it.
We found a spine-chilling story. Who knew an undefended website could be so... terrifying? Mobile browsing is risky, joking apart. Malware and scams? Ready to assault.

How can we stop cybercriminals? Avoid dodgy links and ads with outlandish claims. Second, always have a backup - a second device or good antivirus software. Be safe. The catch? Detecting and avoiding cybercriminals. Keep an eye out and have fun online.


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